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Topic: Treat developers better - XHC THREAD MOVED - page 33. (Read 113221 times)

sr. member
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Just checking in to let everyone know how the development progress in going. We have hired a second programmer that will start on July 9th. This should help with the process and plenty of new features will be built in. We are looking forward to finishing the project and giving the community a coin that will be solid and built for the community. Smiley
Launch on july 9th or he just start working on july 9th.
hero member
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We need some features about marketing

Agreed... but that is step #2... We are still at step #1 (Make the coin).

The old wallet does not even work on Windows-XP 32-bit. (The one in the link.)

I assume that was part of the reason the old dev quit. Besides not actually knowing how to program at all, and being a thief.
sr. member
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We need some features about marketing
hero member
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Low price, no volume, dead. I am bought Minerals.

Good luck with that. Get them while they are high!

Yea, I really need to teach more people how to trade.

TIP #1: Buy low
TIP #2: Don't bash the ones buying the coins you are holding, you limit it from going up and limit others from seeing the value you desire.
TIP #3: Sell high

P.S. Hype = sure-fire failure, unless the hype is generated by a whale, trying to make you believe the hype is not hype, because that's what whales do. Hype alone, is just hype, and cause value to drop when not backed by a whale, who pumps to dump. Thus AIRDROP. (Why anyone believed that giving away free coins would make the price rise, is beyond belief. If you tell me that you are giving away half a million coins for free, the first thing I do is pull all my buy orders, to buy all your freely obtained coins, for a penny or two, since that is all those coins are worth. They are not worth the price of the coins that others had to PAY for, to obtain. The price stays low until all those free coins are gone, and have had value added to them, by way of purchasing debt, which takes a long time, the more you "give away free".)


No-one says...

"Hey I got 1000 coins free... lets go buy 10 more for $100 dollars!... no wait, it went up, lets pay $200 for 10 coins now... no $300... Yay, I'm getting richer! I got 1010 coins now, and it only cost me $300."
sr. member
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Dropping all time... im so tired...
sr. member
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Just checking in to let everyone know how the development progress in going. We have hired a second programmer that will start on July 9th. This should help with the process and plenty of new features will be built in. We are looking forward to finishing the project and giving the community a coin that will be solid and built for the community. Smiley

Thanks, I bought a lot from those silly dumpers these days Cheesy
legendary
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Just checking in to let everyone know how the development progress in going. We have hired a second programmer that will start on July 9th. This should help with the process and plenty of new features will be built in. We are looking forward to finishing the project and giving the community a coin that will be solid and built for the community. Smiley

Great, thanks for the update. Bought some coins today at 150 sat Smiley
legendary
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Just checking in to let everyone know how the development progress in going. We have hired a second programmer that will start on July 9th. This should help with the process and plenty of new features will be built in. We are looking forward to finishing the project and giving the community a coin that will be solid and built for the community. Smiley


Good looking brother:-)
newbie
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This sign is very nice  Grin Grin Grin
member
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Original devs ended three weeks ago. They sold coins at dumped prices. It was clear that the devs fails Anonymity Airdrop. Prices have fallen  Shocked
hero member
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Honorcoin entice people to Anonymity Airdrop, which was but a scam. Therefore the value was also initially higher.

Free coins had NOTHING to do with why the price was high. You wouldn't pay MORE, knowing that the dev was going to give away your value, (thus degrade value)...

If the air-drop happened, it would have had the same effect as what happened... The dev dumped a bunch of free coins. The only difference was, he got the value, not you.

That would not have brought anyone here, except someone looking for a hand-out. When was the last time a bum, looking for handouts, came and contributed to your value after you gave him some. This is not a charity organization. It is not our job (mine or the current devs), to see that you are comfortable, or to invite more poor people here, who will just complain that the free coins we gave them have no value because half the people we gave the coins to, dumped them before they could dump them.

You are confusing HONOR with CHARITY. One has nothing to do with the other. Though being charitable may be honorable, charity is not honor.

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Charity: The practice of charity means the voluntary giving of help to those in need.

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Honor: An abstract concept entailing a perceived quality of worthiness and respectability that affects both the social standing and the self-evaluation of an individual or corporate body such as a family, school, regiment or nation.

You are neither charitable, if you are crying about "what you get", as charity is selfless not selfish, nor are you honorable, as you are bashing your own holdings worthiness and don't respect shit, and are doing nothing but asking for more free stuff. Stuff you will obviously just dump.
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ISAWHIM is trying, but so far it is nowhere to be seen.
Over a week no plan when the original term fell.
Market unfortunately appreciated inactivity.
legendary
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member
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The value depends primarily on the interests of the people. There are many coins that should have its value, but few of them really stand out. It depends whether the coin brings some interesting innovation compared to other coins.

Honorcoin entice people to Anonymity Airdrop, which was but a scam. Therefore the value was also initially higher.

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We have decided to call this event the Anonymity Airdrop since this software release will be a major change for cryptocurrencies in general. From this moment, every altcoin will have an anonymity solution. Close-source solutions like Darksend will no longer have the monopoly in Anonymity, and much likely become obsolete, for innovation is better in open source systems.
hero member
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jarvis please give us a plan. When will be the relaunch?

It's already so many days passed, now we need plan waiting for so long.

If waiting for a week is "so long", then you are in the wrong field my friend. How long have you waited for BTC to rise? How long are you still waiting for LTC to rise?

We have a plan, now we are waiting, just like you, for others to do what they have to do, to accept the wallet. It has been announced, and repeated several times. Go outside, do some yard-work, or something productive, since you are doing nothing productive here yourself. If you spend all day watching the clock, it takes longer for time to pass. What is your hurry? Didn't you INVEST? Oh, no, I guess not, since you seem to think that a few days is a long time, because you obviously want to get out, and take our investment. Take what you are being offered, or invest in the actual development. You didn't invest in the development, you invested in yourself, and you are not turning your investment into anything of value.

You want to invest in accelerating the development, there is a donation address for you to use. You want to invest in some of this "value" (discount coins), then buy some more. You want to invest directly, then program a wallet and get it submitted to the exchanges for review. If you can't do any of that, then you have no choice but to wait. Silence is golden. You want to keep hurting your investment, then feel free to give your coins away to someone doing something to help.

Since you obviously have no interest in adding value, it is safe to assume you are trying to make it lower. Have fun with that. If you are holding, you are screwing yourself. If you are trying to lower it, to buy, you are still screwing yourself. If you are not doing one of those things, then you are just trying to screw us, and you are failing miserably at it.
hero member
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The coin hit the active exchange on June 6th 23:00. BTC value at the time, $640/BTC. Real-average exchange rate: 0.00000550 BTC/XHC.

Current BTC value: $655/BTC. Current real-average "selling" value of XHC on the exchange for the last 2 weeks: 0.00000380 BTC/XHC. (So part of this drop was the natural balance in USD value. Just as part of the value from the spike, was due to BTC falling, which made them have to ask for more BTC to get the same USD value.)

The highs were a pump, and not the "real value". However, they did bring the "value" (The real-average value), up to 0.00001200 BTC/XHC. (You should NEVER expect that you can sell your coins for the pumped price, which was a "sacrifice", to make the sale of 0.00002400 BTC/XHC look like a "deal". Just as you should never expect that the lowest low, where one or two coins are being sold, is "your value", or the value of all coins. That is why market-cap is a horrible assessment of value. Because the highs and lows are not the coins value, which is what they portray and assume.)

This would have been higher if the original dev didn't rob us of our value. However, that is over now, and we have moved-on. With prices this low, it is "safe" to buy, at the least, up to 0.00001200 BTC/XHC, because that is where the majority have added "value" up to. This includes the miners who spent a lot less in electricity, producing the coins.

Once mining has started, this average will rise to nearly twice that, easily, bringing the "value", a lot closer to the pumps average of around 0.00002400 BTC/XHC. The AVERAGE, not counting for obvious pump-levels that could easily double that.

The wallet, being POW enabled again, should bring-in more miners to invest. The multipool will bring-in more miners to invest. The rest of the value will eventually come in time. The longer we stay mining, the more exposure we get from the mining-value pages. Without that, there is only exposure from the exchanges and the horrible market-cap pages which, are, for all essence, a poor representation of value, at best. Value is measured at the average price where the average volume has been spent. That is why we have no problems buying coins on these lows. That is why they buy millions of BTC at $350/BTC to $680/BTC, and higher now.
hero member
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jarvis please give us a plan. When will be the relaunch?

It's already so many days passed, now we need plan waiting for so long.
sr. member
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public pdf  Smiley
hero member
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So what format should I setup my whitepaper in?

PDF, TXT or should I just make a fancy HTML setup?

Should I claim some sort of title to the document, and make it public, or make it exclusive to just XHC, until it some of the things can be integrated into the coin? (Though, this kind of stuff should be reviewed and voted-on, before implementation. Even if only to get more fine-tuned starting values and parameters that the majority can agree with.)

Since the coin/wallet is the focus at the moment, that is the focus of this whitepaper. The other one I am working-on, is related to the multipool, which is obviously semi-dependent on the existence of a wallet that can be mined to, initially. (Semi-dependent, because a wallet isn't actually needed if the coins are on the exchange. However, since POS is part of the wallet, and POW is being reinstated, it does have that tie to the wallet desire.)

P.S. The publication will be copyrighted, though with generous rights expressed. I don't mind open-source, but I do not like when people don't give credit where credit is due. Already had that issue with DogeCoin and various other coins that take others ideas as their own, take credit for the ideas, and then screw it up, then point the finger at the other person when they screwed it up. Instead of using the idea, the way it was intended, developed with the contributor, and giving them credit where it was due. (If only so they continue to contribute. xD)
hero member
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You obviously have no idea how long it takes an actual coin program to be made. Not just have a value changed from someone-else's work, that took them weeks to months to make. So, please, unless you want to contribute something, go back to shutting the fuck up.

It really doesn't bother others when you quit. Honestly, it doesn't. We reap the rewards while you accept the loss. We, on the other hand, who have not accepted the loss, have lost nothing.

Devs don't make value, they make programs. You make it valuable. Thus, you have made your holdings invaluable. Thank yourself for doing nothing, and getting nothing in return.

You have done nothing to develop the coin, and it is only right that you get nothing for your lack of effort to support it. You are obviously here only because you were convinced you could take value from the coin. Why would we ever sympathize for you. All you do is talk about wanting the price higher so you can cash-out, on money people are thinking about investing. You are the reason you don't have anyone buying your coins. I agree with the rest, you are a moron who doesn't know what support is, and doesn't apparently understand how trades and value or coins work.

The devs didn't make BTC rise, or LTC fall. Why would you believe that is the duty of the programmer making the transaction device? That is like blaming the exchange or your bank, for your own dollar value not rising. You know what makes your dollar valuable... What you do with it, or what YOU convince others it is worth, which is based off what YOU put into earning it. At the moment, you have done nothing to earn it, are convincing the people you want to sell it to that it has no value to you, and are doing nothing for it. Thus... You lose.

Me, I have purchased over a million of these coins, spending over $3000 USD, in purchased BTC. Giving those who wanted to quit, something for the prices they were offering. I have no doubt that I will see 10x returns here, just as I will see 10x returns from BTC this hike. Makes a nice total of 100x returns, or 1000% when compounded together, from my initial investment. I really don't want a noob who cranks-out copy-paste coins to be in control of my value. That is why I trust the direction Jarvis is headed.

P.S. I buy a lot of coins on the floor, after they fall 90%, they usually rise back up at-least 50% to 150% from the floor, after people like you have all left. That's what we do. That's what you do. That's why coins exist in the first place. Thanks for doing your part. Now we can do ours, without you bothering us.

P.P.S. I am not a developer/programmer (I am, I just don't make coins). I am the guy who is going to make these remaining users/holders/supporters money. I'll be the one buying the other coins you abandon, and do nothing for also. Until I have your last dime, and have distributed it to the holders of XHC. Because I roll like that.
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