Turkish Super League 2023/24 Season - page 136.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 30, 2023, 08:30:43 PM

Fenerbahçe needs to enter this season with good transfers, otherwise the chances of becoming champion seem to be difficult this year.Ali Koç, who restarted Ismail Kartal as technical director, should do what the technical director wants and not read his own way.He should respect what Ismail Kartal wants, otherwise I doubt that there will be a Fenerbahçe that will run to success.We know that he has been working hard since he took office and his first goal should be to determine who will go and who will stay.

Fenerbahçe were late in announcing their coach. Because it was clear that Jorge Jesus would leave the team. Therefore, they should have determined the coach earlier. But since İsmail Kartal knows Fenerbahçe and the Turkish Super League, they will not have any problems in this regard. If we evaluate the event from this perspective, İsmail Kartal is a good choice for them. But I don't think they will be successful this season. Beşiktaş and Trabzonspor were almost absent last season. Beşiktaş recovered a bit in the second half of the league. Trabzonspor played badly all season. I think Trabzonspor and Beşiktaş may be better this season and Fenerbahçe may have a more difficult season.

With current situation look like we have Galatasaray is going to lead again because things looking pretty easy and better with for the second spot we will have too many teams as Fenerbahçe is having not good time, but this all is too early with many ups and downs can happen.

Besiktas is always good in second half of the season but sadly not able to recover the damage which happen in first half, so again things need better performance in first half if they want to stay at the top for the better spot otherwise again they will be in trouble Trobzonspor is also not good after winning title because they have gone badly which was not expected in last few years we have better improvement in Turkish League which is good as many players are also coming and things looking improved.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 30, 2023, 08:30:43 PM

Fenerbahçe needs to enter this season with good transfers, otherwise the chances of becoming champion seem to be difficult this year.Ali Koç, who restarted Ismail Kartal as technical director, should do what the technical director wants and not read his own way.He should respect what Ismail Kartal wants, otherwise I doubt that there will be a Fenerbahçe that will run to success.We know that he has been working hard since he took office and his first goal should be to determine who will go and who will stay.

Fenerbahçe were late in announcing their coach. Because it was clear that Jorge Jesus would leave the team. Therefore, they should have determined the coach earlier. But since İsmail Kartal knows Fenerbahçe and the Turkish Super League, they will not have any problems in this regard. If we evaluate the event from this perspective, İsmail Kartal is a good choice for them. But I don't think they will be successful this season. Beşiktaş and Trabzonspor were almost absent last season. Beşiktaş recovered a bit in the second half of the league. Trabzonspor played badly all season. I think Trabzonspor and Beşiktaş may be better this season and Fenerbahçe may have a more difficult season.

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İsmail Kartal is a name who became champion with Fenerbahce in the Super League two times. Both championships were many years ago though but this can still be a sign for Fenerbahce to put an end to their longing for being champions in the league. Whoever manages the team he won't have a comfortable work to do for sure of course.

Especially Galatasaray have been doing a really impressive work and they are likely to maintain this look by new season as well. İsmail Kartal needs to work harder than Jorge Jesus to bring the title to his team. Otherwise he might be next to get sacked after completing one season.

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Fenerbahçe needs to enter this season with good transfers, otherwise the chances of becoming champion seem to be difficult this year.Ali Koç, who restarted Ismail Kartal as technical director, should do what the technical director wants and not read his own way.He should respect what Ismail Kartal wants, otherwise I doubt that there will be a Fenerbahçe that will run to success.We know that he has been working hard since he took office and his first goal should be to determine who will go and who will stay.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 30, 2023, 04:16:48 PM

according to the numbers of votes made in this thread Beşiktaş has 45% of votes, while Galatasaray has 36% of votes, well Fenerbahçe has 18% and in my opinion I don't see Fenerbahçe with any chance (not even one small chance ) of becoming champions, now as for Beşiktaş being the favorite according to the majority of people who voted for this thread, I think it's something I can only see in the first games when the league starts, that's because I've been following some news from Beşiktaş signings but they are news in Turkish and with very little data

it's very hard for me to get a lot of constant news about the signings that each Turkish team is making, but when the league is starting, the news channels that I've been following soon make available the news about each team in the Turkish league, but for now and because last season I could see their performance, I would say that Galatasaray has a good chance of being champion this season again, which would make them champion two consecutive seasons, I don't know how many good players Galatasaray sold, but I see them as favorites to win again new

Beşiktaş, Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are the three top clubs that possess the strength to win their domestic league. The best club will always have enthusiastic followers, that is a simple fact of sports. One cannot support a club that is struggling to record outstanding performances and followers; they have to patiently wait for the club to become an elite team before becoming supporters. You ought to refrain from rushing to draw conclusions, and I believe these individuals voted for their preferred teams based on personal preferences rather than team performance and analytical information.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 30, 2023, 04:16:48 PM

according to the numbers of votes made in this thread Beşiktaş has 45% of votes, while Galatasaray has 36% of votes, well Fenerbahçe has 18% and in my opinion I don't see Fenerbahçe with any chance (not even one small chance ) of becoming champions, now as for Beşiktaş being the favorite according to the majority of people who voted for this thread, I think it's something I can only see in the first games when the league starts, that's because I've been following some news from Beşiktaş signings but they are news in Turkish and with very little data

That's too early to talk about, only 11 people voted on the poll. Wait for at least 30 votes to see it better.
Most of the votes are fan votes anyway, I don't think people vote on opposed teams. They always vote on their favorite team, even if it's not a strong contender that year.

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according to the numbers of votes made in this thread Beşiktaş has 45% of votes, while Galatasaray has 36% of votes, well Fenerbahçe has 18% and in my opinion I don't see Fenerbahçe with any chance (not even one small chance ) of becoming champions, now as for Beşiktaş being the favorite according to the majority of people who voted for this thread, I think it's something I can only see in the first games when the league starts, that's because I've been following some news from Beşiktaş signings but they are news in Turkish and with very little data

it's very hard for me to get a lot of constant news about the signings that each Turkish team is making, but when the league is starting, the news channels that I've been following soon make available the news about each team in the Turkish league, but for now and because last season I could see their performance, I would say that Galatasaray has a good chance of being champion this season again, which would make them champion two consecutive seasons, I don't know how many good players Galatasaray sold, but I see them as favorites to win again new

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Quote from: püsür on June 30, 2023, 04:34:38 AM

I have seen a lot of news about Arda Güler going to Barcelona. Is that really true? I have also seen that PSG was interested in him too but I didn't believe it. Teams at the level of Barcelona and PSG are too much for Arda. Too big and too high level. There is no way he would be a solid team player in these teams in my opinion. I think it would be better for him to go to clubs like ajax, dortmund and napoli where he can improve himself instead of barcelona. It can be difficult for him to be at the top all of a sudden. He can evolve to a whole different level even with the training structure he will be exposed in there. If barcelona real madrid liverpool bayern wants you, you should accept it without thinking, because the training you will see there, the high-level environment you will enter can evolve you to a completely different level. If I were him, I would agree without hesitation. But I don't think so. At least there are news that even if his transfer happens, he will play for Fenerbahce one more year. That would be a smart move for Barça, if it happens.

I also think that Arda Güler will make a better development in Borussia Dortmund. Because world star football players such as Belligham, Haaland and Lewandowski passed through Borussia Dortmund's system. Arda Güler could have evolved into a better football player by going through that system. But the news that he will be transferred to Barcelona is getting more intense. Arda Güler is undoubtedly a very talented young football player. And now we know that it is impossible to keep him in Fenerbahçe. Let's see how his European adventure will be.

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Quote from: flipme on June 30, 2023, 04:09:52 AM

The brand value of the Turkish league has been a little low in recent years. That's why quality players don't get the offers they deserve. However, I think Boey and Nelson are of the quality to play very comfortably on any team in Europe.

The Turkish Super League has turned into a good reserve league in recent years. For example, before Icardi came to Galatasaray, he did not have a stable performance. He came to Galatasaray and reached his old performance again. Boey and Nelson were talented but somewhat inexperienced players, but now they have reached the status of two young talents with very bright futures. I think the players who come to the Turkish Super League are making progress and therefore the transfer fees mentioned are quite normal for them.

I do not know much about Nelson but I heard a ton about Boey, it has been rumored for bunch of premier league clubs on transfermarkt and wherever I checked there it looked like he was rumored to go there. Definitely looks like the type of player who would be great for a while longer, he is young, super fast, and has great defensive instincts.

I checked who he reminds and the closest we already have is Trent Alexander-Arnold and if he can become like that, I would highly suggest selling him for money AND also cut of the next sale because that would be an easy 50+ million, or even maybe 100 million player at that point. It's obvious that we are going to see him leave, a player that can make as much as 10 million a year won't stay there.

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If Arda Güler transfers to Barcelona, it will follow the plans of both teams. Fenerbahçe wants to keep Arda in the team for 1 more season, but also wants to sell him and earn a good amount of money. Barcelona can only transfer for next season. From this point of view, it would be a very logical move for both teams.
I think Arda may be compatible in La Liga, but it's very difficult for him to get playing time in Barcelona. It's going to take time to get used to it, show up, and beat his teammates. It's important how much he develops himself during this time. Barcelona has always been a team with the best players. If you're not the best, you don't have a chance there. Even being in jersey competition will be a very difficult stage for him. Can he succeed? It depends on how hard he works, it's up to him.

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Quote from: püsür on June 30, 2023, 04:34:38 AM

I have seen a lot of news about Arda Güler going to Barcelona. Is that really true? I have also seen that PSG was interested in him too but I didn't believe it. Teams at the level of Barcelona and PSG are too much for Arda. Too big and too high level. There is no way he would be a solid team player in these teams in my opinion. I think it would be better for him to go to clubs like ajax, dortmund and napoli where he can improve himself instead of barcelona. It can be difficult for him to be at the top all of a sudden. He can evolve to a whole different level even with the training structure he will be exposed in there. If barcelona real madrid liverpool bayern wants you, you should accept it without thinking, because the training you will see there, the high-level environment you will enter can evolve you to a completely different level. If I were him, I would agree without hesitation. But I don't think so. At least there are news that even if his transfer happens, he will play for Fenerbahce one more year. That would be a smart move for Barça, if it happens.

I've seen these news too, and I think it will be true. If a team like Barcelona wants any football player in Türkiye, that person will definitely accept this offer Cheesy

It would be a very good thing for everyone that he will stay in Fenerbahçe for 1 more year. Arda is not a big enough player to play for Barcelona, he is just a talented young man. If he stays in Fenerbahçe and has a successful season, he may become one of the most valuable football players in Europe in the coming years. For all this, he needs to have a good season, just the transfer will not be enough

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I have seen a lot of news about Arda Güler going to Barcelona. Is that really true? I have also seen that PSG was interested in him too but I didn't believe it. Teams at the level of Barcelona and PSG are too much for Arda. Too big and too high level. There is no way he would be a solid team player in these teams in my opinion. I think it would be better for him to go to clubs like ajax, dortmund and napoli where he can improve himself instead of barcelona. It can be difficult for him to be at the top all of a sudden. He can evolve to a whole different level even with the training structure he will be exposed in there. If barcelona real madrid liverpool bayern wants you, you should accept it without thinking, because the training you will see there, the high-level environment you will enter can evolve you to a completely different level. If I were him, I would agree without hesitation. But I don't think so. At least there are news that even if his transfer happens, he will play for Fenerbahce one more year. That would be a smart move for Barça, if it happens.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on June 29, 2023, 08:28:40 AM

The demand for Galatasaray players is increasing. Tottenham Hotspur want Zaniolo and Nelsson. Galatasaray wanted 60 million Euro for two players. Tottenham offered 35 million Euro + 2 players, but this wasn't accepted. Honestly, I don't think they can get 60 million. The players they have are valuable, but they are not worth that much in the Turkish league. If they were taken from another league, this money could be given. The brand value of our league is not that much, and this also affects transfer fees.
Brighton gave 18.5 million Euro for Boey. Galatasaray found this offer too little. I think it's great money. Galatasaray seems to be making a lot of money from transfers this season.

The brand value of the Turkish league has been a little low in recent years. That's why quality players don't get the offers they deserve. However, I think Boey and Nelson are of the quality to play very comfortably on any team in Europe.

The Turkish Super League has turned into a good reserve league in recent years. For example, before Icardi came to Galatasaray, he did not have a stable performance. He came to Galatasaray and reached his old performance again. Boey and Nelson were talented but somewhat inexperienced players, but now they have reached the status of two young talents with very bright futures. I think the players who come to the Turkish Super League are making progress and therefore the transfer fees mentioned are quite normal for them.

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Zaniolo stated that he was happy to be here now. He likes to play for Galatasaray. However he mentioned Juventus a couple of times in his statement. It looks like he is willing to sign for Juventus in case there is an offer by them. This is bad news for Galatasaray undoubtedly. But there is still nothing concrete when we look at the situation.

I haven't seen any interest by Juventus side so far. The only interest I have seen is from Aston Villa but there is no offer yet. I wonder if Zaniolo would be eager to play in the Premier League as well. There is a huge quality gap between the leagues so it should be attracting to him of course.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on June 29, 2023, 08:28:40 AM

The demand for Galatasaray players is increasing. Tottenham Hotspur want Zaniolo and Nelsson. Galatasaray wanted 60 million Euro for two players. Tottenham offered 35 million Euro + 2 players, but this wasn't accepted. Honestly, I don't think they can get 60 million. The players they have are valuable, but they are not worth that much in the Turkish league. If they were taken from another league, this money could be given. The brand value of our league is not that much, and this also affects transfer fees.
Brighton gave 18.5 million Euro for Boey. Galatasaray found this offer too little. I think it's great money. Galatasaray seems to be making a lot of money from transfers this season.

Hmm very surprising offers in my opinion. I always thought all 3 players you mentioned are very skilled and have quality beyond Turkish Super league. But amounts of money mentioned here may not be worth. Nelsson is not a very consistent defender. He has some above average performance always but its not anything special. Zaniolo seems very unique but underdisciplined fore sure still. I think only Boey can worth that offer. He is very consistent back player, always hardworking and not picking a match to be more concentrated.

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Quote from: Balmain on June 25, 2023, 08:41:24 AM

Galatasaray showed a good game last season and won the championship with the right transfers and under the control of Okan Buruk. Due to the great disaster in our country in the last weeks of the season, the league stopped and we tried to heal the wounds as a whole country, and the decisions taken by the federation were not quite right. It is very important for Galatasaray to make a few important transfers this season, as a result, it is necessary to take a few names to the team after the championship. If a middle ground is found for Icardi, he proved a more than enough striker last season, if he can stay in the team, I'm sure we will see better this season. It would also be nice to see two solid forwards like Dzeko and Icardi in the league.

Icardi has done very well this season. As far as I know, there are also offers from the Saudi Arabian league. In one year, all Galatasaray fans loved Icardi. One of the biggest shares in Galatasaray's winning the cup belongs to Icardi. If he stays, the best candidate for the championship will be Galatasaray. The team is already very good. They will do one or two transfers. Galatasaray does not tell the press about the player they talked to before transferring. In fact, this is very advantageous for them because they buy the player they are interested in before the price rises.

If Dzeko and Icardi play in the same league, the quality of the league will increase.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on June 29, 2023, 08:28:40 AM

The demand for Galatasaray players is increasing. Tottenham Hotspur want Zaniolo and Nelsson. Galatasaray wanted 60 million Euro for two players. Tottenham offered 35 million Euro + 2 players, but this wasn't accepted. Honestly, I don't think they can get 60 million. The players they have are valuable, but they are not worth that much in the Turkish league. If they were taken from another league, this money could be given. The brand value of our league is not that much, and this also affects transfer fees.
Brighton gave 18.5 million Euro for Boey. Galatasaray found this offer too little. I think it's great money. Galatasaray seems to be making a lot of money from transfers this season.

Galatasaray finally doing something about their finances. They bought so much players and now they can sell them for bigger amounts but still that offer from Tottenham looks good i dont know why they rejected because they could have got two good players from the premier league that would make an impact in turkish league. But still looks like Galatasaray will profit a lot in this transfer window

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The demand for Galatasaray players is increasing. Tottenham Hotspur want Zaniolo and Nelsson. Galatasaray wanted 60 million Euro for two players. Tottenham offered 35 million Euro + 2 players, but this wasn't accepted. Honestly, I don't think they can get 60 million. The players they have are valuable, but they are not worth that much in the Turkish league. If they were taken from another league, this money could be given. The brand value of our league is not that much, and this also affects transfer fees.
Brighton gave 18.5 million Euro for Boey. Galatasaray found this offer too little. I think it's great money. Galatasaray seems to be making a lot of money from transfers this season.

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Umut Nayır is on Fenerbahçe's radar and they want this forward very much. Currently, heavy bargains are being made and as a result, they cannot agree on the price. It is said that they want a good salary at Lotus Sport, where Umut Nayır is his advisor. It is said that 35-40 million is requested annually, I don't know what Fenerbahce offered, it seems like they will agree as a result of hard bargains on both sides. The fact that he scored against Wales with the National team jersey before the season started was very good for his motivation. A successful striker to one of the top three clubs. He has the capacity to try Europe in his thirties.

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Quote from: flipme on June 26, 2023, 02:50:51 AM

Ali Koç can make this statement very easily because he knows that no one will be able to confront him. The team is going through the worst period of recent years, but no one can stand up to Ali Koç as a candidate. I think that if Ali Koç does not resign himself, no one can stand against him as a candidate. Fenerbahce's problem seems to be off the field and as personal problems. Also, I don't think Aziz Yıldırım will be a candidate for club presidency again due to his age. He had said earlier that he was too old and wanted to spend time with his family. Fenerbahce are starting the new season with serious problems. I think they will be the weakest candidate of the next season in the championship race.

He made such a call because he knew that no one wanted to take over this wreckage and that he would not be able to recover it in a year, and of course no one came against him, but when there is an election in the ordinary general assembly, there will be presidential candidates.
Fenerbahçe has problems both on and off the field. No one can be a captain or a big brother in the team. Off the field, Ali Koç's management of the team like a company is already a problem in itself.
He said he wouldn't leave the team unattended if Aziz Yıldırım doesn't run for president. He has the means to be the interim president of the team.

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