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November 17, 2023, 04:39:27 PM
Today, Beşiktaş's presidential candidate Hasan Arat made his launch and revealed his vision. If he can deliver even half of what he promises, the club will take off. The key to sportive success is sustainable revenues and solid infrastructure. For this reason, he explained everything very well, from real estate projects to new sports halls, from stadium improvements to infrastructure investments. I hope he becomes the president of Beşiktaş in the new era and defends the rights of the club. Unfortunately, we are faced with very large gangs, we need to have a strong lobby to deal with them. Türkiye's biggest club should no longer be expected to remain weak against these gangs.
I feel very sad when I see the situation of Beşiktaş, one of the biggest clubs in Turkey, in the Conference league. I think there is no need to say anything else to understand that the management is mismanaging. When the management changes, I would like Beşiktaş to have important names and especially someone who can bring it to a better place financially.
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November 17, 2023, 04:31:40 PM
It is obvious that teams who are not in the euro zone or even if they are but not rich as the five big leagues, will not be able to compete all that well. We are talking about a nation that has 30 to 1 ratio on their currency, their finances are not great, the whole champions of the league gets like a few million euro at most, how could you build a team for just a few million euro per year? That's not enough for even one players salary, a single player makes three times that in the clubs that win the title, it's obvious that financial situation is not good with any of these teams.

So what do they have to do? Smart ones will find players, make them play at Europe as much as they can, and sell them, if you get a whole squad showing itself constantly at Europe (doesn't matter if it's conference or europa or UCL but UCL would be better obviously) then other teams will see your player and buy them, get them for 5, sell them for 15, you just made bank. That's a good move these teams should do.
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November 17, 2023, 04:02:13 PM

Fenerbahce have really been in a good form this season compared to last season though they weren't too bad last season as they finished second. This season they need to continue in this great form and for the fact that they've been scoring more goals in most of their matches will really help them alot, for now they are in same points with Galatassary but Fenerbahce is leading them far on goal difference. Teams that tends to score more goals are most likely to win their matches because if you have good forwards that can finish well by scoring goals then there will really be chances of winning matches.
Fenerbahçe is performing very brilliant this season, they really strengthened their squad depth with several players that are experienced with major league tournaments and it's helped them to be successful so far in the league, they really tried to maintain the top of the standings up till week 12 and I believe they'll continue to top even after the international break cause their next match is against Fatih Karagūmrūk who are in the 12th position moreover Fenerbahçe would be playing in their home game.

 They're a very strong league contenders this season and their only threat for the title race is Galatasaray that's sharing same points with them currently, therefore they have to be very careful when they meet Fatih Karagūmrūk after the break so as not to drop points like they did when they drew against Adana Demirspor, also they need to win with a very good margin since they're leading Galatasaray with goal difference.
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November 17, 2023, 03:50:04 PM
Fenerbahçe started like this last season and finished the league badly. Fenerbahçe always has this problem, they can't find a solution to this problem.
This year the league will be really competitive, Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are the favorites this year.

Fenerbahce have really been in a good form this season compared to last season though they weren't too bad last season as they finished second. This season they need to continue in this great form and for the fact that they've been scoring more goals in most of their matches will really help them alot, for now they are in same points with Galatassary but Fenerbahce is leading them far on goal difference. Teams that tends to score more goals are most likely to win their matches because if you have good forwards that can finish well by scoring goals then there will really be chances of winning matches.
Although it seems positive that they score more goals, they have not played a match against each other yet and everything depends on these matches. Probably the points will be almost the same until this derby and the team that will take the lead in that match will be determined. Both teams are very strong. Let's see who will win at the end of the year.
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November 17, 2023, 03:44:51 PM
Today, Beşiktaş's presidential candidate Hasan Arat made his launch and revealed his vision. If he can deliver even half of what he promises, the club will take off. The key to sportive success is sustainable revenues and solid infrastructure. For this reason, he explained everything very well, from real estate projects to new sports halls, from stadium improvements to infrastructure investments. I hope he becomes the president of Beşiktaş in the new era and defends the rights of the club. Unfortunately, we are faced with very large gangs, we need to have a strong lobby to deal with them. Türkiye's biggest club should no longer be expected to remain weak against these gangs.
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November 17, 2023, 03:12:18 PM
Fenerbahçe started like this last season and finished the league badly. Fenerbahçe always has this problem, they can't find a solution to this problem.
This year the league will be really competitive, Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are the favorites this year.

Fenerbahce have really been in a good form this season compared to last season though they weren't too bad last season as they finished second. This season they need to continue in this great form and for the fact that they've been scoring more goals in most of their matches will really help them alot, for now they are in same points with Galatassary but Fenerbahce is leading them far on goal difference. Teams that tends to score more goals are most likely to win their matches because if you have good forwards that can finish well by scoring goals then there will really be chances of winning matches.
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November 17, 2023, 02:54:32 PM
A lot of teams always claim the have financial problems, and that can be true or false depending on who is spoken, i see a lot of times when someone said that and right after they spend a lot of money on the next marketransfer. For me the number one problem for turkish teams is they dont have good young players to sell, so you allways are buying players.

It's true, Türkiye has not been producing talented football players in recent years. We see that a few players are transferred to other countries every year, but when we look at the league now, we see the predominance of foreign players in most of the successful teams.
The number of young and successful Turkish football players needs to increase as soon as possible, and the quality of the league can increase in this way Smiley
Unfortunately, young players are not given enough opportunities in Turkey. There is also the example of Merih Demiral. As a young Turk who started in the Fenerbahçe infrastructure and made decisions trying to improve his own career, he was able to reach good places today. If Merih had stayed in the Fenerbahçe infrastructure, he would probably have faded away.
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November 17, 2023, 02:41:17 PM
I would also like to see more talented players starting to be grown in our country in the future. We need to attach importance to this matter very much in my opinion. Because we have a foreign rule which changes quite often. We don't know what will happen in the future. If it is decided upon a limited number of foreing player usage then especially big teams would be in a lot of trouble.

If a youth setup of a team is strong they would never be affected negatively by such changes. They shouldn't focus on only bringing talented foreign players now.

I know that they are doing it for especially European tournaments which I really understand. But they shouldn't overlook their youth setup on one hand to be ready for the future too.
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November 17, 2023, 01:24:57 PM
A lot of teams always claim the have financial problems, and that can be true or false depending on who is spoken, i see a lot of times when someone said that and right after they spend a lot of money on the next marketransfer. For me the number one problem for turkish teams is they dont have good young players to sell, so you allways are buying players.

It's true, Türkiye has not been producing talented football players in recent years. We see that a few players are transferred to other countries every year, but when we look at the league now, we see the predominance of foreign players in most of the successful teams.
The number of young and successful Turkish football players needs to increase as soon as possible, and the quality of the league can increase in this way Smiley
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November 17, 2023, 10:02:57 AM
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I guess you could say that about almost any club in the soccer world that they are financially in a bad condition, but I think I have heard that for Besiktas it was a bit harder than for others when the Covid pandemic hit. But I can't recall all the details and also can't find too much on the Internet. But it sometimes feels that Turkey was more popular for some very good players years ago than it is now. Is it just a wrong feeling or have there been more stars in the past than there are today?

Better players came in the past, namely star players. There are not many star players in our league right now, there are very good players in Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe, but I don't think Beşiktaş has any of them.

Beşiktaş fans wanted only 1 player from Beşiktaş but they couldn't get him because the team's financial situation was not good.

despite Turkey being a European country and much richer than some of the other European countries, as long as the government does not develop a policy that allows them to enter the European Union and then adopt similar strategies to European countries in relation to football, then I doubt It is very important that Turkey has a strong league so soon that it attracts good famous players who are still young, what I have seen are good players who are still starting their careers and as they did not get opportunities in the best European leagues, they stay in the Turkish league or else the cases of players considered old in the big European leagues who move to play in the Turkish league to retire

It's a dire scenario, not to mention that Turkish teams haven't been able to get far in the European Champions League, things become sadder when you have a scenario in which the team considered the strongest in the league, Galatasaray, has a market value compared to the worst team in the premier league

https://www.transfermarkt.com/galatasaray-istanbul/startseite/verein/141

which is currently Burnley FC

https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-burnley/startseite/verein/1132

Honestly, I need the guys who run the league to seriously start thinking about making the league much more competitive so that all teams have decent market values. I really admire how countries like England, Italy and Spain have managed football, even second and third division teams manage to have many fans who fill the fields.
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November 17, 2023, 08:20:14 AM
Fenerbahçe looked really promising in the first half by a huge domination. But it was in vain I'm afraid. After not being able to score a single goal they wasted a huge opportunity to win there. Adana Demirspor looked way worse than I expected in the first half. They should be really grateful that they didn't concede any goal.

This was Fenerbahçe's 3rd point loss in a row together with the Europa League. Everything started to go upside down after a lasting winning streak. But still I see it as not a big deal thinking that they would improve their game again.
Fenerbahçe is one of the important teams of the Turkish Super League and is one of the two teams with the possibility of championship in the league this year, along with Galatasaray. After losing a few points, we can say that a difficult period has begun for Fenerbahçe. Psychologically, it is very important for players to remain resilient. If the players maintain their standards, they can achieve winning streaks again. The two points they lost in the Adana Demirspor match were very bad because Galatasaray lost 3 points this week.

Fenerbahçe started like this last season and finished the league badly. Fenerbahçe always has this problem, they can't find a solution to this problem.
This year the league will be really competitive, Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe are the favorites this year.
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November 17, 2023, 02:04:06 AM
Fenerbahçe looked really promising in the first half by a huge domination. But it was in vain I'm afraid. After not being able to score a single goal they wasted a huge opportunity to win there. Adana Demirspor looked way worse than I expected in the first half. They should be really grateful that they didn't concede any goal.

This was Fenerbahçe's 3rd point loss in a row together with the Europa League. Everything started to go upside down after a lasting winning streak. But still I see it as not a big deal thinking that they would improve their game again.
Fenerbahçe is one of the important teams of the Turkish Super League and is one of the two teams with the possibility of championship in the league this year, along with Galatasaray. After losing a few points, we can say that a difficult period has begun for Fenerbahçe. Psychologically, it is very important for players to remain resilient. If the players maintain their standards, they can achieve winning streaks again. The two points they lost in the Adana Demirspor match were very bad because Galatasaray lost 3 points this week.
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November 17, 2023, 01:54:52 AM
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I guess you could say that about almost any club in the soccer world that they are financially in a bad condition, but I think I have heard that for Besiktas it was a bit harder than for others when the Covid pandemic hit. But I can't recall all the details and also can't find too much on the Internet. But it sometimes feels that Turkey was more popular for some very good players years ago than it is now. Is it just a wrong feeling or have there been more stars in the past than there are today?

Better players came in the past, namely star players. There are not many star players in our league right now, there are very good players in Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe, but I don't think Beşiktaş has any of them.

Beşiktaş fans wanted only 1 player from Beşiktaş but they couldn't get him because the team's financial situation was not good.
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November 16, 2023, 05:52:21 PM
Fenerbahçe looked really promising in the first half by a huge domination. But it was in vain I'm afraid. After not being able to score a single goal they wasted a huge opportunity to win there. Adana Demirspor looked way worse than I expected in the first half. They should be really grateful that they didn't concede any goal.

This was Fenerbahçe's 3rd point loss in a row together with the Europa League. Everything started to go upside down after a lasting winning streak. But still I see it as not a big deal thinking that they would improve their game again.
The goalless draw between Adana Demirspor and Fenerbahce in their last league game was the first game that Fenerbahce failed to score since the start if the season. They've been very impressive this season and where the first club in the Turkish Super Lig to win 10 games this season but unfortunately for the first runner's up of the league title last season, they've not won in their last two league games. I believe the team is gonna bounce back to winning immediately after the  FIFA international break because they know that Galatasaray will seize every little opportunity they get to top them in the league standings if Fenerbahce drop more points again
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November 16, 2023, 05:44:06 PM
Adanademirsport looks to be third in the league, I knew that Besiktas was the third biggest because I follow them on transfermarkt, the whole league, and see the values of the clubs, seems like Besiktas has been on a rot recently and not doing all that well.


Beşiktaş is very bad this year because there were no transfers to the team. The management brought the wrong players to the team.
It would be very good for Beşiktaş to finish the league in 3rd place this year.

I can't remember exactly where I read it or heard about it, but wasn't Besiktas in a complicated financial situation not long ago? I am not sure, but it is indeed true that not much has happened during the last transfer window, or at least not much that would have meant an improvement to their team. But it looks quite bad because Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are doing extraordinarily well. If the table was closer, it wouldn't be as obvious.

I know that Beşiktaş's financial situation has never been good. Beşiktaş always has financial problems. They cannot spend a lot of money during transfer periods. This is what I know, it may be wrong.

I guess you could say that about almost any club in the soccer world that they are financially in a bad condition, but I think I have heard that for Besiktas it was a bit harder than for others when the Covid pandemic hit. But I can't recall all the details and also can't find too much on the Internet. But it sometimes feels that Turkey was more popular for some very good players years ago than it is now. Is it just a wrong feeling or have there been more stars in the past than there are today?
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November 16, 2023, 10:24:49 AM
A lot of teams always claim the have financial problems, and that can be true or false depending on who is spoken, i see a lot of times when someone said that and right after they spend a lot of money on the next marketransfer. For me the number one problem for turkish teams is they dont have good young players to sell, so you allways are buying players.
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November 16, 2023, 02:33:03 AM
Adanademirsport looks to be third in the league, I knew that Besiktas was the third biggest because I follow them on transfermarkt, the whole league, and see the values of the clubs, seems like Besiktas has been on a rot recently and not doing all that well.


Beşiktaş is very bad this year because there were no transfers to the team. The management brought the wrong players to the team.
It would be very good for Beşiktaş to finish the league in 3rd place this year.

I can't remember exactly where I read it or heard about it, but wasn't Besiktas in a complicated financial situation not long ago? I am not sure, but it is indeed true that not much has happened during the last transfer window, or at least not much that would have meant an improvement to their team. But it looks quite bad because Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are doing extraordinarily well. If the table was closer, it wouldn't be as obvious.

I know that Beşiktaş's financial situation has never been good. Beşiktaş always has financial problems. They cannot spend a lot of money during transfer periods. This is what I know, it may be wrong.
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November 15, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
For Besiktas to finish the league at the 3rd position at least they need to replace their chairman immediately. The election is expected to take place on November 26. If Besiktas have a chairman who is really good at doing his job then the recovery process would start at once. Because this team aren't weak normally.

Yes maybe they couldn't keep up with Galatasaray and Fenerbahce in the previous transfer window. This was also the chairman's fault of course and he couldn't come up with an explanation as well. But their current squad is still good enough to finish at the 3rd position at least. With the right management they can do it.
Yeah, it's clear that some teams have some good years and some teams have some bad years. Similar to Galatasaray, who was terrible just a few years ago, and now looks like the best team in the league, doesn't mean that it can't be fixed. Besiktas could have some bad year or years, but it doesn't mean it can't be fixed, just sell the players you dislike, and spend some money on getting unwanted good players, and you will be fine.

Look at how galatasaray got better, getting Icardi who wasn't liked at PSG, getting Ziyech who chelsea wants to get rid of so badly that they are willing to let him go for free, getting Sanchez and Ndombele because they were cheap and not that great at their club and replaced. Basically, you need to get players that are still good, but have better players at their position, that should be an important thing for teams to get better in the end, that will definitely help them get better in the end. Besiktas could do that too.
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November 15, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
For Besiktas to finish the league at the 3rd position at least they need to replace their chairman immediately. The election is expected to take place on November 26. If Besiktas have a chairman who is really good at doing his job then the recovery process would start at once. Because this team aren't weak normally.

Yes maybe they couldn't keep up with Galatasaray and Fenerbahce in the previous transfer window. This was also the chairman's fault of course and he couldn't come up with an explanation as well. But their current squad is still good enough to finish at the 3rd position at least. With the right management they can do it.
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November 15, 2023, 02:42:56 PM
Beşiktaş is very bad this year because there were no transfers to the team. The management brought the wrong players to the team.
It would be very good for Beşiktaş to finish the league in 3rd place this year.
Finishing 3rd? I don't think so because the coach and the players will enforced their energy to start winning games to fall back to significant position. Poor performance in league games is what you get when a team signs completely the wrong players this summer, these players are impotent in games and unable to produce the expected results required. Beşiktaş in terrible shape this season but it's not a straight answer that they won't bounce back to good shape this season. There's time for transformation, Beşiktaş might just be experience some difficult but there's full hope for obtaining better results.
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