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Quote from: Dzigie on December 27, 2023, 06:42:51 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 27, 2023, 03:50:51 PM

I hope we watch a much better game. Galatasaray analyzed Fenerbahçe very well in the last game.
Now everything will be equal and I think Galatasaray is one step ahead.
There are 2 days left, no one wants to watch a gaöelike the first game.

The derby in the league was a really unpleasant match because the first aim of both teams was not to lose the match. However, I think that each team has weighed each other, so they will go into the cup final knowing each other's problematic sides. By the way, Fred, who received a 4 match ban for swearing at the referee in the league match, will be able to play in the cup final. I think this is good news. He couldn't play in the league match. I think now all the calculations will be done again for both sides.

Fenerbahçe fans depend a lot on Fred, they think the team will perform great with Fred, it's starting to seem to me like they depend everything on this man.
Anyway, let's see what Fenerbahçe with Fred will do against Galatasaray.

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 27, 2023, 07:28:12 AM

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Besiktas is one team in the Turkish League that are to an extent doing well for themselves. Even though they don't get to have a spot in the UCL, they still try their best to earn a spot in the UEL and while at that segment of the European tournament, they do their best to gain good results. They now have a new president who's got the ability to make the team better.

The funds will be generated and dispersed accordingly for the team. Besiktas being one of the top teams in the league still has the tendency of rising to a better stance. The arrival of the new president is surely going to make a positive turn around in the team and their game play will be improved too. We hope to see the new Besiktas a few days and weeks from now and see the difference they'd make

Yes, Besiktas is indeed one of the best clubs in the Turkish Super League, but I am quite sure that they really want to compete in the Champions League, because the Champions League is a competition that all clubs dream of, but at least if Besiktas does not succeed in competing in the Champions League, Besiktas will still can fight to compete in the Europa League this season if they can overtake Kayserispor and Trabszonpor in the top 4 positions if not otherwise Besiktas next season will not be able compete in the European League.

Yes, I hope that with the arrival of the new president, Besiktas can achieve satisfactory results and are expected by its supporters, because Besiktas is a top team, but sometimes they lack consistency like strong rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce, even so, I still hope that next season Besiktas can follow suit. European League competition and achieved good results there.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 27, 2023, 03:50:51 PM

I hope we watch a much better game. Galatasaray analyzed Fenerbahçe very well in the last game.
Now everything will be equal and I think Galatasaray is one step ahead.
There are 2 days left, no one wants to watch a gaöelike the first game.

The derby in the league was a really unpleasant match because the first aim of both teams was not to lose the match. However, I think that each team has weighed each other, so they will go into the cup final knowing each other's problematic sides. By the way, Fred, who received a 4 match ban for swearing at the referee in the league match, will be able to play in the cup final. I think this is good news. He couldn't play in the league match. I think now all the calculations will be done again for both sides.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 27, 2023, 02:15:13 PM

I also hope to watch a much more exciting match between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce this time. Both teams will make a lot of money surely. I mean even for the losing side it is quite a good amount to play for. But there is still a big gap between the winner prize and the prize for the losing side. Both teams should be able to make an extra effort to get the biggest prize money.

It feels like we will see both teams scoring also this time. Fenerbahce can be much more effective in the attacking side thanks to Fred's return but it is still difficult to predict the winner. The odds are favouring Galatasaray a little more.

I hope we watch a much better game. Galatasaray analyzed Fenerbahçe very well in the last game.
Now everything will be equal and I think Galatasaray is one step ahead.
There are 2 days left, no one wants to watch a gaöelike the first game.

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I also hope to watch a much more exciting match between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce this time. Both teams will make a lot of money surely. I mean even for the losing side it is quite a good amount to play for. But there is still a big gap between the winner prize and the prize for the losing side. Both teams should be able to make an extra effort to get the biggest prize money.

It feels like we will see both teams scoring also this time. Fenerbahce can be much more effective in the attacking side thanks to Fred's return but it is still difficult to predict the winner. The odds are favouring Galatasaray a little more.

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 27, 2023, 07:28:12 AM

Besiktas is one team in the Turkish League that are to an extent doing well for themselves. Even though they don't get to have a spot in the UCL, they still try their best to earn a spot in the UEL and while at that segment of the European tournament, they do their best to gain good results. They now have a new president who's got the ability to make the team better.

There is a rebuilding phase and it's hard to do it in the middle of the league. New manager haven't come yet. New transfer strategy is unknown. All these take time and there is no time right now.
Kasımpaşa game will be in January 5th. The holiday is only limited to one week. I'm not sure what is their plan as we heard news that manager candidates reject offers. This is Hasan Arat's biggest test as a chairman.

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After leaving a horrible derby game behind I hope that the Super Cup game between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce would be an enjoyable one to watch. Undecided

Think about a derby game in which there was only one shot on target. It is just terrible. This must be the most mediocre game between these 2 teams. The more interesting part is that this happened while both teams had their most scorers on the pitch. Fenerbahce didn't have Fred of course which affected their performance negatively also. As far as I know they won all of the games in which Fred played until now. The referee's decisions have been criticized a lot too just as I expected.

It was a total defensive match between them. A total of 13 shots in the game is okay, but a total of 1 shot on target in total 90 minutes is quite poor, lol. The match was not that enjoyable. But the Turkish Cup final is coming and that match would get a winner as that will be the final so the fans can expect exciting stuff. A penalty match is always exciting to watch. But the fans would be happier if we got to see some goals as well.

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Sorry for being this late, i forgot to comment about the derby here, yes a total shit game, very boring, no drama at all, only a few chances for both teams and not so clear, in the end of the game also seems like no one wants to win the game.

For both teams is not a bad result.

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Quote from: klidex on December 27, 2023, 02:07:21 AM

Yes, in the end Besiktas was able to win this match with a narrow scored of 2:1 and currently Besiktas has moved closer to being in the top 3 and if Besiktas is able to win the next match then Besiktas can returned to being in the top 3 and continue to maintain its position so that next season it will have the opportunity to compete competition in the Europa League because Besiktas' only hope is to compete there because to place themselves in second place and compete in the Champions League will be very difficult to achieve because the points difference with Fenerbahce and Galatasaray is quite large.

Besiktas is indeed a top club in the Turkish Super League, just like Fenerbahce and Galatasaray, but unfortunately this season Besiktas is not very consistent and even seems to be having difficulty winning, in fact other clubs such as Trabzonspor and Kayserispor can beat Besiktas in terms of points and Besiktas must improve their performance to get back in the rankings 3rd place as usual is side by side with the top clubs.

Besiktas is one team in the Turkish League that are to an extent doing well for themselves. Even though they don't get to have a spot in the UCL, they still try their best to earn a spot in the UEL and while at that segment of the European tournament, they do their best to gain good results. They now have a new president who's got the ability to make the team better.

The funds will be generated and dispersed accordingly for the team. Besiktas being one of the top teams in the league still has the tendency of rising to a better stance. The arrival of the new president is surely going to make a positive turn around in the team and their game play will be improved too. We hope to see the new Besiktas a few days and weeks from now and see the difference they'd make

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Quote from: klidex on December 27, 2023, 02:07:21 AM

Besiktas is indeed a top club in the Turkish Super League, just like Fenerbahce and Galatasaray, but unfortunately this season Besiktas is not very consistent and even seems to be having difficulty winning, in fact other clubs such as Trabzonspor and Kayserispor can beat Besiktas in terms of points and Besiktas must improve their performance to get back in the rankings 3rd place as usual is side by side with the top clubs.

Beşiktaş is actually a good team, but they had a very bad transfer season this year. Wrong transfers, players not playing.
The team needs to be restructured as soon as possible. The league needs old Beşiktaş.

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Quote from: klidex on December 27, 2023, 02:07:21 AM

Besiktas is indeed a top club in the Turkish Super League, just like Fenerbahce and Galatasaray, but unfortunately this season Besiktas is not very consistent and even seems to be having difficulty winning, in fact other clubs such as Trabzonspor and Kayserispor can beat Besiktas in terms of points and Besiktas must improve their performance to get back in the rankings 3rd place as usual is side by side with the top clubs.

Yeah Besiktas performance on the previous seasons are more better than there performance this season because just like you mentioned they have been so inconsistent on there winings because I no that if it was when besiktas are on there best performance they would have won most of the matches they failed to win this season when the opportunity was there for them, so actually is quite unfortunate for them this season.

Besiktas is still on the fifth place of the table and perhaps if they had win there match against Alanyanspor they would have clib more on there league table, actually they had a great opportunity of wining that match but they failed to and however they even manage to score first on the 9 minutes of the match and because of there week performance Alanyanspor had to equalize and win them at the end so actually there going up on the table was dependent on that match so if they had win Alanyanspor they would been in the number 4 position now.

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 26, 2023, 02:09:44 PM

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Maybe you are right because Besiktas leads in the first half with 1 goal and they are still trying to attack, but honestly before I was hesitant to put a bet on Besiktas, the first reason Besiktas lost in the last 2 matches so that it would have an impact on the mentality of the players another reason because this is an away match so I think Besiktas only played safe by targeting one point but it seems my prediction is wrong. Luckily when I checked the betting market my attention is on the total corner kick I wonder why Sportsbook only offers 9-10 corner kicks of course I don't want to miss it and bet on over 9 corner kicks well, exactly as I thought in the first half the total corner kick is 7 so I need 3 more to win my bet. If Besiktas win today then they will go up to 5th position and if Besiktas can win with a difference of 4 goals then they will be in 4th position, it seems that Besiktas is really targeting tickets for one of the places in the European League meanwhile for the Champions League there is no chance.

Besiktas haven lost twice, and going into this match away from home. The safest bet was to double chance on the opposing team and that would have been cool because Besiktas went into this match without much confidence and less of their fans making them the least favourite to win, well they really tried in holding their ground to get a draw and steal a point. Atleast it's still keeping them at the top of the table.

And that is one thing tha happens when a team isn’t in a good form, they are hard to predict. Besiktas neeeds an European spot so I believe they’ll try to get a point in this match to still remain at top 5 spot. They’re a top team with vast experience and would be able to know how to get top 5 spot and what it requires of them. So I feel they know how important it’s to get at least a point from this fixture.

Yes, in the end Besiktas was able to win this match with a narrow scored of 2:1 and currently Besiktas has moved closer to being in the top 3 and if Besiktas is able to win the next match then Besiktas can returned to being in the top 3 and continue to maintain its position so that next season it will have the opportunity to compete competition in the Europa League because Besiktas' only hope is to compete there because to place themselves in second place and compete in the Champions League will be very difficult to achieve because the points difference with Fenerbahce and Galatasaray is quite large.

Besiktas is indeed a top club in the Turkish Super League, just like Fenerbahce and Galatasaray, but unfortunately this season Besiktas is not very consistent and even seems to be having difficulty winning, in fact other clubs such as Trabzonspor and Kayserispor can beat Besiktas in terms of points and Besiktas must improve their performance to get back in the rankings 3rd place as usual is side by side with the top clubs.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 26, 2023, 02:50:47 PM

I think that this result is good for Galatasaray side anyway despite those really poor performances. At least they didn't lose this tough away match. Maybe they can turn this into their advantage if they manage to win the rematch at Rams Park but we will see. If the situation becomes like the winner of that match wins the title as well then we can at least watch a much more interesting match than this. Grin

When it comes to the Super Cup match hopefully it will be a better match than their last meet. By the way the total prize to be given to both teams is 108 million Turkish Liras. The winner is going to be given 65 million while the second is given 43 million. As the great prize is really good this must be the reason why this finale is being played in Saudi Arabia.

The reward is really good compared to previous years. Everyone complains, but no one else will give this money.
It's the same with the Turkish Cup, it doesn't mean anything for the big teams because the prize money is low.

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I think that this result is good for Galatasaray side anyway despite those really poor performances. At least they didn't lose this tough away match. Maybe they can turn this into their advantage if they manage to win the rematch at Rams Park but we will see. If the situation becomes like the winner of that match wins the title as well then we can at least watch a much more interesting match than this. Grin

When it comes to the Super Cup match hopefully it will be a better match than their last meet. By the way the total prize to be given to both teams is 108 million Turkish Liras. The winner is going to be given 65 million while the second is given 43 million. As the great prize is really good this must be the reason why this finale is being played in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on December 26, 2023, 01:54:47 PM

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According to media reports, Edin Dzeko is injured and did not train. According to some reports, he might not play in the derby on Sunday. Of course, the final situation will be known after the MRI, but the news is not very good. He is 37 years old, but he has a very good performance. He has 12 goals and 4 assists in 15 games this season. He is at the top of the scoring charts. In games without him, our offense is weakened. If he doesn't play in the derby, I think our chances against Galatasaray will decrease.

He played in the derby on Sunday and was not very productive. Not only Dzeko, but also Icardi fell short of expectations. Galatasaray away fans were allowed for the first time in 5 years. While I was expecting an interesting derby, it turned out to be a boring derby. It ended 0-0 and the leader is still Fenerbahçe. They will meet in Saudi Arabia for the Super Cup match on Friday.

A lot of people expected much more than what they should from this game and also the bookies which for over 2.5 goals had an odd of just over 1.60 meaning they expected quite some goals in this derby and that has been the case in many encounters before.From a rational point of view Fenerbahce is the team that got more from this game as they are still the leaders and they can maintain such lead by winning their games,Galatasaray has to win their games now and hope for Fenerbahce to make some mistakes during the remaining games which I see it as difficult to happen.

For the Super Cup there are other expectations and of course we may see a lot of goals in that game.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on December 26, 2023, 01:54:47 PM

Quote from: Dzigie on December 18, 2023, 06:46:12 PM

According to media reports, Edin Dzeko is injured and did not train. According to some reports, he might not play in the derby on Sunday. Of course, the final situation will be known after the MRI, but the news is not very good. He is 37 years old, but he has a very good performance. He has 12 goals and 4 assists in 15 games this season. He is at the top of the scoring charts. In games without him, our offense is weakened. If he doesn't play in the derby, I think our chances against Galatasaray will decrease.

He played in the derby on Sunday and was not very productive. Not only Dzeko, but also Icardi fell short of expectations. Galatasaray away fans were allowed for the first time in 5 years. While I was expecting an interesting derby, it turned out to be a boring derby. It ended 0-0 and the leader is still Fenerbahçe. They will meet in Saudi Arabia for the Super Cup match on Friday.

The Super Cup much is probably not as frenetic. I thought that this game is going to be crazy in the league, but during the game both teams acquired a taste for the draw. It wasn't what I expected, a fight until the last minute. The only count that went up towards the end of the game was that of yellow cards. But other than that it was extremely boring! FOr the whole game there was one single shot on target by Galatasaray, zero shots on target for Fenerbahce. I am sure that if we look into the past 50 games, this has never happened before. All the stats were really bad and the game didn't enfold the expected action.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on December 25, 2023, 01:12:56 PM

Maybe you are right because Besiktas leads in the first half with 1 goal and they are still trying to attack, but honestly before I was hesitant to put a bet on Besiktas, the first reason Besiktas lost in the last 2 matches so that it would have an impact on the mentality of the players another reason because this is an away match so I think Besiktas only played safe by targeting one point but it seems my prediction is wrong. Luckily when I checked the betting market my attention is on the total corner kick I wonder why Sportsbook only offers 9-10 corner kicks of course I don't want to miss it and bet on over 9 corner kicks well, exactly as I thought in the first half the total corner kick is 7 so I need 3 more to win my bet. If Besiktas win today then they will go up to 5th position and if Besiktas can win with a difference of 4 goals then they will be in 4th position, it seems that Besiktas is really targeting tickets for one of the places in the European League meanwhile for the Champions League there is no chance.

Besiktas haven lost twice, and going into this match away from home. The safest bet was to double chance on the opposing team and that would have been cool because Besiktas went into this match without much confidence and less of their fans making them the least favourite to win, well they really tried in holding their ground to get a draw and steal a point. Atleast it's still keeping them at the top of the table.

And that is one thing tha happens when a team isn’t in a good form, they are hard to predict. Besiktas neeeds an European spot so I believe they’ll try to get a point in this match to still remain at top 5 spot. They’re a top team with vast experience and would be able to know how to get top 5 spot and what it requires of them. So I feel they know how important it’s to get at least a point from this fixture.

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Quote from: Dzigie on December 18, 2023, 06:46:12 PM

According to media reports, Edin Dzeko is injured and did not train. According to some reports, he might not play in the derby on Sunday. Of course, the final situation will be known after the MRI, but the news is not very good. He is 37 years old, but he has a very good performance. He has 12 goals and 4 assists in 15 games this season. He is at the top of the scoring charts. In games without him, our offense is weakened. If he doesn't play in the derby, I think our chances against Galatasaray will decrease.

He played in the derby on Sunday and was not very productive. Not only Dzeko, but also Icardi fell short of expectations. Galatasaray away fans were allowed for the first time in 5 years. While I was expecting an interesting derby, it turned out to be a boring derby. It ended 0-0 and the leader is still Fenerbahçe. They will meet in Saudi Arabia for the Super Cup match on Friday.

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With the top teams getting a tie, and Besiktas finally getting a win, the funny thing is that even though the top teams are quite ahead, being third place is not really that bad for Besiktas and they are only 1 point behind that level.

If they do somehow finish third, I would say that it is not really that confusing and should be considered as one of the normal situations overall. I am not saying that they will, they may not finish third place, but they are not really that far away from it neither so it is going to be quite possible to have that as well. I think it should be considered as possibility and on a year where they already fired 3 managers (one interim) so far, and on their fourth one, the results doesn't indicate that they are THAT bad.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 25, 2023, 01:19:17 PM

After leaving a horrible derby game behind I hope that the Super Cup game between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce would be an enjoyable one to watch. Undecided

Think about a derby game in which there was only one shot on target. It is just terrible. This must be the most mediocre game between these 2 teams. The more interesting part is that this happened while both teams had their most scorers on the pitch. Fenerbahce didn't have Fred of course which affected their performance negatively also. As far as I know they won all of the games in which Fred played until now. The referee's decisions have been criticized a lot too just as I expected.

I hope it will be an enjoyable game, but I don't think so.
They made everyone watch a very bad derby and I think this one will be the same.
The only plus of the Super Cup is that someone has to win.

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Quote from: Dzigie on December 25, 2023, 05:15:27 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on December 25, 2023, 01:19:17 PM

After leaving a horrible derby game behind I hope that the Super Cup game between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce would be an enjoyable one to watch. Undecided

Think about a derby game in which there was only one shot on target. It is just terrible. This must be the most mediocre game between these 2 teams. The more interesting part is that this happened while both teams had their most scorers on the pitch. Fenerbahce didn't have Fred of course which affected their performance negatively also. As far as I know they won all of the games in which Fred played until now. The referee's decisions have been criticized a lot too just as I expected.

I was expecting both teams to play with a braver tactic in the league game because there is a compensation for the loss of points in the league matches. However, both teams played with a cautious tactic. The cup match will be a single match. Both teams should be more cautious in this match. If neither team scores at the beginning of the match, the game will be played with a cautious tactic just like the league match. Honestly, I don't expect the cup match to be different from the league match. I think the first priority for both teams will be not to concede goals.

I thought we are going to see at least one goal and then the game gets out of control, but I think this 0-0 draw contributed a lot to keep the characters on the field relatively calm. I know it was still seven yellow cards and I think that was not out of the ordinary for such a derby, but it wasn't the wildest game I have ever seen in the league. Both teams can be ok with the draw and the point. I guess Galatasaray a bit more than Fenerbahce as it was a game away from home for Galatasaray and now they know they have this second game at home in May in the final phase of the season.

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