UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 578.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 30, 2022, 05:28:33 AM

there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund Wink

Chelsea and Dortmund both have something in common this season, namely not being in the top 4 of the standings in their respective regular leagues and this will make the match for the two teams in the champions league even more exciting, considering the depth of the squad which has similar things so this will be quite a match balanced. Contrary to those of you who bet on Chelsea, I will bet on Dortmund in the round of 16 later because for the first leg Dortmund are the hosts and will definitely have the advantage of playing at home plus getting the support of the fans.

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Quote from: hahay on December 30, 2022, 06:12:36 AM

So for me, it's clear that to predict Dortmund and Chelsea it's not enough only with the final results of the matches that are happening right now. But indeed, both at this moment do not seem to have a significant difference in the quality of their performance so far this season.
So of course, any result can happen, because Chelsea is still very unstable under the new coach and because of this instability, Chelsea could play well or maybe play very badly in the match later.

The match will be held in 1.5 months, meaning there are 45 days for both teams to prepare for the match, both of them have the same opportunity, Chelsea are still struggling to improve any deficiencies in their squad as well as Dortmund who are no better than their opponents later and results in the league can be very different in the Champions League and that provides an opportunity for both of them to achieve results better than those achieved in the local league

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Quote from: Zlantann on December 30, 2022, 05:53:27 AM

The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.

Will Marco Reus be ready for the match with Chelsea? In general, Chelsea are better in quality and they have more players at word class level than Dortmund. Players in Dortmund are either too young like Moukoko or old already like Hummels, Reus. Jude Bellingham had a good World Cup 2022 but he is young and can not carry Dortmund in all matches. He is also a midfielder, not a striker and can not really help Dortmund to win matches by his goals.

Quote from: X-ray on December 29, 2022, 10:08:31 PM

I don't even think like that. Dortmund has been losing some players. There will be so many changes in the club to happen. I see that chelsea can take it as opportunity to win against dortmund. Im sure that dortmund's formation will be changing again.

Dortmund always lose their star players to big clubs, to Bayern, Real Madrid, Chelsea and others. Chelsea are more experienced in Champions League than Dortmund. They won two trophies and usually go farther each season in Champions League.

I believe Chesea will win against Dortmund after all and go to quarter final.

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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Chelsea has used that FIFA world cup competition to prepared very well because, they really displayed well in the premier league game that made them to achieved 3 points in the first game which they will surely apply the same skills to beat Dortmund 2:1. Dortmund will score a goal from this game but it will be difficult for them to win Chelsea like the way they used to disgrace other strong teams with many goals.

Will the match between Dortmund v Chelsea in the Champions League be held this week? So that the final result that occurred in the match between Chelsea v Bournemouth yesterday in the English Premier League, you make it a reference for the match which in reality will just be played in mid-February 2023. Because even to reach the match between Dortmund v Chelsea in the Champions League there is still time at least a month more, so the results that occurred this week for the Chelsea match clearly cannot be used as any reference.
Even though there will also be a transfer window that will open in January, this will certainly make them also make a small overhaul in their squad.

So for me, it's clear that to predict Dortmund and Chelsea it's not enough only with the final results of the matches that are happening right now. But indeed, both at this moment do not seem to have a significant difference in the quality of their performance so far this season.
So of course, any result can happen, because Chelsea is still very unstable under the new coach and because of this instability, Chelsea could play well or maybe play very badly in the match later.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 29, 2022, 10:22:48 PM

Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Chelsea have been extremely unstable this season, but Dortmund are no better. Looking behind which teams both clubs are in the domestic leagues, Chelsea have a much more solid list of names than Dortmund. I also hope to see an equal fight in this pair with more goals, but the likelihood that Dortmund will fail and perform worse than their average level is higher.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 30, 2022, 05:00:36 AM

We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.

Hopefully, Reece James would be in the march after recovering from his injury. From my current performance, I am speculating that Chelsea would win the match comfortably.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 29, 2022, 06:54:11 PM

Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.
Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.

not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund Wink

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 30, 2022, 02:24:32 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 29, 2022, 06:54:11 PM

Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.
Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.

not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 29, 2022, 06:54:11 PM

Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.

Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.

not only Chelsea, but almost all clubs are on holiday due to the world cup break, they even perform well, especially now that Chelsea is involved in competition for Borussia Dortmund player Youssoufa Moukoko, in the January 2023 Premier League Transfer Market.
This 18-year-old centre-forward is considered one of the most promising strikers in European football, of course that will help Chelsea play well against Dortmund later in the last 16 of the champions league

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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Chelsea has used that FIFA world cup competition to prepared very well because, they really displayed well in the premier league game that made them to achieved 3 points in the first game which they will surely apply the same skills to beat Dortmund 2:1. Dortmund will score a goal from this game but it will be difficult for them to win Chelsea like the way they used to disgrace other strong teams with many goals.

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Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 29, 2022, 06:54:11 PM

Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.

I can't use the match against bournemouth as measurement. Chelsea has not yet back to the best performance. I meant we shall see the result between chelsea against manchester city. The match wiil be coming in january.
There will be two matches in EPL and FA cup. We will get two match as judgement for performance of chelsea after world cup. I hope that there will be significant increase like chelsea will able to beat city two times.

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 29, 2022, 06:54:11 PM

Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.

I don't even think like that. Dortmund has been losing some players. There will be so many changes in the club to happen. I see that chelsea can take it as opportunity to win against dortmund. Im sure that dortmund's formation will be changing again.
that means the new players will have needed to build a new relationship and chemistry

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Quote from: bitgolden on December 29, 2022, 04:58:22 PM

Chelsea is overall a good team, it's just a bit about the turmoil they went through which caused a little bit of trouble and now they are getting back to normal.

They already have good players, good team and likely a good coach too. They don't have to buy new players to be a good team but with chaos in their club, they might need a little bit time to bring everything back to normality, a new normality under a new owner.

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Remember, there was a period last year where they couldn't even feel sure about going to their games because their assets were frozen due to ownership sanctions, and they still did it with permissions and all but no team would be great when there is a discussion about them having their assets frozen like that. They have a totally new owner now and they are doing much better but that doesn't change the fact that they are doing something much better in the long run which is all that matters.

This chaos results in uncertainty in their clubs and their players had uncertainty about their future which affected their minds and performances too. Now it looks like things are not too bad for Chelsea and their players. It would be time for their players to actually fight for big aims in this season. Top four in Premier League is important and must be achieved. If they fail with this mission, many players will be sold in the summer transfer.

Champions League is so competitive but Chelsea can fight and in the past, they suddenly won two Champions League. They can repeat it even in this chaotic season.

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Chelsea have started to give a good look after the break for the World Cup. The Bournemouth game wasn't hard on paper maybe but it was an important win for Chelsea. If they manage to keep up a good form in the league until the Dortmund matchup, then I will surely be favouring Chelsea to advance. They are already the favourite side according to bookmakers.

Dortmund seem more fragile to me honestly. They have a good attacking line but this might not be enough to beat Chelsea. They will need to make improvements in defense line as well. But it feels like Chelsea can do a similar thing to the one they did against Milan in the group games.

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This is very interesting when talking about 2 clubs which is in the middle stand, Chelsea and Dortmund are clubs that are not going well on the local league, they have underperformance after losing a potential player and management. But what makes me interested is Moukoko, a Dortmund player who has an interest by Chelsea Officla. If this happens this winter, possible this guy will change jerseys to Chelsea and will face his ex-club in the champions league next.

UEFA new rules allowing one player to play for two different clubs could be used by Chelsea to transport Moukoko from Dortmund and play him against his former club.
One of the tricks to weaken the opponent's strength by hijacking players owned by the opposing team, Chelsea will use this trick to survive in the Champions League.
Apart from Moukoko, Chelsea are also hunting for several other players in the transfer market.
Dortmund who have not performed well in their local league, will find it difficult to stop Chelsea if the team led by Potter manages to strengthen their squad in the transfer market, the chances are in Chelsea hands, but anything can still happen.

In my opinion I think this new rule should have been in place and effective a long time ago. If a club sells out a player he should have the right to play against his former club, he wears a different jersey and should be able to fulfill the reason why he brought in the club. I wonder if Chelsea will take advantage of this rule against Dortmund in the Champions league.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 29, 2022, 03:51:37 PM

I'm curious about what Inter will do as well. They were pretty nice in the group stage. Most people were expecting to see Barcelona pushing them out of the Champions League but the opposite happened. It was quite unexpected for me as well to tell the truth. They got four points in total from Barcelona which was a really good effort. Now they are going to face Porto in last 16 stage. On paper, Inter are the favourite team to advance of course. However bookmakers don't see them as a big favourite either - Inter to advance has a 1.76 odd while it is 1.96 for Porto.

But I believe in Inter to do this. I really appreciate their attacking performance this season. Maybe they have had defensive issues so far in general however they have mostly been very good at scoring. Porto are another productive team maybe but Inter should be able to eliminate them anyway by a small margin.

Their conditions, which were initially not too favorite in the group phase, became different when they performed well and were in 2nd place.
At the moment, even though Porto is still a pretty good team, there is a big chance, of course, for Inter, especially with their performance in the Champions League which is quite good.
Now there is still time to think about the Champions League. At the moment they have to focus on maintaining consistency in Serie A because if they do that it will be good at least there is a strong mentality for the Champions League.

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Even right now we have more than six weeks in this match but things looking impressive and having favorable for the Chelsea because they are improving their quality and performance as well which is going to help them for having better result against Borussia Dortmund which is badly down before break and now looking for few changes into their team in coming transfer window with Chelsea is also already in for the few changes which will surely improve things for them specially Moukoko arrival is big advantage for them with they are already having few good players.

Most chances Moukoko will be in Premier League instead of going into Barcelona because they already rejected his salary demand which was big for them in current bad situation so right now we have two London clubs in race for the signing which is most chances going into favour of Chelsea.

Chelsea is overall a good team, it's just a bit about the turmoil they went through which caused a little bit of trouble and now they are getting back to normal.

Remember, there was a period last year where they couldn't even feel sure about going to their games because their assets were frozen due to ownership sanctions, and they still did it with permissions and all but no team would be great when there is a discussion about them having their assets frozen like that. They have a totally new owner now and they are doing much better but that doesn't change the fact that they are doing something much better in the long run which is all that matters.

It may not be easy, but I believe more than two teams among 4 England teams , will qualify for the next champion league stage. Though I'm really confident about Tottenham and Manchester city, I don't think Liverpool will let Real Madrid pull their leg again this time. To me,
Real Madrid is the most dreadful team among all the teams in the round of 16. I rate them even above PSG and Bayern Munich as long as the champion league is consent. If Liverpool can survive real Madrid, they will become the closest team to the Champions League title, just like it was in Tuchel and Chelsea's case last season.

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Quote from: dezoel on December 29, 2022, 08:15:40 AM

Even right now we have more than six weeks in this match but things looking impressive and having favorable for the Chelsea because they are improving their quality and performance as well which is going to help them for having better result against Borussia Dortmund which is badly down before break and now looking for few changes into their team in coming transfer window with Chelsea is also already in for the few changes which will surely improve things for them specially Moukoko arrival is big advantage for them with they are already having few good players.

Most chances Moukoko will be in Premier League instead of going into Barcelona because they already rejected his salary demand which was big for them in current bad situation so right now we have two London clubs in race for the signing which is most chances going into favour of Chelsea.

Chelsea is overall a good team, it's just a bit about the turmoil they went through which caused a little bit of trouble and now they are getting back to normal.

Remember, there was a period last year where they couldn't even feel sure about going to their games because their assets were frozen due to ownership sanctions, and they still did it with permissions and all but no team would be great when there is a discussion about them having their assets frozen like that. They have a totally new owner now and they are doing much better but that doesn't change the fact that they are doing something much better in the long run which is all that matters.

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Now their focus is still on Serie A especially with the first 3 matches which are definitely tough for them and this could be a benchmark for whether they are able to overcome it or not.

Yes, that's right, Napoli will have some pretty tough matches in Serie A against Inter and also Juventus. Even though statistically, Napoli is stronger and more consistent, it cannot be denied that Inter and Juventus are strong teams too. Meanwhile, in the UCL, Napoli will face Frankfurt from the Bundesliga. Sometimes, teams from the Bundesliga throw a lot of surprises. But here, if Napoli still plays as well as before and is more solid, then Napoli might have a bigger chance of winning. Let's hope things change a lot at Napoli

What is most interesting in UCL is the matches of
Liverpool vs Real Madrid
PSG vs Bayern
The result is still very unpredictable.

What's more, when talking about Frankfurt, this club always has unexpected conditions, like last season when they beat Barcelona and won the Europa League. This is clearly a real threat actually.
But as long as Napoli don't lose. This consistency can still be an advantage for them I'm sure of that.

For the other match that you mentioned, this is also quite exciting because the 4 clubs that will compete are actually strong candidates to win.

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Dortmund - Chelsea is another interesting matchup to me.

Because I believe that this is a matchup between two close teams in strength these days. I think like this because of seeing Chelsea's inadequate performance in the recent times. However they have made a really good return by their Bournemouth game last. It was a completely one-sided game and an easy win. But we saw this from Liverpool as well. They won against the same opponent by an emormous goal difference also but they were still inconsistent later. Therefore we need to watch a few more games to be confident about something.

Dortmund haven't played a game in the Bundesliga yet after the break. If they continue to have the same defensive problems then Chelsea would come one step forward in this matchup for sure.

This will be a tough test for Chelsea though English teams like Manchester City, Chelsea have a way of winning games against German teams I won't be surprised if Chelsea are able to win the match against Dortmund but I rate the game as a tough contest for both teams. If any team should have upper hand in this game it should be Chelsea because they have a better squad than Dortmund.

Seeing the current condition of the two teams, they still have the same problem with the difficulty of finding a decent striker for them. But Chelsea's current breakthrough has started by securing Nkunku from Leipzig and of course this can also be a good ace for them, moreover Nkunku should have understood what to do when he met a bundesliga club.
But right now maybe we still have to wait for further consideration because seeing from some of the transfer rumors now Chelsea looks very active but for Dortmund the potential for losing their players is still very big because there are several players who have not yet experienced certainty such as Jude and Moukoko.

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