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July 12, 2022, 07:56:28 AM
I think it was a good departure for Fenerbahçe club. Especially the fans had great expectations from Mesut Özil. Mesut Özil drew a very bad line towards the end of his career. Now I see the news that they agreed in principle in Başakşehir. Mesut Özil will not be a name to be remembered because of the choices he made at the end of his career. Arsenal days will not be remembered.
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July 12, 2022, 07:47:07 AM
Mesut Özil has been a complete fiasco. When the news first broke, all Fenerbahçe fans were absolutely thrilled. I didn't think he would perform at his age, and he did. He was a footballer for many months. He couldn't improve physically. This resulted in him not getting much playing time in the club. He is a footballer with a solid career but Fenerbahçe is not a club where you can earn money by lying down.
I always told this to my friend who is Fenerbahçe fan. Mesut Özil came to Fenerbahçe just to leech money and lay down. Just like many players do nowadays. Türkiye is seen as a place to pause your career and enjoy İstanbul etc. Mesut Özil won't be succesful in Başakşehir and I am sure he will go to Arabic leagues later and gonna be totally forgotten. What a shame he wasted his career so early in my opinion. Stupid Mesut.
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July 12, 2022, 07:37:41 AM
Mesut Özil has been a complete fiasco. When the news first broke, all Fenerbahçe fans were absolutely thrilled. I didn't think he would perform at his age, and he did. He was a footballer for many months. He couldn't improve physically. This resulted in him not getting much playing time in the club. He is a footballer with a solid career but Fenerbahçe is not a club where you can earn money by lying down.
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July 12, 2022, 07:05:23 AM
I am bit surprised to see Galatasaray sold Marcao. Transfermarkt says it was 12 billion euro deal. Marcao was not bad player although he had some bad matches which resulted in him losing popularity. According to rumors Galatasaray is planning to fill his spot with Duplexe Tchamba, pretty young defender. I never watched him personally. But I think he can find a chance to shine in Galatasaray defence line next season. He can compete with Abdülkerim Bardakçı.

Marcao was a good football player, but we cannot say that he played very well in Galatasaray. In fact, it had much greater potential.
He will probably go to Sevilla, I'm sure he will play better there.
Galatasaray squad hasn't been very good for 2 years, so good players couldn't show their performances fully and it seemed like they were unsuccessful
Yeah I agree with this argument. Galatasaray management was bad for years. They literally wasted many talented players with this underperforming team. I wish things could be different. Marcao, I always thought was Champions League level defender. But sometimes his buddies in defence were so bad that he was not very well motivated. So I think Galatasaray didn't do something wrong. He may show his potential in Europe.
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July 12, 2022, 07:05:16 AM
Mesut Özil had come to Fenerbahçe to sleep. His career actually ended long ago. He earned good money from Fenerbahçe and left. He gave nothing in return. The fans couldn't see a proper performance. It was a big disappointment.
The current rumor is that his new place will be Başakşehir, if this news is true, I will laugh a lot. I think he could have had such a bad career planning. Instead of making money and playing in good clubs, he chooses only money at the end of his career. He won't be remembered very well when he quits football.
Same happened to GS recently with Falcao as well, turkish teams needs to fix this and start to look for players that are hungry to prove themselves and not get players that already proved themselves and have nothing else to prove. If you get Mesut Ozil when he is 33 years old and haven't played meaningful minutes for many years, then you are agreeing that you are getting a player for just the name.

I do not know how much money they made from the jersey sales but considering the currency rate, probably not enough. They even requested fans to send SMS to make the team some money to get Mesut. Just get some 22 year old kid in championship or some second division of a big league, trying to prove himself and use turkish teams as a stepping stone, that kid will play with 100% and hope that some big european club will notice him. That's the path you should be taking.

Mesut Ozil did not come to Fenerbahce thinking about football. As Fenerbahce president Ali Koc said, if Mesut doesn't put his commercial deals aside, we may have problems. As a matter of fact, it happened. He did not contribute much in the matches he entered the game and always remained weak physically. I love Mesut as a Fenerbahçe fan, but he could not contribute to the team as a football player. Now we need to recruit younger, more willing players instead of brand names. We spend a lot of unnecessary money.
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July 12, 2022, 12:04:42 AM
Mesut Özil had come to Fenerbahçe to sleep. His career actually ended long ago. He earned good money from Fenerbahçe and left. He gave nothing in return. The fans couldn't see a proper performance. It was a big disappointment.
The current rumor is that his new place will be Başakşehir, if this news is true, I will laugh a lot. I think he could have had such a bad career planning. Instead of making money and playing in good clubs, he chooses only money at the end of his career. He won't be remembered very well when he quits football.
Same happened to GS recently with Falcao as well, turkish teams needs to fix this and start to look for players that are hungry to prove themselves and not get players that already proved themselves and have nothing else to prove. If you get Mesut Ozil when he is 33 years old and haven't played meaningful minutes for many years, then you are agreeing that you are getting a player for just the name.

I do not know how much money they made from the jersey sales but considering the currency rate, probably not enough. They even requested fans to send SMS to make the team some money to get Mesut. Just get some 22 year old kid in championship or some second division of a big league, trying to prove himself and use turkish teams as a stepping stone, that kid will play with 100% and hope that some big european club will notice him. That's the path you should be taking.
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July 11, 2022, 02:53:41 PM
I am bit surprised to see Galatasaray sold Marcao. Transfermarkt says it was 12 billion euro deal. Marcao was not bad player although he had some bad matches which resulted in him losing popularity. According to rumors Galatasaray is planning to fill his spot with Duplexe Tchamba, pretty young defender. I never watched him personally. But I think he can find a chance to shine in Galatasaray defence line next season. He can compete with Abdülkerim Bardakçı.

Marcao is a very good player and he have great potential. I think 12 million euros is insufficient for a player like Marcao.

Also, two days ago, Galatasaray faced Sturm Graz. I liked the performance of Hamza Akman, Ali Turap Bülbül and Emin Bayram. These young players should be given a chance.
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July 11, 2022, 11:36:55 AM
Mesut Özil had come to Fenerbahçe to sleep. His career actually ended long ago. He earned good money from Fenerbahçe and left. He gave nothing in return. The fans couldn't see a proper performance. It was a big disappointment.
The current rumor is that his new place will be Başakşehir, if this news is true, I will laugh a lot. I think he could have had such a bad career planning. Instead of making money and playing in good clubs, he chooses only money at the end of his career. He won't be remembered very well when he quits football.
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July 11, 2022, 09:54:08 AM
Mesut Özil riddle in Fenerbahçe comes to an end. New coach Jorge Jesus also made negative statements about Mesut Özil. Fenerbahçe management had previously expressed in different ways that they wanted to send Mesut Özil out of the team. Now that Jorge Jesus has continued these rhetoric, Mesut Özil has no chance of playing in the new season. It is said that he may be transferred to Istanbul Başakşehir FK.
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July 10, 2022, 04:59:07 PM
It's nice to come from behind and win against Werder Bremen, it's good to watch the youngsters perform well, even if it was a friendly match. We have to see how well main players perform with this new tactic though. The names transferred so far have been spot-on, but there needs still improvements as substitutes for squad depth and important names for jersey competition.
The transfer of Rıdvan Yılmaz didn't finish, he doesn't go to Germany. Now Torino is interested again. If that happens, a new left-back will be needed. Also another player will be recruited for both wings. A second striker should also be taken. These transfers didn't reach the Austrian camp, but the transfers must be finished as soon as possible. Players who join squad late are not performing well during the season.
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July 10, 2022, 03:39:24 PM
The transfers are carried out by the wishes of Jorge Jesus himself. He is bringing players he liked and liked from his former teams to Fenerbahçe. He will build a system here. I am looking forward to his system and his first 11. Berisha and Samatta are likely to leave. If one or two more striker transfers are made, it's a done deal. I hope the transfers will be announced and completed as soon as possible. Last year it was too late.
That is usually a good thing. The "talk" in Turkish league has always been agents trying to push for their clients, and that usually ends with the money exchanging hands from the team to agents and that's a problem. Instead, we could have the manager making moves instead, he worked with some of them before, or at least saw him, and that is why there will be a big difference.

This way he would be able to talk with them and communicate with them a lot better and they would be able to play better together because they know each other and their system well enough. This is why I believe that this is going to have a better understanding and better results for the season.
I agree with you. That's the way it should be.
Otherwise you can't solve conflicts between players.Jorge Jesus is a really good manager. I think he will be successful at Fenerbahce. He will do the job only if one or two reinforcements are made.Especially a striker is a must. I think we have a bit of a problem in the striker position.If a good striker is bought in the coming days, good success will come.
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July 10, 2022, 03:04:09 PM
Hull City want Doğukan Sinik, who is Antalyaspor's promising youngster. He plays in left wing and number 10, I was following him since he was a wonderkid in FM. He would have a great step in his career if he transfers to Championship League at this age. As you know since Acun Ilıcalı bought the club they always target on Turkish players or players that play in Turkish league. Sometimes they make wrong moves but this could be a big hit. As if Doğukan show himself in lower league he might be transferred to Premier League. He should make good use of this opportunity.
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July 10, 2022, 02:43:54 PM
The transfers are carried out by the wishes of Jorge Jesus himself. He is bringing players he liked and liked from his former teams to Fenerbahçe. He will build a system here. I am looking forward to his system and his first 11. Berisha and Samatta are likely to leave. If one or two more striker transfers are made, it's a done deal. I hope the transfers will be announced and completed as soon as possible. Last year it was too late.
That is usually a good thing. The "talk" in Turkish league has always been agents trying to push for their clients, and that usually ends with the money exchanging hands from the team to agents and that's a problem. Instead, we could have the manager making moves instead, he worked with some of them before, or at least saw him, and that is why there will be a big difference.

This way he would be able to talk with them and communicate with them a lot better and they would be able to play better together because they know each other and their system well enough. This is why I believe that this is going to have a better understanding and better results for the season.
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July 10, 2022, 07:48:52 AM
Beşiktaş are interested in Daniel Amartey after the transfer of Romain Saiss on the defensive line; Domogoj Vida left the team because his contract had expired, Welinton's performance is not considered adequate by coach Valerin İsmael, He will most likely be dismissed from the team in the new season... Daniel Amartey was a regular substitute for Leicester City. If his transfer to Beşiktaş happens, I hope he can take the responsibility of being the first 11 player in Beşiktaş.

There is no problem in our midfield. Our forward line has also been strengthened with very good transfers this year. If we enrich our defense line with strong players, we can try to become champions this year.
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July 10, 2022, 06:10:58 AM
There are hot developments in Fenerbahce.Last year's favorites zajc and miguel crespo are likely to leave the team.Flamengo are close to signing willian arao.If Willian arao is coming, one or both of zajc or crespo will be parted ways.I didn't want either of them to go, especially Crespo who was a very good midfielder. Last year, he was one of the main factors why Fenerbahçe conceded fewer goals.Definitive statements will be made in the coming days.

Fenerbahçe are about to sign Willian Arao. They can make the official announcement at any moment. Miha Zajc may leave the team if Willian Arao transfers. Crespo is a more important player with his defensive features. But Miha Zajc may fall into the second or third choice position after the transfer of Willian Arao. Fenerbahçe are building a stronger team than last year. I think they are the strongest championship contender this year.

The transfers are carried out by the wishes of Jorge Jesus himself. He is bringing players he liked and liked from his former teams to Fenerbahçe. He will build a system here. I am looking forward to his system and his first 11. Berisha and Samatta are likely to leave. If one or two more striker transfers are made, it's a done deal. I hope the transfers will be announced and completed as soon as possible. Last year it was too late.
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July 10, 2022, 01:00:31 AM
What does everyone think of the whole 28 championship and 5 stars debate going on in Turkey? Sounds like it is a lawsuit type of situation and not a personal preference type of deal. Nobody outside of Turkey would give a damn about this for sure, each team could add up to 10 stars and nobody would care here.

But, shouldn't Fener go to court and get it confirmed instead of just saying "we said it, we believe this is what is true, and you just have to all accept it"? If everyone could do it, then it would be a chaos, there needs to be some sort of court hearing, and if they are found correct, then it would make a lot more sense. Otherwise stars mean nothing when you step outside of your own domestic league.

I think the discussion about the number of stars is not very necessary. I don't think that other teams, except Fenerbahçe, care too much.
It is not true that 1 star is given for every 5 championships, but it has been like this for many years, so I don't think it will change. Other leagues and Turkish league will not be the same in this regard Smiley
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July 09, 2022, 04:23:18 PM
What does everyone think of the whole 28 championship and 5 stars debate going on in Turkey? Sounds like it is a lawsuit type of situation and not a personal preference type of deal. Nobody outside of Turkey would give a damn about this for sure, each team could add up to 10 stars and nobody would care here.

But, shouldn't Fener go to court and get it confirmed instead of just saying "we said it, we believe this is what is true, and you just have to all accept it"? If everyone could do it, then it would be a chaos, there needs to be some sort of court hearing, and if they are found correct, then it would make a lot more sense. Otherwise stars mean nothing when you step outside of your own domestic league.

We don't care either. It affects bonus prize given by federation every year so Fenerbahçe is very enthusiastic about it but other than that it won't affect any team's prestige or something.
It used to be local leagues and there were no big league or tournament for whole country so let's say in same year there are multiple champions by region. That's why it's a tricky situation. Fenerbahçe want their İstanbul championships to count but what about Ankara, İzmir champions etc. they didn't play each other on a bigger stage. I don't think this can be solved easily.
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July 09, 2022, 04:16:45 PM
What does everyone think of the whole 28 championship and 5 stars debate going on in Turkey? Sounds like it is a lawsuit type of situation and not a personal preference type of deal. Nobody outside of Turkey would give a damn about this for sure, each team could add up to 10 stars and nobody would care here.

But, shouldn't Fener go to court and get it confirmed instead of just saying "we said it, we believe this is what is true, and you just have to all accept it"? If everyone could do it, then it would be a chaos, there needs to be some sort of court hearing, and if they are found correct, then it would make a lot more sense. Otherwise stars mean nothing when you step outside of your own domestic league.
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July 09, 2022, 01:30:21 PM
There are hot developments in Fenerbahce.Last year's favorites zajc and miguel crespo are likely to leave the team.Flamengo are close to signing willian arao.If Willian arao is coming, one or both of zajc or crespo will be parted ways.I didn't want either of them to go, especially Crespo who was a very good midfielder. Last year, he was one of the main factors why Fenerbahçe conceded fewer goals.Definitive statements will be made in the coming days.
I think arao will bring some competition which is a good thing i think if someone would leave it would be miguel crespo i think he was injured in the end of the season so the management would be cautious i think they will let him go and arao will be playing as a regular.
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July 09, 2022, 10:16:38 AM
I am bit surprised to see Galatasaray sold Marcao. Transfermarkt says it was 12 billion euro deal. Marcao was not bad player although he had some bad matches which resulted in him losing popularity. According to rumors Galatasaray is planning to fill his spot with Duplexe Tchamba, pretty young defender. I never watched him personally. But I think he can find a chance to shine in Galatasaray defence line next season. He can compete with Abdülkerim Bardakçı.

You mean million, not billion lol. I think that's a great transfer fee for Galatasaray. We know he was the best defender for them for a long time but they can find a good replacement. When a top La Liga team offer 12 million plus 3 million bonuses you don't have much choice to say no. Jérôme Boateng and Jason Denayer are in the list for replacement. Boateng is older now and far from his prime but Denayer would be a good fit. Idrissa Gueye is on the list for midfield. It looks like Galatasaray will spend the money coming from Marcao rather fast than saving some.
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