Topic: Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season - page 36. (Read 16111 times)

You have to be an idiot not to realize that this is such a great injustice. A team played a part of their match and didn't play a part. If it's withdrawn from the league, all matches must be evaluated in the same way. What is 3 points for an unplayed match? Something so ridiculous shouldn't even be discussed. But unfortunately, there is such a ridiculous environment that everyone is trying to benefit from this situation in some way.

The "logic" of a mathematical edge for teams who hasn't played yet could be a legit reason, but at the same time, you played them and you lost them and that's that, if they withdraw, you are going to get the second game as a win, just like everyone else, and that's your "benefit" from this, to want the previous games to be counted as a win, during an earthquake is really a bad move. I have been checking turkish social media and even the biggest Besiktas fans find this disgraceful, Besiktas fans are actually at the earthquake zone and helping people every single day, by thousands, they wouldn't care if Besiktas was relegated this season as long as they can save even just one life, they are the most famous active fan group in all of Turkey and famous for their love of support towards everyone. You can put besiktas in amateur league if you want, as long as it means you can save more people and ALL of besiktas fans will approve, they are awesome in that regard, their president doesn't really represent the same mindset the fans have.

I have seen in the news that his home country, Ghana, is sending a rescue team for him. But, unfortunately, it is probably too late. It has been almost a week by now. I hope he is somehow okay. Maybe got out of the building before or was saved but is now known his whereabouts. But again, unfortunately, this is a very very low chance. I just he is somehow okay.

I also think that decision is very very wrong. It is not how this situation should be handled. But also, I don't even understand what and how Besiktas president Ahmet Nur Çebi made a statement like that. It was quite bizarre, I didn't even read the Besiktas club's media announcement. It was just so very untimely.

You are right about this. It's good that these teams stayed in the league, I would be sad if they were relegated, but right now there has been a huge injustice with the other teams. The teams that played matches with these teams in the first weeks of the league are now aggrieved.
The federation needs to do something about this situation, otherwise we cannot say that there is justice in the league

Hatayspor and Gaziantep FK announced that they will not continue the league. Turkish Football Federation approved these demands. These two teams will be forfeited in their remaining matches, but the results of the previous matches will remain valid. This decision doesn't seem very fair to me, but we need to look at other examples around the world. Decisions taken in similar situations around the world can set a precedent for us as well.

It has become clear that there are 2 teams withdrawn from the league. However, while the results of the previous matches of these teams remain valid, it was decided to forfeit 3-0 in the matches they will play in the future. This creates a great injustice. The decision of the teams not to be relegated is very correct, but all the matches they played and will play throughout the league should have been forfeited 3-0. I really wonder what those who made such an unfair decision think. Enough of this injustice. This mistake needs to be corrected immediately. Otherwise, the clubs affected by this decision must sue. It will be seen in court that these decisions are not correct.

We are big nation now compared to past. Population is very high. Country is also geographically big relative to many others. We should set 20 teams rule permanent for sure.

Well honestly I don't understand why these 2 teams will be counted defeated in matches that aren't gonna be played. It feels it's counterproductive for ones that already played. I think they should be counted defeated in old matches too. Our federation comes up with shitty decisions like always. Table is gonna change a lot so strangely. I also saw teams are allowed to get players from those 2 teams. Hatay and Gaziantep.

Nicolo Zaniolo is definitely a very talented and very young football player. No one doubts that. Milan were also interested in him for a while. However, he became one of the most expensive transfers of the Turkish Super League today. Because of this, there is some debate. I think he will continue his development here and go to one of the elite leagues for a better transfer fee. Galatasaray made the right transfer. Some fans cannot understand this today. But when the time comes, everyone will understand. We have heard such criticisms before when Marcao was transferred.

I don't think we should be mad at a team for making a transfer, these things do not happen overnight and that means they were in talks and nearly done by the time this happened anyway, which means that they would have to actually stop something right before it is official, which makes no sense.

And about the money, if they are really paying just 3 million a year, that's not a lot, teams in Turkey spend more than that all the time, shouldn't be an issue at all, 3 million a year is something they can make just from participating UCL or europa. Player would be getting very little this year, and getting like less than 3 million himself each year after that. They paid more for Falcao, it's really not a bad deal. I am sure Turkey must have some financial crisis now that disaster happened, I don't know their current economy, but 6 million for a young superstar sounds cheap right?

As reported by Reuters, Hatayspor's winger Christian Atsu remains missing despite the previous statement from the club's vice president that he had been rescued with injuries and taken to the hospital. The initial announcement of Atsu's rescue had given hope to the family, friends, and fans, but now they are left with uncertainty and concern. The situation is being closely monitored by the media, and updates are expected to be provided as soon as more information becomes available. In the meantime, thoughts and prayers are with the player and everyone else who was affected by this great tragedy.

I agree that 20 team solution should always be the number of teams for the future, it will actually be pretty good to have more games and more numbers because that equals to more money as well, every single game matters, teams need to get paid more tv rights for those extra games, merch sales, and ticket sales, all that matters. I do not know how they will handle hatay not going down and yet 2 teams going down anyway, but I am sure that it is going to be accepted by everyone anyway. The last time they had these relegation and promotion changes on pandemic, they made it temporary and tried to get back to 18, I hope they keep the 20 forever this time around.

Hatayspor is officially out in Super League. Gaziantep FK will also probably make same decision. Federation will freeze their rights so they won't relegate this season. There is a plan that only 2 teams will relegate this season and 3 teams will promote so next year there will be 20 teams in the league.
For covid reason we see imbalanced number of teams in the league for the last 3 seasons already. I guess this 20 teams solution may be permanent in the future.

The matches have been postponed due to the earthquake. For this reason, there will be no matches for about 3-4 weeks. Gaziantep and Hatayspor are among the teams that survived the earthquake heavily. It seems likely that they will not play any more matches this year. It is possible that the teams with matches will have a direct win. At the moment, no exact announcement has been made, but it seems to be expected.

Hatayspor stated that they do not want to continue their league matches. The Football Federation said they would reserve their rights. Gaziantepspor may also make the same decision. It is not easy for them to play matches this year. But life goes on despite all the pain. Maybe if the league is suspended for a month, their decisions may change. Because they are professional football players. They have to keep their conditioning at a certain level. But for now, these are very trivial matters. And everyone will respect the decision of Hatayspor and Gaziantepspor.

They must be thinking this year's title is already theirs, that's why they must be comfortable with such a high transfer fee. But it seems completely illogical to me. Neither the country nor the club is doing ok, especially after the tragic incident. I can't comprehend this much of a transfer is really needed for Galatasaray. He is obviously a good player but isn't there an issue with his injuries also? I see from this topic that the deal is for them to pay 3m x 5 years, but still. I don't think it's worth it. I also think this transfer may affect Galatasaray badly. It just doesn't seem right.

We are aware of what a good and valuable player Zanioli is. But if Galatasaray has such a large transfer budget, why haven't they made other transfers so far? With this money, they could buy players that could be much more useful to the team.
I think they are investing for the next year, the target will be to achieve success in Europe

I wasn't even looking at the news because there would be no transfer at the moment, now I've heard about this transfer. There is only one issue on Turkey's agenda right now. Galatasaray also allocated a very good budget for such a transfer, they decided to play big, they want to secure the league championship and then rise to a certain level in Europe. I'm already starting to wonder how Zaniolo will contribute, he adapts once he starts playing.

Transfermarkt wrote it as 15 million Euro transfer fee. We are not such a rich country. I don't understand how they made such a transfer. Such a big transfer fee and such a big salary. It will be really hard to pay. I think they've decided to spend the prize money already because they see this season's championship as a guarantee. I think the timing is also very wrong. I think this transfer will affect them very negatively. We'll see what happens.

I'm also very surprised with the Zaniolo deal for Galatasaray. I didn't ever think that any team in the league would have tried to sign anyone while we were having horrible days after the disastrous earthquake. Bu it looks like Galatasaray saw an opportunity and didn't want to let go of that.

The full details of the deal:

- A four-year contract
- 3.5m euros yearly wage
- 16.5m euros for transfer fee
- 13m euros for bonuses
- A 35m euro release clause

Zaniolo was actually a very promising player. But the serious injuries he has had changed the direction of his career I'm afraid. But who knows maybe Galatasaray would be a help for him to shine again. If he didn't have such incidents then Galatasaray wouldn't have a chance to sign him because much bigger teams would be in line for him.

My own team, Galatasaray, just spent 15 million euro on Zaniolo, to be fair the first of the payments will be in October 2023, and not anytime soon, and it will be 5 equally divided installments over 5 years, which means they will pay 3 million a year starting next October. But it is still a not so good feeling right now, with all the disaster going on, "spending" this much money doesn't feel like a good deal.

There are 2 things that football teams can do as of right now. First of all, sell signed jerseys, players could sign jerseys as much as they can possibly do, and people could buy these, and all of this income would go towards the disaster, anyone in any team could do this, from the top teams to 3rd division teams, doesn't matter how small a contribution is, as long as there is some. But the top ones like Icardi signed jersey would probably be sold for a lot of money.

Secondly, teams could send whatever merchandise they have to the disaster area, it doesn't matter which team it is once again, you can be fan of any team and if you are freezing there, you would wear any teams coat or whatever, as long as it keeps you alive at this point. The big clubs have thousands and thousands of items on their stores, and I am sure they are sending some of it, but if they can just send it all, that would be lovely.

These could be the first things to do, aside from that I am sure managements are already doing their personal best, heard many of the team presidents and members are sending millions personally, but they can start looking at the club as well.