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Topic: [Trading Bot]... iTrader ... Cryptsy, Mt.Gox, BTC-e, Vircurex & More supported! - page 4. (Read 13063 times)

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www.coincloud.tk :)
Screenshots?  Also, your nick doesn't inspire confidence Smiley


http://snag.gy/NUFAE.jpg

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haha, someone else said that in another board (it's the name of a song!)
hero member
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Screenshots?  Also, your nick doesn't inspire confidence Smiley
member
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www.coincloud.tk :)
Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

Would it really kill you to just give it to a few of the trusted members here? Seriously. It won't cost you anything to do so and once its shown to be legit you'll be rolling in the dough.
You are probably concerned that whomever you give it to will leak it to the community for free. I get that. I wouldn't want that to happen to my work either. The thing is you would know who you gave the program too. Hell you could even add a bit of code in it identifying who got what copy when you give it out so you can tell who may have leaked it on you and then you can take appropriate action against them.

The very fact that you won't do this, or even accept escrow only tells the community that this is a scam and nothing more. You now have made it so you have to prove its a legit program. No one has to prove its a scam. Everyone believes that already. You have to show them that they are wrong.

I am not being negative, or critical I am being logical. I want your program to succeed and I want to use it myself but I won't touch anything like that without someone well known giving it a thumbs up first.

I don't mean to be awkward but I'm not going to be pressured into giving out free copies of my program..
If I wasn't so new to the forum myself maybe I would have more trust in the escrow's on offer but as I've explained before I've been scammed by escrow's in the past and therefore don't wish to use another. I can see why it may be seen as a scam due to what has happened in the past but still don't wish to share source to prove its legit.  Again I thank everyone for your comments, offers and interest in the bot.
I'll repeat my offer, any forum members (first 3) who do choose to buy the bot and write a review I'll offer a 10% refund! Smiley
I've said my part now, I don't mind if you choose to hold off buying the bot until then and look forward to doing business with you in the future!




Not sure what to write here so:

DELIVERY?: Yes / 21st
VIRUS?: No / Clean
G.U.I: 4/5
EASE OF USE: 4/5
OVERALL: 4/5

IMPROVEMENT: Add CampBX, Vicurex, Bitstamp

I'll re-review this in a week or so once I let it run for a while.

Refund plz! Grin
PM Sent
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 The only other reason I could see for this resistance is that if he's actually getting orders already AND has some sort of malicious aspect to his software - that or it's a straight up scam, the software doesn't exist and he's just hoping that he'll get a 1 or 2 btc off his effort through the binary+source sale.



He isn't getting orders per the blockchain, yet.
sr. member
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Insisting that a software vendor use escrow is laughable.

My insistence is not due to the fact that this is a software vendor.  It is due to the fact that at least the last three in a row software vendors that offered similar software for similar prices and had similar new members aaying how good it looked took the money and never gave a product (or even proved one existed besides screenshots).  Given that back-drop, I highly disagree that it is laughable.  And I know John K (who is well respected in this forum) would do so.  Plus MANY software development sites enforce a type of escrow prior to releasing payment.

So, I repeat my offer, full price, escrow thru John K and I will report back to all whether it works or there is malware involved.  Can't see the downside here to the developer - he gets paid in full and a respected forum member here handles the escrow, more sales will come if I report it is legit.  Really only reason to worry is that the legit part is absent - hopefully not.

That being said, firefops proposal would also work.

I'm inclined to agree, I don't really see a reason for being resistant to escrow... it's not like we're asking for all orders to be escrowed, just the first one. Sure that's a delay of a week(ish) on the first order. Bid deal, you've already designed the software. The only other reason I could see for this resistance is that if he's actually getting orders already AND has some sort of malicious aspect to his software - that or it's a straight up scam, the software doesn't exist and he's just hoping that he'll get a 1 or 2 btc off his effort through the binary+source sale.

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In the alternative - put up an instant checkout system on your site.  Not too hard to do (many vendors out there), including all the ones located here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-digital-goods-with-bitcoin-195991
hero member
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Insisting that a software vendor use escrow is laughable.

My insistence is not due to the fact that this is a software vendor.  It is due to the fact that at least the last three in a row software vendors that offered similar software for similar prices and had similar new members aaying how good it looked took the money and never gave a product (or even proved one existed besides screenshots).  Given that back-drop, I highly disagree that it is laughable.  And I know John K (who is well respected in this forum) would do so.  Plus MANY software development sites enforce a type of escrow prior to releasing payment.

So, I repeat my offer, full price, escrow thru John K and I will report back to all whether it works or there is malware involved.  Can't see the downside here to the developer - he gets paid in full and a respected forum member here handles the escrow, more sales will come if I report it is legit.  Really only reason to worry is that the legit part is absent - hopefully not.

That being said, firefops proposal would also work.

newbie
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Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

Would it really kill you to just give it to a few of the trusted members here? Seriously. It won't cost you anything to do so and once its shown to be legit you'll be rolling in the dough.
You are probably concerned that whomever you give it to will leak it to the community for free. I get that. I wouldn't want that to happen to my work either. The thing is you would know who you gave the program too. Hell you could even add a bit of code in it identifying who got what copy when you give it out so you can tell who may have leaked it on you and then you can take appropriate action against them.

The very fact that you won't do this, or even accept escrow only tells the community that this is a scam and nothing more. You now have made it so you have to prove its a legit program. No one has to prove its a scam. Everyone believes that already. You have to show them that they are wrong.

I am not being negative, or critical I am being logical. I want your program to succeed and I want to use it myself but I won't touch anything like that without someone well known giving it a thumbs up first.

I don't mean to be awkward but I'm not going to be pressured into giving out free copies of my program..
If I wasn't so new to the forum myself maybe I would have more trust in the escrow's on offer but as I've explained before I've been scammed by escrow's in the past and therefore don't wish to use another. I can see why it may be seen as a scam due to what has happened in the past but still don't wish to share source to prove its legit.  Again I thank everyone for your comments, offers and interest in the bot.
I'll repeat my offer, any forum members (first 3) who do choose to buy the bot and write a review I'll offer a 10% refund! Smiley
I've said my part now, I don't mind if you choose to hold off buying the bot until then and look forward to doing business with you in the future!
sr. member
Activity: 420
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Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

Would it really kill you to just give it to a few of the trusted members here? Seriously. It won't cost you anything to do so and once its shown to be legit you'll be rolling in the dough.
You are probably concerned that whomever you give it to will leak it to the community for free. I get that. I wouldn't want that to happen to my work either. The thing is you would know who you gave the program too. Hell you could even add a bit of code in it identifying who got what copy when you give it out so you can tell who may have leaked it on you and then you can take appropriate action against them.

The very fact that you won't do this, or even accept escrow only tells the community that this is a scam and nothing more. You now have made it so you have to prove its a legit program. No one has to prove its a scam. Everyone believes that already. You have to show them that they are wrong.

I am not being negative, or critical I am being logical. I want your program to succeed and I want to use it myself but I won't touch anything like that without someone well known giving it a thumbs up first.

I wouldn't say it's all that drastic... but this forum is known for being cynical. Insisting that a software vendor use escrow is laughable. On the other hand, there are plenty of trusted members or mods who wouldn't mind verifying that your code is clean and works once compiled.

I for example would offer to take your code & binaries... verify that it does what it says (and only that) and then post results (including checksums of the compiled binaries to reassure users who can't read code). Assuming it checks out and is legit... I would then pay your standard rate for the software+source... since I would like a copy of for my personal use.

But if you don't want to use me for that - there are dozens of others who would perform such a service for you.

sr. member
Activity: 441
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Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

Would it really kill you to just give it to a few of the trusted members here? Seriously. It won't cost you anything to do so and once its shown to be legit you'll be rolling in the dough.
You are probably concerned that whomever you give it to will leak it to the community for free. I get that. I wouldn't want that to happen to my work either. The thing is you would know who you gave the program too. Hell you could even add a bit of code in it identifying who got what copy when you give it out so you can tell who may have leaked it on you and then you can take appropriate action against them.

The very fact that you won't do this, or even accept escrow only tells the community that this is a scam and nothing more. You now have made it so you have to prove its a legit program. No one has to prove its a scam. Everyone believes that already. You have to show them that they are wrong.

I am not being negative, or critical I am being logical. I want your program to succeed and I want to use it myself but I won't touch anything like that without someone well known giving it a thumbs up first.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?

It is not just the malicious code bit - most (all) of them took money and never produced anything.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hello again everyone, Thanks again for the feedback and comments although so much negative vibes! Sad (although I understand the negativity, seeing as there have apparently been similar trading bots with malicious code attached in the past!) ..How about I offer a 10% refund offer for the first 3 who post a review?
newbie
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Looks like a lot of work went into this, nicely done
sr. member
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As this is in the Newbie forum - I just advise everyone to use escrow, if possible.  I know this seller says no way on it, so you just have to assume the risk that you will get nothing (like the three other currency trading bots that have been posted over the past two or three months) Smiley.  However, this seller has been active - so who knows?

I urge the OP to reconsider their refusal at going thru escrow - it just protects us all (and I know would lead to a sale or two almost instantly as I see there have been no sales so far).

Agreed. I would also suggest the op give the source to a trusted member or 3 for unbias reviews.

All the op needs to do to sell their program is prove to the community that its legit. Once thats done there will be a line up to buy the program.
sr. member
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Is this legit??

buy it and submit the source to the community, we find out Smiley
hero member
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As this is in the Newbie forum - I just advise everyone to use escrow, if possible.  I know this seller says no way on it, so you just have to assume the risk that you will get nothing (like the three other currency trading bots that have been posted over the past two or three months) Smiley.  However, this seller has been active - so who knows?

I urge the OP to reconsider their refusal at going thru escrow - it just protects us all (and I know would lead to a sale or two almost instantly as I see there have been no sales so far).
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sr. member
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interesting. will have to see how this turns out.
newbie
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I would offer the use of an escrow service but like yourself have had a bad experience  with them in the past so prefer to handle my own transactions now.

Then good luck.  Way too risky, in my opinion.

Thank you? .. Happy trading!

looks legit...


Thanks Smiley
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