Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue - page 5.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

....Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

I was wondering why people blame Twitch and so I had to check other video platforms as well. It turns out that Youtube also suspended accounts whose contents are mostly related to gambling "by mistake" but were later reinstated.

I'm really not in favor of banning. I would rather have them enforce a strict regulation on age limit.

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Well, these people that are already out of control with their addiction just had found a new way to fund themselves. If that's what he's been doing and he later on released a statement of his apology.

Then, he sees the fault of himself that he should haven't done that. Whether there's a clause on Twitch's TOS or there's none, that's not really the best way to gamble.

But for his fans that have been giving their money to him, there are those folks that would just like to see them gamble and support it with their money.

Twitch should be more restrictive for the contents like this and won't allow to younger teens and kids to view them.

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"Would use his influence" meaning this guy is a famous streamer so he must be receiving tips during his streams and didn't he have any sponsorship? He can always apply one if he haven't yet. That should make him good money already.

There is no need to risk his reputation by borrowing money. Don't tell me that he did it because he also lose all of his earnings on gambling. If that is the case then he must be heavily addicted with gambling already. He better find ways to stop this because if not then this will get worse. For now, maybe someone will report to twitch so that he will be banned there. That is to prevent him for borrowing for more money and also to teach him a lesson. Maybe he will change after that.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

There are a lot of parallels between people getting addicted to gambling and people who follow some of these streamers in a cult-like fashion. Many people out there look at the lifestyles of streamers, getting paid all day to play games essentially, and end up worshiping them like a celebrity. It's slightly sad in a way because they think through donations and other activities that they somehow form a bond with these people, but once these streamers reach a certain level they will just be churning viewers. At that point they are earning so much money from donations, sponsorships and other funding they really won't notice if all their original subscribers left and new ones came in. Not even sure why Twitch tolerates this when they are meant to be a relatively young fan base orientated site.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

You have a good point when you mentioned the fact Twitch is a streaming service where a lot of children and teens spend their time watching their favorite internet stars or former youtubers to play and most of the times to have a good time while helping those streamers to earn money, that being said it is a very delicate situation to have people like this one (and many others) introducing children and teens to the world of gambling.

I expect Twitch to end up banning gambling completely from their streaming service or going for a more moderate approach first and see if this works, they could do the same they did with the hot tub issue, they created a completely new category for girls in hot tubs, I found it rather silly but it worked, those who wanted to see women in a Jacuzzi found their place.

In case of gambling, Twitch may require people for KYC to allow them to enter a stream where the host is gambling on live, though, creating a category would not be enough, it seems this Silker guy does have some serious issues hopefully he manages to get his stuff together.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

LOL
The amount of money gambling streamers generate for twitch (from streamer subs, bits donations, ads, sponsorships paid directly to twitch) is insane, we're talkings millions of dollars, and so far everything is legit and completely legal

btw, one of the latest twitch drama stories is that a gambling streamer got caught paying several Twitch staff around 5 figures in crypto ($50.000-$80.000). You think twitch is gonna stop this? when even the company staff are part of the whole thing? nah

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

All the gambling streams are 18+, teens and kids are not supposed to watch them, but we know the reality is other. I don't think the platform is doing a responsible moderation on this, because as you say, this gamblers are only getting in debts with everyone and digging a deep hole.

Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

I don't think twitch will ban gambling because in the end isn't an illegal activity, that's why twitch allow it and will keep allowing in the future.

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Twitch has been a cesspool for a long time (compared to its historical role as a game streaming service), and I don't think this case is anything special given the current state of things on the platform. But if you are interested in specific games and specific streamers, you should not care that there are many other things on the platform that are unacceptable to you - just do not go to their streams.

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I think it's because the supervision from Twitch isn't tight enough that we can still watch content that smells of gambling so that it will attract people who use Twitch to try gambling. Maybe they are responsible for all their users. The real responsibility remains with the users because they should use the content available on the internet properly and not become addicted to gambling. We see today that people can find many things on the internet and if we don't filter it, then there is a possibility that we will be dissolved into it. Maybe later, Twitch will try to filter content for 18 years and over so people under 18 can't access the content.

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This is a form of begging and twitch strictly doesn’t allows it especially they are directly asking money for gambling. They implement star system to reward streamer so that they will not ask money directly so this thing is obviously a violation of ToS or worst gambling streaming in general will be affected if there will a mass report in regards to this matter.

Afaik, This same scenario starts the strict implementation of rules against crypto by social platform like Facebook because of too much scam happened in the platform. This is very bad on the booming market of gambling streaming.

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Quote from: cabron on September 20, 2022, 09:37:36 AM

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They are popular enough as it is because there are not many competitors in this field. When such platforms start to develop they spend a lot of money to protect the interests of their users, but when they have already gained a lot of users they do not need it because the platform itself is a driver of attraction. So you can forget about it.

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It will take a popular streamer also as in Twitch address it to the team.
If there will be lots of complains to the streamer, the Twitch team can propose something to what gambling streamers can and can't to avoid issues.

This is a minor issue for Twitch though. If Twitch is not doing somwthing then they are more focus in growing and getting more popular against their competitors.

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It seems to me that such sites primarily care about their profits, so they do not care what content users consume, in addition, the shares of many companies continue to fall and clearly they will not spend extra money to improve moderation channels. I think we can expect an increase in fraud and dangerous content on Twitch, so try to keep your children away from such sites.

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I remember seeing an apology video from this dude but I don't that is enough, he needs to pay them back and then apologize again. I'm wondering if the people he borrowed from can file a case against him.

Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?

maybe, but I doubt it. gambling isn't the only addicting thing that is being streamed on that platform that affects young audiences and adults.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 20, 2022, 02:51:47 AM

It both parties benefited, Twitch and then the streamers, then it will be very difficult to stop the proliferation of gambling in their platform.

But if some government agency stops up the place and give a stern warning on the platform, then maybe they will do something and ban those streamers for good or be on the lookout. But for now, I would say it will continue and it is going to grow big as crypto gambling is now the thing as far as online gambling.

Those streamers are also using their popularity to gain money regardless of what they're promoting. This kind of app is hard to stop especially if they have lots of supporters. It will be helpful if the warning would come from the government but I guess they won't fully control those streaming activities but their warnings and reminders will be a big help.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 19, 2022, 05:49:52 PM

If we do speak about ethical or not then it would always boils down on someones perspective,view or opinion.It isnt really just right that you would be having that sort of online begging
just for you to make out some sports betting.

Nothing about gamba twitch streams and this fiasco is an ethical question. It's very clear cut.

Quote from: coin-investor on September 19, 2022, 05:48:54 PM

If what you've mentioned is an isolated case, they may not ban it, Twitch thrives on gambling streaming and they have gambling streams too on Youtube.

This case is direct result of normalizing gambling. This should be enough evidence that Twitch is deteriorating morals of its users by not censoring addictive vices.

Quote from: KennyR on September 19, 2022, 06:02:35 PM

I'm not sure about the terms and conditions of the Twitch. Based on that it is quite an easy thing for the Twitch team to stop users from creating and broadcasting their contents. For now gambling is getting popular around and Twitch got importance for its scheduled streaming and different giveaways. As one of the user stated, people will move towards other forms of streaming opportunities.

This is what I don't get. Brands don't advertise in gambling category, so twitch doesn't earn as much money from slots as they earn from other categories.
If twitch bans gamba streams then streamers will be forced to create content in other categories, which pays more(to Twitch and the creator).

Quote from: davis196 on September 20, 2022, 01:46:05 AM

Twitch banned most of the Adult female streamers(also known as thots) for NSFW content.
Why do you think that Twitch won't ban the gambling streamers?
I'm not using Twitch anymore and I don't like that platform, but from my experience, Twitch is very slow when it comes to banning streamers that violate their Terms of Service. Maybe the platform is just too big and Twitch doesn't have a big enough team of moderators and customer support representatives that would effectively control all streamers. I'm sure that the gambling streamers will be banned in the long run.

I am perpplexed too. Why isn't it banned already!

Twitch is probably worried about losing its users to the competition. Since a ban on gamba may trigger an exodus of slot streamers to other sites with more freedom. They give zero shit about what happens to Johnny when he starts gambling on his mommy's card after watching guys like trainwreck and ending up on streets 10 years later.

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My thoughts on the gambling problem being related to the Sliker issue may be overbearing. This could be among the worst case scenarios of gambling addiction. Perhaps it could be something else that demands such expenses, like drugs or pills, or even bills too. Hell, it could be a hustle!
Having to borrow consecutively in that order however, is a concern, also, making it seem like the streaming site, 'Twitch' is solely responsible for Slikers pleasurable fondliness, is rather excessive.
Twitch should be able to sanction him if these persons/viewers from whom he had borrowed, make complaints that corroborate others.
Unlike other well-known streaming apps online today, the owners of Twitch want to make a profit and be on a pedestal. Hence, a sanction is imminent for Sliker if he continues in this manner.

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Quote from: edgycorner on September 19, 2022, 05:38:40 PM

Silker is a Twitch streamer and would use his influence & position to ask for money from his viewers, other streamers, friends, etcetra. Then he would gamble away all of this borrowed money on sports betting. Mostly tennis matches lol

Here's a tweet by Jake Lucky on this https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1571309473402355712

Twitch has turned into a cesspool of gambling addicts and gambling pushers. Do you think it's a responsible content creation & moderation on a platform which is used by teens, kids, and young adults?

Will this be the straw that will finally break the Camel's back and will force Twitch to ban gambling streams?
I hope it does.

I think gambling streams are difficult to ban especially from governments when they have no incentive to do so.This is an example of a huge addiction which makes anyone even a great streamer to lose his mind as only a person who does not think clearly ask for money from viewers,friends,relatives etc.

So this borrowed money if it is gambled away it means that this guy Silker has no intention to pay it back which makes it even a bigger offense.What his followers should do is stop lending him money so he cannot gamble all of them away,he needs to be back on his head and then to continue streaming.Every addicted person streamer or no streamer is a dangerous individual in the sense that they cannot and should not be trusted with any money.

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It both parties benefited, Twitch and then the streamers, then it will be very difficult to stop the proliferation of gambling in their platform.

But if some government agency stop up the place and give a stern warning on the platform, then maybe they will do something and ban those streamers for good or be on the lookout. But for now, I would say it will continue and it is going to grow big as crypto gambling is now the thing as far as online gambling.

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Twitch banned most of the Adult female streamers(also known as thots) for NSFW content.
Why do you think that Twitch won't ban the gambling streamers?
I'm not using Twitch anymore and I don't like that platform, but from my experience, Twitch is very slow when it comes to banning streamers that violate their Terms of Service. Maybe the platform is just too big and Twitch doesn't have a big enough team of moderators and customer support representatives that would effectively control all streamers. I'm sure that the gambling streamers will be banned in the long run.

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