Topic: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT - page 81. (Read 157137 times)

I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters.

First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin.

This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous.

Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin.
That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take.

Why?

If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process.

You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more.

After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers.

That is why ponzi schemes are getting more investment in bitcoin rather than real investment sites.

People want quick easy stuff, that promise them big, even if they dont deliver the promises, its just for their "feel good" feelings to make them entertained.

Humans are a joke really.

It's populism.
Of course a lot of people support Sanders, Trump and Classic.
They want easy solutions that they can understand.

That's the problem with democracy. It's based on who is the most popular and not who has the best ideas.

You are supposedly boycotting All The Core Things, according to https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/48hyjp/list_of_productsservices_to_boycott/

And yet, here you are not boycotting the Axis of Thermos, and there you go running tens of thousands of lines of code written by Core then borrowed by Classic.

Have you any idea how intellectually inconsistent at best and hypocritical at worst those actions appear to the rest of us?

Please feel free to act on your ostensible convictions, and fork off to Bitco.in.   

Instead of looking at the results, you should look at the initial reason, the cause.

Oh boy, now you've really pissed off the Free Shit Army.  Good job! 

BernieBro version: FreeTuition4Eva
Gavinista version: FreeTx4Eva

They've brought back XT's charming tradition of anti-Thermos 2 Minute Hates.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/48tguh/i_have_sent_this_modmail_to_the_admins_regarding/

Keep it up.  You know you're over the target when you get flak like this.

I miss the cute cartoons though.

What happened to /u/raisethelimit?  Did he die from an aneurysm or infected Hearnia?   

Hahahah!! This is so true!

wait i have to laugh

Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.

Rage quitting is its own reward.

EG:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/48re9o/sold_all_my_bitcoin_but_im_still_running_classic/

"I don't own any bitcoin after all these years and hopes and dreams. Feels like walking out on a marriage."   

Absolutely. The more people that sell the better. This is actually good for Bitcoin because.

Hush your mouth.  Let the GavinCoin fanboys waste their money on hellobitcoinworld's obvious Classic cloud-mining scam.

The result is we get to enjoy more whiny rage-quits, like this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/48ovtg/im_out_guys/   

"I sold my bitcoin"

Hellobitcoinworld claims to have racked up 14BTC in shares on p2pool without hitting a block?

I call bullshit.

So here is my basic understanding about this whole debate:

-If classic wins: (Socialists)
-Nodes get centralized due to blocksize growing faster than graham's law, and soon only a few corporations could host the blockchain , ending bitcoin
-This of course ends mining too and centralizes it to a handful of people
-Orphan block rate goes up (risk of fork) & the network slows down due to slower communication between nodes
-Bitcoin becomes literally leftist socialist, with many freeriders trying to send 1-2 satoshi transactions for free, at the expense of others, typical leftist ideology
-Price volatility increases again madly due to loss of confidence in bitcoin and huge FUD that results of it.
-The huge waste that this method gives is bad for the enviroment and wastes a lot of resources


-If core wins: (Libertarians)
-Current solutions buy us more time to research alternatives better
-A rising fee market forces people to be more responsible with their transactions and ensures that people remain financially conservative, and preserve the libertarian atmosphere
-A sidechain technology could still process small transactions and unload them in bigger packages into the blockchain, making it efficient and conservative.
-Miners remain the same, or even earn more fees, since a lot of miners are mining at net loss, this will help them more
-Node count doesnt get affected since blockchain wont grow that fast
-Efficiency ensures that this method remains enviroment friendly, and wont waste resources
-People will remain confident in bitcoin in the long term, as they see how efficient it becomes
-Price volatility decreases and it will become very stable like any other currency


BASICALLY IT BOILS DOWN TO THIS:  LEFT vs RIGHT!

Let me know if I missed something.

XT-cum-Classic agent provacateur hellobitcoinworld is having a very sad day full of many angry.   



Hellobitcoinworld is extremely frustrated, wanting so badly to tweak Bitcon's scaling variable only to be told Sorry Not Tonight Dear.   

Long live the code!

Hard consensus never lies, changing It will requiere a bit more than appeal to authority, social media brigading and a buncha CEOs that did not properly investigated the underlying technology they rushed on like leeches.