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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

I agree to say Mbappe is a selfish player, but he is lucky enough because his selfishness goes hand in hand with his very good performances in the team as well as in the national team. If not then there will be a lot of negative narrative to him now. But there was still time for him to suppress his selfish attitude going forward, because it would be detrimental to himself if he didn't get rid of the selfish attitude he had displayed so far. I'm sure if he is more mature then he will be more able to bring out all the abilities he has.

You might say Mbappe is a selfish player,I think it is natural for human to behave this way, Messi is his rival and this will motivate Mbappe to add more effort in other to be better than his rival. If he is taking it personal then it will not bring out the best in him as it might affect him psychological.

He should play with free mind and work hard,he has made records at his age,Messi will soon get old and will not be able to be as active as he is now,then Mbappe can become the legend without no rival. He won the last world cup and this world cup highest goal scorer, he should be satisfied with these great achievement. PSG has a match to play with Bayern Munich,their corporation matters a lot for them to win the match

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Quote from: skarais on December 22, 2022, 08:58:17 AM

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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

I agree to say Mbappe is a selfish player, but he is lucky enough because his selfishness goes hand in hand with his very good performances in the team as well as in the national team. If not then there will be a lot of negative narrative to him now. But there was still time for him to suppress his selfish attitude going forward, because it would be detrimental to himself if he didn't get rid of the selfish attitude he had displayed so far. I'm sure if he is more mature then he will be more able to bring out all the abilities he has.

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Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 22, 2022, 08:50:12 AM

It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

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Quote from: skarais on December 22, 2022, 07:25:09 AM

Everyone knows Mbappe's qualities, he is quick and very dangerous on the ball. The World Cup final will be remembered and I'm sure he will return in the future, there are still many opportunities due to his young age. So Mbappe shouldn't be stuck in disappointment for long, and I think he will maintain the same form in the league and Champion League too.

PSG this season have looked to convince me in the Champion League and they are one of the favourites. The toughest test right now is how PSG beat Bayern Munich, but I think they can do it. Messi, Neymar and Mbappe's partnership has been excellent so far and it seems right to wish them success.

It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 22, 2022, 01:56:54 AM

Mbappe's performance will never be forgotten. Even though Kylian Mbappe didn't win the World Cup for France, he played his heart out for his country. What would it be like to score a hat-trick and lose the World Cup final? This is truly heartbreaking. His name is also known in France like that of Zidane. Fans can choose to support Mbappe, but the respect he commands cannot be denied! Kylian Mbappé, the star of the show, practiced at PSG's camp yesterday. There will be a Messi back in a PSG shirt soon.

Everyone knows Mbappe's qualities, he is quick and very dangerous on the ball. The World Cup final will be remembered and I'm sure he will return in the future, there are still many opportunities due to his young age. So Mbappe shouldn't be stuck in disappointment for long, and I think he will maintain the same form in the league and Champion League too.

PSG this season have looked to convince me in the Champion League and they are one of the favourites. The toughest test right now is how PSG beat Bayern Munich, but I think they can do it. Messi, Neymar and Mbappe's partnership has been excellent so far and it seems right to wish them success.

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Quote from: makishart on December 22, 2022, 02:31:07 AM

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Both Mbappe and Messi were very outstanding in the World Cup, moreover, in the final, Mbappe was exactly super enough. Although his team lost to Argentina, we all know how the his performance of Mbappe, is really outstanding.
If both Messi and Mbappe are really able to unite their strength, solid, and also support each other, actually, PSG should be the strongest team right now. However, they also still have Neymar who is also very talented and his performance is also awesome enough so far. They also have a strong defense, like Hakimi that will probably become more motivated after the World Cup, and still many talented and string players there. But, we know that with this lineup, PSG was not able to rise the UCL trophy in the previous season. Are so many superstars of footballs in a club playing together at one time will not effective because of too much focus on different players? Well, the UCL will be started on Feb 15. And this will not be easy because PSG will meet Bayern. Actually, with the squad lineups, PSG should be stronger and win the match, except that Mbappe probability to transfer to another club as expected.

The rumour about mbappe to be linked to the real madrid is coming again and recently real madrid rumoured has been preparing very big amounts of money for mbappe. It seems like that PSG disallowed messi to show off his world cup trophy in parc des prince caused by messi was playing in the france and that will be emotionally affecting france's players who played for PSG.

I think that the decision that already taken by PSG was the best one. Messi must care when most of his team mates were also playing in france. Remember that so many argentina fans were mocking france's players. I think that PSG's decision being taken as a prevention to make sure there will be no conflict in the club caused by PSG will be facing bayern next year. PSG needs to make sure its club has a good environment for the players.

I feel like that is a normal thing to ask, not because of teammates alone, but because of the fact that they are in France. Mbappe could be upset that they lost, but he has one already, dude got his first world cup when he was 18-19 years old or something, and now he has scored a hattrick and lost on finals of another, that is sad but it is not the same as a guy who is 35 years old and played his last world cup game.

I am guessing that Mbappe could win another one in the future, Messi can't. So, the reason for the teammate thing is not that much of a big deal, but they are in France, fans would be upset, that's a much more viable reason than upsetting teammates.

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There would be a contradicted between mbappe and messi. I know that how harsh argentina fans were mocking mbappe by losing against argentina but those people forgot that if mbappe has even won world cup title in 2018.
If both can work together and that will be so good for PSG but i think that there will be a contradiction between both. As far as i can see some season already passed by mbappe and messi in PSG without champion league trophy.

Both Mbappe and Messi were very outstanding in the World Cup, moreover, in the final, Mbappe was exactly super enough. Although his team lost to Argentina, we all know how the his performance of Mbappe, is really outstanding.
If both Messi and Mbappe are really able to unite their strength, solid, and also support each other, actually, PSG should be the strongest team right now. However, they also still have Neymar who is also very talented and his performance is also awesome enough so far. They also have a strong defense, like Hakimi that will probably become more motivated after the World Cup, and still many talented and string players there. But, we know that with this lineup, PSG was not able to rise the UCL trophy in the previous season. Are so many superstars of footballs in a club playing together at one time will not effective because of too much focus on different players? Well, the UCL will be started on Feb 15. And this will not be easy because PSG will meet Bayern. Actually, with the squad lineups, PSG should be stronger and win the match, except that Mbappe probability to transfer to another club as expected.

The rumour about mbappe to be linked to the real madrid is coming again and recently real madrid rumoured has been preparing very big amounts of money for mbappe. It seems like that PSG disallowed messi to show off his world cup trophy in parc des prince caused by messi was playing in the france and that will be emotionally affecting france's players who played for PSG.

I think that the decision that already taken by PSG was the best one. Messi must care when most of his team mates were also playing in france. Remember that so many argentina fans were mocking france's players. I think that PSG's decision being taken as a prevention to make sure there will be no conflict in the club caused by PSG will be facing bayern next year. PSG needs to make sure its club has a good environment for the players.

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Quote from: Iroh on December 21, 2022, 07:46:05 PM

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Mbappe's performance in the World Cup was very good. But due to the poor performance of his teammates, France could not become champions. Football is all about a team game. It is difficult to win if you do not perform well as a team. I think Mbappe has definitely learned from that performance in France. He definitely understands how important team performance is. Although the France squad is comparatively stronger than the Argentina squad, they cannot play well. I think Mbappe will now change his style of play like a sailfish. And he will try to fit in with the other players on the team.

Mbappe played beautifully well. It was obvious with his golden boot award for the most goals scored during the tournament. But a game of football is played with all players and no matter how good a single player is, the player alone cannot possibly do everything. Football is a team game and must be played with the teammates in sync with each other. Argentina played superbly and had a well deserved win. True, the France side was looking much better and perhaps more favored to win, they went ahead and lost the game as the game went into penalties.
Well, you win some, you lose some. You can’t always win them all. Congratulations to Argentina. Can’t wait to see Messi back, playing football in a PSG shirt.

Mbappe's performance will never be forgotten. Even though Kylian Mbappe didn't win the World Cup for France, he played his heart out for his country. What would it be like to score a hat-trick and lose the World Cup final? This is truly heartbreaking. His name is also known in France like that of Zidane. Fans can choose to support Mbappe, but the respect he commands cannot be denied! Kylian Mbappé, the star of the show, practiced at PSG's camp yesterday. There will be a Messi back in a PSG shirt soon.

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Quote from: X-ray on December 21, 2022, 11:12:51 AM

Haaland is still young but many people have very big expectations for him to become the next legendary players. We have seen the legendary players become even older like ronaldo and messi. This is the time for us to see another young talented player like haaland to become the next potential legendary player in the future. Haaland can also become the same like benzema which has been making so many great achievements with real madrid. Halaand some day will make a great achievement too but i do agree about haaland needs to get more experience from playing in the big clubs like city and as he said that if he wanna try all of leagues.

Now with the end of this world cup we have end of an era and new generation players like Haaland, Mbappé and Bellingham are going to have their own impact with too many from different countries will be joined them in this race because now soccer is one of the most popular game on planet, and we have thousands of players those want to give their best and have chance to be best, but now race is on for these players now who could be next goat or legendary time will tell us about this all.

In this world cup we have few extraordinary performances from few players like Messi and Mbappé and at the end Messi gone with the tag of GOAT and Mbappé is ended with the legendary player as he has done amazing stuff with score most goals for his team specially in final his hat trick is surely one of the most amazing stuff from any player.

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It is going to be a very difficult game though and I would not be surprised if PSG would get eliminated although chances for me for them to be eliminated are real slim,as long as Messi and Mbappe are playing in the same team,PSG then there is nothing to worry I would say.

If both players can combine well on the field, of course there is a great chance of winning. The skills of these two PSG players are the best so far. However, in most clubs that have the ability to attack, their defense is very weak. Their opponents will take advantage of counterattacks in these conditions.

There would be a contradicted between mbappe and messi. I know that how harsh argentina fans were mocking mbappe by losing against argentina but those people forgot that if mbappe has even won world cup title in 2018.
If both can work together and that will be so good for PSG but i think that there will be a contradiction between both. As far as i can see some season already passed by mbappe and messi in PSG without champion league trophy.
The way to get UCL is even harder since this time so many teams were focusing to regenerate their players. Let's see how mbappe will be responding his team mate messi once both work together again in SPG

So far Messi and Mbappe are very close, only their fans keep them away. Messi and Mbappe will to play professionally for PSG, being in the same boat won't look good if there are contradictions, but considering the previous rumors of Mbappe and Neymar it could be true that your statement has some truth, it doesn't close possibility either. UCL every season is very interesting but this season will be even more interesting, we see other talented young players, like Erling Haaland and Goncalo Ramos. I believe the way to get trophy UCL will not be easy for PSG even also for other clubs.

At the start of the season, PSG had plenty of infighting within their squad. But Galtier is an experienced coach. He has been able to solve most of the problems within the party. And now PSG's performance is very stable. And the performance of three players Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in this World Cup has impressed everyone. These three were the best players of their national team. And so if these three players can adapt well in the PSG team, then they are capable of playing well against any team. I am very optimistic about PSG's performance in the Champions League this season. If PSG can win their next match against Bayern Munich then they won't have too much trouble to qualify for the final.

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Quote from: Doell on December 21, 2022, 06:34:29 PM

So far Messi and Mbappe are very close, only their fans keep them away. Messi and Mbappe will to play professionally for PSG, being in the same boat won't look good if there are contradictions, but considering the previous rumors of Mbappe and Neymar it could be true that your statement has some truth, it doesn't close possibility either. UCL every season is very interesting but this season will be even more interesting, we see other talented young players, like Erling Haaland and Goncalo Ramos. I believe the way to get trophy UCL will not be easy for PSG even also for other clubs.

I hope both are playing professionally on the team, we know UCL has tight competition besides the world cup, If Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar hate for each other because of the world cup I believe that will affect PSG in the next UCL versus Bayern. So, Mbappe must leave the rumors about Madrid, this is one more important thing that makes PSG underperformance in the Champions League like the last session. the rumors have always existed when PSG begins the next round versus the big team on UCL which I think deliberately rumored is just try to decrease his performance.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on December 21, 2022, 07:38:06 PM

Mbappe's performance in the World Cup was very good. But due to the poor performance of his teammates, France could not become champions. Football is all about a team game. It is difficult to win if you do not perform well as a team. I think Mbappe has definitely learned from that performance in France. He definitely understands how important team performance is. Although the France squad is comparatively stronger than the Argentina squad, they cannot play well. I think Mbappe will now change his style of play like a sailfish. And he will try to fit in with the other players on the team.

Mbappe played beautifully well. It was obvious with his golden boot award for the most goals scored during the tournament. But a game of football is played with all players and no matter how good a single player is, the player alone cannot possibly do everything. Football is a team game and must be played with the teammates in sync with each other. Argentina played superbly and had a well deserved win. True, the France side was looking much better and perhaps more favored to win, they went ahead and lost the game as the game went into penalties.
Well, you win some, you lose some. You can’t always win them all. Congratulations to Argentina. Can’t wait to see Messi back, playing football in a PSG shirt.

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Now most of the soccer players are professional, and they have strong enough mentality just because of these wins and loses have not enough psychological impact on them even they are also humans and feel about this all but still for me, they are strong enough and can adjust quickly just because of this today I was checking Mbappé is already just after 64 hours from losing final in Qatar today have his training session at PSG which is surely amazing stuff from this wonder kid of soccer.

So now they are preparing for another big challenge which is going to have big impact on them as well with facing Bayern Munich into round of 16 is never been easy for them, but they have to be well organized for this because if they fail to do win this surely it could another dilemma for them and all management of the PSG.

Different people have different ways to deal with the difficulties they face on their lives, one very common reaction I have seen is that people after a difficult experience prefer to work as hard as possible so they do not have to think about what happened, so there should be little doubt Mbappe is not happy that despite his spectacular performance at the world cup and at the final game he was still unable to get the win, and instead of taking some time to think about it he prefers to go back to his club, train and play again as soon as he can so he can let this bad experience behind him.

Mbappe's performance in the World Cup was very good. But due to the poor performance of his teammates, France could not become champions. Football is all about a team game. It is difficult to win if you do not perform well as a team. I think Mbappe has definitely learned from that performance in France. He definitely understands how important team performance is. Although the France squad is comparatively stronger than the Argentina squad, they cannot play well. I think Mbappe will now change his style of play like a sailfish. And he will try to fit in with the other players on the team.

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Quote from: makishart on December 21, 2022, 05:36:19 PM

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Quote from: swogerino on December 21, 2022, 10:29:26 AM

It is going to be a very difficult game though and I would not be surprised if PSG would get eliminated although chances for me for them to be eliminated are real slim,as long as Messi and Mbappe are playing in the same team,PSG then there is nothing to worry I would say.

If both players can combine well on the field, of course there is a great chance of winning. The skills of these two PSG players are the best so far. However, in most clubs that have the ability to attack, their defense is very weak. Their opponents will take advantage of counterattacks in these conditions.

There would be a contradicted between mbappe and messi. I know that how harsh argentina fans were mocking mbappe by losing against argentina but those people forgot that if mbappe has even won world cup title in 2018.
If both can work together and that will be so good for PSG but i think that there will be a contradiction between both. As far as i can see some season already passed by mbappe and messi in PSG without champion league trophy.
The way to get UCL is even harder since this time so many teams were focusing to regenerate their players. Let's see how mbappe will be responding his team mate messi once both work together again in SPG

So far Messi and Mbappe are very close, only their fans keep them away. Messi and Mbappe will to play professionally for PSG, being in the same boat won't look good if there are contradictions, but considering the previous rumors of Mbappe and Neymar it could be true that your statement has some truth, it doesn't close possibility either. UCL every season is very interesting but this season will be even more interesting, we see other talented young players, like Erling Haaland and Goncalo Ramos. I believe the way to get trophy UCL will not be easy for PSG even also for other clubs.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on December 21, 2022, 06:17:02 PM

Both Mbappe and Messi were very outstanding in the World Cup, moreover, in the final, Mbappe was exactly super enough. Although his team lost to Argentina, we all know how the his performance of Mbappe, is really outstanding.

The finals was one like no other. Particularly for these two PSG players. They've were Particularly competitive and outstanding in that game. K. Mbappe wasn't really motivated in the first half and at the beginning of the second half but soon after they had there first goal, it all turned to the interesting finals we all hoped it to be. Argentina was fully prepared for this, that's one thing I would say.

I do hope to see the same energy these players who distinguished themselves in the world cup to use in the UCL. PSG needs a champions league they've got what it takes to make it happen in Neyamr, Mbappe and Messi.

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Quote from: makishart on December 21, 2022, 05:36:19 PM

There would be a contradicted between mbappe and messi. I know that how harsh argentina fans were mocking mbappe by losing against argentina but those people forgot that if mbappe has even won world cup title in 2018.
If both can work together and that will be so good for PSG but i think that there will be a contradiction between both. As far as i can see some season already passed by mbappe and messi in PSG without champion league trophy.

Both Mbappe and Messi were very outstanding in the World Cup, moreover, in the final, Mbappe was exactly super enough. Although his team lost to Argentina, we all know how the his performance of Mbappe, is really outstanding.
If both Messi and Mbappe are really able to unite their strength, solid, and also support each other, actually, PSG should be the strongest team right now. However, they also still have Neymar who is also very talented and his performance is also awesome enough so far. They also have a strong defense, like Hakimi that will probably become more motivated after the World Cup, and still many talented and string players there. But, we know that with this lineup, PSG was not able to rise the UCL trophy in the previous season. Are so many superstars of footballs in a club playing together at one time will not effective because of too much focus on different players? Well, the UCL will be started on Feb 15. And this will not be easy because PSG will meet Bayern. Actually, with the squad lineups, PSG should be stronger and win the match, except that Mbappe probability to transfer to another club as expected.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on December 21, 2022, 05:08:49 PM

Now most of the soccer players are professional, and they have strong enough mentality just because of these wins and loses have not enough psychological impact on them even they are also humans and feel about this all but still for me, they are strong enough and can adjust quickly just because of this today I was checking Mbappé is already just after 64 hours from losing final in Qatar today have his training session at PSG which is surely amazing stuff from this wonder kid of soccer.

So now they are preparing for another big challenge which is going to have big impact on them as well with facing Bayern Munich into round of 16 is never been easy for them, but they have to be well organized for this because if they fail to do win this surely it could another dilemma for them and all management of the PSG.

Different people have different ways to deal with the difficulties they face on their lives, one very common reaction I have seen is that people after a difficult experience prefer to work as hard as possible so they do not have to think about what happened, so there should be little doubt Mbappe is not happy that despite his spectacular performance at the world cup and at the final game he was still unable to get the win, and instead of taking some time to think about it he prefers to go back to his club, train and play again as soon as he can so he can let this bad experience behind him.

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I wonder what would have happened if Barcelona had Messi since the beginning of the season. Let's say that he adapted to Xavi's game plan. Would he still be able to play a big role in Barcelona's advancing to last 16 stage? Or would they still fail in doing so?

To be honest, it feels like even Messi wouldn't be able to save the team by taking responsibility. Because I think it was all due to the wrong strategies prepared by Xavi. The main reason of all the big matches they lost must be Xavi's wrong preferences. Barcelona had such a promising squad actually but they couldn't make it.

What Didier Deschamps did when he subbed O. Dembele and Giroud in the 41' against Argentina in the World Cup finals was what i was expecting to see from Xavi when the struggled through the group stage of the Champions League especially when the played against Inter Milan and the Second leg against Bayern Munich, but instead he was beclouded with sentiment. Messi's days in Barcelona are over his presence might have caused a difference but i am not sure it's a certainty.

Well we can't compare the decision made by France's coach Didier Deschamps in the world cup finals to that of Xavi in the big games of Barcelona, looking at the French team you could easily the replacement of most of the first eleven so make such quick change that changed the outcome of the match was not difficult for him to do and it turned out well for him but you don't blame for not making such decisions to change some players when his team is losing because the team is only sure of the first eleven for now and any match without some of the players it is very certain that Barcelona will loose.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on December 21, 2022, 02:26:27 PM

Quote from: swogerino on December 21, 2022, 10:29:26 AM

It is going to be a very difficult game though and I would not be surprised if PSG would get eliminated although chances for me for them to be eliminated are real slim,as long as Messi and Mbappe are playing in the same team,PSG then there is nothing to worry I would say.

If both players can combine well on the field, of course there is a great chance of winning. The skills of these two PSG players are the best so far. However, in most clubs that have the ability to attack, their defense is very weak. Their opponents will take advantage of counterattacks in these conditions.

There would be a contradicted between mbappe and messi. I know that how harsh argentina fans were mocking mbappe by losing against argentina but those people forgot that if mbappe has even won world cup title in 2018.
If both can work together and that will be so good for PSG but i think that there will be a contradiction between both. As far as i can see some season already passed by mbappe and messi in PSG without champion league trophy.
The way to get UCL is even harder since this time so many teams were focusing to regenerate their players. Let's see how mbappe will be responding his team mate messi once both work together again in SPG

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