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legendary
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December 30, 2023, 04:05:27 PM
This was the best derby I've ever witnessed although football being not played at all. It was a stupid idea to play the game in arabia anyway. They may have some people watching their games after the recent transfers, including me, but this doesn't mean an organization being held there is a good idea. Apart from the political stuff, this incident yesterday will slightly affect the league. Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe have to play this match in their usual schedule. Players missed a holiday and again have to miss again for this high tensioned game. Their usual games in the near dates of this super cup match will have interesting betting.

This match was supposed to be played in Turkey. That was the problem from the very beginning. I was very happy that the match was cancelled. While everyone was complaining about the federation, we watched an avalanche of reactions and this made me very happy.
There is still no clear development regarding the match. I wonder if it will be played in Arabia or if they will arrange a stadium in Turkey. Teams in almost every city invited Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe for the Super Cup final on Twitter. It's great that the teams show their friendship in this way Smiley
hero member
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December 30, 2023, 03:10:43 PM
I think the turkish federation needs to put some effort into becoming more competitive in europe because as we see Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both have really good teams, but they always strugled a lot in european games, also Besiktas when they play.
There is no doubt now it's needed some good changes but still as we are heading we have good improvement in quality and performance of many teams which is positive, but things can't go into change with as we have in Saudi Arab because they are doing all they can afford here we have no luxury like this but still we can expect few more positive changes which are essential recently we have good improvement in UEFA results which are giving green signals for the future as well.

But for the more investment from club owners need to have better revenue and media rights sell as well which is not easy, but we can expect good growth for the Turkish League in future despite many on and off the field issues if they are able to have good investment then surely things can go drastically and this league can go at their best in just few years.
sr. member
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December 30, 2023, 12:49:21 PM
I think the turkish federation needs to put some effort into becoming more competitive in europe because as we see Galatasaray and Fenerbahce both have really good teams, but they always strugled a lot in european games, also Besiktas when they play.
hero member
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December 30, 2023, 12:23:23 PM
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Yes, the draw they got really proves that both of them are equally strong this season, I am very curious about today's final match between the two because this time Galatasaray will have an advantage because they are playing at home, but unfortunately the match has to be postponed so we are still curious with the results in this Turkish Super League final, but maybe I favor Galatasaray more or it could still be a draw like in the previous match.

Galatasaray is not only focused on the Turkish league but also has to focus on the play off round of the European league. Galatasaray failed in the Champions League. They should be able to improve their performance to perform optimally and be able to win against Sparta Praha so they can qualify for the next round and compete closely in the round of 16. European League. Apart from that, Galatasaray is also focused on winning the title in the Turkish League in tight competition with Fenerbahce.
Last weekend, the toughest sides in the Turkish Super Lig played against each other. It was definitely an intense game for both teams as they had in their respective stores what to fight for. The game ended fairly in a goalless draw which only is a sign of how resilient they both were and unwavering too. These sides are good at what they do and they did not also let any factor deprive them of the strength out into the game.

 Galatasaray now has just the Turkish League race to focus on having been knocked out of the Champions league and it's an advantage for them to build up enough capacity to stay out at their top spot and for Fernabache, the struggle is up and they're definitely up to whatsoever task put before them too. Subsequent games in the league would begin after the New Year break and then we'd have the competition for the league trophy back on. These two teams have always been an upper hand in the league and maybe it'll be repeated this season as well
hero member
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December 30, 2023, 09:24:50 AM
This was the best derby I've ever witnessed although football being not played at all. It was a stupid idea to play the game in arabia anyway. They may have some people watching their games after the recent transfers, including me, but this doesn't mean an organization being held there is a good idea. Apart from the political stuff, this incident yesterday will slightly affect the league. Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe have to play this match in their usual schedule. Players missed a holiday and again have to miss again for this high tensioned game. Their usual games in the near dates of this super cup match will have interesting betting.
legendary
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December 30, 2023, 09:00:12 AM
With this new Saudi deal, the whole nation is on riot right now, twitter is filled with Arabic and Turkish people fighting each other. The game was suppose to happen at Saudi Arabia, but there were some disagreements regarding national values.

There was no flag or national anthem allowed and obviously that wasn't acceptable, which is understandable, who wouldn't let two Turkish teams start the game with the Turkish anthem, that's ludacris. In the end, the game got cancelled, I have no idea if it was postponed or cancelled but one good thing is that the bets were voided already, which means that I already got my bet back, and as long as I keep getting my bets back this quickly, I am fine with them cancelling if they didn't want to play.
I can't believe there was terrible crisis happened before match even started. I think both Saudi Arabian organizator and Turkish football federation made numerous mistakes yesterday that caused match to be cancelled. When you receive visitor to your country you should definitely act accordingly to their demand. Turkish fans are very intense and they love to use national symbols and sayings at tribune. If you don't like it then, do not even invite Turkish clubs. I hope match will be totally cancelled and cup will be shared by both teams.
sr. member
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December 30, 2023, 06:26:00 AM
Despite Fenerbahce and Galatasaray going head to head on points that's the both clubs have got 44 points each, I still see Fenerbahce winning the Turkish super league this season because of their high goal scoring in their matches so definitely they will win the league also considering the availability and strength of their players they are still very much in form so they should maintain this awesome performance they've started with so that they can be more confident in achieving the trophy.
hero member
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December 30, 2023, 01:17:00 AM
Odds for today's Turkish Super Cup:
Galatasaray 2.19
X Draw 2.97
Fenerbahçe 2.44

Looks like betting companies favor Galatasaray a bit more than Fenerbahçe. I think a person who watched their last match will know both teams will look for other one to make a mistake. I think teams may be more relaxed as this is not league match but yet, draw seems lot more likely to me than one of them scoring 2 goals and winning match safely. Galatasaray is bit above Galatasaray in squad quality for sure tho. I don't think Icardi miss is big deal. Bakambu is definitely not below average player.
Last weekend, the toughest sides in the Turkish Super Lig played against each other. It was definitely an intense game for both teams as they had in their respective stores what to fight for. The game ended fairly in a goalless draw which only is a sign of how resilient they both were and unwavering too.These sides are good at what they do and they did not also let any factor deprive them of the strength out into the game.

 Galatasaray now has just the Turkish League race to focus on having been knocked out of the Champions league and it's an advantage for them to build up enough capacity to stay out at their top spot and for Fernabache, the struggle is up and they're definitely up to whatsoever task put before  them too. Subsequent games in the league would begin after the New Year break and then we'd have the competition for the league trophy back on. These two teams have always been an upper hand in the league and maybe it'll be repeated this season as well.
Yes, the draw they got really proves that both of them are equally strong this season, I am very curious about today's final match between the two because this time Galatasaray will have an advantage because they are playing at home, but unfortunately the match has to be postponed so we are still curious with the results in this Turkish Super League final, but maybe I favor Galatasaray more or it could still be a draw like in the previous match.

Galatasaray is not only focused on the Turkish league but also has to focus on the play off round of the European league. Galatasaray failed in the Champions League. They should be able to improve their performance to perform optimally and be able to win against Sparta Praha so they can qualify for the next round and compete closely in the round of 16. European League. Apart from that, Galatasaray is also focused on winning the title in the Turkish League in tight competition with Fenerbahce.
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 09:55:50 PM
With this new Saudi deal, the whole nation is on riot right now, twitter is filled with Arabic and Turkish people fighting each other. The game was suppose to happen at Saudi Arabia, but there were some disagreements regarding national values.

There was no flag or national anthem allowed and obviously that wasn't acceptable, which is understandable, who wouldn't let two Turkish teams start the game with the Turkish anthem, that's ludacris. In the end, the game got cancelled, I have no idea if it was postponed or cancelled but one good thing is that the bets were voided already, which means that I already got my bet back, and as long as I keep getting my bets back this quickly, I am fine with them cancelling if they didn't want to play.
hero member
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December 29, 2023, 07:55:26 PM
It is all about free will basically. These teams have requested to come out supporting their belief, a sentence from the founding father of the nation, and the Saudi officials didn't allow it. The political stance they talked about was "peace at home, peace in the world", I really doubt you can get any more mild than that, it wasn't even that radical of a stance, it literally supports peace, such a good thing. And the images or face of Ataturk, founding father of Turkish Republic, on the tracksuits for warming up, it wasn't even on the jersey, which wouldn't even be seen during the game. But the last draw was struck when National Anthem was either not allowed, or if it was to be singed, then Saudi Arabic anthem would have to be sang too. Which was way too much. After all, it is not the reason that matters, it is the fact that these were the conditions, and if both sides disagree, then why force one side? I mean by logic, if Turkish teams didn't want this, then they should not be forced to play there, and if Saudis didn't agree, they shouldn't want them to play there neither. So both sides had a very natural disagreement and parted ways, I think that was for the best for everyone.
hero member
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December 29, 2023, 06:19:24 PM
It's been an interesting night. Both teams traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned without playing the match. These experiences affected them psychologically. Fortunately, both teams don't have matches until January 7. In the meantime, they will recover.
The league was given a new year's break, but its return will be quick. There are teams that will play 3 matches in 8 days. There will be no half-time camping, there is no such time. There is no time for struggling teams to recover or injured players to recover. When we look at it from this perspective, we can see that many teams are numerically deficient. If the transfer market opens, teams can make up for their shortcomings. For now, things are not going well for teams other than Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray, interestingly.

I have just read about this. Is this even for real? I am trying to understand what's going on, but why would the teams accept all the hassle, travel to Saudi Arabia to then find out that they end up disagreeing with the hosts about some arrangements to then fly home again? Wasn't there some warning in advance or some discussion about how the game was supposed to be played? I wonder how many fans travelled there from Turkey, paid for the hotel, perhaps planned a little trip for New Year's Eve.
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 05:58:05 PM
It's been an interesting night. Both teams traveled to Saudi Arabia and returned without playing the match. These experiences affected them psychologically. Fortunately, both teams don't have matches until January 7. In the meantime, they will recover.
The league was given a new year's break, but its return will be quick. There are teams that will play 3 matches in 8 days. There will be no half-time camping, there is no such time. There is no time for struggling teams to recover or injured players to recover. When we look at it from this perspective, we can see that many teams are numerically deficient. If the transfer market opens, teams can make up for their shortcomings. For now, things are not going well for teams other than Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray, interestingly.
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 05:57:54 PM
Both the Italian and Spanish football teams will play their Super Cup finals in Arabia for the next 6 years. Will they print pictures of Franco or their historical figures on their jerseys? Of course, NO. Have you ever seen English football players wearing King Edward's jersey in the Champions League final? Of course, NO. These things are unfortunately only done by people in my country because we have an education system based on brainwashing.

Now read the statement in this message again and understand better what kind of mentality exists in my country:

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Turkiye is a country that has been under the influence of one-party fascism for many years in the past. Some one-party fascists are trying to achieve through different means what they could not achieve by elections, and for this reason they use disinformation to mix politics into sports. Our country is a state of law that has fought against the putschist mentality for years and will continue to fight against the putschist mentality.

Also, according to the agreement with the Arabian Football Federation, political symbols are not allowed on the field and both teams have signed this agreement. So, they knew what would happen to them if they entered the field with political symbols. They knew that the Arabian Football Federation only allows sports on the football field and does not allow political events. Unfortunately, these two teams disgraced our country to the world.

By the way, according to a journalist who is politically close to them and owns a church (you would be surprised how he owns that church), Ali Koç, the president of Fenerbahçe club, asked for the match to be played in Arabia. This journalist is one of the strongest defenders of this education system.


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“Bizim sponsor olarak bu işlere karışma hakkımız yok. Ama elbette bir vatandaş olarak, milliyetçi bir vatandaş olarak bunu Federasyon Başkanı’na sordum. Nereden çıktı bu Suudi Arabistan işi?” dedim.

Aldığım yanıtı duyarsan şaşırırsın.
“Şaşırayım bakayım” dedim.
“Ali Koç önermiş” dedi.
“Anlamadım” dedim.
“Ali Koç’un önerisiymiş” dedi ve anlattı.
“Ali Koç Federasyon Başkanı’na “Avrupa takımları Suudi Arabistan’da maç veya turnuva oynayarak çok ciddi gelir elde ediyorlar. Biz de en azından kupa finalini orada oynayarak iyi bir gelir elde edebiliriz. Bunu planlarsanız çok iyi olur” demiş.
Federasyon da Ali Koç’un bu önerisi üzerine Suudilerle görüşmeye başlamış ve Süper Kupa Finali böylelikle Suudi Arabistan yolcusu olmuş.
https://www.gercekgundem.com/guncel/altayli-is-insaniyla-konusmasini-aktardi-super-kupanin-suudi-arabistanda-oynanmasinin-arkasinda-ali-koc-mu-var-442777
sr. member
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December 29, 2023, 04:14:45 PM
Our teams absolutely did the right thing there after this scandal. How dare you try to prevent anything about Atatürk? It is said that Saudi officials tried to keep our teams at the airport and prevent them from leaving the country. I don't know if that is a correct information though but as far as I know both teams are on their way home.  Smiley

The statements made by TFF chairman Mehmet Büyükekşi were like a joke also. I'm satisfied with the news that he resigned from his job not much time later than this - if the news are saying the truth about this topic though.
hero member
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December 29, 2023, 03:11:23 PM
Odds for today's Turkish Super Cup:
Galatasaray 2.19
X Draw 2.97
Fenerbahçe 2.44

Looks like betting companies favor Galatasaray a bit more than Fenerbahçe. I think a person who watched their last match will know both teams will look for other one to make a mistake. I think teams may be more relaxed as this is not league match but yet, draw seems lot more likely to me than one of them scoring 2 goals and winning match safely. Galatasaray is bit above Galatasaray in squad quality for sure tho. I don't think Icardi miss is big deal. Bakambu is definitely not below average player.
Last weekend, the toughest sides in the Turkish Super Lig played against each other. It was definitely an intense game for both teams as they had in their respective stores what to fight for. The game ended fairly in a goalless draw which only is a sign of how resilient they both were and unwavering too.These sides are good at what they do and they did not also let any factor deprive them of the strength out into the game.

 Galatasaray now has just the Turkish League race to focus on having been knocked out of the Champions league and it's an advantage for them to build up enough capacity to stay out at their top spot and for Fernabache, the struggle is up and they're definitely up to whatsoever task put before  them too. Subsequent games in the league would begin after the New Year break and then we'd have the competition for the league trophy back on. These two teams have always been an upper hand in the league and maybe it'll be repeated this season as well.
hero member
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December 29, 2023, 02:14:15 PM
Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe teams wanted to warm up before the match wearing T-shirts with Ataturk photographs on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Republic of Turkey. Saudi officials also opposed this situation. This being the case, both teams decided not to play the match and thus the match was postponed to a later date. The Italian Super Cup was played in these regions before. I wonder if the Saudi authorities interfered in their internal affairs again.
Every country and every club has its sensitive points. You can pay the money and bring these teams to your country, but you cannot interfere with their special situations.
sr. member
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December 29, 2023, 01:40:13 PM
The Super Cup match has been cancelled!

After the recent incidents happened both teams decided not to play this match and went on their way back to Turkey. I really appeciate both teams about their sensitive attitude about this topic. Because Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is the founder of our country. We owe him so much for the things he has done for the future of our country. Nobody can see themselves free about banning something related to him. Saudi Arabia's demands were too much and the teams have done the right thing as an answer.  Smiley
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December 29, 2023, 12:10:31 PM
Eric Bailly's contract has been mutually terminated. He was actually a good player, but he was prone to injury and was excluded from the squad due to his undisciplined behavior. It's really the player's fault that such a player, whose career included Villarreal, Manchester United and Olimpique Marseille, was left without a club when he should have experienced his prime at the age of 29. He ruined his own career. From now on, he can only play in small clubs of minor leagues. Only players who give everything with the ambition to win can play in Beşiktaş.

Yeah he go down the pipe very fast, he had the oportunities to become one of the best central defenders of this time but since he joined Manchester United his career started to fall.

Sad to see this kind of players who doesnt found his places and start to go back to minors teams.
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 11:52:14 AM
Eric Bailly's contract has been mutually terminated. He was actually a good player, but he was prone to injury and was excluded from the squad due to his undisciplined behavior. It's really the player's fault that such a player, whose career included Villarreal, Manchester United and Olimpique Marseille, was left without a club when he should have experienced his prime at the age of 29. He ruined his own career. From now on, he can only play in small clubs of minor leagues. Only players who give everything with the ambition to win can play in Beşiktaş.
legendary
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December 29, 2023, 08:39:29 AM
Odds for today's Turkish Super Cup:
Galatasaray 2.19
X Draw 2.97
Fenerbahçe 2.44

Looks like betting companies favor Galatasaray a bit more than Fenerbahçe. I think a person who watched their last match will know both teams will look for other one to make a mistake. I think teams may be more relaxed as this is not league match but yet, draw seems lot more likely to me than one of them scoring 2 goals and winning match safely. Galatasaray is bit above Galatasaray in squad quality for sure tho. I don't think Icardi miss is big deal. Bakambu is definitely not below average player.
This match is difficult to predict, both teams are at the same level, and indeed it is possible that match will end in a draw result. But to bet on draw odds, I personally not too brave. Considering this match is an important match for both teams because it is the final, I think both teams will probably do their best effort to get a good result. If they get the Turkish Super Cup, it will surely increase their confidence in the second half of this season.

It is impossible to predict the outcome of this match. Both teams are in strong positions this season. And both teams have strong squads. The last match between these two teams was also a goalless draw. In the last 5 head-to-head matches, both the teams have two wins and one draw. However, both teams have chances to win. It is not possible to say which team will win. But personally I prefer Fenerbahçe team. I like the gameplay of this team. At the same time, their attack is very strong. Fenerbahçe's players can score a lot of goals. Fenerbahçe's players have managed to score 44 goals in 17 matches of Super lig.
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