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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2022, 07:42:33 AM

IMO, we can't claim Nunez failed because the season isn't over yet. There are still many matches to prove his ability as a top striker. Signing Gakpo doesn't mean replacing Nunez, Jürgen Klopp may put him alongside Nunez on Liverpool attacking line. Gakpo-Nunez-Salah seems promising enough, I expect Klopp to try this combination.

By the way, every new signing is always gambling, no guarantee a top player to succeed in any team. Even a superstar like Hazard and Bale, failed in Real Madrid. However, Klopp must have a strong reason why he chooses Gakpo. He won't sign carelessly for a player who is worth around €60m. Gakpo is a young attacker and he can play in some positions, this can be two reasons why Klopp signs him.

I don't totally agreed many opinion about Darwin Nunez failure with Liverpool trough 15 matches played in Primer League and still have many matches left later. Last night his appearance against Aston Villa he has great contribution how to make space for other player can scoring goals.

I think have possibility with Liverpool attacking line after arriving Cody Gakpo between Salah, Nunez and Gakpo but still possibility with Nunez losing his space if Firmino have consistency performance later. Gakpo become best alternative option for Liverpool because he can play more than two position and give advantage for Klopp when having problem with other player injured.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 28, 2022, 09:21:59 AM

I'm not sure, Gakpo will replace Nunez's position. except, if Klopp pairs two stickers on the front lines. IMO, Cody Gakpo will play as a winger like his original position when playing with PSV. The presence of Gakpo with The Red is expected to boost the sharpness of their front line. I'm sure it won't take Cody Gakpo long to adapt to Liverpool later. and maybe, his presence at Liverpool will boost Nunez's performance later. or maybe, it could be that Klopp prefers Gakpo as a center forward. after all, he is a young player who is multi-talented and can be placed as a forward striker.

and now, we are just waiting to see which players Klopp will bring to Anfield later. most likely, Klopp will bring in an attacking midfielder. so, it seems that Liverpool are really preparing to restore their performance. especially preparing his troops to face Real Madrid.

On the Madrid side, so far there has been no official statement from El Real to bring in players this January. this is interesting, I want to see Liverpool's performance later, especially in the Champions League.

Gakpo can slot in as a false nine and with Firmino almost likely to leave I think that's where he will be used more often if Luiz Diaz return from injury. Nunez needs to step up and with Gakpo around is position isn't secure again.
Liverpool are in For Enzo Fernandez although he seems too expensive but he is surely what they need.

Real Madrid are not a big fan of Winter transfer so it is not surprising seeing them quite this transfer period.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 27, 2022, 11:48:55 PM

Nunez has become a failed striker for liverpool. There have been bunch of memes created by liverpudlians for him caused by he was always missing the golden opportunity to make the goal. gakpo has become a new bet for liverpool. We will see whether gakpo will become a successful transfer by liverpool or he will did nothing like nunez. This is gambling that has been taken by liverpool. It seems like that klopp didn't feel satisfied with the performance from nunez. glad to see that liverpool bought another striker.

I'm not sure, Gakpo will replace Nunez's position. except, if Klopp pairs two stickers on the front lines. IMO, Cody Gakpo will play as a winger like his original position when playing with PSV. The presence of Gakpo with The Red is expected to boost the sharpness of their front line. I'm sure it won't take Cody Gakpo long to adapt to Liverpool later. and maybe, his presence at Liverpool will boost Nunez's performance later. or maybe, it could be that Klopp prefers Gakpo as a center forward. after all, he is a young player who is multi-talented and can be placed as a forward striker.

and now, we are just waiting to see which players Klopp will bring to Anfield later. most likely, Klopp will bring in an attacking midfielder. so, it seems that Liverpool are really preparing to restore their performance. especially preparing his troops to face Real Madrid.

On the Madrid side, so far there has been no official statement from El Real to bring in players this January. this is interesting, I want to see Liverpool's performance later, especially in the Champions League.

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Nunez is a talented player. But he is unable to adapt himself to the Liverpool team. Liverpool management had high expectations from Nunez. Nunez was brought in by Liverpool as a replacement for Sadio Mane. But he is not playing well. The coach should give Nunez his full support. I believe that with enough support from the coach and if Nunez is diligent, he can play well with Liverpool.

The Liverpool coach actually has to provide support for all the players who have joined the team in every season including this season, which is not only aimed at someone like Darwin Nunez even though the player was brought in to Liverpool to replace Sadio Mane who had gone to the team other. Because Liverpool's target now for the rest of this season is to win more matches by continuing to get points in every game so that they can continue to be in the competitive path with other great teams in the Champions League and also in their own local league.

Darwin nunez didn't even meet what already speculated by so many parties. The performance that shows by darwin is far compared with sadio mane when he was still in liverpool. gakpo has been considered as a solution for the liverpool's striker. I hope that if with the come of gakpo will make liverpool even beter. Darwin was a very bad in the final execution for the any chance that already come to him. It seems like that jurgen was also feeling frustated with him and that's why jurgen was sending van dijk to hijack gakpo from MU.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on December 28, 2022, 07:42:33 AM

IMO, we can't claim Nunez failed because the season isn't over yet. There are still many matches to prove his ability as a top striker.

Nunez is over assessed because of his transfer cost that is insanely expensive. If we exclude his transfer cost, he has acceptable performance after several first matches in Premier League in his first season there. It is not easy for all players with their first season in Premier League. To assess Nunez better, I think we must wait for season 2023 - 2024 because after one season there, if he fails in a second season, it's clearly his failure.

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Signing Gakpo doesn't mean replacing Nunez, Jürgen Klopp may put him alongside Nunez on Liverpool attacking line. Gakpo-Nunez-Salah seems promising enough, I expect Klopp to try this combination.

Liverpool sign with Gakpo because of injuries from two attacking players: Diaz and Jota. They found Gakpo as a suitable replacement and succeeded to bring him to Anfield with support from Van Dijk. These players are both important in Netherlands and Van Dijk is a captain so he has somewhat ability to convince Gakpo to join Liverpool.

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By the way, every new signing is always gambling, no guarantee a top player to succeed in any team. Even a superstar like Hazard and Bale, failed in Real Madrid. However, Klopp must have a strong reason why he chooses Gakpo. He won't sign carelessly for a player who is worth around €60m. Gakpo is a young attacker and he can play in some positions, this can be two reasons why Klopp signs him.

Gakpo can play at many positions which I believe what Klopp really likes in this player. Gakpo can be another Firmino for Liverpool and he can release pressure for Nunez too. Liverpool might also not change their formation because of Nunez. They can use their same tactics like for Salah, Firmino and Mane. I feel that they will have a good combination from Diaz, Salah and Gakpo with Salah and Diaz at two swings and Gakpo at the center.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 27, 2022, 11:48:55 PM

Nunez has become a failed striker for liverpool. There have been bunch of memes created by liverpudlians for him caused by he was always missing the golden opportunity to make the goal. gakpo has become a new bet for liverpool. We will see whether gakpo will become a successful transfer by liverpool or he will did nothing like nunez. This is gambling that has been taken by liverpool. It seems like that klopp didn't feel satisfied with the performance from nunez. glad to see that liverpool bought another striker.

IMO, we can't claim Nunez failed because the season isn't over yet. There are still many matches to prove his ability as a top striker. Signing Gakpo doesn't mean replacing Nunez, Jürgen Klopp may put him alongside Nunez on Liverpool attacking line. Gakpo-Nunez-Salah seems promising enough, I expect Klopp to try this combination.

By the way, every new signing is always gambling, no guarantee a top player to succeed in any team. Even a superstar like Hazard and Bale, failed in Real Madrid. However, Klopp must have a strong reason why he chooses Gakpo. He won't sign carelessly for a player who is worth around €60m. Gakpo is a young attacker and he can play in some positions, this can be two reasons why Klopp signs him.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 27, 2022, 11:48:55 PM

Nunez has become a failed striker for liverpool. There have been bunch of memes created by liverpudlians for him caused by he was always missing the golden opportunity to make the goal. gakpo has become a new bet for liverpool. We will see whether gakpo will become a successful transfer by liverpool or he will did nothing like nunez. This is gambling that has been taken by liverpool. It seems like that klopp didn't feel satisfied with the performance from nunez. glad to see that liverpool bought another striker.

It seems that until now indeed he failed to meet the target as a replacement for Mane. His fate is like Hazard in madrid, but he is indeed new to come and I think it still takes a lot of opportunities to be trusted. I once wrote, maybe Klopp could give him the option to lend him first. Then in January they can buy a replacement to accompany Moh Salah. To this day it is too short to decide Nunez's purchase failed because of the time not long in the EPL. First I thought he was going to compete with Haaland but I was wrong.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 28, 2022, 03:14:32 AM

Nunez is a talented player. But he is unable to adapt himself to the Liverpool team. Liverpool management had high expectations from Nunez. Nunez was brought in by Liverpool as a replacement for Sadio Mane. But he is not playing well. The coach should give Nunez his full support. I believe that with enough support from the coach and if Nunez is diligent, he can play well with Liverpool.

The Liverpool coach actually has to provide support for all the players who have joined the team in every season including this season, which is not only aimed at someone like Darwin Nunez even though the player was brought in to Liverpool to replace Sadio Mane who had gone to the team other. Because Liverpool's target now for the rest of this season is to win more matches by continuing to get points in every game so that they can continue to be in the competitive path with other great teams in the Champions League and also in their own local league.

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Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Liverpool is always gambling to get a new attacker, one of them is Nunez and now, try to gamble with Gakpo. I followed this guy in PSV, he is the top scorer on Eredivisie and Ajax is also interesting to him. but, he have good motivated to play on the big club, I believe Liverpool is his dream for long time. But, we know, premier league is not he same like eredivisie, he will get hard competition between outside and inside club. if lose shine he will get the same as another player.

Nunez has become a failed striker for liverpool. There have been bunch of memes created by liverpudlians for him caused by he was always missing the golden opportunity to make the goal. gakpo has become a new bet for liverpool. We will see whether gakpo will become a successful transfer by liverpool or he will did nothing like nunez. This is gambling that has been taken by liverpool. It seems like that klopp didn't feel satisfied with the performance from nunez. glad to see that liverpool bought another striker.

Nunez is a talented player. But he is unable to adapt himself to the Liverpool team. Liverpool management had high expectations from Nunez. Nunez was brought in by Liverpool as a replacement for Sadio Mane. But he is not playing well. The coach should give Nunez his full support. I believe that with enough support from the coach and if Nunez is diligent, he can play well with Liverpool.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 27, 2022, 02:12:38 PM

I'm not really surprised to see Liverpool play like they did against aston villa. Liverpool has displayed such performance against many clubs this season, the only issue is that they are not consistent. Liverpool may win against Aston villa but may draw or lose against Leicester city, with that I can't tell they can stand against real Madrid even with their last match performance because it has been the same since the beginning of the season. Moreover, Madrid has a better record against Liverpool in their last five matches, I don't think there will be a difference this time.

Yes, I totally agree with you, Liverpool's main problem right now is about their consistency in every game. They don't have that at the moment.

Quote from: tulusikhlas on December 27, 2022, 02:22:24 PM

It's true, Real Madrid have a mentality that no other team has, I see now they are the best team in terms of mentality. And also I agree, even if Real Madrid loses their first leg match, they are a team that can turn things around very well, no matter how little time is left, they can make the most of it. Not only have I seen this once or twice, in fact most of their matches last season in the Champions League were done the same way.

Yes, we believe because they did it not just by chance, I mean not just one time, but over a period of time. Do you remember when they were already behind Atletico Madrid in the 2014 UCL Final, but at the end of time, they were able to reverse their situation.

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It's a slap on Real Madrid to compare their status with that of Aston Villa.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 27, 2022, 09:46:28 PM

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Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Liverpool is always gambling to get a new attacker, one of them is Nunez and now, try to gamble with Gakpo. I followed this guy in PSV, he is the top scorer on Eredivisie and Ajax is also interesting to him. but, he have good motivated to play on the big club, I believe Liverpool is his dream for long time. But, we know, premier league is not he same like eredivisie, he will get hard competition between outside and inside club. if lose shine he will get the same as another player.

Nunez has become a failed striker for liverpool. There have been bunch of memes created by liverpudlians for him caused by he was always missing the golden opportunity to make the goal. gakpo has become a new bet for liverpool. We will see whether gakpo will become a successful transfer by liverpool or he will did nothing like nunez. This is gambling that has been taken by liverpool. It seems like that klopp didn't feel satisfied with the performance from nunez. glad to see that liverpool bought another striker.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 27, 2022, 12:07:32 AM

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Gakpo performed well in PSV too and he has good statistics for PSV. His performance for Netherlands in World Cup 2022 is a confirmation for his ability and his value increases because of this. Many big clubs hesitated to buy him before World Cup 2022 but now if they want to buy him, cost would be more expensive. Anyway, he already joined Liverpool so if other big clubs want him, they will have to wait.

Quote from: blue Snow on December 27, 2022, 09:46:28 PM

Liverpool is always gambling to get a new attacker, one of them is Nunez and now, try to gamble with Gakpo. I followed this guy in PSV, he is the top scorer on Eredivisie and Ajax is also interesting to him. but, he have good motivated to play on the big club, I believe Liverpool is his dream for long time. But, we know, premier league is not he same like eredivisie, he will get hard competition between outside and inside club. if lose shine he will get the same as another player.

I disagree with them by the expensive transfer for Nunez but in the past, they succeeded with many attacking players, Salah, Mane, Firmino, Jota, Diaz. They are all good players for Liverpool and did performed well for them.

The expensive transfer for Nunez is insane and it can be a start of uncontrolled transfer strategy in Liverpool. I hope that Liverpool won't follow a collapsing strategy of Barcelona.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 27, 2022, 12:07:32 AM

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Liverpool is always gambling to get a new attacker, one of them is Nunez and now, try to gamble with Gakpo. I followed this guy in PSV, he is the top scorer on Eredivisie and Ajax is also interesting to him. but, he have good motivated to play on the big club, I believe Liverpool is his dream for long time. But, we know, premier league is not he same like eredivisie, he will get hard competition between outside and inside club. if lose shine he will get the same as another player.

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I don't know why you guys only discuss between Liverpool and Real Madrid while we're still on top 16 elimination, there's many other big clubs that has higher chance to win e.g. Napoli, Benfica, Manchester City, PSG, AC Milan and Bayern Munich.

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

It's the most talked about fixture in the round of 16 probably because of the pedegree of both clubs in the competition. This is isn't just any fixture but a repeat of last seasons Final. It's a game between Englands greatest champions league club against the biggest club in the competition. Matches like Bayern against PSG will be breathtaking but this one should be more intense considering how far both teams usually go in the competition. Having to face each other seems so early and it will be a big disappointment for any of the team to get knocked out so early

With the presence of Gakpo in the Liverpool squad, it will obviously increase their confidence, but still, from another perspective, Madrid is still very strong, especially considering their performance in the previous group phase. I actually still hope there will be some additions from Madrid but even if there isn't I still hope that later Benzema will be able to play and not have problems because this is something quite important. It's a revenge mission for Liverpool but looking at the previous 2 matches in the final they always lost and of course this makes Madrid more confident to look further.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 27, 2022, 11:58:27 AM

Their record of meetings in the last few matches is clearly in favor of Real Madrid, they always have their own way to break all the advantages that Liverpool have. Real Madrid beat Liverpool at a time when Liverpool were many favorites to beat Real Madrid. But now things are turning around because Liverpool themselves are in no better condition than last season, they even tend to decline a lot.

With the experience that Real Madrid has when dealing with and beating Liverpool it will benefit them a lot, because they can already anticipate what Jurgen Klopp will do in the strategy that he will apply later.

Most of the time, these records are just for broken and then having new entries most chances things going on same level in coming days because right now after break Liverpool looking more confident and stronger even they are still conceding goals but things looking much better for them and with this performance they can do good performance against Real Madrid in coming match which is surely one of the most entertaining for this round matches because both teams having good romantic link into Champions League and now one is looking for defending his title and second want to do something amazing for the next season.

Liverpool was not good in early rounds of the Premier League, but they improved and now having better winning unit with now they are looking for few quality players which are going to improve their performance and quality for the coming matches.

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I watched Liverpool's performance yesterday against Aston Villa. Their performance is now much more organized than before. Liverpool played very well against Aston Villa. If they can put up such a performance against Real Madrid, it will be very difficult for Madrid to beat Liverpool. Without Benzema, Madrid's attack is not strong enough. I don't think it's possible to beat Liverpool with a weak attack.

Real Madrid is very different from other teams, even though they are players capable of destroying Liverpool's defense, they still have the mentality of being champions. That's the one thing most feared by the teams that will face Real Madrid. Maybe we'll see Real Madrid lose when they play at Anfield, but when the second leg, maybe we'll see the opposite result. In essence, whatever happens in the first leg later, believe me, Real Madrid can turn the result around.

It's a slap on Real Madrid to compare their status with that of Aston Villa. Liverpool got them and that's cool to say there defense structure was bad to some points but I don't expect Real Madrid to live it's defense with open space like Aston villa and Liverpool played.

To say that Real Madrid had 14 trophies of Champions league in their gallery, don't you think Liverpool would want to go 2nd place and break record too, they wouldn't want to go easy on Real Madrid, the same energy Real Madrid would want to return back as they would want to remain the championship in this league. I believe that both in the first and second leg, No way Real Madrid will be sleeping on this trophy except what I'm not seeing occur.

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I think Liverpool will take revenge for their previous defeat and this is an opportunity for Liverpool to meet Real Madrid again in the top 16, even though Real Madrid has the potential to win again but of course stay alert to Liverpool's game which might surprise them in the match

It's good if they can get revenge but when you look at the previous 2 matches something like this is still very difficult for Liverpool.
The final match last season actually dominated them very well but Madrid also played very well and they seemed to read Liverpool's movements and attack patterns and it is possible that something like this will happen again this time.
Madrid are always unpredictable and always able to overcome the problems they face and this time it is a little more difficult for Liverpool with their Champions League form which has not been too flashy this season.

With most chances no team will go into ground for the revenge because we all know they are mostly professional, and they never think about these matters and have their own way for winning and playing better, same going to happen in this game as well in next February as well right now both teams are having impressive record in their respective leagues which is giving them good confidence with quality is amazing as well most chances Liverpool will bring few quality players which will help them for having better results.

Real Madrid is suffering due to Karim Benzema, and they are also looking for suitable replacement, but their current squad is also having the best quality and many impressive players those are capable of giving their best in all conditions and circumstance's now most chances this break could be good for these both teams and their performance into Champions League.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 27, 2022, 12:07:32 AM

I don't know why you guys only discuss between Liverpool and Real Madrid while we're still on top 16 elimination, there's many other big clubs that has higher chance to win e.g. Napoli, Benfica, Manchester City, PSG, AC Milan and Bayern Munich.

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Changing the team is not always a good thing, going to a better team and failing there doesn't mean you are a bad player, it just means you are not fit for their tactic, you could take Nunez and give him to some other team and he could play amazingly there as well, or maybe send him back to Benfica and suddenly he is not as good as he used to be even there.

It's all about how you use a player, and also there are situations where they are on fire for a season and that's it, it's their best season and you buy them based on that best season. I am not saying that it's going to be Nunez like this forever, but just check to see if player would fit your system before you buy them.

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Quote from: AakZaki on December 27, 2022, 02:51:43 PM

Quote from: Despairo on December 27, 2022, 12:07:32 AM

I don't know why you guys only discuss between Liverpool and Real Madrid while we're still on top 16 elimination, there's many other big clubs that has higher chance to win e.g. Napoli, Benfica, Manchester City, PSG, AC Milan and Bayern Munich.

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

Maybe they are fans of those two teams. Indeed, at the moment the two clubs are quite interesting for us to discuss, because liverpool dropped drastically in strength after Mane left. Then Madrid were the defending champions. Liverpool played well in the UCL but poorly in the League. At the moment Madrid have not been able to overcome the difficulties if Benzema is injured.
Indeed at the moment we are in the top 16 but I am a Madrid fan. I wish Madrid the championship again this season.

Apart from that, also because they met several times in the Champions League, and it was a victory for Real Madrid. This is what makes many people curious about the final result of the match. Will Liverpool improve their meeting record, or will Liverpool be beaten again by Real Madrid in the last 16 of this.
By the way, Real Madrid are the only La Liga team in this Champions League, I think that will also motivate them to stay here.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 27, 2022, 12:07:32 AM

I don't know why you guys only discuss between Liverpool and Real Madrid while we're still on top 16 elimination, there's many other big clubs that has higher chance to win e.g. Napoli, Benfica, Manchester City, PSG, AC Milan and Bayern Munich.

Cody Gakpo show a good performance for Netherlands in the world cup, but we don't know about his performance in Liverpool. What if Gakpo is similar like Nunez? Nunez was a sharp striker in Benfica, but he doesn't a same performance when he joined Liverpool.

It's the most talked about fixture in the round of 16 probably because of the pedegree of both clubs in the competition. This is isn't just any fixture but a repeat of last seasons Final. It's a game between Englands greatest champions league club against the biggest club in the competition. Matches like Bayern against PSG will be breathtaking but this one should be more intense considering how far both teams usually go in the competition. Having to face each other seems so early and it will be a big disappointment for any of the team to get knocked out so early

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