TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin - page 32.

mmm3737

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Quote from: dolkhaliguy on January 12, 2018, 05:29:54 AM

I paid (ETH) & upload the proof of payment on Wednesday. but still waiting for any confirmation that they received my money or not . It looks like a scam to me now

FYI - I purchased and uploaded proof of payment on Tuesday and finally received confirmation today at 8:35am EST.

fazzx

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I agree, seems to be a lot of new accounts.

adotrulez

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This is one of the most dramatic threads I have ever read on BitCoinTalk. So much backlash and arguments, some with seemingly valid claims and some not so convincing. Whether this turns out to be legit or not, I have a problem with the fact that besides 'Entertainment' all the other users accusing TraDove of being a scam are newbies, some with as low as 2 activities. I would expect the average investor to have at least more than 1 or 2 activities on BCT. And if you have to create a fresh account just to lay your claims of being defrauded, then you're also a potential red flag/ troll.

I'm sitting on the fence on this one. For the sake of the naysayers I urge the DEVS to prove everyone wrong and let this project move on smoothly

BUT

If it does turn out that the naysayers are right (I certainly hope it doesn't) then it'll simply be one more leaf added to the "HOW NOT TO GET SCAMMED FOR DUMMIES" book.

All the best in your project.

jaksone

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The current TraDove platform connects business partners with its business social network.

dolkhaliguy

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I paid (ETH) & upload the proof of payment on Wednesday. but still waiting for any confirmation that they received my money or not . It looks like a scam to me now

tradove

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Hello, here to respond to a couple concerns people have brought up:

1.) Regarding refunds - We are honoring refunds. However, serving our investors by approving their transactions in a timely manner takes priority to giving refunds. When our investors' verifications are at a more manageable pace, we can proceed with the refunds and responding to emails. Our CEO, Kent Yan, has stated today that all requests for refunds must be made by 15 January.

2.) Regarding Duplicate Transaction IDs - Attention BBCoin Investors - Our transaction verification team has informed us that they have come across several instances of users attempting to submit payment proofs with Transaction IDs that had previously been used by registered investors on their completed orders.

All accounts found with duplicate or repeat Transaction ID numbers will be subsequently and immediately frozen until such time a user can validate that they made the initial transaction. All other delinquent accounts are frozen, their transactions cancelled and will be liquidated as soon as possible.

We’re aware that this is a concern that has been brought up by members of the Telegram chat group, and wanted to assure our investors that those attempting such an action have been caught in the act through the approval system and the spectacular efforts of our verification team. Those found using repeated transaction numbers have been caught, dealt with and permanently banned from the TraDove ICO and any future TraDove interactions.

Thank you for your interest in TraDove's BBCoin ICO!

mustafa.k786

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Hi Tradove team,

I have successfully participated in Presale and i am wondering when would the BBcoins get credited to my wallet? Any ETA?

Regards,
Kamal

modano182

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Quote from: JallyFax on January 11, 2018, 06:33:15 PM

Quote from: Kristen_Colwell on January 11, 2018, 10:37:25 AM

Quote from: b76d6g83 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:41 AM

I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Hi,

This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally.

My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose.

How deep is my knowledge of ICOs? Huh

Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space.

I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given.

Long story, short? I'm out!

Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good.

Peace out,

Kristen

So, in summation, you have jumped from the evident fraudship when people have seen the light thinking you can just walk off in to the sunset with our money.

You can't just walk away from this and expected to not be challenged.

Jallyfax - clearly everyone who has seen this is upset and is not going to believe anything I say so I am going to stop trying because clearly we are getting nowhere.

However, once your refund does come through, I would also ask that you confirm this happened on this forum.

It is true I created this profile to comment on this issue, but I am just a regular investor with TraDove...I live in Australia and have a full time job here. I have absolutely nothing to do with the company. I just thought I would share my experience with everyone - but again, people's emotions are running high at the moment which I completely understand.

So when people's money gets refunded I would like to see a confirmation of this by those same individuals.

Also - if no money is refunded in the next week I would also like to hear about this as well - as this may even make me start to wonder about the authenticity of the project.

But to me, everything looks above board at the moment, just very poorly organised.

Thanks again everyone.

JallyFax

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Quote from: Kristen_Colwell on January 11, 2018, 10:37:25 AM

Quote from: b76d6g83 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:41 AM

I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Hi,

This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally.

My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose.

How deep is my knowledge of ICOs? Huh

Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space.

I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given.

Long story, short? I'm out!

Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good.

Peace out,

Kristen

So, in summation, you have jumped from the evident fraudship when people have seen the light thinking you can just walk off in to the sunset with our money.

You can't just walk away from this and expected to not be challenged.

JallyFax

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Quote from: modano182 on January 11, 2018, 06:10:00 AM

Quote from: superflux on January 11, 2018, 03:02:29 AM

Quote from: modano182 on January 11, 2018, 02:51:27 AM

Hi everyone,

Just so everyone does not think this is a scam - here is my 4 ETH refunded back to me by TraDove.

https://imgur.com/a/IQUQu

I have reinvested this back into TraDove now as they have given me the confidence this is not a scam...

I came to this conclusion by thinking what are the green flags and what are the red flags?

The only red flag to most people is the fact that there was one 4chan member stating this was a scam due to the fact the ICO funds were immediately being moved to hundreds of different wallets.

The reason is fairly simple - the ICO funds (as confirmed when emailing Kent) have been moved onto CoinBase after they hit the TraDove accounts. Doing this is much more secure than storing the funds of an ICO in a single wallet. CoinBase spreads large amounts of funds into multiple wallets - however this is done in the backend of CoinBase - it is a blockchain security feature to spread risk, so if one wallet is compromised, the loss is minimal. Remember when Bittrex was hacked? This is because Bittrex did not do this - they had far too many funds stored in a single wallet point containing millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. So, this is why you are seeing funds moved from the TraDove ICO wallets into CoinBase and then CoinBase moving them in the backend into Binance wallets.

The only other red flag I can see raised by people is the poor grammatical skills on parts of the ICO website - please remember that the CEO of TraDove is Chinese and sometimes there may be slight spelling errors due to English being a second language - hardly a red flag in my view but I can see how others may interpret that.

Now if anyone has any other issues they would like to bring up I am more than happy to try and get answers for you or even answer them myself.

Finally, I am not in any way affiliated with TraDove, but I went through the entire range of emotions by investing, asking for a refund when I panicked and now am 100% back on board.

Thanks everyone

may i ask you why are you lying ? you sent 7 ethereum to tradoves ethereum address. Ok, you said you got fully refunded (4 eth out of 7 isn't fully refunded) but u didn't go back as you said you do. I almost believed you but the evidence shows otherwise.
Edit: the official tradove address is 0x90B12787fa2067ccb46f017f70C07529A562C6C9 . Only 1 payment was done to that address from your address.
His eth address is this: 0x633B73A3d7d1468B1DEB79859cB37c5318F15b1b

Also - regardless of the details of how I received my refund - doesn't this prove to you that this isn't a scam? It would have to be the worst scam in the world if they sent victims any of their money back haha

What it shows is that YOU are a liar. You have been caught out. You've made a new account, you've fabricated a refund while everyone who actually invested in this 'ICO' is sitting here waiting. We've been lied to. I was told I would receive a response and a refund within 24 hours. It has now been 50 hours and I have yet to hear anything. I guarantee if I had invested a further 2 ETH I wouldn't be sitting here waiting for it to be confirmed.

Still no email response. Still no ETH refunded.

It's a scam. At 10:30pm tomorrow when the third day hits I escalate this greatly. You will all end up falling. Laws exist for a reason and this is fraud. It is very clear to see that you are not an investor, you are part of the group.

modano182

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Quote from: NZICOInvestor on January 11, 2018, 11:51:40 AM

Still no refund from these fraudsters. Seems like no one else has received one too, just this tradove shill account modano182 lying to everyone to try and trick new investors.

I know a few lads on twitter with over 100k followers and big into ICOs. Wait til they hear about this scam.

What are you talking about you idiot...look if you don't want to invest, don't invest!

Just wait until everyone who asked receives their refund, then I want an apology.

atasmehmed

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hello i sent 0.17683571 btc to join ico.
I failed to join icoy.
bende telegram also sharing pictures.
I do not have the answer.
Could you help.

fazzx

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Quote from: NZICOInvestor on January 11, 2018, 11:51:40 AM

Still no refund from these fraudsters. Seems like no one else has received one too, just this tradove shill account modano182 lying to everyone to try and trick new investors.

I know a few lads on twitter with over 100k followers and big into ICOs. Wait til they hear about this scam.

Calm down, this is far from a scam, just unorganised.

They are getting their acts together now.

Kristen_Colwell

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Digital nomad reporting from the cryptosphere

Hi b76d6g83,

No worries! Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn. I'm an open book.

Kind regards,

Kristen

NZICOInvestor

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Still no refund from these fraudsters. Seems like no one else has received one too, just this tradove shill account modano182 lying to everyone to try and trick new investors.

I know a few lads on twitter with over 100k followers and big into ICOs. Wait til they hear about this scam.

b76d6g83

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Quote from: Kristen_Colwell on January 11, 2018, 10:37:25 AM

Quote from: b76d6g83 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:41 AM

I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Hi,

This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally.

My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose.

How deep is my knowledge of ICOs? Huh

Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space.

I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given.

Long story, short? I'm out!

Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good.

Peace out,

Kristen

Hi Kristen,

thank you very much for your reply and your honesty.
And I just want you to know that I never had in mind to put you in a bad light or to offend you.

Best wishes

Wanderer1291

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There was a FUD comment made a while back saying "They claim to be a really huge company/network B2B and they are not at all. It's in the best case scenario a very tiny company, that earn some money with email spamming."

I'd like to point out that their website, tradove.com, has an Alexa ranking of 31k at the time of this writing. That is VERY low for an Alexa ranking, and means they have a very high amount of website traffic. It's extremely difficult and requires a lot of traffic to get enough users to one's site to get an Alexa ranking under 100k... and the Tradove website's traffic has given them a super low ranking of 31k. That tells you something GOOD about how established their biz must be and the number of users who are using their website every single day (hint: it takes a crap ton of users to get an Alexa ranking that low). So in that context, accusing them of making their money by email spamming is totally delusional.

And those same users are going to be what gives Tradove's coin a much better-than-average chance of success.

(Yes, I'm brand new to the forum - this forum was one of my research stops prior to investing in the ico and I couldn't resist commenting.)

Anyhow, I hope they get someone on here who is familiar with the ico space to set the FUD'ers doubts to rest. As an investor, I don't like this thread coming up #1 in Google search.

Kristen_Colwell

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Digital nomad reporting from the cryptosphere

Quote from: b76d6g83 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:41 AM

I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Hi,

This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally.

My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose.

How deep is my knowledge of ICOs? Huh

Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space.

I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given.

Long story, short? I'm out!

Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good.

Peace out,

Kristen

mmm3737

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Quote from: b76d6g83 on January 11, 2018, 07:16:41 AM

I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Thanks b76d6g83 as I will be following your posts closely going forward. I too invested in the ICO, but unlike you I haven't received any confirmation that my payment was accepted. My order status has been at "pending" for 2 days now. I just sent an email to the addresses you mentioned above, so we'll see what happens.

Best

CryptoCristi

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Quote from: entertainment on January 11, 2018, 08:06:06 AM

REMINDER FOR NEWCOMERS.

THIS IS A SCAM

DONT INVEST OR REGISTER

STOP IT YOU RETARD! You are damaging my investment!!!

It is amazing what some FUD can do in this market.. People actually believe in this scam crap instead of doing their own due diligence..

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