Twitch remains a subsidiary of Amazon and things are always done properly right? If they had decided to adopt the system of "not allowing gambling streams", then that should not just be a decision made by the staffs or operational officers, it's something that has been pondered about severely from all their affiliates....
As it says, they just made additions to their existing policies and that has always been the core target to keep any firm going... Nothing wrong, Maybe the viewers are just tired of seeing gambling ads, maybe they need some privacy views
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Topic: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. - page 3. (Read 3511 times)
Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.
In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.
See the announcement below.
Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers
What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
Less about the the backlash that the streamers are receiving from streaming these gambling sites, but more about protecting Twitch's image. There had been instances in the past where Twitch prohibited certain tropes that streamers use to reel in users, I could still remember twitch in 2016 banning accounts that stream with revealing clothes because the platform is slowly becoming riddled with boobie streamers who use their body to bait pubescent teens into watching their streams. They came just in the nick of time before twitch gets recognized as a site that condones such lascivious acts, I believe they are upholding the same interest in the ban against gambling sites streaming. They wanna make sure their contents are kids-friendly first, and that they don't get recognized as the site for streamers that play dice games second, especially now that the competition is tight between YouTube, Facebook Gaming, and Twitch. In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.
See the announcement below.
Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers
What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
This was a tricky move because gambling streams weren't really banned at all as you can see in the next link:
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slots
People keep streaming slots, and the question here is, Then what does really change?
People can't promote casinos or use their affiliate links, and that was the main reason why the main gambling streamers decide to quit twitch.
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slots
People keep streaming slots, and the question here is, Then what does really change?
People can't promote casinos or use their affiliate links, and that was the main reason why the main gambling streamers decide to quit twitch.
this is a rather complicated and difficult question to understand, whether Twitch is banning gambling because of US law or if they are simply wanting to protect other people from exposure to gambling, but in any case looking at a neutral scenario I would say that the Twitch affix is wrong, I say this because there are several places where they advertise gambling and if we notice they always put "prohibited for minors under 18 and play responsibly" then why is Twitch simply don't you give warnings like these and leave the streams alone? would it be a good request because if they use arguments about US governments? so in this case they would be asking the casinos to have a US license something that I don't see being possible for now or anytime soon
Today, Twitch took to their verified Twitter account to announce that they will be banning gambling streaming in their platform by October 18th this year, - this is less than a month from today.
In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.
See the announcement below.
Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers
What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
According to Twitch, the primary cause of the restriction on the mentioned gambling services, including Stake, is a conflict with US regulations around licensing. The majority of the platforms they have banned, meanwhile, are cryptocurrency-based gambling services, thus it appears that the focus is primarily on preventing all gambling-related streams from running on the platform. I am aware that everyone who relies on that platform will be impacted but I think, streamers will most likely shift to other platforms like YouTube and their followers will shift there too. In their announcement, they said the banned gambling sites will include stake.com, Rollbit.com, Duelbits.com, Roobet.com etc.
They said that they will identify other gambling platforms and ban them too as the move forward.
See the announcement below.
Link to the official announcement
Link to publish news: https://remitano.com/home/ng/post/105248-twitch-to-ban-crypto-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-from-influencers
What do you guys think of this development?
According to the published article, the reason for the ban is due to backlash they(Twitch) received from influencers.
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?
^^ It's too early to say that if they are not affected revenue wise. Their decision was just implement last month and so there are no reports as far as their revenue goes.
And with that, give them at least a year to see how it is, if there is a mass exodus of twitch gambling streamers to other platform and bringing with them their followers. And if this is true then definitely it will be felt by Twitch and we will see their official report maybe around April-May where usually companies released to the public their revenues.
And with that, give them at least a year to see how it is, if there is a mass exodus of twitch gambling streamers to other platform and bringing with them their followers. And if this is true then definitely it will be felt by Twitch and we will see their official report maybe around April-May where usually companies released to the public their revenues.
Also, we need to know how many gamblers were streaming on twitch and what percentage did it contribute to the overall streaming at twitch.
I do not think it may bring a dent in the twitch revenue if the percentage of gambler streamers were not so high but it will definitely effect the streamers who were making regular income on this platform.
The sad part is that we do not have any decentralized platform where these streamers can continue streaming and keep on making the same amount of money.
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitchStreamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Well without going too far, in the case of stake.com, with Drake he is an influencer who can go to any platform and I am sure that any of his followers will not mind going where he says, because they are people who already have many followers, fans and twitch is just a platform, it doesn't mean that ´for the platform all the fun and things should continue, it's a shame because I personally like that platform a lot, it's also comfortable and when the internet connection it was slow there was a special buffer function, that's something very comfortable, I'm not the only one who sometimes has a slow internet, so all those functions are what one misses.
do.To those who are solid fans of those streamers then if they do tend to switch up into other platforms then it would really be normal that they would really be following along.In speaking with those competitors of
Twitch which its really that impossible that they wont really be applying other platforms feature and would tend to hook up those previous users specially now
that Twitch had really ban or prohibit gambling streams.
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitchStreamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Well without going too far, in the case of stake.com, with Drake he is an influencer who can go to any platform and I am sure that any of his followers will not mind going where he says, because they are people who already have many followers, fans and twitch is just a platform, it doesn't mean that ´for the platform all the fun and things should continue, it's a shame because I personally like that platform a lot, it's also comfortable and when the internet connection it was slow there was a special buffer function, that's something very comfortable, I'm not the only one who sometimes has a slow internet, so all those functions are what one misses.
~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.
I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?
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As I see from the latest news, streaming purely luck-based games was banned on twitch, and now Twitch’s viewership is at its lowest point since September 2020, and, among other things, gambling ban has contributed to that, I'm sure.
But the sure thing is that most streamers will definitely move to another platform, I don't even know why they all would have to depend on one platform in the first place, there's Instagram, there's Facebook(though I hate this platform), there's YouTube(I don't know if gambling streams are legal here though), there are a lot other social media platforms where they can move, or better still, they come together and create their own streaming platform with zero censorship/that is completely decentralization.
Yes, look at this news:
Following Twitch's decision to ban some forms of gambling content on the streaming platform, Tyler “Trainwreck” Niknam — one of the biggest streamers on the website for several years — announced his plans to move over to a new streaming site known as Kick.com.
Trainwreck's channel still has a month old video with slots spinning
but it is called "LAST GAMBLING STREAM ON TWITCH". The video's got over 2 million views, and it looks like it was indeed the last gambling related stream by him. But I personally think Trainwreck won't actually leave twitch. We'll see.
Back lashes in the sense of gambling addiction in its users or in the sense that, users promotes referral link through there casted streams.
They need to be really clear on what these back lashes are because, these are the purposes or benefits one could hope to get from these activities with respect to site and individual broadcaster or stream host.
Eithe of the reasons, I don't see what's wrong in that!
Addiction would always build in users that are unable to manage there gambling habits. It doesn't matter much about the streams, so long as there is other promotions on the bets, that's some good enough exposure.
Banning don't seem like the best solution to me.
They need to be really clear on what these back lashes are because, these are the purposes or benefits one could hope to get from these activities with respect to site and individual broadcaster or stream host.
Eithe of the reasons, I don't see what's wrong in that!
Addiction would always build in users that are unable to manage there gambling habits. It doesn't matter much about the streams, so long as there is other promotions on the bets, that's some good enough exposure.
Banning don't seem like the best solution to me.
This was a tricky move because gambling streams weren't really banned at all as you can see in the next link:
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slots
People keep streaming slots, and the question here is, Then what does really change?
People can't promote casinos or use their affiliate links, and that was the main reason why the main gambling streamers decide to quit twitch.
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slots
People keep streaming slots, and the question here is, Then what does really change?
People can't promote casinos or use their affiliate links, and that was the main reason why the main gambling streamers decide to quit twitch.
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~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.
I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?
But the sure thing is that most streamers will definitely move to another platform, I don't even know why they all would have to depend on one platform in the first place, there's Instagram, there's Facebook(though I hate this platform), there's YouTube(I don't know if gambling streams are legal here though), there are a lot other social media platforms where they can move, or better still, they come together and create their own streaming platform with zero censorship/that is completely decentralization.
~ Twitch is a huge platform with a big community so banning gambling streams won't affect them that much. They will never ban gambling streaming if it will affect their platform badly. I'm sure that they did a series of studies before they made this decision. However, it's another earning opportunity lost for streamers but they can still find other ways to do streaming. It is not the end for them yet, especially those with a huge number of followers.
I think about exactly the same thing: can banning gambling streams significantly affect top streamers on twitch? Yes, they will lose some money, that's for sure, because, I heard, with streaming gambling they receive 2-3 times more payment than they get from other streams, but would they move to another platform if streaming gambling were completely banned?
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.
Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Yes, i totally agree with this very statement of yours, because in as much as there are many streamers, there are some who does it in a unique way with style that fans wont mind following him or her to any other platforms just to stream his or her content live. And I'm sure if Twitch do not have a rethink about this, they may end up losing more people using their social media, as gambling casinos use to have the most sponsorship on twitch Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer
Twitch has a huge community but gambling streamers still have lots of options since there are still other bigger platforms that allow them to stream freely. It seems like Twitch wants to protect its reputation but the sad thing is, it's also affecting gambling businesses as well as streamers who just want to earn. I think it's time for streamers to ask their followers to still follow and support them when they switch to other platforms so they will still b able to make money from streaming. I'm sure that more better opportunities await them.
It's fine that Twitch wants to protect its reputation because streamers know why, too.Streamers will look for other places that can still receive their content so they can still invite their followers to move places too.
Followers will follow wherever the streamer moves because they like the content of that streamer.
This may be a way to make money for platforms that still allow those streamers to upload their content.
an overall thing which could put them on huge effect since they are still running despite of the ban.For those streamers who had been affected then pretty sure that they would really be
switching up into other place which i do see the nearest platform would be Dlive.
https://www.bigwinboard.com/former-twitch-crypto-streamers-find-new-home-on-dlive/
https://thegamerstation.com/en/twitch-banned-gambling-streamers-switched-to-dlive/
So not really that a big issue.
Most Twitch gambling streamers I know switched to Dlive before the ban had taken effect. I think this ban from twitch somehow affected gambling casinos because some casinos hire twitch streamers to promote their platform. It's one of the best way to get prospect gambler for a gambling website. I haven't watched and gambling streams for a while, so I have no clue how it ended for some streamers when they switched over to Dlive.
This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.
All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch banned the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give a huge impact on twitch.All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics
Not really impressive statistics compare to thier biggest competitor. The streamers went to Twitch to expand their audience but most of these streamers started on youtube which they still are on youtube, they just have an account on Twitch, Dlive, Rumble, and Facebook.
But this gambling streamers ban could be a directive from authorities and so they don't want to be suppressed they just follow.
This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.
All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch banned the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give a huge impact on twitch.All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics
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Sorry to read you had a bad experience with those NFT games, I have personally met some people around here which were invested in Plants vs Undead and friend of mine who also had a Axie Infinity scholarship. I never played Axie but at first glance seems to be a well-built game, at least...
Also, the problem is that for every legitimate NFT project, there are hundreds of scams which basically just want to steal people's Ether without even delivering the tokens in a proper way or with the functionality promised. I am just trying to make sense out the timing of this ban, gambling has been a thing for a while both in Youtube and Twitch, I even recall people gambled with Counter Strike skins of high value, both teens and children had easy access to those Youtubers and streamers, one of the only differences this time is the existence of the NFTs, otherwise, if Twitch was worried about teens consuming gambling videos they would have taken measures before.
This will be a bad move for Twitch. With their scroony attitude in relation to gambling they will end up losing much of their users. A lot of people are using Twitch to show their games a build a followers base. If they end up migrating on to other platforms Twitch will only be losing.
All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
You should check the statistic first, as you can see on twitchtracker [1] there's no huge change between October 2022 and November 2022 stats which mean gambling streamers on twitch doesn't give huge impact for them. Also not all gamblers are get banned on twitch since they're still allow sportsbetting, I think sports has more traffic since world cup has been started in this year. If twitch ban the whole slots, sports, poker, etc it would give huge impact to twitch.All and all, I'm already using Rumble as an alternative...
[1] https://twitchtracker.com/statistics
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-snip-...I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.
Perhaps these measures announced by Twitch have anything to do with the NFT fever that was going on during the first months of this year?
Casinos have nothing to do with NFT's but NFTs are part of the crypto ecosystem. Because many failed projects and scams which involved NFT's, there has been a negative perception about them, specially from the public which does not partake in our community very often. is there any possibility this was the idea of an uninformed Twitch executive ?
Well, personally, when there was the rise of NFT games, I was one of those who thought it was going to be something very good, and I played Plants vs Undead, and also through a scholarship I went to play Axie, maybe I came. in too late and I had no profit first in Plants vs Undead it stopped after I joined and kept going down and in Axie you have to be really good to get everything so basically what I did was lose money then maybe the fact having twitch with an uninformed agent or executive could have had a significant impact when making a decision, however I think there are things that have more weight behind all this.
Currently with the NFT thing they have cleaned up the name a lot, for example in Rollbit, they have their project with the NFT Rollbots and that gives a lot of credibility to the NFT, for me there was much more to the Twitch thing and that maybe we don't know, In this aspect, the business model they manage is quite broad and it is very difficult to determine the reasons or possible reasons and to tell the truth, what you suppose is something that makes a lot of sense, maybe that's where the whole problem is headed.
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-snip-...I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.
Perhaps these measures announced by Twitch have anything to do with the NFT fever that was going on during the first months of this year?
Casinos have nothing to do with NFT's but NFTs are part of the crypto ecosystem. Because many failed projects and scams which involved NFT's, there has been a negative perception about them, specially from the public which does not partake in our community very often. is there any possibility this was the idea of an uninformed Twitch executive ?
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