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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 01, 2024, 03:56:28 PM

LOL bets can't be 100% guaranteed. It can only happen when they are rigged actually. And reliably rigged I would say, because they can even have scams during fixed matchs, because no one will call the police or sue in court someone for not having cheated in the exact way he has been paid for.

That is so funny but you have made good points undoubtedly no one can involve the police in the case of being scammed while attempting to patronize scammers for fixed matches, as in there is no better way of relating such issues to the police without getting in tobmore troubles yeah most times people can become carried away by only thinking on one direction which is profit maximization that has no guarantee and totally forget about the risk involvement but however, it really hurts to become a victim of scam in whichever way it is.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

The truth about the thread is that similar thread has been created concerning how much we trust predictions sites, surely your narrative are some worth of double loss, they loss their money they paid for the game and also loss the money they used in playing the game, thou there is nothing wrong taken games from prediction sites but it is completely wrong to rely on them, at most times what i use to ask my self is why can't they give out the games to be paid for after winning? I have not paid for any games before but I believe it is going to be very awful to pay for game and loss after playing, which is apparently double loss.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 01, 2024, 03:56:28 PM

LOL bets can't be 100% guaranteed. It can only happen when they are rigged actually. And reliably rigged I would say, because they can even have scams during fixed matchs, because no one will call the police or sue in court someone for not having cheated in the exact way he has been paid for.

Once most of us understand this then the subscribers on those predictions channels/groups will reduce.
Yeah there is not predictions that is 100% sure or let's say guaranteed of winning because winning a bet is based on luck, if we are not lucky we can not win. It's just that no matter how we subscribe to those channels if luck is not there while can't win both those that played the same games can not win because luck is what makes the winning happen. Even if one caught the person that predicted the games and sue him/her to court he might win the case if the predictor has a good lawyer and also has money, because his lawyer will say every gambler knows that winning is by luck and the predictor only trys his best to predict the games. And still he might also bring former bets that he might have won and the lawyer will use it as an evidence to show that winning is by luck. Well am just say that even if one sue a predictor to court the predictor might still win the case.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

I have personally been a victim to this multiple times, and I know how painful it will feel to pay for an acclaimed Sure Sport prediction or trading signal, and still end up losing both (i.e Sure prediction payment and betting amount). So from that I have learned to understand that nothing such as sure prediction do exists, as what these people sells are their personal analysis, which could either be true or lie, hence, it will be very good if people who wishes to gamble on sport betting could dive into understanding the very sport they intend to gamble on, so as to be able to predict games themselves, rather than buying, and likewise those who intend to trade to go learn.

Hence, the worst thing that can happen to any gambler is to keep losing double while gambling.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Never pay for any signals you are offered on the internet. Matches' results are random and can't be predicted with assurance beforehand, unless the matches are going to be fixed and there is a scheme behing it, involving the group where signals are being shared. Anyway, even if there is a scheme going on and you think you can take advantage of it, I don't think it's a good idea, because it's not a legit thing. To bet on fixed matches means being part of the cheating.

When placing bets, always follow your personal intuition or follow a guess people you trust share with you, but forget about strangers on the internet making wonderful promises they can't fulfill. If those people were so accurate like they claim, they wouldn't be selling their services on the internet in first place. They would be just enjoying huge profit made from gambling by themselves.

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Whether you would really be hovering on social media or you would really be tending to watch youtube then you could really be able to see these type of ads on which it is really that truly laughable.
The primary thing that comes up into my mind on how the heck these type of ads about signals and other stuffs is really that playing right now or been shown? Recently i have seen in youtube about trading signals
that they are guaranteeing profits. LOL! It would really be just on the same concept into those people who are really that dealing with sports betting and claiming to have those good winning rate and providing tips and
bet recommendations with just paying up a certain amount on which it doesnt really make any sense if you would really be trying out to think up again on what it is all about.

Never ever paid up for some betting choices and tips on which you would really be that someone whose really that providing on which of course you would really be needing to pay for that and as i have said
that it doesnt really have any sense to do that. You could really be able to make your own and on the moment that it would be losing then you do have at least having that kind of
no regret since you do know that it was your choice or selection.

Yup yo know what Im talking about hahha some signal like trading signal last I saw on Instagram Ads told you that will give you a guarantee profit. To be honest I still didn't get that I mean if he can make a guaranteed profit then why he still need money by selling signal right.

Some signal price can be above 1000 USD per month which is crazy and of course, I learned from the past that I am not going to pay a buck for paid signal services

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I'd imagine it'd be similar to paying for predictions in sports betting and your bankroll could get a beating in the process depending on how much the predictions cost. I was in a similar situation back then only because I was having bad luck with my predictions and saw someone winning their bets, and then his luck quickly flipped after a few days. It usually feels frustrating to lose your bets and the realization of wasting a portion of your bankroll through paid prediction could make it worse, but instead of feeling bad, you should treat it as a costly lesson.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on August 01, 2024, 05:09:36 PM

I get that some people just fall into desperation which leads them to do these things but at the end of the day if you haven't tried looking at gambling as something you can make money out of in the first place, you probably wouldn't have to deal with the major consequences that it entails and is currently biting you back in the ass, but oh well.

Depression is real, I know that but, I also think there are more positive ways of combating it rather than falling to ways that are risky and in itself addictive.
When you let you desperate need to make a dollar control how you manage yourself in a depressed state, you be damned sure you about to make several mistakes as this would go a long way to influence your judgement.
Which could be you having to rely on others for your prediction, subscribing to the idea and services as well as, taking huge bets on them.

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Quote from: Su-asa on August 01, 2024, 09:14:59 AM

It's true because if it's not luck gamblers won't win a cent from gamble. Some gamblers that joins the channels don't play according to all the predictions, they reshuffle the games, removed the ones they are not certisfied with and keep the remaining. Some of them also make their own research about the games (like checking to their head to heads) before placing them, but still it's just luck that makes us all to win.

When we already know that our winning will depends on our luck, we don't have to playing gambling with hard because that can makes us forget to control ourselves and only gives a big lose. We don't want to experience a big lose in gambling because that can hurt our feeling so we must control ourselves.
We don't have to moves to other gambling games when we already lose our money but stopping the games will be necessary. That will helps us to prevents the more losses.
We must calm down our emotion because of our lose because that can triggers to keeps gambling without stop. If you can hold your emotion and not tempting to playing other gambling games, you will not lose more money because you will stops your gambling activities immediately.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Normally when one lose in a game it is usually painful, and if one is planning of getting games from predictions channels and fail to understand that gambling is unpredictable which it can end up with win or lose will surely lead one being very emotional. No one is an expert in gambling, people who give predictions are humans like every gambler which they can surely lose their game or win. Games from prediction centre their is no guarantee that it will end up becoming a win, when people are getting games from prediction centre it is important for them not expert so much because gambling will remain a game that can't be predicted and a game of luck.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Well of course it's downright awful. Pretty much the same thing that desperate people feel when they hire a witch to make someone do stuff for them or get luck by their side this time around, only for it to horribly fail eventually. And this is the very reason why I don't advocate for availing these kinds of things as well. Just stupid to spend more money you already are in desperate need of, over something that will never be a 100% guarantee.

I get that some people just fall into desperation which leads them to do these things but at the end of the day if you haven't tried looking at gambling as something you can make money out of in the first place, you probably wouldn't have to deal with the major consequences that it entails and is currently biting you back in the ass, but oh well.

While some bets can definitely be guaranteed to be on one side or the other I wouldn't trust someone who claims they have signals for shit. Just textbook protection of yourself or your funds.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 01, 2024, 03:56:28 PM

LOL bets can't be 100% guaranteed. It can only happen when they are rigged actually. And reliably rigged I would say, because they can even have scams during fixed matchs, because no one will call the police or sue in court someone for not having cheated in the exact way he has been paid for.

Bets company have complex hurdles to resolved, never been easy from the sector of these companies because they've traffics and most of them doesn't or feels reluctant to work on their websites, thereby complaints coming in from their customers, leading to dishonesty and lack of trusts for gambling. Gambling, I can never depend on the system because it's been designated to frustrate people and I personally encounter gamblers that are addicted, losses becomes a general thing for them. Trust me when I say, Gambling is not a path to follow because it always doesn't end well for us.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

If you are talking about betting prediction signals, it is something very difficult to get right, I don't think this exists in the betting market and whoever provides this type of service is at least suspicious and tries to scam the unwary.

Due to people's thirst and desperation for profit, they end up believing anything they see, which opens the door for opportunists to take advantage of the demand.

So far, honestly, I really don't believe in the prediction signals offered by experts or groups of people, because after all, if you think and respond to it using common sense and a rational point of view, then I'm sure you will also think that it is something that doesn't make sense, as you said that the service is suspicious. Moreover, if we talk about gambling, of course, gambling is a betting activity that can never be accurately predicted about what will happen at the end of the session, it is always gray.

I only believe in the signal if the signal comes from the casino itself, or a bookie who owns a casino where they know which choices will make you win and which choices will make you lose, but if the signal provider is not known about the clarity or origin, then I think you should be careful, but after all, it doesn't make sense if the bookie leaks a truth or winning formula, because of course the casino wants all gamblers to lose, because the defeat of the gamblers is an advantage for the casino, so think using a rational mindset so that you are not easily fooled and regret it.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 01, 2024, 03:56:28 PM

LOL bets can't be 100% guaranteed. It can only happen when they are rigged actually. And reliably rigged I would say, because they can even have scams during fixed matchs, because no one will call the police or sue in court someone for not having cheated in the exact way he has been paid for.

Who believes in prediction signals? I just assumed that the predictions they gave were in small matches that were match-fixing matches, who knows they have a plot with this scheme because they opened a prediction signal.

I don't know what the scheme will be, will he give cheats or is he a pro who is preying?

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

If you are talking about betting prediction signals, it is something very difficult to get right, I don't think this exists in the betting market and whoever provides this type of service is at least suspicious and tries to scam the unwary.

Due to people's thirst and desperation for profit, they end up believing anything they see, which opens the door for opportunists to take advantage of the demand.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Those so called premium predictions groups tend to have more wins than losses because they definitely have to do their customers well if they want them to come back again and renew their subscription (for those that take monthly subscription) and also to have more pictures to posts on their free channels to win more people to pay for the premium subscription.

So if they lose one game out of 5 then it shouldn’t be an issue for them but the only time they should panic or fear that they have paid for the wrong thing is when they start losing more than they have won - that’s when I’d consider it a double loss, but if they have 80% wins (which I’m not sure is possible because I haven’t joined any premium group before) then it’s okay.

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LOL bets can't be 100% guaranteed. It can only happen when they are rigged actually. And reliably rigged I would say, because they can even have scams during fixed matchs, because no one will call the police or sue in court someone for not having cheated in the exact way he has been paid for.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Are people still actually paying for predictions?? It's quite funny to me because we live In a generation where you can have access to these things for free, if you are new to sports betting there are several websites to get free predictions, there are even predictions on YouTube you can get daily if you subscribe to their channels which doesn't require any fee whatsoever, so why are people still wasting their money on something that is not even 100 percent accurate..at the end of the day you might lose the bet and the money paid on prediction would be a waste, I consider this to be a bad investment

many people is still extracting prediction from gambling which I know quite well that gambling is something people don't predict well, what they really like is to get a good source to win a gambling, so people doesn't believe that them will predict and make well in gambling, so that's why they always look for alternatives to make sure that they have a legit source of predictions site that will not fail them, but not knowing that gambling is something that has to do with luck and those people who says that predictions website is legit one are the people that lose much in gambling.

As a gambler when you know that winning is hard it will also help you to know that those predictions are not sure at all. Prediction channels/groups are not the kind of play a player should put hope on, it's important to Believe on your own predictions than others predictions because even if you predict an still lose the game it won't hurt you compared to the ones you bought and still end up losing. Gamble is luck and we shouldn't depend on others or our predictions when the games are not yet decided.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 30, 2024, 03:16:30 PM

Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

Are people still actually paying for predictions?? It's quite funny to me because we live In a generation where you can have access to these things for free, if you are new to sports betting there are several websites to get free predictions, there are even predictions on YouTube you can get daily if you subscribe to their channels which doesn't require any fee whatsoever, so why are people still wasting their money on something that is not even 100 percent accurate..at the end of the day you might lose the bet and the money paid on prediction would be a waste, I consider this to be a bad investment

many people is still extracting prediction from gambling which I know quite well that gambling is something people don't predict well, what they really like is to get a good source to win a gambling, so people doesn't believe that them will predict and make well in gambling, so that's why they always look for alternatives to make sure that they have a legit source of predictions site that will not fail them, but not knowing that gambling is something that has to do with luck and those people who says that predictions website is legit one are the people that lose much in gambling.

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If you want to ask about the feeling then the answer is the same as your title "This is a double loss thing." First of all I actually never had or knew about a group that basically give a signal for gambling use, I knew a channel that selling crypto signal for spot and future sbut never know about paid signal for gambling.

The case is still the same whether you buy a signal for gambling or a signal for trade the result is gonna be a double loss thing, back then I paid a lot for a trading signal but the result was not good enough to pay another month. From there I never bought again because in my opinion they just sell their signal but usually don't care with their result they only post a picture when profit but rarely post when hit loss, In trading I still believe in copy trade rather than paid signal.

Maybe it's just their tricks to make gambling signals and already consider themselves good at sports betting so they make scenarios like this, but I rarely find gambling signals.

Pay for gambling signals - Lose bets - Then it's a double loss.

Actually, it is not much different from trading signals, the advertisements they offer are clearly promising by showing winning pictures and this is usually spread on social media everywhere, which in the end is to attract many people to join, in essence just avoid it, this clearly does not make sense.

I know right Im just not rarely find but I never actually find about gambling signal at the beginning I just don't believe there is kind of signal that provide for gambling.

Even tho there is gambling signal then it should be easy to find for the provider winning streak from their own game without selling it. If he so good he can multiply his money in no matter of second IMO.

Social media is the great attractor even today i still find the trading signal in my daily ads hahah

Whether you would really be hovering on social media or you would really be tending to watch youtube then you could really be able to see these type of ads on which it is really that truly laughable.
The primary thing that comes up into my mind on how the heck these type of ads about signals and other stuffs is really that playing right now or been shown? Recently i have seen in youtube about trading signals
that they are guaranteeing profits. LOL! It would really be just on the same concept into those people who are really that dealing with sports betting and claiming to have those good winning rate and providing tips and
bet recommendations with just paying up a certain amount on which it doesnt really make any sense if you would really be trying out to think up again on what it is all about.

Never ever paid up for some betting choices and tips on which you would really be that someone whose really that providing on which of course you would really be needing to pay for that and as i have said
that it doesnt really have any sense to do that. You could really be able to make your own and on the moment that it would be losing then you do have at least having that kind of
no regret since you do know that it was your choice or selection.

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