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Quote from: rdbase on October 26, 2024, 03:20:19 AM

Joe Rogan had Trump on his the JRE podcast yesterday while he was there for a rally.
Watched the first 10 minutes or so as he was mostly talking about his experience being in the White House from his previous presidency.
Was hoping for some hard hitting questions from the very start since Joe Rogan is conservative from what was said from the beginning.
Will continue with the rest as the election date draws nearer as I didn't have much time to watch it all due to it being nearly a three hour interview.

I wouldn't say that it would change much, however, it's interesting to see how what would Trump say.
Because recently, as I saw, his main counter does say something that plummets his ratings down Grin

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Anyone who is into bitcoin has noticed the rally in the past 48 hours and so has the mass media who are covering the elections. Which is plastered all over the news everyday no matter what country you are from.

So one major media outlet has noticed the correlation in the numbers and the price of bitcoin jumping up in price due to the betting odds from a site for who they predict will more likely win the election in a week from now.
They question whether these betting odds shown is causing the rise of bitcoin.

Here is that video where they ask this in the first minute:
This is a very bullish setup for bitcoin into the election, says VanEck's Matthew Sigel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJNIMh3sMA

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Joe Rogan had Trump on his the JRE podcast yesterday while he was there for a rally.
Watched the first 10 minutes or so as he was mostly talking about his experience being in the White House from his previous presidency.
Was hoping for some hard hitting questions from the very start since Joe Rogan is conservative from what was said from the beginning.
Will continue with the rest as the election date draws nearer as I didn't have much time to watch it all due to it being nearly a three hour interview.

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Quote from: dificanovi on September 19, 2024, 03:40:20 PM

I am sure Trump will do all that, Trump will not deny his intention to support Bitcoin. Trump will definitely convey all his inspirations that will support Bitcoin, this could be a more mature thought to immediately buy Bitcoin because Trump is very supportive of Bitcoin. If Trump is elected President of America then during Trump's term as President of America the price of bitcoin will definitely rise very fantastically.

Trump is serious about supporting bitcoin and at first I was thinking it was all a strategy to win even if it's true that it's a strategy, I don't think trump will want to break the promises he has made concerning bitcoin and since its administration is going to make the whole space free for bitcoiners to operate in, the bitcoin space have been up tight and it's not allowing bitcoiners to feel free even in term of investment so we just have to cool down and see what trump will do when he eventually wins.

And it is also a good strategy when you buy and keep the moment trump win theirs going to be a shape in the market because it will affect the price of bitcoin because a lot of people are expecting something positive when he wins and his definitely going to get a lot of supporters from bitcoiners they always have their investment in mind and I don't even blame them. This is their source of income so they will go with any form of support they will get so buy and keep.

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Trump will be on the JRE podcast later this week and be responding to viewers questions as Harris can not confirm if she will ever appear on Joe Rogan's show:

source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpastis/2024/10/22/trump-will-appear-on-joe-rogans-podcast-after-days-of-speculation-as-harris-talk-not-confirmed

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Quote from: ml9999 on October 06, 2024, 10:15:20 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on July 16, 2024, 10:55:03 PM

It seems then that Trump's pro-Bitcoin turn is in earnest. In general I don't trust politicians, and if it's on the campaign trail even less but Trump would be neither the first nor will he be the last to change his stance on Bitcoin (remember Saylor, for example)

While not impossible, Trump most likely doesn't actually support or care much about bitcoin. He knows it's an easy way to earn the support of a group of voters. Also, if he was actually a bitcoiner, he wouldn't be making his own crypto project (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/crypto/trump-crypto-event-world-liberty-financial-rcna171407), instead he would be all in on bitcoin. That doesn't mean he won't support bitcoin and crypto, but we shouldn't be too hopeful about it.

Just as Reid had mentioned in his response back to you just above this post:
It does not matter!
Bitcoin doesn't care who is president so why should they? It all comes down to how the economy responds who becomes the actual president of the United States.
And in the most recent interviews and actions of both the candidates it has been Harris who is bad for bitcoin with trying to make it about race if you had been following the Democratic party's response on their stance on bitcoin.

Quote from: mindrust on October 08, 2024, 11:12:53 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZFV71IiX8w

"Everytime kamala laughs, a demon gets its wings." —some youtube commentor

Watch it, the girl in the video replicates her manners almost exactly. Well, maybe her impersonation is a bit smarter than the real one lol.

Harris has a very bad scar on how she actually came into uprising of the ranks to becoming vice president:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph1z7konIk4&t=485s

Back to the main subject this thread is based on: Bitcoin and Trump's political party
Did you know when Trump's first assassination attempt was happening, bitcoin was approximately at $58,000 July 14th.
After that, and he survived, it had been rising ever since to where it is now over $9,000 more.

So you tell me if Trump being elected is bad for bitcoin?

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Quote from: ml9999 on October 06, 2024, 10:15:20 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on July 16, 2024, 10:55:03 PM

It seems then that Trump's pro-Bitcoin turn is in earnest. In general I don't trust politicians, and if it's on the campaign trail even less but Trump would be neither the first nor will he be the last to change his stance on Bitcoin (remember Saylor, for example)

While not impossible, Trump most likely doesn't actually support or care much about bitcoin. He knows it's an easy way to earn the support of a group of voters. Also, if he was actually a bitcoiner, he wouldn't be making his own crypto project (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/crypto/trump-crypto-event-world-liberty-financial-rcna171407), instead he would be all in on bitcoin. That doesn't mean he won't support bitcoin and crypto, but we shouldn't be too hopeful about it.

Does it matter? Every time his mouth opens and it says Bitcoin or Ulbricht, it means something. Every Bitcoin supporter knows that. When I hear Bitcoin in the movies, I get goosebumps. When I hear it on the news, I get goosebumps too. Bitcoin is so questionable in the past that it won't even be recognized even if the news is big about it.

It's rare to hear its name because I know that the government is trying so hard to avoid it from being mentioned and here is Trump telling all the future that he wants with Bitcoin. Should we believe it? It doesn't matter as long as it's helping Bitcoin get some free ads and higher value because of what he said.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZFV71IiX8w

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Watch it, the girl in the video replicates her manners almost exactly. Well, maybe her impersonation is a bit smarter than the real one lol.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 06, 2024, 01:33:24 PM

^^
No it is the presidential candidate who he picked as a vice president who is the bitcoiner so he is the one who actually should care about how it will be portrayed going into this election in the coming month.

I think this opportunity must be taken because both candidates also want votes and support from the Crypto community for the upcoming November election. I think Trump is smart and selective in choosing Vance as his running mate and Vance is also a strong man in the Senate Banking Committee if we look at his career debut. I think this is very relevant as you said that the one who really understands the crypto ecosystem and will play an important role later if Trump is elected is JD Vance.

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^^
No it is the presidential candidate who he picked as a vice president who is the bitcoiner so he is the one who actually should care about how it will be portrayed going into this election in the coming month.

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Quote from: Poker Player on July 16, 2024, 10:55:03 PM

It seems then that Trump's pro-Bitcoin turn is in earnest. In general I don't trust politicians, and if it's on the campaign trail even less but Trump would be neither the first nor will he be the last to change his stance on Bitcoin (remember Saylor, for example)

While not impossible, Trump most likely doesn't actually support or care much about bitcoin. He knows it's an easy way to earn the support of a group of voters. Also, if he was actually a bitcoiner, he wouldn't be making his own crypto project (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/crypto/trump-crypto-event-world-liberty-financial-rcna171407), instead he would be all in on bitcoin. That doesn't mean he won't support bitcoin and crypto, but we shouldn't be too hopeful about it.

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Quote from: Catenaccio on October 02, 2024, 03:35:35 AM

Quote from: rdbase on October 02, 2024, 03:25:53 AM

This candidate for Vice President had his first debate last night with Walz the democratic party Vice president elect.

Of course no mention of bitcoin because the monitors were the ones with the questions and they never ask anything inregards to it.
J.D Vance definitely does hold bitcoin so you know he endorses it's use in society and I do not think it crosses Walz's mind at all.

Who won the debate in your opinion?

In the debate between two Vice President Nominees, moderators of the debate again tried to fact-check a nominee from Republic Party and it's shameful that they biased their moderation roles like this. JD Vance do an inverse fact-check on moderators and he won it too.

In my opinion, JD Vance won the debate very convincingly. Tim Walz was crushed completely by JD Vance in this debate.

Vance of course did! You could see Walz scrambling at straws when asked about why he was found out not being at Tiananmen Square when stating they were there during that time. He had no clear answer but was avoiding to admit they were not there at that certain time.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/01/politics/tim-walz-china-tiananmen-square/index.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-says-dates-wrong-admits-he-didnt-travel-to-china-until-august-1989

So it was a clear lie.
You can see it from this shot of J.D during the debate that he got him! Grin

https://x.com/ZssBecker/status/1841383396137648546

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Quote from: rdbase on October 02, 2024, 03:25:53 AM

True, but one can't deny it is a subject that can not be ignored now in this upcoming election.
The world is seeing this more than ever for the first time on a political scale.

This candidate for Vice President had his first debate last night with Walz the democratic party Vice president elect.

Of course no mention of bitcoin because the monitors were the ones with the questions and they never ask anything inregards to it.
J.D Vance definitely does hold bitcoin so you know he endorses it's use in society and I do not think it crosses Walz's mind at all.

Oh yeah, I missed this debate. Thanks for the update, I guess I am just going to look for the replay.

This is a good read guys. Some summary of what Presidential candidate Donald Trump and explanation.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidbirch/2024/10/02/why-donald-trumps-plan-for-a-bitcoin-hoard-may-not-sway-us-voters/
Why Donald Trump’s Plan For A Bitcoin Hoard May Not Sway U.S. Voters

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While presidential candidate Kamal Harris has been quiet on the topic, one of the proposals that former president Donald Trump has put forward is some kind of strategic bitcoin reserve. Will this swing U.S. voters in the November election?

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My view is therefore that bitcoin holdings are not a reserve but might more properly be labelled as stash, and it is fair to observe that economists consider a bitcoin stash of little value to taxpayers but of great value to the crypto “whales" who hold most of it. Given that the cryptocurrency market is manipulated by those whales, who are able to move relatively large volumes almost at will with zero overview by regulators, it is no surprise that their sentiment is for the stash and against regulation.

I don't know if I can agree with this. Labelled as "Stash" not a reserve. Because there's no usage. Well, there will always be the pessimistic side when it comes to the Bitcoin technology but this is an old traditional way of thinking about usage and everything. It's a different era now, kids are buying Bitcoin, teens have cryptocurrencies in their wallets, other countries are trying to adopt the technology and so forth. No usage seems to be unlikely to happen. They are forgetting it's a currency. Sure, you cannot eat it or you cannot run a car with it, but you can buy food using it or buy gas to run it.

Gold also has no use in the past. They only use it to trade for food. Currency.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 02, 2024, 03:25:53 AM

This candidate for Vice President had his first debate last night with Walz the democratic party Vice president elect.

Of course no mention of bitcoin because the monitors were the ones with the questions and they never ask anything inregards to it.
J.D Vance definitely does hold bitcoin so you know he endorses it's use in society and I do not think it crosses Walz's mind at all.

Who won the debate in your opinion?

In the debate between two Vice President Nominees, moderators of the debate again tried to fact-check a nominee from Republic Party and it's shameful that they biased their moderation roles like this. JD Vance do an inverse fact-check on moderators and he won it too.

In my opinion, JD Vance won the debate very convincingly. Tim Walz was crushed completely by JD Vance in this debate.

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True, but one can't deny it is a subject that can not be ignored now in this upcoming election.
The world is seeing this more than ever for the first time on a political scale.

This candidate for Vice President had his first debate last night with Walz the democratic party Vice president elect.

Of course no mention of bitcoin because the monitors were the ones with the questions and they never ask anything inregards to it.
J.D Vance definitely does hold bitcoin so you know he endorses it's use in society and I do not think it crosses Walz's mind at all.

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Quote from: rdbase on October 01, 2024, 07:00:45 AM

Several weeks ago there was a second assassination attempt on Trump while he was playing golf at his West Palm Beach course when the incident occured.
Many had connected this to the dump in bitcoin when it happened.
The price of bitcoin was $60,313 and dropped 3% to $56,827 when the news was announced.
https://coinpedia.org/news/second-assassination-attempt-on-trump-causes-bitcoin-to-drop

Now imagine how much it would drop if he lost this election next month.

I heard about this.
Man accused of second attempted Trump assassination pleads not guilty
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/30/politics/ryan-wesley-routh-trump-assassination-attempt-plea/index.html

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West Palm Beach, Florida
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The man who prosecutors say stalked Donald Trump in Florida over the course of a month before setting up what they called a “sniper’s nest” on the fence boarding the former president’s West Palm Beach golf course has pleaded not guilty to attempting to assassinate a major presidential candidate.

Second Assassination Attempt Barely Moves Trump's Polymarket Odds
https://www.coindesk.com/news-analysis/2024/09/16/second-assassination-attempt-barely-moves-trumps-polymarket-odds/#:~:text=Donald%20Trump%20survived%20an%20apparent%20second%20assassination%20attempt%20over%20the

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Trump’s odds actually went down in the hours after the incident, and as of midmorning Monday in New York, he was trailing Democratic nominee Kamala Harris by 49-50.
To be fair to the Economist, the first assassination attempt, when a shot was fired and grazed Trump's ear, boosted his odds significantly – though that was when he was still running against the senescent incumbent, Joe Biden.

It's not like they are using the assassination to boost his polls. That's assassination, he might die and that's the end of it which is a sad thing to happen.
Yeah, they are connecting everything to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies because both presidential candidate have different takes about it. But, I don't believe it's the only reason on why Bitcoin went down, there's so many things to consider on why it could happen.

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Several weeks ago there was a second assassination attempt on Trump while he was playing golf at his West Palm Beach course when the incident occured.
Many had connected this to the dump in bitcoin when it happened.
The price of bitcoin was $60,313 and dropped 3% to $56,827 when the news was announced.
https://coinpedia.org/news/second-assassination-attempt-on-trump-causes-bitcoin-to-drop

Now imagine how much it would drop if he lost this election next month.

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This was the bar in New York which had the first Presidential BTC transaction done!

https://x.com/PubKey_NYC/status/1836510708634390680

September 18th: "Donald Trump bought almost $1,000 worth of burgers and drinks in #Bitcoin yesterday."
source: Bitcoin Magazine - https://x.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1836873177189761477/status/1837125878268010841

https://x.com/PubKey_NYC/status/1837125878268010841

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Quote from: dificanovi on September 19, 2024, 03:40:20 PM

I am sure Trump will do all that, Trump will not deny his intention to support Bitcoin. Trump will definitely convey all his inspirations that will support Bitcoin, this could be a more mature thought to immediately buy Bitcoin because Trump is very supportive of Bitcoin. If Trump is elected President of America then during Trump's term as President of America the price of bitcoin will definitely rise very fantastically.

I admire the way Donald Trump is going about the adoption of Bitcoin and how that will influence the crypto community in its awareness and interest to participate in the government activities and policies. I am pretty sure that the adoption rate will also see some level of increase when Trump comes into power. Kamala Harris seems to be more reserved about the cryptocurrencies and discussions around it.

This also makes it difficult for us to have a trust in her relationship with the crypto community. We know how huge the crypto platforms will influence the economy of the country if properly regulated and how heavy taxes can be generated from the crypto platforms, so when we talk about the essence and importance of having the cryptocurrencies, the benefits cannot be overemphasized.

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