Topic: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin - page 31. (Read 31946 times)

Hello everyone,

This is a message for Spanish speakers as the translation for the ANN Thread of this project is already on the forum.

¡Hola a todos!:

Os informo de que el anuncio de la ICO del proyecto TRADOVE ya está disponible en español.

¡Sois los bienvenidos a participar en el siguiente hilo!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2752707.new#new

The CEO and majority of the team are Chinese, so there is definitely a language and cultural barrier there. That said, you are right and this should not be an excuse to the level of unprofessionalism they've shown so far. They seem to be total noobs when it comes to crypto and are too cheap to hire professionals  

The CEO ended the AMA on YouTube screaming "show me the money", are you freaking serious?!! He wants to see the money yet doesn't want to show any proof of the promises he made and keeps dodging basic questions like where is the blockchain devs? How much have they raised exactly? When will they increase marketing? People have asked these questions everyday on their telegram chat without receiving any reliable answers.

Not showing Tradove any money until they show us some real answers.  

after long research i see tradove.com is the well known company in business. and BBCoin is their own coin so i dont think it is scam but i have some doubt about their Team because they don't have good blockchain team it is the one area where they are very weak

Hey everybody!

Has anyone read their "one pager"?

Looks like a 12 year old ESL student wrote it:

1. Relevancy. LinkedIn are general purpose. People on LinkedIn are getting contacted
for all kinds of people. If you contact them for business, that purpose will be diluted.
2. Asymmetry. While selling people do not mind using LinkedIn to contact buying
people, buying people are much less willing to use LinkedIn to contact selling
people as they come to LinkedIn mostly not for business reasons resulting in low
response rate
3. Credibility. Most of people on LinkedIn registered with public email, making it very
easy to fake identity and profile which is not good for business purposes
 
How can a startup hoping to raise $50 millions be so unprofessional???

Still waiting for my refund.

Until I receive a refund all of these posts are not valid. Anyone can create an account and claim to have received a refund.

I'll believe it when the refund is sitting back in my account.

What an exciting drama! I ate all the popcorn. But the end is still far. All I know is that there are a lot of fake records on the one side. Let's see how this will end. The project looks interesting, but it gets a lot of negativity. This a lot of questions.

Full of newbie accounts  here , I am not saying it's a scam or not , but do your best to research this ico before you send money to them .

Hi guys new to the site but thought I would post my experience with Tradove so far.

I made a request for a refund yesterday but they can only send the payment back to the original ETH address the ETH came from.

My Coinbase ETH address keeps changing every couple of hours and this means I no longer have my original ETH address I used for the payment.

I've been emailing someone from Tradove trying to work out the situation but I may not be able to get a refund. I've offered as much proof as I can, and I've also offered to show my driver's license and passport so hopefully this is enough for them to send to a different ETH address.

They told me they can't send refunds to different addresses because "there is someone using other's transaction IDs to make orders".

So hopefully all the proof I've given them and offered to provide is enough for them to help me out with this.

As far as people calling this a scam, I definitely don't think it is a scam. They've offered to refund me within a couple of hours.

Hopefully this all works out and I get my ETH back.

TraDove ico is currently open and so far they've collected over 6,000 ETH.

However, they're funnelling the funds via thousands of tiny wallets into Binance.



The ETH contribution address is:
0x90b12787fa2067ccb46f017f70c07529a562c6c9

If you do some digging through transactions you'll spot a pattern. Eth is being sent to staging wallets. Once a wallet reaches 100ETH, it is being split into 3 different wallets. Two of the three are large, about 98ETH total, and the third is the small remainder. In the new wallets for the two large amounts, the process repeats until it reaches 100 ETH, and again it splits.

What's interesting is where the small amounts are going. If you follow them, they bundle into wallets that reach about 4 ETH, then it goes to Binance.

Here's an example chain of transactions:
>From https://etherscan.io/address/0x90b12787fa2067ccb46f017f70c07529a562c6c9
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0x831ac669d2b567e0a31fb25f9e84ddecec01a302affb41959e9dd38abaa0cf42
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0xd27e3ee37894bbd9bee348a4c4839e5876a53b29
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8d5ed47414468e75039bc257c9256f4300e96377869b88cf6ee44211926b0daa
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0x79f7dbbfce4fd0749c7685a9f7808555828de127
>https://etherscan.io/tx/0xb012d82d68974c79153ea89d8386060dbf46324e5a0a8c09130bf6cb56c78c2d
>To https://etherscan.io/address/0xb7f274b8c1731187204e0b6d79fa5dbdb8ec44d0
>And then Finally to Binance:
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x22729aca88b59d2183426700524f5e0010ebda581f8468cf3d82a0e061982ade

SCAM

sure. i will keep you informed

@tradove
please hurry up to verify last payment!! Now it's 4 DAYS!!
I've done a payment last sunday and you have verified in only 1 hour!
Then I've put another payment last tuesday and it's still pending!

Thank you.

I'm investing in cryptocurrencies since last August (I'm 40years old and a good job). As you can understand now I've done a lot of money in the last 4 months  
Last time I've invested money was in the 2000-2003 years (it was a bad period for the "dot com" markets)
But I put myself in the shoes of a new investor who wants to invest now in cryptocurrencies. There is 99,9% scam alerts. Bitcoin itself is a scam (Jp Morgan said it's the bigges fraud ever...and a lot of famous financial newspaper said it)..and I can read on Reddit etc..scams alert about all the exchanges (Coinbase, Bittrex, Bitstamp etc..)

But I know it's impossible to do thousounds% of gains without risks....so I've invested some money into TraDove. I've read about their team and advisors and I've decided to trust them.
Maybe it's a scam...maybe not...but I try. If it's not a scam I'll gain a lot of money when TraDove will be traded on exchanges (because now only little investors are putting money on ICO for fear of scam).
If it will be really a scam, patience!  I will have lost only a very small part of what I have earned. In life...we must risk

(edit, just to tell I'm not a fake new user, you can find me on Reddit too: "blankpage78" (I'm a user with some karma and reuptation)

i received my funds also lol, this might actually be a legit ico...i was against them. but i duno now...might just wait for ico

my btc approved external thank you

Hello all! If you're interesting in learning more about TraDove and the BBCoin, our CEO Kent Yan did an AMA interview with crypto-YouTuber TheGobOne. Check it out here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINMEkW77VM

Can you post here once you get their replies please?
I'm sure some people will be interested in knowing what's the answer.

an update on my part:
after about 24 hours I mailed again to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected], yesterday. after a few hours I got a mail from merry meng that it is not possible to return the payment at the moment.
surprisingly I got the refund today and I am glad to be out. I do not care whether tradove will be a big thing in the next years or not. they are unorganised and I missed the interaction with and the proximity to us, the investors. without that, I cannot trust such a company.
I will consider this as an experience.
and because I was curious, I have just mailed to some of their corporating companies whether they really are active in this network and I am looking forward to their replies.

Best wishes

I'm here to say this:
This project is not a scam, they lack of professionalism regarding how they manage things. I got full refund today and i'm not a liar. For future investors, don't trust the FUD. They do honor refunds but it takes time because there are some people wanting to steal investors money by copying their transactions and trying to say that they're the owners. I hope that the persons who are saying that this is a scam without providing real proof must be banned on bitcointalk. This kind of people are intoxicating this community and should be punished. That is all i had to say, i refunded not because i lost trust in this project but because i think it's a pretty high hardcap and it won't give me an expected profit.

Hello all - I'm relatively new to the altcoin markets and ICOs. I've read through the ICO details and the WhitePaper. It does appear legitimate to me - although much of the team, founder and investors do not look like they are particularly clued into the altcoin business and could easily have been persuaded by the pitch around the potential return that attaching their name to such an ICO could yield, but they do look like genuine senior and reasonably well connected people in the banking and tech business - so I guess the hope is that with the presale money in hand they can go out and engage properly with the technical expertise. I struggle to see how this will have the kind of expected growth if it remains tied to a single portal. I'd like to see BBCoin become more of a Ripple for the BTB sector, able to be applied to several or all BTB platforms and not tied to the fortunes of TraDove company and site - developing a standard in blockchain code for verifying and logging trust histories that can be adopted by multiple platforms, and even a job for miners in operating a decentralised verification mechanism against public records of supplier registrations, trading, court judgement, bankruptcy, etc . Likewise I think the tokens will only be credible as a means of exchange for BTB transactions if something can be done to manage wild fluctuations and speculations on the token. I know a lot of us considering the ICO want to see this token shoot through the roof, but that kind of volatility will be a killer to supporting BTB transactions!

I'm also keen to see if this could be a platform/product/approach that could have particular benefit in developing markets/poorer countries. Trading volumes will be much lower here - so perhaps an action under the social responsibility line rather than profitability. Poorer countries suffer massively from lack of trust and in ability to achieve fair access to foreign exchange to trade products or import factors of production. That's why the most successful companies in these areas are large family owned conglomerates - keeping the supply chain in house and relationships within the family is the least bad trust and assurance system you can rely on. This is not available for small and medium sized operations or those without the resources for vertical and horizontal integration. This is where this technology and approach could see social outcomes: improving ease of doing business, inhibiting ability of elites and established players to raise prohibitive barriers to market entry, and even the chance to provide a degree of insulation of supply chains from the volatility of a poor macro-economic environment (such as inflation through poor regulation of money supply, etc).

On balance I think I am going to put some ETH into this venture - I will post here again when (and if!) my transaction is confirmed.

I spent some time in the Telegram chat yesterday and guys were saying that the dev members have no expertise in blockchain. Mods replied that a blockchain team in Slovenia would be hired - anyone care to shed more light on this subject?

How come an ICO with such all-star team of advisors and promising idea have such crappy marketing?