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Quote from: Yatsan on July 30, 2024, 08:22:14 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 30, 2024, 06:36:03 PM

They'd felt hurt. They paid for nothing and just made the owners of those groups richer with the VIP that they've paid.

That is the reason why many of us have been given the reminder to never trust them or never join any of it. You're missing the joy of having fun in sports betting by joining it.

But if that's an amount of money that you can enjoy then you better give that to them and test if they're really gonna work or not.

I visualize this process as you gamble on the games and also gambles on the prediction channels as those groups were too indefinite. But winning is winning so only bet on who you think might win with the help of prediction channels, don't solely depend on them.

Yup.

It's sad that there are too many reliant on them and think that it's going to save them from being poor and will give them significant wins and profit.

But that's not how it goes with betting because it really takes money and experience until you realize that you're being fooled by those so called prediction apps or channels that you've believed once.

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Paying for sports match predictions is stupid, in my opinion. Firstly, there are a huge number of free predictions and I want to assure you that these are quite high-quality predictions, even though they are free. If the quality of a free prediction seems insufficient to you, you can always try to compare several free predictions. As a rule, if one author missed something, the second can suggest additional information. Personally, I have always had questions about paid predictions. And these questions are very simple, I do not even understand why people who buy predictions do not ask these questions. The question is: if a person can sell a prediction, then why should he not bet on his prediction? But there is a risk, and selling a prediction is safe.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Of course, it's going to be very hard to take it as you are paying premium price for a prediction and then you bet huge amount because you "trusted" that signal group or channels. But unfortunately, we all know that even the best of them lose in a game, so going to be very difficult for anyone and most likely they are going to blame obviously that handicappers and who knows, maybe he will quit that channel and look for another one, or just stay away from those so called groups and just focus on the game yourself. Study and analyzed it so that you will not go and rely on others to make a bet. And just remember that there are no experts in sports betting, sooner or later probability is going to catch up with those guys.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Some of games were merely depends on luck and prediction but instead depends on the players or teams itself, like on how the teams feels today, is the player contributing good on the current league or season. Predictions might be based on the history of the said game but predicting a game winning is always uncertain. Sports betting tips sites for sure are not a scam. It is more or less a guideline that tells you who's likely to win based on statistics, but these sportsbooks won't tell you the outcome of a game.
Another thing I would suggest would start small and worked your way up with account balance so even if you lose, it wouldn't hurt so much your account. Be wary of grand promises of easy profits as with any investments or wagering activity, responsible risk management is the key. Cheesy

Quote from: sunsilk on July 30, 2024, 06:36:03 PM

They'd felt hurt. They paid for nothing and just made the owners of those groups richer with the VIP that they've paid.

That is the reason why many of us have been given the reminder to never trust them or never join any of it. You're missing the joy of having fun in sports betting by joining it.

But if that's an amount of money that you can enjoy then you better give that to them and test if they're really gonna work or not.

I visualize this process as you gamble on the games and also gambles on the prediction channels as those groups were too indefinite. But winning is winning so only bet on who you think might win with the help of prediction channels, don't solely depend on them.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

I'm sorry to be honest, but I believe that people are very ignorant, believing that signal groups/channels really are a reliable source for the results of their bets.
I agree that it may be useful or interesting to pay to have privileged information on a certain subject that can give you an advantage over other bettors so that you can form your opinion on which bets to place and who to bet on, which are more profitable and accurate.
However, the final result must always be up to the bettor.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

A loss is a loss.

So, you're right that it's a double dip of losses because they lose the bet and as well as the money they paid for. It won't matter to me if it's just pennies.

But AFAIK, many of these prediction channels are asking hefty amount of money per month or subscriptions that they do.

The joiner thinks that they're on a jackpot but their stats are going to speak for themselves if they're a real thing or just ups for cash grabs for the gullible joiners.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

I think anybody who pay some amount of money to join a signal group to get prediction and failed by losing his fund will not be happy. But there is no big deal because if the game where to play, reverse will have been the case where such person would have been happy. So In conclusion, If such thing as lose happens there is no need to panic because gambling is win and lose game wether you predict for yourself or you take from prediction channel, all are just thesame.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

I don't know if some are doing this intentionally or they were just out of ignorance thinking that using a prediction site in which they have to subscribe and pay their money for is sure for a winning, some will just developed a wrong mentality of what is not it at all, paying money to play a game that is not hundred percent sure for wining is indeed a double loss, some know about this while some do not.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

There are no guarantees when you join these prediction channels or sites online. The "pros" making these selections have a winning record normally or they wouldn't be making the predictions, but on average I think they win 60% or so of their selections. So when you join 1 of these channels where you are paying for predictions I feel like you are playing the Long game meaning you have to keep wagering until you martingale yourself to win. Long process that could be costly if they go on a bad streak.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Joining a signal group or a kind of group where game predictions are shared, the chances of their predictions being always correct is never there, and people in these groups know this, they just expect to win more from the predictions than they loose. If people in this kind of groups win more than they loose, they will not be bordered or consider it a double loss when they loose once. Prediction groups are not advised, but if you must trust one and decide to join, then never join a prediction group and pay a fee where they promise 100% accuracy in their predictions at all times.

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They'd felt hurt. They paid for nothing and just made the owners of those groups richer with the VIP that they've paid.

That is the reason why many of us have been given the reminder to never trust them or never join any of it. You're missing the joy of having fun in sports betting by joining it.

But if that's an amount of money that you can enjoy then you better give that to them and test if they're really gonna work or not.

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It feels like a bummer to rely on the paid prediction and lose. It is obviously disappointing to lose when we believe that paid prediction will bring a gain for us. But I would not mind it if the gain of winning from relying on the paid prediction gives me wins rather than losses. A ratio of 3:1 or 75% accuracy is tolerable for me not to get irritated with the paid service. We all know that there are no 100% predictions and since I am paying for their service, I am expecting that the gain will outweigh the losses. But if it is the other way around, I would instantly stop my subscription to that paid service.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 30, 2024, 05:31:33 PM

Quote from: Text on July 30, 2024, 05:22:02 PM

It's definitely a tough pill to swallow. Paying for something that promises a high chance of winning, only to end up losing is incredibly frustrating. It's like losing twice – the money and the hope. That’s why I never invested in a prediction service, only to end up losing even after paying for what I thought were sure-fire predictions.

And that should give you a hard lesson not to trust this type of group. You have no idea where they are getting their signals and how they are predicting such results of the event. Most if not all are just after for the money, hence, they will give predictions even if the likelihood of happening is low. Just think of the fact that they are also humans, who are only basing their predictions from experience and knowledge of the sports. There are still blind spots that they may not consider as they have no control of such as environmental conditions, unknown injuries, coach strategies among others.

Alot of sport bettors have become victims of this scams, and funny thing is that many of them still subscribe to the service on daily basis even with the high rate of loses that have been recorded using such predictions sites and services, I hard a case sometimes ago where a gambler paid high amount of such predictions, and at the end when the game was played he lost, and being angry with the outcome he got the guys that linked him up with the scammer arrested and eventually he was able to recover the money he paid for that predictions service.
But that leads me to ask a question, which is.

What will happen if the gambler make the subscription payment in cryptocurrencies let say like bitcoin or USDT, it could become impossible to track the scammers if the predictions failed?

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In the past, most of the buyers of paid predictions services were gamblers who wanted to get match fixing information.
So they are not new with sports betting and already know what the risks when paying for prediction services like that, even for those who have subscribed for a long time - the buyer can pay for the predictions after they win and don't have to pay if they lose.

And now there are more and more scammers offering paid prediction services even though they are just making random predictions.
Also the predictions of these scammers are not always wrong because there are only 2 option, team/player A or team/player B, Over/Under, etc.
it's better to use our own analysis rather than spending money to buy prediction services like that.

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Quote from: Text on July 30, 2024, 05:22:02 PM

It's definitely a tough pill to swallow. Paying for something that promises a high chance of winning, only to end up losing is incredibly frustrating. It's like losing twice – the money and the hope. That’s why I never invested in a prediction service, only to end up losing even after paying for what I thought were sure-fire predictions.

And that should give you a hard lesson not to trust this type of group. You have no idea where they are getting their signals and how they are predicting such results of the event. Most if not all are just after for the money, hence, they will give predictions even if the likelihood of happening is low. Just think of the fact that they are also humans, who are only basing their predictions from experience and knowledge of the sports. There are still blind spots that they may not consider as they have no control of such as environmental conditions, unknown injuries, coach strategies among others.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Hahaha, Definitely that will be the double loss Grin

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Currently I am seeing that after trading signal group this js the new arrivals things. I have seen some telegram group of the gambling signal group like Aviator Predictors . But the interesting thing is I have sawn most these groups are sending the signal they don't have open some times they sends some pic of their users that they gain profit IMO these all are fakes review. So definitely investing on these will be 100% double loss.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Of course, you feel mad because you expect something in return for trusting and for the money you spend. Nobody will say I'm okay, certainly not the word we heard but blaming and regrets.

I don't know, and I don't understand, why there are gamblers who rely on and think that signal groups are reliable when knowing that gambling is a game of luck. I couldn't find a reason to believe these people (scammers), knowing that predictions have only a slim chance of being right.

I believe that only a fool will do this, but a wise and responsible gambler will trust themselves rather than trusting others's predictions.

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It's definitely a tough pill to swallow. Paying for something that promises a high chance of winning, only to end up losing is incredibly frustrating. It's like losing twice – the money and the hope. That’s why I never invested in a prediction service, only to end up losing even after paying for what I thought were sure-fire predictions.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

This is a stupid idea to begin with. Mathematically, any additional costs to place a bet (in this case, a fee for a forecast) greatly worsen the value of the bet and you will lose all your money faster than if you bet on your own.
Let's say you pay $50 for a forecast and place a bet of $1,000. The bookmaker's margin is 4-6%, which means that on average you will lose ~$50 from a bet of $1,000. The fee for the forecast seems small compared to the bet amount, but in fact you are making your situation twice as bad with such actions.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

That's bad loss you can get for that scenario since instead you get good insights for paying those predictions the result still didn't goes as you wanted since still you loss.

Instead of paying royalties to those people or site proclaimed that they are expert in the field. Better to do your own analysis since even if you lose still you didn't get squeeze by those pretentious which main goal is to accumulate peoples money(scam them) then left all of those people who pay hanging.

Those prediction sites or people doing that is just manipulating people and take advantage the wants of people to earn that's why they see some opportunity to scam people by doing those activities what we have been discussed.

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