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Topic: TYGRR.* assets on GLBSE delisted. - page 17. (Read 33293 times)

hero member
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Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.
September 25, 2012, 01:38:31 AM
#30
Perhaps my Bitcoin Dispute Resolution Mediation Services are required?   Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-dispute-resolution-mediation-services-110652
legendary
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September 25, 2012, 01:38:08 AM
#29
It was sent to the email used for your GLBSE account. Where else would it be?

e-mail is not secure.  smtp sends messages clear text.  

was this sent, encrypted with goat's public pgp key?

if not, there is no way for these to be used to claim anything since they were not transmitted in a secure manner.  

if goat's system was compromised, or some hacker was sniffing smtp traffic between glbse and hi, goat could get a claim from just about anybody.
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September 25, 2012, 01:37:50 AM
#28
Yes I will need all of their BTC addresses to send them coins. I'm sure Nefario will send this soon enough.

Maybe we could avoid that and just set up a new exchange where people can just put in their "secret code" and make a claim.

Might be the way to do it.  

The way Nefario wants to do this is there is no longer liquidity. No way I can see peoples bids if they want to sell out.

Making dividend payments should be easy enough once a system is in place.



A simple claim form would be enough. People input their code and give you an address to send the coins too.

How many coins? And what if they don't want to sell? I would need to make dividend payments. Some bonds I can't even buy back or know the fair value to.

It is not workable like this.


An argument could be made that since the contracts were only available through GLBSE and GLBSE de-listed the contracts, that they are now voided.

Actually no, Goat had his contracts on the forums, and anything thats not there I can put on the forum.
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September 25, 2012, 01:36:27 AM
#27
Yes I will need all of their BTC addresses to send them coins. I'm sure Nefario will send this soon enough.

Maybe we could avoid that and just set up a new exchange where people can just put in their "secret code" and make a claim.

Might be the way to do it.  

The way Nefario wants to do this is there is no longer liquidity. No way I can see peoples bids if they want to sell out.

Making dividend payments should be easy enough once a system is in place.



A simple claim form would be enough. People input their code and give you an address to send the coins too.

How many coins? And what if they don't want to sell? I would need to make dividend payments. Some bonds I can't even buy back or know the fair value to.

It is not workable like this.


An argument could be made that since the contracts were only available through GLBSE and GLBSE de-listed the contracts, that they are now voided.
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September 25, 2012, 01:35:00 AM
#26
I'm sure Nefario will be reasonable and work something out once he cools down. He is just upset I would not trade him the "Fake" GLBSE assets. He is just upset and power tripping right now.

Rubbish, your a complete liability to do business with.
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Wat
September 25, 2012, 01:32:26 AM
#25
Yes I will need all of their BTC addresses to send them coins. I'm sure Nefario will send this soon enough.

Maybe we could avoid that and just set up a new exchange where people can just put in their "secret code" and make a claim.

Might be the way to do it.  

The way Nefario wants to do this is there is no longer liquidity. No way I can see peoples bids if they want to sell out.

Making dividend payments should be easy enough once a system is in place.



A simple claim form would be enough. People input their code and give you an address to send the coins too.
donator
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September 25, 2012, 01:29:18 AM
#24
goat should try to work with other exchange to control the situation.
i guess nefario has rhe right to delist the asset. it is a pepertual stop trading.but if a pre warning had been sent out would have been better than a suprise notice. traditional exchanges give a pre warning before delisting.
legendary
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September 25, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
#23
GLBSE handled this terribly, first they disable assets without any prior notice to anyone and then don't even explain anything how to proceed further to the issuer and asset holders; let the users figure out on their own a one line message that didn't even make any sense. "Contact issuer:delisted"  - is very confusing statement, should have read something like "Delisted. Contact Issuer".
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September 25, 2012, 01:23:33 AM
#22
We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
Yesterday was a sink of shares (not associated to the pirate), at a low price. Goats under contract, he can give me back my value of these shares, but at a low price. he will be right. and who provoked the situation when I lost money, I think is clear. you had to solve the problem together and find a way out.

Goat has been provided everything he needs to fulfill his contractual obligations without GLBSE.

This is not even close to being true.

Why not?

Because I would need a second stock exchange and as you know we made a deal that I would not make one if you would give me real GLBSE stock. And now I have neither a second stock exchange or GLBSE stock.

How can I operated an exchange with software you had me not develop?

What a nefarious guy you are...

Try giving the cryptostock people a call.  They might be willing to set something up.
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September 25, 2012, 01:16:47 AM
#21
We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
Yesterday was a sink of shares (not associated to the pirate), at a low price. Goats under contract, he can give me back my value of these shares, but at a low price. he will be right. and who provoked the situation when I lost money, I think is clear. you had to solve the problem together and find a way out.

Goat has been provided everything he needs to fulfill his contractual obligations without GLBSE.

This is not even close to being true.

Why not?
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September 25, 2012, 01:14:19 AM
#20
We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
Yesterday was a sink of shares (not associated to the pirate), at a low price. Goats under contract, he can give me back my value of these shares, but at a low price. he will be right. and who provoked the situation when I lost money, I think is clear. you had to solve the problem together and find a way out.

Goat has been provided everything he needs to fulfill his contractual obligations without GLBSE.

This is not even close to being true.

Maybe it is expected that you do a forced buy back.
legendary
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September 25, 2012, 01:13:09 AM
#19
I'm not me and not my goat(с)

paraphrased Russian proverb. "I'm not me and not my horse," - so say the man who does not recognize their responsibility for anything.
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September 25, 2012, 01:10:55 AM
#18
We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
Yesterday was a sink of shares (not associated to the pirate), at a low price. Goats under contract, he can give me back my value of these shares, but at a low price. he will be right. and who provoked the situation when I lost money, I think is clear. you had to solve the problem together and find a way out.

Goat has been provided everything he needs to fulfill his contractual obligations without GLBSE.
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September 25, 2012, 01:08:42 AM
#17
I am starting to understand why exchanges and brokerages are two separate entities.  Lot less drama.
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September 25, 2012, 01:07:53 AM
#16
Goat, we refuse to do business with you anymore.

You are a liability.

We've provided you with a way to continue your commitment to TYGRR.* holders that doesn't involve us.

Good luck in your future endeavours.


I disagree. Your secret code is not a stock exchange. There is no place for me to send the BTC.



You have no natural right to use our platform.

You have been given everything you need to continue your relationship to your asset holders.
legendary
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September 25, 2012, 01:07:53 AM
#15
We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
Yesterday was a sink of shares (not associated to the pirate), at a low price. Goats under contract, he can give me back my value of these shares, but at a low price. he will be right. and who provoked the situation when I lost money, I think is clear. you had to solve the problem together and find a way out.
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September 25, 2012, 01:06:07 AM
#14
Goat, we refuse to do business with you anymore.

You are a liability.

We've provided you with a way to continue your commitment to TYGRR.* holders that doesn't involve us.

Good luck in your future endeavours.


I disagree. Your secret code is not a stock exchange. There is no place for me to send the BTC.



This secret code is a way to verify who owned the shares.

The problem is you going to have to get payout addresses for all the secret code holders, in order to payout.

If you don't have a payout address for a secret code holder, put that dividend into escrow with someone you feel is trustworthy.
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September 25, 2012, 12:58:10 AM
#13
queerly, and late. Now, such actions on assets Goats do not seem logical.
you can not just stop working with goat and spit on asset holders.
it will be a breach of contract and you are (GLBSE) contributing to this

We've provided goat everything he needs to continue his relationship with his asset holders.

We can't be forced to do business with someone who is a liability.

If he believes that we've breached contract, he can take legal action against us.
legendary
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September 25, 2012, 12:53:58 AM
#12
I added an entry in the post, see higher
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September 25, 2012, 12:51:28 AM
#11
queerly, and late. Now, such actions on assets Goats do not seem logical.

So we should do nothing then?

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