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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 29, 2024, 07:26:07 AM

Today Hasan Arat officially resigned from the office. It was a very early departure. He was rumored to have health problems, so there was no point in him resisting this pressure any longer. Things are not going well at Beşiktaş but I find the fans' reaction excessive. We have seen much worse times. We have seen presidents clinging to their seats. We have seen presidents who left the club in debt. Hasan Arat didn't last long. There should have been a long-term planning, but it didn't happen. I hope everything will be better from now on. There is no presidential election at the moment. We will manage like this until the end of this season.

This had to happen. Things had been going badly for Beşiktaş lately.
Someone had to be punished for the defeats and draws.
They lost their grip on Europe and the Super League, Beşiktaş's one year has been a waste.
The team needs to restructure, many players need to be sent out of the team.

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Today Hasan Arat officially resigned from the office. It was a very early departure. He was rumored to have health problems, so there was no point in him resisting this pressure any longer. Things are not going well at Beşiktaş but I find the fans' reaction excessive. We have seen much worse times. We have seen presidents clinging to their seats. We have seen presidents who left the club in debt. Hasan Arat didn't last long. There should have been a long-term planning, but it didn't happen. I hope everything will be better from now on. There is no presidential election at the moment. We will manage like this until the end of this season.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 27, 2024, 05:45:49 PM

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By the way Beşiktaş chairman Hasan Arat has officially resigned from his job. Probably the fans weren't expecting such thing to happen very quickly. However interesting things came to light after this news. Samet Aybaba and Friedel got sacked too. It turned out that Beşiktaş wasn't making wage payments regularly either.

These days are going on really interesting for Beşiktaş. Having this big change in the middle of the season might make things harder for them.

In order to get out of the crisis, Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Hatayspor games must be won first and foremost. Then the Fenerbahçe derby will play a very important role. If these matches are not won, there will be no need to even talk about the derby. I think the team will react now, they have to.

Beşiktaş will play Maccabi Tel-Aviv tonight, normally they should win this game very comfortably, but Beşiktaş doesn't inspire confidence anymore.
Beşiktaş has 2 easy games in front of them, if they win these games I think the fans will calm down, but if they lose, things will be even more difficult.
I think they will lose points again in one of these two matches.

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Galatasaray continues to perform optimally here and in other competitions, for the Europa League they can be one of the best by occupying 3rd, this is different from Fenerbahce and Besiktas there because they look difficult and have to fight in middle position that allows them to enter the play-off round.
I started to think whether there will be the ability and opportunity for Galatasaray to compete for the Europa League title this season and become Turkish team that is able to achieve success in Europe, indeed if they continue to play well and show development then all of that can be obtained, what do you think will Galatasaray be able to reach the final or not.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 27, 2024, 04:12:29 PM

By the way Beşiktaş chairman Hasan Arat has officially resigned from his job. Probably the fans weren't expecting such thing to happen very quickly. However interesting things came to light after this news. Samet Aybaba and Friedel got sacked too. It turned out that Beşiktaş wasn't making wage payments regularly either.

These days are going on really interesting for Beşiktaş. Having this big change in the middle of the season might make things harder for them.

Hasan Arat didn't leave the presidency. He withdrew from Futbol AŞ. Hüseyin Yücel the second president, took charge of Futbol AŞ. I think he is saying don't involve me in football matters. There's too much confusion, explanations are not clear, but if sportive success comes back on the field, these things will be forgotten. If the salaries are not paid, it's normal to have unrest in the team, but the players should've given their all when they took the field.

In order to get out of the crisis, Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Hatayspor games must be won first and foremost. Then the Fenerbahçe derby will play a very important role. If these matches are not won, there will be no need to even talk about the derby. I think the team will react now, they have to.

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By the way Beşiktaş chairman Hasan Arat has officially resigned from his job. Probably the fans weren't expecting such thing to happen very quickly. However interesting things came to light after this news. Samet Aybaba and Friedel got sacked too. It turned out that Beşiktaş wasn't making wage payments regularly either.

These days are going on really interesting for Beşiktaş. Having this big change in the middle of the season might make things harder for them.

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Quote from: Hvdv on November 26, 2024, 01:04:27 PM

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I also see that the referees in the Super League make decisions in favor of Galatasaray. If such situations continue, the other teams will have no chance anyway. Beşiktaş will continue to fight for second place because the second team has a chance of going to the Champions League.

The criticism about the referees is funny to me. I am a Beşiktaş fan and I am not a fanatic. I think Beşiktaş play bad football. Some fanatic fans talk about the referees because they cannot evaluate their team objectively...

When we look at the European matches, we see that Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş got bad results. Are the referees manipulating the matches there too? :)

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on November 26, 2024, 03:53:49 PM

With Besiktas basically out of the title chase, we once again have only two teams that can win it this year, which is basically same as last year, and pretty much same as year before that as well. I cannot really say about that during 2021-2022 because Besiktas wasn't totally out there, but last season and this season has been pretty similar.

Fenerbahce and Galatasaray will fight, even though Galatasaray is ahead right now, with one loss anything could change, so we can't really see who will win it this year just yet. Mourinho is a wonderful manager, hasn't been that awesome lately I agree, but he is doing fine so far and I believe they could still make a comeback, I am not saying they will, but the possibility is there.

When we look at it from Galatasaray's perspective, I think they have a much greater advantage over Fenerbahçe. Mauro Icardi is injured, which will affect them badly. However, they have a magnificent diamond in their hands: Osimhen. After he is on this team, Galatasaray will not have a level where they will have problems in terms of forwards. If he stays in Galatasaray until the end of the year and does not transfer during the mid-season, Galatasaray can finish the season as champions. However, if he is transferred to a Premier League team during the mid-season, the problems they will experience in the forward area may cause trouble for Galatasaray. In this case, Fenerbahçe may seem to have the advantage. However, I am sure that this race will turn into a championship fight between these two teams.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on November 26, 2024, 03:53:49 PM

With Besiktas basically out of the title chase, we once again have only two teams that can win it this year, which is basically same as last year, and pretty much same as year before that as well. I cannot really say about that during 2021-2022 because Besiktas wasn't totally out there, but last season and this season has been pretty similar.

Fenerbahce and Galatasaray will fight, even though Galatasaray is ahead right now, with one loss anything could change, so we can't really see who will win it this year just yet. Mourinho is a wonderful manager, hasn't been that awesome lately I agree, but he is doing fine so far and I believe they could still make a comeback, I am not saying they will, but the possibility is there.

I wouldn't talk so confidently. There will probably be big changes in Beşiktaş tomorrow. According to the insider information I received, there will be resignations in the management.
Although Beşiktaş is currently far behind in terms of points, after these changes, if they enter the Winter break with their wounds healed, they can compete again with 2-3 on point transfers. It should be taken into account that the opponents won't win all their matches and will lose points as well. Especially when you look at the last 6 matches, Beşiktaş has the most advantage. If they win the Fenerbahçe derby, they can make it six out of six. Opponents are almost certain to lose points in this period.

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With Besiktas basically out of the title chase, we once again have only two teams that can win it this year, which is basically same as last year, and pretty much same as year before that as well. I cannot really say about that during 2021-2022 because Besiktas wasn't totally out there, but last season and this season has been pretty similar.

Fenerbahce and Galatasaray will fight, even though Galatasaray is ahead right now, with one loss anything could change, so we can't really see who will win it this year just yet. Mourinho is a wonderful manager, hasn't been that awesome lately I agree, but he is doing fine so far and I believe they could still make a comeback, I am not saying they will, but the possibility is there.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on November 26, 2024, 02:28:22 PM

When a bad team plays even worse team, that could be start of a recovery for them. Trabzonspor winning 5-0 means that even though that game was against some weak team, that still gave them some morale, they still felt great afterwards I can guarantee you that.

Increasing the confidence of the players is great, plus they can now understand how they should be playing against everyone, they failed to do that so far because they faced good teams, but now that they played against a weak team, they saw what the "idea" of their playstyle should be, and will try that against stronger opponents as well, doesn't mean they will win but at least they will play better and have a better chance. Lets see how this will move on, it is going to be great without a doubt.

Of course it is a huge win and it can be some motivation for a recovery theoretically. However I can't trust Trabzonspor much about that this season. Tongue

Because they are really having a hard time. They had a bad run with Abdullah Avcı first. Then they brought back Şenol Güneş to the club and believed he would make the players stand up and fight. But he also can't do it.

In my opinion, there is something else behind the scenes. Trabzonspor have potential to be a fighter in top places in fact. But they have lost many points meaninglessly.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on November 26, 2024, 02:28:22 PM

When a bad team plays even worse team, that could be start of a recovery for them. Trabzonspor winning 5-0 means that even though that game was against some weak team, that still gave them some morale, they still felt great afterwards I can guarantee you that.

Increasing the confidence of the players is great, plus they can now understand how they should be playing against everyone, they failed to do that so far because they faced good teams, but now that they played against a weak team, they saw what the "idea" of their playstyle should be, and will try that against stronger opponents as well, doesn't mean they will win but at least they will play better and have a better chance. Lets see how this will move on, it is going to be great without a doubt.

Trabzonspor has always been considered one of the strongest teams in Turkey. The team they play against, Adana Demirspor, is known for the back-to-back defeats they have suffered as a team that has been struggling with economic crises recently. Trabzonspor gained significant motivation and relief by winning five goals against this opponent. Considering the responsibility the coach has taken after unsuccessful matches, this victory for Trabzonspor has also relieved the coach a little. However, it should also be said that Trabzonspor has been far from expectations for the past two years. While we dream of a Trabzonspor that will play for the championship, the fans only see a Trabzonspor that is trying to qualify for European tournaments. There is a Trabzonspor that has played unsuccessful matches and been eliminated after going to Europe. In this respect, Trabzonspor must now improve itself.

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When a bad team plays even worse team, that could be start of a recovery for them. Trabzonspor winning 5-0 means that even though that game was against some weak team, that still gave them some morale, they still felt great afterwards I can guarantee you that.

Increasing the confidence of the players is great, plus they can now understand how they should be playing against everyone, they failed to do that so far because they faced good teams, but now that they played against a weak team, they saw what the "idea" of their playstyle should be, and will try that against stronger opponents as well, doesn't mean they will win but at least they will play better and have a better chance. Lets see how this will move on, it is going to be great without a doubt.

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Quote from: trendcoin on November 25, 2024, 12:54:15 PM

Beşiktaş signed a good manager and made some good player transfers at the beginning of the season, but they failed to become a good team. Rafa Silva gave them 3 points in some matches with his individual skills. Immobile did it in some games. Gedson Fernandes did extra work and was a key player in some matches. However, when the opponents started to take precautions against them, the team started to lose points. Unfortunately, some fans are already talking about Beşiktaş losing the league...

When Beşiktaş crushed Galatasaray in the Super Cup at the beginning of this year, I thought they were one of the favorites to win the league, but after suffering a surprise defeat in the league, Beşiktaş's chances of winning the championship have decreased a lot. Frankly, it is not realistic to think that Galatasaray will lose points. Therefore, the chances of other teams, other than Galatasaray, to win the championship are very low. I also see that the referees in the Super League make decisions in favor of Galatasaray. If such situations continue, the other teams will have no chance anyway. Beşiktaş will continue to fight for second place because the second team has a chance of going to the Champions League.

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Quote from: boltz on November 23, 2024, 04:44:15 PM

I swear Turkish championship is so wild that I cannot simply understand what is going on sometimes. First , can they stop with those 10 minutes extra time almost every game ? ;D can they also stop taking a lot of red cards almost every weekend ? and last one , can they score in 1st half please ?:)) cause I had 3 consecutive tickets on Turkey and Turkey League 1 with over 1.5 goals in 1st half and none of them hit ;D ;D

Long extra time was introduced in the last World Cup. From there, it was transferred to our league. Also, in recent years, the Turkish league has become a league where physical competence is more important than technical skills. That's why the game stops a bit too much and the extra time gets longer. If you are going to make a goal prediction bet for Turkish league matches, I recommend you to do it for the matches of teams like Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe. The matches of the other teams sometimes resemble wrestling matches with no result... :)

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 24, 2024, 05:13:46 PM

Another horrible result for Beşiktaş... I was shocked to see them losing their 2-0 score advantage home and losing by 2-4 against Göztepe. I know Göztepe were doing good this season but still I didn't give them a chance to win there. I don't think Beşiktaş played good at all. Göztepe had many more goal attempts and shots on goal both.

Beşiktaş conceded 9 goals in their last 4 games while maintaining their streak without a win. Sad

I believe the squad is really not qualified enough and there is no squad depth either. van Bronckhorst has a tough work to do.

It has been a very disappointing run this season for besiktas despite the fact that they have a good coach, I think one of the problems they are facing this season is a weak defense, they concede a lot of goals which makes it difficult for them to get back into the game, though they played against a very good team but I wasn't expecting them to concede this much at home. They have to wake up and smell the coffee, they need to reduce their goal deficit by ensuring that the number of goals they concede per game is reduced to the barest minimal, at least this would be a good start towards recovery for besiktas.

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Quote from: satscraper on November 26, 2024, 03:58:11 AM

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Trabzonspor's bad run this year is obvious. The fact that they beat Adana Demirspor 5-0 doesn't mean much because Adana Demirspor is currently in the 1st League level, not in the Super League level. They are so bad that their relegation will be guaranteed very early. It's not easy for foreigners to understand how a team that once struggled to qualify for the European Cups has fallen so far. But in football in Türkiye, under the shadow of dirty politics, such things make perfect sense, because it happens all the time and everyone accepts such things as normal.

Trabzonspor is not the last name in Super League. Sure this season statistics is not in their favor but they are bound to contain themselves in the the League. They dominated at Papara Park and their successful shots to Demirspor's gate proved team's potential. However they have to remain sober and not to be win-happy because the hot opponents are still waiting for them.

The only reason why they do not play well is because of their poor record and style of play but the recently play match is the news of their victory as their player won the match by score 5 goal. If they play with such perform in the next matches, they can probably take their name up.They are try to improve themselves and be include in this league and this is the desire of every team but with hard work and dedication some team plays But I feel after win this match that they will prove themselves. It a pity for them because strong teams can always beat them and weak them again But they should strength themselves and win the next match.

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Cham, who scored 3 goals and 2 assists for Trabzonspor, was the star of the match. The biggest contribution to this performance belongs to Adana Demirspor. There are 12 matches left in the league, there are still more matches, but Adana Demirspor's players have already psychologically relegated to the lower league.
The most striking incident in the 3rd goal scored by Trabzonspor was Yusuf Sarı watching the situation with his hands and arms after losing the ball. If I were the management, I would expel this player from the team immediately.
Because there is a team going to the lower league. I give time to young players from the youth team in the starting eleven.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on November 26, 2024, 03:28:46 AM

Trabzonspor's bad run this year is obvious. The fact that they beat Adana Demirspor 5-0 doesn't mean much because Adana Demirspor is currently in the 1st League level, not in the Super League level. They are so bad that their relegation will be guaranteed very early. It's not easy for foreigners to understand how a team that once struggled to qualify for the European Cups has fallen so far. But in football in Türkiye, under the shadow of dirty politics, such things make perfect sense, because it happens all the time and everyone accepts such things as normal.
One more thing for Trabzonspor, the improved performances of Cham and Banza are something tangible for them. Other than that, they don't have much ambition this season. They will try to get better, as much as they can. They have no power to win anything.

Trabzonspor is not the last name in Super League. Sure this season statistics is not in their favor but they are bound to contain themselves in the the League. They dominated at Papara Park and their successful shots to Demirspor's gate proved team's potential. However they have to remain sober and not to be win-happy because the hot opponents are still waiting for them.

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Quote from: MK-74 on November 26, 2024, 02:25:17 AM

Trabzonspor got its 3rd win in the league, beating the weakest team of the league 5-0.
Things were not going well for Trabzonspor, this win may turn the team around.

I think Adana Demirspor is the first team to be relegated this season, they got only 2 points in 12 games.

Adana Demirspor has already lost hope on this season because they have fallen to the extend that they cannot bring themselves up, imagine a club playing 12 matches and not even one match to boldly say they have won instead they lose almost all of them and draw just 2, actually with there poor performance if there were more poorer position than relegation that is were they would have found themselves, I can imagine what Konyaspor will do to them on the 30th November because Adana Demirspor is always easy to score. On the other hand even if Trabzonspor has just won 3 times from there 11 matches but still things may turn around for them like you said.

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