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Quote from: MK-74 on December 22, 2023, 03:35:03 AM

Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

I think that was the right call. You can't make future plans with Rıza Çalımbay. Beşiktaş need a bigger vision. We heard Conte news but he wanted a big transfer budget so right now it looks impossible. New chairman should fix financial situation first, it's not that bad already. It's not that important if Conte or Flick or somebody else come, as long as good management happens. Beşiktaş need new players both in terms of numbers and quality. The players coming from the infrastructure are good but not enough. This team needs a leader. Chamberlain and Gedson couldn't do that for some reason.

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The Fenerbahce - Galatasaray derby is surely the most waited match of the season now. These teams have pulled away too much from the other teams already and they are in a battle for the Super League title. The points are equal but Fenerbahce are the leading team in the standings currently thanks to their goal difference.

Fenerbahce are favoured to win the match as they are the home side. But I think their job will be really difficult even if they manage to do it. I hope to see a match with many goals after watching how productive both teams have been.

For Galatasaray side Ziyech is expected to be ready to play but Sanchez's condition will be clear by the match time.

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Quote from: xzone on December 22, 2023, 02:49:40 PM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 22, 2023, 03:35:03 AM

Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

Beşiktaş is in a really bad situation this season. They are going through a difficult period, combined with the change of the team president and the inadequacy of the players, it has been a difficult season for everyone. In fact, they have the capacity to play much better, but the team's order is still not good, and for this they need a good coach.
It's always the same names coaching the same teams, I think we need to see a new coach

I agree with the new coach thing but it is also super hard to clean up this mess for a new coach who is not accustomed to the country or league. Like Valerian Ismael. But, this thing with Rıza Çalımbay was managed badly in my opinion. Everyone knows that things are bad for Beşiktaş and the coach is temporary. Noone expects miracles nor success from him. He was here to save the day. When the team got a bad result, Rıza Çalımbay should just made a statement professionally and quit or leave the club in peace. And the new president and the management also should keep thing quite. In their statement, they implied that things are bad with Çalımbay and kinda punished him. This is a slightly bad sign for the future.

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Considering Besiktas started the season with a manager, then fired that manager and got a new interim manager, then got a new manager, now fired that manager and got an interim again, and probably will find another manager, we could say that they will have 5 managers (2 interim) for the whole season. I do not know what and why causes that, but it's obvious that they did not pick a right manager to see the season off. I do not know who this new manager they fired was, but doesn't look like it was a smart move to hire him if they were firing him anyway.

Five managers in a single season is not normal, usually you hire one, and if they are bad, you fire that one, an interim stays for a short while, and then you get one that will stay until the end of the season before you fire that one, you do not fire 2 managers in span of one half of the season. If the new one does badly, will they fire that one as well? That would not make any sense at all, just stay bad until the end of the season and then fire him and get a good one.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 22, 2023, 03:35:03 AM

Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

Beşiktaş is in a really bad situation this season. They are going through a difficult period, combined with the change of the team president and the inadequacy of the players, it has been a difficult season for everyone. In fact, they have the capacity to play much better, but the team's order is still not good, and for this they need a good coach.
It's always the same names coaching the same teams, I think we need to see a new coach

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There are only 2 days left for the big derby match between Fenerbahce and Galatasaray. The home advantage is really valuable for Fenerbahce but still we never know. Because both of these teams have been really solid so far. I expect an attacking game from both sides. I'm sure about that when it comes to Fenerbahce but I guess that Okan Buruk also wouldn't like to prefer a cautious game in a critical match like this.

I think both sides will score and it feels like Galatasaray won't lose as well.

I want Fenerbahçe to win this match but it is difficult to predict the outcome of derby matches. Fred's red card in the last match is a big disadvantage for us. Dzeko started practicing with the team, this is good news for us. Also, Michy Batshuayi scored a hat trick in the last game and gained morale. He was on the bench for a long time. There is no negative news except Fred's red card in the last game. If everything goes well, maybe we can win this match. It will be an exciting and beautiful match for sure.

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Quote from: temple on December 22, 2023, 11:29:39 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on December 22, 2023, 06:33:30 AM

Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.

I am pretty sure it hurts even more when they see their rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce playing a perfect season thus far. The Europa League qualification can still be an attainable goal, but more than that is essentially not possible anymore unless Besiktas steps up their game by 1000% and the other Istanbul clubs lose consistency. But I doubt that they would drop so hard that Besiktas could make up for the difference in points that is already there.

With this current performance I am not agreed anything positive coming for the Besiktas because they are conceding too many goals and things are getting worst for them difference of points is widening, and they are still have challenging matches ahead which will not allow them to have anything positive.

At the top Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray is holding good control and no other team can compete with them for the these two spots few teams which were having good performance in middle now also facing trouble time and losing points which making things not ideal but Besiktas is surely needs to have change of strategy and bringing some improvement in defence as well which will help them for staying at their level.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 21, 2023, 04:11:31 PM

Yesterday when the Fenerbahce game ended I forgot to comment, it was a game with a lot of goals, it was a game with a lot of penalties, it was a game with a lot of red cards. It was a controversial game. so the game was tainted but despite all this Fenerbahce managed to come out with victory in this game, it was a very important victory for Fenerbahce who managed to stay at the top of the table with the same points as Galatasaray, it seems to me that this season the level of Competitiveness between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is much stronger compared to last season. We'll see how long this will last, but for now both teams must be under a lot of pressure

because they know that a defeat or draw could cost them losing the top spot and consequently not being able to win the league. With that in mind, Galatasaray, who played against Caragurumk, had difficulty scoring many goals even though they were playing against a weak team that in the last 5 games did not have very good results. It was a victory for Galatasaray thanks to the good defense they had. With this victory, Galatasaray continues with the same points as Fenerbahce, who are trying hard this season so that they can win the league

A controversial game is that of Fernabache’s like every minute had it’s own sweet times and crazy times and the fans would really enjoy this kind of game, Fernabache came out top against minor odds and this had kept them up to toe with Galatasaray . We can see how the league is improving and not just allowing one team take all the shine but 2-3 teams struggling for the top positions.

Galatasary are still not relenting and are fighting in every match securing all 3 points but I think they should beginning to conside Goal Difference as that could play a major role to determine league leaders, and am pretty sure they'll give in their all to get at the top when they face Fenerbahce on Sunday, it going to be a very tough one. Cause neither of them would want to concede and drop points.

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Quote from: ingiltere on December 21, 2023, 05:35:48 PM

If he was fit he would play but it looks like he's not ready for 90 minutes. Semih Kılıçsoy got too many chances this season but he couldn't use it wisely. I don't see him in the future squad if he keeps playing like that.
Beşiktaş got the lead but conceded 3 goals, the problem is all came from personal mistakes. You can't play like that in a Super League game constantly. Rıza Çalımbay have to punish those players. Concentration is gone. It's the manager's job to fix that. Amartey was awful today. The scoring problem continues. At least one striker and one scorer winger is needed in Winter transfer season.

I'm afraid Riza Calimbay has just got sacked by the board. The words he used after the last match must have made a big impact on this decision by the board. Things are still very shaky at Besiktas and it doesn't look like the rest of the season will get better for them either. But they can at least use this time period to find a way to recover and prepare strongly for next season.

There are only 2 days left for the big derby match between Fenerbahce and Galatasaray. The home advantage is really valuable for Fenerbahce but still we never know. Because both of these teams have been really solid so far. I expect an attacking game from both sides. I'm sure about that when it comes to Fenerbahce but I guess that Okan Buruk also wouldn't like to prefer a cautious game in a critical match like this.

I think both sides will score and it feels like Galatasaray won't lose as well.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on December 22, 2023, 06:33:30 AM

Quote from: MK-74 on December 22, 2023, 03:35:03 AM

Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.

I am pretty sure it hurts even more when they see their rivals Galatasaray and Fenerbahce playing a perfect season thus far. The Europa League qualification can still be an attainable goal, but more than that is essentially not possible anymore unless Besiktas steps up their game by 1000% and the other Istanbul clubs lose consistency. But I doubt that they would drop so hard that Besiktas could make up for the difference in points that is already there.

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Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are still quite fierce rivals to this day, both of them are equal to 43 points and both have 1 defeat and 1 draw.
Maybe in the future their competition will really be like this in the fight for the title if both of them continue to have stable and consistent playing quality, but for this season I want Fenerbahce to be able to win the title and play in the UCL.
There will be striking difference when Fenerbahce can play in the UCL next season.

Currently the focus of the two team is different because Fenerbahce plays in the Turkish Super League and European Conference League while Galatasaray is in the European League because they failed in the UCL and finished 3rd.
The two teams meet only in the Turkish League so we will not see their competition in other competitions.

It just that for this season I really want to see Fenerbahce become champions and are favorites in the Turkish League this season.

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Quote from: MK-74 on December 22, 2023, 03:35:03 AM

Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

Every manager on earth knows its nearly impossible to handle a team which was established by other managers. Pretty sure new manager for Beşiktaş will come up with very big shortlist to complete squad. This is probably causing issues because everyone knows Beşiktaş has messy financial health. I am expecting they want managers to keep low budget this winter transfer. I think they very likely expect new manager to start spending money next season to truly fix a team.

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Beşiktaş made a statement last night and parted ways with Rıza Çalımbay. I don't think anyone wants to come to this team now because they are really bad.
Beşiktaş is getting worse and worse every day.

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Quote from: flipme on December 21, 2023, 06:04:50 PM

Beşiktaş lost to Alanyaspor at home today. They already have a bad performance this season. They have already had a lot of bad results so far. But after coach Riza Calimbay took charge, they started to get worse results. I think they should sign a better coach for the second half of the season.

I am sure that Fenerbahce and Galatasaray like very much what is happening behind them where the teams are dropping points frequently. They are miles ahead of everyone else with their remarkable performances.

No doubt that everyone is now looking forward to this amazing clash between the best two teams in the league. I hope this will be one of those games that the league is well known for. Wink

I think everything is possible for this game, but I hope it doesn't get out of control and ends in some sad way as we have more often seen in recent times.

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Beşiktaş lost to Alanyaspor at home today. They already have a bad performance this season. They have already had a lot of bad results so far. But after coach Riza Calimbay took charge, they started to get worse results. I think they should sign a better coach for the second half of the season.

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Beşiktaş suffered a great defeat at home tonight.
The game became 3-1 from 1-0, there is still something not going well in Beşiktaş.
I hope they recover as soon as possible.

Çaykur Rizespor won differently tonight. They beat Pendikspor 5-1.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 21, 2023, 02:45:37 PM

While Besiktas have Rashica in the squad why wouldn't they like to have him in the starting eleven? There was a youngster named Semih Kilicsoy on the left wing but got replaced by Rashica in the 71st minute.

I know Rashica was injured but it looks like he was able to play today. Maybe Riza Calimbay didn't want to trigger his injury again by giving him a lot of time to play in this match. The score is still 1-1 and Besiktas are still desperate to score despite being the dominant side. They are just bad at finding the target and I don't know if they can score the winner like this.

If he was fit he would play but it looks like he's not ready for 90 minutes. Semih Kılıçsoy got too many chances this season but he couldn't use it wisely. I don't see him in the future squad if he keeps playing like that.
Beşiktaş got the lead but conceded 3 goals, the problem is all came from personal mistakes. You can't play like that in a Super League game constantly. Rıza Çalımbay have to punish those players. Concentration is gone. It's the manager's job to fix that. Amartey was awful today. The scoring problem continues. At least one striker and one scorer winger is needed in Winter transfer season.

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Yesterday when the Fenerbahce game ended I forgot to comment, it was a game with a lot of goals, it was a game with a lot of penalties, it was a game with a lot of red cards. It was a controversial game. so the game was tainted but despite all this Fenerbahce managed to come out with victory in this game, it was a very important victory for Fenerbahce who managed to stay at the top of the table with the same points as Galatasaray, it seems to me that this season the level of Competitiveness between Galatasaray and Fenerbahce is much stronger compared to last season. We'll see how long this will last, but for now both teams must be under a lot of pressure

because they know that a defeat or draw could cost them losing the top spot and consequently not being able to win the league. With that in mind, Galatasaray, who played against Caragurumk, had difficulty scoring many goals even though they were playing against a weak team that in the last 5 games did not have very good results. It was a victory for Galatasaray thanks to the good defense they had. With this victory, Galatasaray continues with the same points as Fenerbahce, who are trying hard this season so that they can win the league

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Quote from: beerlover on December 21, 2023, 02:16:41 PM

Turns out he said "stupid" that's the report. I think a second yellow card (nearly the same result) would have been fine for that, but when you consider that a player who is already winning and it's 90+ additional time period, Fred knows he should not be still arguing with the ref. He was aware what he was doing, and he was aware that he was looking to get a second yellow card.

I think pastor did what he did for christmas, he was like that back at premier league and still same thing happened. I do not know how christmas is in turkey, but I assume he would leave for brazil and go back to his family, so it doesn't even matter. I know Turkey is a muslim nation but they do seem to have a lot of players and people who are christians as well, so maybe he will stay, I do not know to be fair.

If truly Fred said stupid then I think the ref was right in giving him the 2nd yellow, cause is very unprofessional to use a foul word on another player while on the pitch, Football is a mean of entertainment that can be used to promote peace and not for violence therefore as a professional player, one needs to be mindful of their actions and choices of words while on the pitch, he should've been aware of his 1st booking and try to avoid another one.

Now look what his careless act has caused his team, they'll be playing against one of the toughest team in the league and therefore they'll all the strength from all areas of the squad, the absence of Fred would be an advantage to their opponents, cause Fred is one of their key players this season, well I'm not quite sure if Fred purposely attracted the booking to himself to be available for Christmas, however he'll really be missed by the squad.

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While Besiktas have Rashica in the squad why wouldn't they like to have him in the starting eleven? There was a youngster named Semih Kilicsoy on the left wing but got replaced by Rashica in the 71st minute.

I know Rashica was injured but it looks like he was able to play today. Maybe Riza Calimbay didn't want to trigger his injury again by giving him a lot of time to play in this match. The score is still 1-1 and Besiktas are still desperate to score despite being the dominant side. They are just bad at finding the target and I don't know if they can score the winner like this.

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