Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 35.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on February 19, 2023, 03:44:10 PM

Antalyaspor got Bertuğ Yıldırım on loan from Hatayspor until end of season. He was one of young prospects that may shine in future with more chance on pitch. Even if its temporary transfer he can be great sub striker to have at bench.

He has four goals in sixteen games in Hatayspor and he started nine of these games. Not the best striker you can imagine but still has potential. El Kaabi was the main goalscorer for Hatayspor.
I don't know how much playing time he will get in Antalyaspor. Haji Wright is still in the team, there is also Luiz Adriano. Sam Larsson, Admir Mehmedi and Houssam Ghacha are other forward players but they didn't contribute much. So basically Bertuğ could be a third option for Antalyaspor in striker position. In case Wright or Adriano is missing he can find some time. I'm still not convinced that this was a good loan opportunity for him.

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Antalyaspor got Bertuğ Yıldırım on loan from Hatayspor until end of season. He was one of young prospects that may shine in future with more chance on pitch. Even if its temporary transfer he can be great sub striker to have at bench. Kasımpaşa got 3 different players from Gaziantep (which won't play matches this season anymore). I feel like they are desperate to stay in league. Looks like Ümraniye and İstanbulspor will suffer a lot...

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Quote from: xzone on February 18, 2023, 04:35:43 AM

Unfortunately, the sad news came, Christian Atsu was declared dead. He had been trying to be reached for a long time after the terrible earthquake in Türkiye, but almost 2 weeks passed, it was almost certain that he would no longer survive. Today, his manager made a statement and said that Atsu was found now.
I don't know how the league will start back, it will be a difficult year for both players and us Sad

I saw this news today, I confess that it made me sad at the time, that's because days ago they kept saying that they had found him alive, and I can't imagine the pain that his family is feeling right now, before they had hope, but now with the confirmation hope is over, I think there is no way to cancel the league this season, but they could remote the league with only the teams that have good conditions to continue playing, and in the case of teams that do not have the conditions to continue playing, they could return to play next season

that is, all teams that were affected by this disgrace would not be relegated, they could return to the leagues they were already in, but this season there would be no teams that would be relegated, of course the number of teams would have to be increased, I read somewhere that that would be what the Turkish league wanted to do, but I confess that I can't find any more information about what they will actually do, it's strange that the news channels in Portuguese don't keep talking about news about the situation of the Turkish league

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Quote from: xzone on February 18, 2023, 04:35:43 AM

Unfortunately, the sad news came, Christian Atsu was declared dead. He had been trying to be reached for a long time after the terrible earthquake in Türkiye, but almost 2 weeks passed, it was almost certain that he would no longer survive. Today, his manager made a statement and said that Atsu was found now.
I don't know how the league will start back, it will be a difficult year for both players and us Sad

A club manager from Hatayspor had previously said that Christian Atsu was rescued from the rubble, but today we received some sad news. Unfortunately, we could not get a healthy and accurate news flow from the club managers while these sad events were taking place.

League matches will start in a week. It seems like a bit of an early date because we went through a lot of pain and no one is interested in football at the moment, but at the same time, we need to get back to normal as soon as possible. If the league matches return to normal, the income from the match tickets can be used to help the local people. Also, most loan players' contracts expire at the end of May. Further extension of the league may disrupt the planning of other teams.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 17, 2023, 12:17:04 PM

Josef de Souza left Beşiktaş. The player, who was talked about going to China, made a great contribution to the team. His contract will be expired at the end of the season. So he left a little earlier. They transferred Maxim, so there's no shortage in the squad. There's not much to expect from this season anyway.

Matches will continue from March 3. There were a few matches that were postponed, they were to be played a week earlier than March 3. So basically the league will start next week. I don't know who's going to watch matches, but we have to get through this period somehow.

I was expecting to him to leave at the end of season. His performance was generally ar*e anyways. (You get what I mean). Looks like other teams are just sharing better players of Gaziantep and Hatay between themselves. Well its normal as federation allowed it to happen for half a season. This is gonna be tough season for other teams from now on. Matches delayed a lot so fixtures will be so tight after beginning of March. Gonna be fun for football fans to watch their favourite team twice a week but its gonna be tiresome for players to follow that kind of schedule.

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Quote from: hakan2217 on February 18, 2023, 04:53:45 AM

The league and the world will never be the same again, and they should not be. Rest in peace.
As survivors, we need to distinguish between being a rival and hostility with what we have left, we need to change our perspective on sports and football, and we must always remember that life is too short to be an enemy.

Football fans in Turkey have worked hard to help the earthquake zone. In fact, it looks like there was a huge war between them. But in difficult times, everyone lends a helping hand to each other.

Quote from: hakan2217 on February 18, 2023, 04:53:45 AM

Everyone who followed the situation was guessing about it, but it's still sad to hear that.
So sad 90+7th min Atsu scored a great freekick goal, carried his team Hatayspor to victory, after hours that night earthquake happend.

I felt so sorry for Christian Atsu. There were several different reports about him in the press. Some reports were talking about him being rescued from under the rubble. But today we got some sad news about him. I don't know how we will watch the remaining matches this season. All the excitement of the league is over for me. I no longer care if Galatasaray are the champion or not.

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Everyone who followed the situation was guessing about it, but it's still sad to hear that.
So sad 90+7th min Atsu scored a great freekick goal, carried his team Hatayspor to victory, after hours that night earthquake happend.
The league and the world will never be the same again, and they should not be. Rest in peace.
As survivors, we need to distinguish between being a rival and hostility with what we have left, we need to change our perspective on sports and football, and we must always remember that life is too short to be an enemy.

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Unfortunately, the sad news came, Christian Atsu was declared dead. He had been trying to be reached for a long time after the terrible earthquake in Türkiye, but almost 2 weeks passed, it was almost certain that he would no longer survive. Today, his manager made a statement and said that Atsu was found now.
I don't know how the league will start back, it will be a difficult year for both players and us Sad

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Josef de Souza left Beşiktaş. The player, who was talked about going to China, made a great contribution to the team. His contract will be expired at the end of the season. So he left a little earlier. They transferred Maxim, so there's no shortage in the squad. There's not much to expect from this season anyway.

Matches will continue from March 3. There were a few matches that were postponed, they were to be played a week earlier than March 3. So basically the league will start next week. I don't know who's going to watch matches, but we have to get through this period somehow.

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Its sad there was misinformation about Atsu in news. They said he was found alive and brought to hospital. Turns out it was fake news. In reality he is still not found probably under rubble. His building was very big so his survival chance is very very slim now (so sad man). His manager claimed he may be found and brought somewhere other but I don't believe so. I think in couple of days when they start removing rubble he will be found. God protects him, please.

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There are a few misinformations going around about Atsu, there was a news about him being found on early days first, but turns out he wasn't and that is why we are still looking for him I believe. It has been 10 days, I do hope that he can survive for that long but things are unfortunately looking not so great at all, it would be pretty big miracle for someone to survive for 10 days without food or water, and even if he had some, I don't know how long it would take, and this is to consider he would survive the earthquake and waiting to be found, there is always a possibility that he may have passed away on the first crush as well. I hope he is doing alright, and I hope he will be found, but I would be expecting the worst at this point.

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Quote from: ingiltere on February 15, 2023, 04:52:35 PM

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On the 21/02/2023 Umraniyespor will be facing Adana Demirspor in the Turkish senior league this match is very important for both teams, the home team is fighting to move upward in other to shift from the relegation zone which might likely be impossible while the away team is sitted in the 5th position of the league they are going into this game to get the 3points added to their already existing points which I see as very visible and possible judging from the records between this two teams away team has just draw once with the home team after 5 matches been played between the two teams, the away team won four leaving home without anything, with this record the away side is going to win this game without much stress.

Stop spamming dude, all games are postponed. Are you living under a rock?

Christian Atsu is still missing, they can't find him. His agent told news reporters that his room is located but they couldn't find his body yet. It's hard to explain that very bad situation. I hope he's okay.

We don't know when will games start again but teams started to loan players from Hatayspor and Gaziantep FK. Above average players are already joined big clubs. I wonder what will below average players do. What if they couldn't find any club that is interested, they have to pass this time with training and friendlies only.

A really piece of shit account, surely using or AI, or not giving a fuck about reality and come and post/spam to fill the quota from the signature campaign.
Are you sure about Atsu? i feel like yesterday i saw a new saying they found him, maybe i read bad, or was misinformation by the press.

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On the 21/02/2023 Umraniyespor will be facing Adana Demirspor in the Turkish senior league this match is very important for both teams, the home team is fighting to move upward in other to shift from the relegation zone which might likely be impossible while the away team is sitted in the 5th position of the league they are going into this game to get the 3points added to their already existing points which I see as very visible and possible judging from the records between this two teams away team has just draw once with the home team after 5 matches been played between the two teams, the away team won four leaving home without anything, with this record the away side is going to win this game without much stress.

Stop spamming dude, all games are postponed. Are you living under a rock?

Christian Atsu is still missing, they can't find him. His agent told news reporters that his room is located but they couldn't find his body yet. It's hard to explain that very bad situation. I hope he's okay.

We don't know when will games start again but teams started to loan players from Hatayspor and Gaziantep FK. Above average players are already joined big clubs. I wonder what will below average players do. What if they couldn't find any club that is interested, they have to pass this time with training and friendlies only.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 15, 2023, 12:41:32 PM

Trabzonspor loaned Lazar Markovic until the end of the season. Beşiktaş signed with Alexandru Maxim. It's unbelievable that clubs are still spending money for this season. While the unfair decisions made by the federation are obvious, there is still no logic in making seasonal investments. Unfortunately, the clubs are very poorly managed. It's normal for players to want to play in other clubs, but clubs have to think about their own finances as well.

If you ask me the biggest problem in Turkish teams is team management because they usually lost valuable players and coaches but they invest and spend money on players they don't actually need and won't be worth that money invested them, regardless of that 22 games already passed on Turkish super league and Trabzonspor is the 6th teams of the league they need to reach enough points for the Europe conference league which is not far from them yet.

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I think it is always a good decision to build on the team you have, not only they may get into champions league levels, but they will need some good players for that. I also think that even though these teams are getting these players on loan, I am not entirely sure how these players would be playing, imagine a disaster that 100k+ people got affected by and 30+ thousand dead, and you were in the middle of it. No matter how safe your house was, seeing such a disaster first hand leaves trauma to anyone and even though these players make millions, they are not emotionless, they will feel horrible about it as well. So they may have a hard time playing for a while, and these "loans" are just there to simply give them a few minutes of playing time and make sure they are physically fit for next season. I can't imagine players who went through these, would end up playing in Turkey next season, most may end up leaving the trauma behind and going to another country.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 15, 2023, 12:41:32 PM

Trabzonspor loaned Lazar Markovic until the end of the season. Beşiktaş signed with Alexandru Maxim. It's unbelievable that clubs are still spending money for this season. While the unfair decisions made by the federation are obvious, there is still no logic in making seasonal investments. Unfortunately, the clubs are very poorly managed. It's normal for players to want to play in other clubs, but clubs have to think about their own finances as well.

I was thinking the same until I see the news about Josef de Souza, Nkoudu and Atiba are leaving. It means that Beşiktaş desperately needs some at least mediocre players in the midfield. I actually don't know much about Alexandru Maxim but if so many players are leaving, maybe it is good to have some alternative players. The investment and management part of the clubs are becoming a joke indeed. The future looks not bright at all.

Btw Josef de Souza just visited a Besiktas fan child who got out of under the rubbles after the earthquake. He was a nice person and once a good player. But he was absent this season. It seems like a good deal for him and Besiktas.

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Trabzonspor loaned Lazar Markovic until the end of the season. Beşiktaş signed with Alexandru Maxim. It's unbelievable that clubs are still spending money for this season. While the unfair decisions made by the federation are obvious, there is still no logic in making seasonal investments. Unfortunately, the clubs are very poorly managed. It's normal for players to want to play in other clubs, but clubs have to think about their own finances as well.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on February 13, 2023, 11:08:38 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 12, 2023, 05:22:30 PM

The "logic" of a mathematical edge for teams who hasn't played yet could be a legit reason, but at the same time, you played them and you lost them and that's that, if they withdraw, you are going to get the second game as a win, just like everyone else, and that's your "benefit" from this, to want the previous games to be counted as a win, during an earthquake is really a bad move. I have been checking turkish social media and even the biggest Besiktas fans find this disgraceful, Besiktas fans are actually at the earthquake zone and helping people every single day, by thousands, they wouldn't care if Besiktas was relegated this season as long as they can save even just one life, they are the most famous active fan group in all of Turkey and famous for their love of support towards everyone. You can put besiktas in amateur league if you want, as long as it means you can save more people and ALL of besiktas fans will approve, they are awesome in that regard, their president doesn't really represent the same mindset the fans have.

They lost some matches by playing on the field before, now they want to win those matches by talking at the table. This is not fair. These are matches played publicly.

Hatayspor and Gaziantepspor decided to withdraw from the league. There is positive discrimination for them. I think this is the right decision. But since Hatayspor and Gaziantepspor have withdrawn from the league, if the TFF gives points to the teams that lost in the past matches, it will make positive discrimination against the other teams. I don't think this is the right decision. Because the other teams are not even in the earthquake zone. And they may have lost points in the matches they had the opportunity to play before.

It's actually too early to talk about this. We have to wait a little. If there is a mistake, the biggest mistake may be that we talk about them early.

I am not this much optimistic about Federation's decision. I think they will not easily change it. Positive discrimination against Hatayspor and Gaziantep FK is obviously acceptable, they experienced big disaster. But federation s decision rewards teams that didn't play against these two, and punishes teams that already played against them. Its weird decision but I think people just can't understand why. In middle of league fixture this type of changes effect so many teams. Many will get free 3 points meanwhile many others won't able to get even 1 extra point. Its unfair.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 12, 2023, 05:22:30 PM

The "logic" of a mathematical edge for teams who hasn't played yet could be a legit reason, but at the same time, you played them and you lost them and that's that, if they withdraw, you are going to get the second game as a win, just like everyone else, and that's your "benefit" from this, to want the previous games to be counted as a win, during an earthquake is really a bad move. I have been checking turkish social media and even the biggest Besiktas fans find this disgraceful, Besiktas fans are actually at the earthquake zone and helping people every single day, by thousands, they wouldn't care if Besiktas was relegated this season as long as they can save even just one life, they are the most famous active fan group in all of Turkey and famous for their love of support towards everyone. You can put besiktas in amateur league if you want, as long as it means you can save more people and ALL of besiktas fans will approve, they are awesome in that regard, their president doesn't really represent the same mindset the fans have.

They lost some matches by playing on the field before, now they want to win those matches by talking at the table. This is not fair. These are matches played publicly.

Hatayspor and Gaziantepspor decided to withdraw from the league. There is positive discrimination for them. I think this is the right decision. But since Hatayspor and Gaziantepspor have withdrawn from the league, if the TFF gives points to the teams that lost in the past matches, it will make positive discrimination against the other teams. I don't think this is the right decision. Because the other teams are not even in the earthquake zone. And they may have lost points in the matches they had the opportunity to play before.

It's actually too early to talk about this. We have to wait a little. If there is a mistake, the biggest mistake may be that we talk about them early.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on February 13, 2023, 08:15:34 AM

You have to be an idiot not to realize that this is such a great injustice. A team played a part of their match and didn't play a part. If it's withdrawn from the league, all matches must be evaluated in the same way. What is 3 points for an unplayed match? Something so ridiculous shouldn't even be discussed. But unfortunately, there is such a ridiculous environment that everyone is trying to benefit from this situation in some way.

I completely agree. I think there is only one just option that could be applied within this topic. It is obvious, all matches these teams played should be removed. All their defeats and wins. So table wouldn't include points of their matches. I think federation is biased. Many teams played against these teams and some of them already lost. What's their guilt to not get 3 points meanwhile teams that didn't play against them are getting free 3 points. Guys just be logical. Current procedure is irrational.

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