Topic: TraDove B2B ICO - World's first B2B coin - page 33. (Read 31926 times)

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THIS IS A SCAM


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I am ambivalent about tradove.
In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove.
However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread).
The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project).
I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that?
Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems:
https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4
Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected]. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date.

Best wishes

Sorry mate - I just figured it was easier to say fully refunded because they did completely refund what I asked for (being 4 ETH) - they were going to send me the full 7 but I decided to keep 3 ETH in there.

Once again I apologise superflux for not clarifying this as it probably makes my story look a little dodgy - I have just learnt a lot about TraDove over the last few days and feel that the least I can do for TraDove is help fight the FUD, given I took a lot of their time when I was freaking out about getting my refund.

cataropkr - I am sure this is at least the 100th time you have posted this and I am sure you have probably asked this 1,000 times in the Telegram. The answer from all of the staff working at TraDove is that refunds are being prioritised in order of who invested first - this may take 48 - 72 hours given the fact the staff are working extremely hard to process applications from new investors. Please be patient - your refund will come. When it does come can I please ask that you share this with the rest of the community? Once you see you have not been scammed I think it would be nice of you to retract your "scam" statements for everyone to see, as this will be a powerful message to all new investors...and they can rest assured knowing that they are investing in a safe and fully compliant project.

Thank you all

i was only reading at the beginning and didn't believe the FUD that was going. I saw your image with the refund and did some digging for my own safety. I looked up to your first comment when you said that they FULLY REFUNDED (which means 7 out of 7 ETH), and then you said that you got into tradove again, so i checked and from your eth address there was no such thing. I got into tradove and i don't regret it, if it's indeed a scam, i lost money that i was willing to loose.

Just to remind everyone, not to buy from these scammers, i asked for a refund more than 30hours ago and no answer, and after i uploaded the evidence of my payment on their wallet they completely deleted my payment from my account history. Its not approval, its not pending, its not at all. its gone.

say no to scammers.

Thanks for the comment. And of course I'm still waiting for an explanation from the team on a very important issue.

Also - regardless of the details of how I received my refund - doesn't this prove to you that this isn't a scam? It would have to be the worst scam in the world if they sent victims any of their money back haha

Yes that is a fair comment - I received 4 ETH back from TraDove. When they advised me they will refund within a few hours I told them to send me back 4 as I still wanted to be invested in the project after hearing they WOULD refund me. So TraDove did as I instructed and sent me 4 ETH back and I still have 3 ETH invested in TraDove. I am going to be investing more into TraDove once I can access my wallet.

Ugh...I apologise for the confusion, but it already being a lengthy explanation as above, I figured this a relatively unimportant detail.

If you have any questions for me superflux please just ask me. Don't just take the stance that I am lying to you - if you have concerns just ask me directly!

may i ask you why are you lying ? you sent 7 ethereum to tradoves ethereum address. Ok, you said you got fully refunded (4 eth out of 7 isn't fully refunded) but u didn't go back as you said you do. I almost believed you but the evidence shows otherwise.
Edit: the official tradove address is 0x90B12787fa2067ccb46f017f70C07529A562C6C9 . Only 1 payment was done to that address from your address.
His eth address is this: 0x633B73A3d7d1468B1DEB79859cB37c5318F15b1b

Hi everyone,

Just so everyone does not think this is a scam - here is my 4 ETH refunded back to me by TraDove.

https://imgur.com/a/IQUQu

I have reinvested this back into TraDove now as they have given me the confidence this is not a scam...

I came to this conclusion by thinking what are the green flags and what are the red flags?

The only red flag to most people is the fact that there was one 4chan member stating this was a scam due to the fact the ICO funds were immediately being moved to hundreds of different wallets.

The reason is fairly simple - the ICO funds (as confirmed when emailing Kent) have been moved onto CoinBase after they hit the TraDove accounts. Doing this is much more secure than storing the funds of an ICO in a single wallet. CoinBase spreads large amounts of funds into multiple wallets - however this is done in the backend of CoinBase - it is a blockchain security feature to spread risk, so if one wallet is compromised, the loss is minimal. Remember when Bittrex was hacked? This is because Bittrex did not do this - they had far too many funds stored in a single wallet point containing millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. So, this is why you are seeing funds moved from the TraDove ICO wallets into CoinBase and then CoinBase moving them in the backend into Binance wallets.

The only other red flag I can see raised by people is the poor grammatical skills on parts of the ICO website - please remember that the CEO of TraDove is Chinese and sometimes there may be slight spelling errors due to English being a second language - hardly a red flag in my view but I can see how others may interpret that.

Now if anyone has any other issues they would like to bring up I am more than happy to try and get answers for you or even answer them myself.

Finally, I am not in any way affiliated with TraDove, but I went through the entire range of emotions by investing, asking for a refund when I panicked and now am 100% back on board.

Thanks everyone

I would like to remind everyone watching this thread that anyone can register a new account and create a thread on this forum pretending to be a representative of a company or ico. That may, or may not be the case here.

I've also invested in this ico, i duno what to think about it now? any1 here have proof or anything to make me feel more confident about this project...also its doesnt help when the staff of tradove avoid basic questions or just plain ban people on their telegram..its not a good look

they do not only have  your money they also have your ID which is more concerning in the hands of the wrong people..

any info or way to build investor confidence please..

This question has been asked multiple times on Telegram group, but so far no answer.

I repeat the question here: how do you know if a ETH transaction actually belongs to me ? Because anyone can use etherscanner to scan Ether address of Tradove and get all transactions from everyone there. I can just screenshot a random transaction and claim it's mine.

Now i don't think Tradove is a scam, but this really is beyond my knowledge.

Still no refund. Please can someone from the team directly contact me? I would like my Ethereum returned immediately.

Do you know why the funds have been moved to CoinBase? Because it is much more secure than storing the funds of an ICO in a single wallet. CoinBase spreads large amounts of funds into multiple wallets - however this is done in the backend of CoinBase - it is a blockchain security feature to spread risk, so if one wallet is compromised, the loss is minimal.

This is why you are seeing funds moved from the ICO wallets into CoinBase and then potentially into Binance wallets.

Jeez chill out and educate yourself on back-end blockchain security.

Sorry to hear that you feel this way. Refunds are being processed, but all transactions are taking time due to the shear volume.

CEO Kent Yan will be live on YouTube for an interview with the YouTuber "TheGobOne" on the 12th. I encourage you to attend:

Set reminder here ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINMEkW77VM

Regards,

Kristen
TraDove Admin

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Yes this is a scam. I already been scammed after i sent the funds and instead of approving after i uploaded the evidence, they delelted my payment from the history tab. What a shame.

"TraDove raised $4Mill investments from the investors listed and have been in business for 5 years. We have papers to show it. We did not go to VCs because we did not want them to take control."

Kent Yan
TraDove CEO


White paper: https://bbcoin.tradove.com/doc/TraDove%20Global%20B2B%20Token%20Offering%20White%20Paper.pdf