Topic: This is the thread where you discuss free market, americans and libertarianism - page 38. (Read 33901 times)

aaahh yes the carina case. lol it was a huge fail.

no, Mother Denmark is not abusive. But i would likely get ass raped and murdered in a AnCap society.

look at somalia, AnCap was going strong there, and people where really happy and lived in peace.

Denmark, huh.  No wonder you guys love the state.

Danes Rethink a Welfare State
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/world/europe/danes-rethink-a-welfare-state-ample-to-a-fault.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&


But I wouldn't get too comfortable, if I were you...

Yup, personal responsibility is a bitch, it's nice to have mommy Government to fall back on, huh? Too bad she's such an abusive parent.

Atheists are wrong, they believe there is no god(s)(yes, i used believe; let the flamewar begin!). Agnostics are better, they just accept that they don't know, and it does not matter whatever there exist god(s) or not.

the only thing that i have learned about ancap on this forum is that people are crazy. I have become more statist then i was before.

so you are not convincing me, you are not convincing blablahblah, and you are not convincing mystery miner. and you other people are not circle jerking, with people who share your believes.


in the state of Denmark, i have more then enough freedom to be happy. and i think giving me more freedom and responsibility would make me less happy. It is nice to have a state to blame when stuff fucks up.

Exactly the same here.  I was in favor of gun bans (for some reason, I thought this might help anything) and thought anarchists were a bunch of loonies who had no idea how "the system worked".  Realized they're like Atheists; they know more about the state more than anyone supporting the state does, which is why they're against it to begin with.

Honestly, for a forum debate, this is the perfect length. If you're not at least swayed to consider liberty from that, you're either a heartless psychopath, or a blithering idiot.

Me also.  I've come across this accusation before.  It's basically trying to get people to shut up by implying that what they are doing is useless and wasting their time.

The reality is that this is the new media and we are all able to give our opinion now, unlike newsprint or TV where you just have a few people imposing their (often bad and often wrong) opinions on society.

I had to try three times to write a response to this. You really should be writing for Leno. Or maybe Colbert. I bet he'd pay in Bitcoins.

Edit: Wait, I have an even better one.

Yes, it's too long. It would be fine in a proper debate, but this is a forum debate, where you can't expect the other guy to have the courtesy to try to fully understand your position, or expect him to have the attention span or mental capacity to grasp more than a few simple points and counter arguments at a time. For example, blablahblah seems to be under the impression that by "security" the paper is talking about "people generally behaving well," as opposed to actual scarce security products, such as private security personnel and tech that we would have to pay for. He also in turn misses the point that we do pay for all that security through taxes, but just don't have a say in whom we pick to secure us. Yet at the same time he seems to get what it is by coming up with an example of why such private security wouldn't work by saying "marauding by night, securing by day," and even saying that's it's naive to think private security would work. Which is even more ironic, since he mentions competition almost right after that, which makes me think that he is so deeply stuck in his belief that only one thing can provide security, that being government, that it's doubtful his mind can be changed. I mean, any other person would have realized right away that, in a competitive market, a company that had "marauding by night, securing by day" would quickly lose customers to a competing security company that would prevent nightly maraudings. Hell, even without competition, the company would lose customers because it is obviously failing to provide security it's being paid for.
I guess what I'm saying is blablahblah is kind of dumb.

That is a lot.

btw, were you just fuckin' with me, or did you really consider Production of Security too long? Because I wasn't joking, when I said it was very short for the genre.

I certainly learned a lot, too. Don't forget, two or three years ago I was a liberal, pro-regulation, pro-Keynesian economics democrat.

So why don't you go around shooting people in this illusion like you do in the CS illusion?

Beautiful post on another thread, kokjo:


If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were ancap!!!

Enough to break a finger to keep it?

You can exit the game of CS.

but i need my hand!

it does matter. i don't treat a game of counter strike as reality, but its still fun.

You would tie your hand to your arm to prevent it leaving? And when it throttled you in your sleep?

It doesn't matter if it's an illusion or not. You must treat it like it is reality in order to operate in it.

again: WTF!!!!

it is you who live in the illusion. i recognize that it can be an illusion, but still deals with because its fun.

Indeed I would. But since my cells, organs, and limbs are not sentient, I doubt I'll need to worry about it.

You're welcome to your comfortable illusions, if you like. I will deal with reality as I see it.

wtf! so if your hand decided to leave the rest of your body you would let it? don't you need hands dude?


See, i realize and considers the possibility of living in the matrix, while you laugh at me and telling me that im on lsd. I reserve the right to call you narrow minded and crazy.