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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 30, 2022, 06:56:00 PM

PSG - Bayern Munich is the most attention getting matchup for me of course.

Bayern Munich are favoured to advance to next round by bookmakers by the way. It is 1.75 to 2.00. This is pretty interesting to me honestly. PSG are stronger than their version which eliminated Bayern Munich before without Messi. I would have expected them to be the favourite by a slight margin here. Of course there is still a long time and we don't know if we see more injuries. But if we don't then I feel myself closer to PSG for now. The trio can do a great job in this.

i was favoring PSG to win the Champions League before the season started, and seeing them the underdogs in the round of 16 really destroys my prediction, i actually think that Bayern will advance to the next round, i always see a team who seems like the favorite for everyone but the odds are against it, they lose, so i assume the same thing is gonna happen here against Bayern.

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PSG - Bayern Munich is the most attention getting matchup for me of course.

Bayern Munich are favoured to advance to next round by bookmakers by the way. It is 1.75 to 2.00. This is pretty interesting to me honestly. PSG are stronger than their version which eliminated Bayern Munich before without Messi. I would have expected them to be the favourite by a slight margin here. Of course there is still a long time and we don't know if we see more injuries. But if we don't then I feel myself closer to PSG for now. The trio can do a great job in this.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 30, 2022, 06:41:30 PM

There is nothing wrong with Chelsea's squad presently if u ask me. As long as I know that the team lampard couldn't excel with, was later called the club world cup champions, and the UEFA champion league champions, I will continue saying that there is nothing wrong with Chelsea squad . If u check very well, there is no big difference between the 2021 champion league winner team and the present Poter team. The only noticeable difference is the management. Poter style of play is chelsea's only problem. He lacks tactics.

This current Chelsea team is still undergoing adjustments and improvement phase, clearly with time the team's performance will improve. I trust for Graham Potter to turn the situation around at Chelsea. Dortmund vs Chelsea will be an interesting game to watch as both sides don't have much differences in terms of form and performance level and both teams still have opportunity to improve especially with the coming January window. We will see how well they utilize this opportunity when the UCL resumes in February.

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Judging from the quality of the domestic leagues of the two teams, not underestimating my Bundesliga then I totally agree that Chelsea is probably better prepared than Borussia Dortmund. Yes, sometimes we cannot deny that the competitive differences of a league will affect teams participating in bigger competitions like the Champions League like this. Paris Saint Germain is the picture I will give when talking about this, what is Paris Saint Germain lacking? they have everything, even they are inhabited by star players, but in the Champions League they can't do more to compete with other teams.

The problems for Dortmund are now more visible. Currently, apart from Nkunku, Chelsea have now brought in Enzo from Benfica at a pretty fantastic price, so I think Chelsea will really overhaul their squad, especially for the attack line.
This is a real problem if Dortmund still uses the current squad, especially since the chances for Moukoko and Jude to leave are still very large. Dortmund need to add to their striking power in attack to make this interesting later.

There is nothing wrong with Chelsea's squad presently if u ask me. As long as I know that the team lampard couldn't excel with, was later called the club world cup champions, and the UEFA champion league champions, I will continue saying that there is nothing wrong with Chelsea squad . If u check very well, there is no big difference between the 2021 champion league winner team and the present Poter team. The only noticeable difference is the management. Poter style of play is chelsea's only problem. He lacks tactics.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 30, 2022, 01:57:31 PM

Judging from the quality of the domestic leagues of the two teams, not underestimating my Bundesliga then I totally agree that Chelsea is probably better prepared than Borussia Dortmund. Yes, sometimes we cannot deny that the competitive differences of a league will affect teams participating in bigger competitions like the Champions League like this. Paris Saint Germain is the picture I will give when talking about this, what is Paris Saint Germain lacking? they have everything, even they are inhabited by star players, but in the Champions League they can't do more to compete with other teams.

No doubt the domestic leagues each teams play in does has some sort of role in who is well prepared for the competition that lays ahead. The premier league is very competitive but yet they're not the most dominant force when it come to the champions league, the la Liga side is, as Real Madrid combined with other la Liga teams like Barcelona has more title than all premier league teams combined and also when ever they do meet at finals, the la Liga teams always have the advantages.

This means you shoudn't underate Dortmund just because they're coming from a lesser league. This is the champions league and the atmosphere here is totally different. Chelsea hasn't been very brilliant for we to think that this is going to be a work over match for them. If they want to progress they have to show very strong determination as I believe the game against Dortmund won't be an easy one but I still wish Chelsea all the success they'll need.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 30, 2022, 04:15:35 PM

EPL is the toughest of all the Europe leagues. That's why you see clubs in the EPL table who are already close to the relegation zone end up winning clubs in the top four tables of other leagues like Italy, Germany and France.
If u browse the result of the Europa matches played by England clubs like westham, Bournemouth, Brentford, Aston villa and many other England clubs who haven't crossed the EPL top-4 table for the past 7 years, you will understand that EPL is very tough. For that, one wouldn't underrate any England team in any Europe competition.

The English premier league has a huge advantage in comparison to the other european top football leagues. It gets significantly more money from the TV stations for the rights to broadcast the games than the other leagues. This means that even clubs that are in the bottom of the table of the premier league get more money from the TV rights then for example a top club in the italian, german or spanish league.
That being said, this does not automatically mean, that the premier league is also the best one. The fact that, every club gets a lot of money does also mean that every player gets more expensive. That is also the reason why premier league clubs are paying huge transfer fees for mediocre players.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 30, 2022, 01:57:31 PM

Judging from the quality of the domestic leagues of the two teams, not underestimating my Bundesliga then I totally agree that Chelsea is probably better prepared than Borussia Dortmund. Yes, sometimes we cannot deny that the competitive differences of a league will affect teams participating in bigger competitions like the Champions League like this. Paris Saint Germain is the picture I will give when talking about this, what is Paris Saint Germain lacking? they have everything, even they are inhabited by star players, but in the Champions League they can't do more to compete with other teams.

The problems for Dortmund are now more visible. Currently, apart from Nkunku, Chelsea have now brought in Enzo from Benfica at a pretty fantastic price, so I think Chelsea will really overhaul their squad, especially for the attack line.
This is a real problem if Dortmund still uses the current squad, especially since the chances for Moukoko and Jude to leave are still very large. Dortmund need to add to their striking power in attack to make this interesting later.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 30, 2022, 10:16:12 AM

Chelsea has better chance of winning Dortmund, no matter that Chelsea has been messing up before the world cup break doesn't mean you should underestimate them. When it comes to Champions league,they take their matches serious because there is a target which is the cup.

EPL is different from the UCL, EPL is one of the most toughest league that a player needs strength and stamina to survive, Dortmund is a different club which don't play the English style of football. UCL is more bigger than EPL and clubs performance in their various league should not be used to judge the UCL games

Judging from the quality of the domestic leagues of the two teams, not underestimating my Bundesliga then I totally agree that Chelsea is probably better prepared than Borussia Dortmund. Yes, sometimes we cannot deny that the competitive differences of a league will affect teams participating in bigger competitions like the Champions League like this. Paris Saint Germain is the picture I will give when talking about this, what is Paris Saint Germain lacking? they have everything, even they are inhabited by star players, but in the Champions League, they can't do more to compete with other teams.

EPL is the toughest of all the Europe leagues. That's why you see clubs in the EPL table who are already close to the relegation zone end up winning clubs in the top four tables of other leagues like Italy, Germany and France.
If u browse the result of the Europa matches played by England clubs like westham, Bournemouth, Brentford, Aston villa and many other England clubs who haven't crossed the EPL top-4 table for the past 7 years, you will understand that EPL is very tough. For that, one wouldn't underrate any England team in any Europe competition.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 30, 2022, 10:16:12 AM

Chelsea has better chance of winning Dortmund, no matter that Chelsea has been messing up before the world cup break doesn't mean you should underestimate them. When it comes to Champions league,they take their matches serious because there is a target which is the cup.

EPL is different from the UCL, EPL is one of the most toughest league that a player needs strength and stamina to survive, Dortmund is a different club which don't play the English style of football. UCL is more bigger than EPL and clubs performance in their various league should not be used to judge the UCL games

Judging from the quality of the domestic leagues of the two teams, not underestimating my Bundesliga then I totally agree that Chelsea is probably better prepared than Borussia Dortmund. Yes, sometimes we cannot deny that the competitive differences of a league will affect teams participating in bigger competitions like the Champions League like this. Paris Saint Germain is the picture I will give when talking about this, what is Paris Saint Germain lacking? they have everything, even they are inhabited by star players, but in the Champions League they can't do more to compete with other teams.

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Quote from: Altryist on December 30, 2022, 10:53:09 AM

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Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

Both teams have a very good attack, but in defense I think Chelsea should have an advantage. I suppose that Chelsea can win their home match and draw with Dortmund away, in general I think that Chelsea is stronger than Dortmund at the moment. And the fact that Chelsea will play the first match away is to some extent also an advantage, because they will play the second match at home. Let's see, the Premier League teams are already playing, and the Bendesliga is still resting, this is also not good for Dortmund.

It will be very difficult to predict who will win in this match, due to the fact that both teams have quite striking weaknesses. It could be that it is a match with shared wins and who is more deserving of going to the next duck is determined through aggregate goals, even from a penalty shootout. Even so, we should see the performance of these two teams before they actually meet in the match later.

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Even right now we have more than six weeks in this match but things looking impressive and having favorable for the Chelsea because they are improving their quality and performance as well which is going to help them for having better result against Borussia Dortmund which is badly down before break and now looking for few changes into their team in coming transfer window with Chelsea is also already in for the few changes which will surely improve things for them specially Moukoko arrival is big advantage for them with they are already having few good players.
Most chances Moukoko will be in Premier League instead of going into Barcelona because they already rejected his salary demand which was big for them in current bad situation so right now we have two London clubs in race for the signing which is most chances going into favour of Chelsea.

Chelsea is overall a good team, it's just a bit about the turmoil they went through which caused a little bit of trouble and now they are getting back to normal.
Remember, there was a period last year where they couldn't even feel sure about going to their games because their assets were frozen due to ownership sanctions, and they still did it with permissions and all but no team would be great when there is a discussion about them having their assets frozen like that. They have a totally new owner now and they are doing much better but that doesn't change the fact that they are doing something much better in the long run which is all that matters.

It may not be easy, but I believe more than two teams among 4 England teams , will qualify for the next champion league stage. Though I'm really confident about Tottenham and Manchester city, I don't think Liverpool will let Real Madrid pull their leg again this time. To me,
Real Madrid is the most dreadful team among all the teams in the round of 16. I rate them even above PSG and Bayern Munich as long as the champion league is consent. If Liverpool can survive real Madrid, they will become the closest team to the Champions League title, just like it was in Tuchel and Chelsea's case last season.

In this matchup, both of the teams are unexpectedly in the mid-tier of their league, which was not expected of them prior to this matchup. Dortmund or Chelsea teams are currently occupying the sixth and eighth positions respectively in their leagues at the moment. I was expecting them to be a bit higher on the table than they actually are, but even after that, I think that we will be having a very exciting match between them as both the teams are looking sharp after the World Cup in my opinion.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 30, 2022, 06:00:36 AM

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

Both teams have a very good attack, but in defense I think Chelsea should have an advantage. I suppose that Chelsea can win their home match and draw with Dortmund away, in general I think that Chelsea is stronger than Dortmund at the moment. And the fact that Chelsea will play the first match away is to some extent also an advantage, because they will play the second match at home. Let's see, the Premier League teams are already playing, and the Bendesliga is still resting, this is also not good for Dortmund.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 29, 2022, 11:22:48 PM

Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Depends on how they are going to be by that time. The reality is that Dortmund hasn't shown any recovery at all and they are still not anywhere near where they should be in Bundesliga, meaning they are still not playing great.

But, if we are talking about a team that could be beating them, then Chelsea is a great candidate for it because they are playing a lot better if you look at their current form compared to start of the season as well. I know it's not easy to separate the two from each other, but Chelsea of the last 4-5 games and Chelsea of the first 10 games is not the same team and that could be the difference maker between them.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 29, 2022, 11:22:48 PM

Chelsea vs Dortmund is a really evenly matched tie. I don’t see Chelsea as clear favourites at all, they’ve been average all season. A win against Bournemouth changes nothing really.

Dortmund are a good team, we’ve all seen what Bellingham can do. It should be two great games between them, highly competitive with hopefully, lots of goals.

Both team between Chelsea and Dortmund having underperformance right now and seems Chelsea is better with Primer League begin early than Bundesliga still waiting few weeks later, having impact with Dortmund need recovering and have few weeks for UEFA Champion League 16 round begin. Still not having top performance for Dortmund in this season actually after dropping to 6th standing position.

Still can changed with favorite team will lead to next round because few days later window transfer opening, between Dortmund and Chelsea which one team most compete and active in window transfer will help their achievement in Champion League, seems Chelsea have busy in this window transfer than Dortmund never have any rumor yet for recruiting new player.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 30, 2022, 07:11:24 AM

Chelsea have been extremely unstable this season, but Dortmund are no better. Looking behind which teams both clubs are in the domestic leagues, Chelsea have a much more solid list of names than Dortmund. I also hope to see an equal fight in this pair with more goals, but the likelihood that Dortmund will fail and perform worse than their average level is higher.

I doubt with the performance from chelsea. This club didn't have any striker that was contributing a lot to the club. I would not even count aubameyang as striker for chelsea caused by he did nothing for the club. It can be considered as failed transfer for chelsea to sign him. The problem will be also happening with dortmund. There have been many rumours about various big clubs interested to sign some of key players. that will be greatly affecting the performance from dortmund.
That will make both chelsea and dortmund will be on the unstable condition once they were facing in the UCL match in february. I hope that chelsea will be winning the match against dortmund in the first leg.

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Chelsea has better chance of winning Dortmund, no matter that Chelsea has been messing up before the world cup break doesn't mean you should underestimate them. When it comes to Champions league,they take their matches serious because there is a target which is the cup.

EPL is different from the UCL, EPL is one of the most toughest league that a player needs strength and stamina to survive, Dortmund is a different club which don't play the English style of football. UCL is more bigger than EPL and clubs performance in their various league should not be used to judge the UCL games

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 30, 2022, 06:28:33 AM

there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund Wink

IMO, I see that Potter is still doing experiments for the right formation and strategy for his squad. Graham Potter's team haven't shown their best performance yet, that's why Potter is still doing some experiments for the most appropriate formation. and as we all know, that the second half of the season has just begun. Potter still has plenty of time to prepare his squad for the round of 16 match later, while also waiting for several of his players to recover from their injuries.

As for Dortmund, Edin Terzic's troops are having a bad season in their domestic league competition and are not much different from the current state of Chelsea. even reportedly, some of their star players will leave at the end of this season. for sure, we cannot compare or predict this match later. because anything can still happen, Dortmund also still has the opportunity to improve their performance. the round of 16 match will still have a long time lag, which is certain that these two teams will prepare their troops for the match later.

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We are almost halfway through the Dortmund-Chelsea match! I find that both teams appear to be quite balanced to me, but I feel Chelsea might have an edge over Dortmund in this matchup.

Based on what you have said, I think Dortmund lack both attacking and defensive options compared to Chelsea. This is because I perceive Chelsea have a greater range of attacking options, as well as having the great wall of Thiago Silva to help them out defensively. As long as Chelsea can manage to defend well, I do not think there will be much problem for them in beating Dortmund.

The last five marches between Burrusia Dortmund was balanced. Chelsea won two and Dortmund one two and they drew one. There are speculations of Dortmund losing some of their key players before the march on February 5th. Jude Bellingham is a key target of Real Madrid and Liverpool. While Youssoufa Moukoko is been linked to Manchester United. We are seeing the Chelsea team going through some reinforcement through new signings and a prospect of even signing mnoe players.

Hopefully, Reece James would be in the march after recovering from his injury. From my current performance, I am speculating that Chelsea would win the match comfortably.

When it comes to Europe top teams and club you cannot rate Dortmund over Chelsea. Even if they seem balanced right that game will still see Chelsea winning that game. Jude Bellingham has been linked away while Kudus if Ghana has been linked to replace him at Borrussia Dortmund. Moukoko hasn't been signed by Dortmund yet? Man United are linked to David Jonathan lately that's the updated news.
He is a good player, Recce James should be back, I don't know what is lacking and wrong with Chelsea medical team, why didn't they nurse his Injury very well.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 30, 2022, 06:28:33 AM

there is still time to watch the Chelsea vs Dortmund match in February in the last 16 matches of the champions league and while waiting they still have to face several matches in the league that they have to fight against at least while honing their skills after the break due to the 2022 world cup yesterday, to be honest I'm not a Chelsea lover but I think I would like to bet on Chelsea in the match against Dortmund Wink

Chelsea and Dortmund both have something in common this season, namely not being in the top 4 of the standings in their respective regular leagues and this will make the match for the two teams in the champions league even more exciting, considering the depth of the squad which has similar things so this will be quite a match balanced. Contrary to those of you who bet on Chelsea, I will bet on Dortmund in the round of 16 later because for the first leg Dortmund are the hosts and will definitely have the advantage of playing at home plus getting the support of the fans.

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Quote from: hahay on December 30, 2022, 07:12:36 AM

So for me, it's clear that to predict Dortmund and Chelsea it's not enough only with the final results of the matches that are happening right now. But indeed, both at this moment do not seem to have a significant difference in the quality of their performance so far this season.
So of course, any result can happen, because Chelsea is still very unstable under the new coach and because of this instability, Chelsea could play well or maybe play very badly in the match later.

The match will be held in 1.5 months, meaning there are 45 days for both teams to prepare for the match, both of them have the same opportunity, Chelsea are still struggling to improve any deficiencies in their squad as well as Dortmund who are no better than their opponents later and results in the league can be very different in the Champions League and that provides an opportunity for both of them to achieve results better than those achieved in the local league

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