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Quote from: iamsange on December 22, 2022, 03:56:35 PM

The feud over the 2022 World Cup itself can be a headache for PSG coach, Christophe Galtier, especially how to reunite Messi and Mbappe. Things got complicated again after the World Cup final and it was the provocations made by players like Emiliano Martinez that made the atmosphere even more fiery. Messi's success in winning the World Cup certainly hurt Mbappe, who is considered by some as the world's best footballer at the moment. The Mbappe - Messi relationship will be a bet for PSG to win the Champions League title for the first time. Is Galtier able to mend their relationship? But if not, PSG will certainly be at a loss.

I don’t know why people whip up sentiments and outright BS when there isn’t. Why would you think there would or there is a feud between Messi and Mbappe and it would be a headache for the PSG coach on how reunite them. Did you all get a memo(I obviously didn’t get the memo)that there was an ongoing feud between Messi and Mbappe? Why can’t everyone be simply happy for the victors and celebrate with them. Why whip up conflict when there isn’t any?

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Quote from: iamsange on December 22, 2022, 03:56:35 PM

The feud over the 2022 World Cup itself can be a headache for PSG coach, Christophe Galtier, especially how to reunite Messi and Mbappe. Things got complicated again after the World Cup final and it was the provocations made by players like Emiliano Martinez that made the atmosphere even more fiery. Messi's success in winning the World Cup certainly hurt Mbappe, who is considered by some as the world's best footballer at the moment. The Mbappe - Messi relationship will be a bet for PSG to win the Champions League title for the first time. Is Galtier able to mend their relationship? But if not, PSG will certainly be at a loss.

I think this feud will not continue for those who will later meet at PSG as a team, this is only increased by a group of people who provoked it to break it up including PSG coach Christophe Galtier they will definitely reunite their squad to be even better, their rivals are only limited to the World Cup after that they will be good friends again and Mbappe is also not adamant on dealing with this problem only now the focus is on the League and also the fight for the upcoming champions league.

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Every player like Mbappe will like to win some individual accolades seeing Messi winning almost all will create a little bit of jealousy. We have seen it before with players like Messi and Neymar in Barcelona, where Neymar eventually left. Also Rooney and Ronaldo at United and Salah with Mane at Liverpool. This brings quality to the team if they players don't take it to a selfish level but it is all OK.

I support Mbappe's decision to leave PSG to a more competitive league and also a bigger club where he might have a shot properly at the Ballon D'or. Possibly a move to Madrid will be best.

although there are many rumors circulating on social media about the relationship between mbappe and messi deteriorating because this was triggered by martinez who put mbappe's face on during celebrations for argentina success in winning the world cup in qatar. Indeed, there are many big clubs that want to bring in Mbappe, like Real Madrid and also several big teams in EPL, but Mbappe last season he just renewed his contract with PSG. is this transfer season he will leave because of this little incident.

I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.

The feud over the 2022 World Cup itself can be a headache for PSG coach, Christophe Galtier, especially how to reunite Messi and Mbappe. Things got complicated again after the World Cup final and it was the provocations made by players like Emiliano Martinez that made the atmosphere even more fiery. Messi's success in winning the World Cup certainly hurt Mbappe, who is considered by some as the world's best footballer at the moment. The Mbappe - Messi relationship will be a bet for PSG to win the Champions League title for the first time. Is Galtier able to mend their relationship? But if not, PSG will certainly be at a loss.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on December 22, 2022, 01:49:55 PM

Every player like Mbappe will like to win some individual accolades seeing Messi winning almost all will create a little bit of jealousy. We have seen it before with players like Messi and Neymar in Barcelona, where Neymar eventually left. Also Rooney and Ronaldo at United and Salah with Mane at Liverpool. This brings quality to the team if they players don't take it to a selfish level but it is all OK.

I support Mbappe's decision to leave PSG to a more competitive league and also a bigger club where he might have a shot properly at the Ballon D'or. Possibly a move to Madrid will be best.

although there are many rumors circulating on social media about the relationship between mbappe and messi deteriorating because this was triggered by martinez who put mbappe's face on during celebrations for argentina success in winning the world cup in qatar. Indeed, there are many big clubs that want to bring in Mbappe, like Real Madrid and also several big teams in EPL, but Mbappe last season he just renewed his contract with PSG. is this transfer season he will leave because of this little incident.

I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.

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Dortmund - Chelsea is one of the interesting and competitive matchups I believe. Because it feels like these teams are at almost the same level right now. Chelsea's having bad days has a big affect on this to happen of course. Otherwise I wouldn't say that Dortmund are close to their level. Because Dortmund are still a team that have a quite weak defense. They are still unable to solve their issues in their defense line and this causes them to concede many goals. This is the biggest factor dragging them down.

Chelsea were actually being called as one of the best defense teams in the past. But we have left those days behind now. They are now a team that have big vulnerabilities in not only defense but also offense. They have made their striker transfer but Nkunku won't be able to come before next summer. If Potter doesn't figure out a way for a fix then Dortmund can have a chance to get past them.

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Quote from: Alanaz on December 22, 2022, 01:22:17 PM

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

Mbappe is a true professional since he came back so quickly. I understand it's not even five days and he's already back in Paris at the team's base. In general, the guy with character, if he was able after such a defeat, did not pay attention to Martinez and in general, judging by the photo he was pleased to be back in the team and apparently he enjoys the game, it's not a job for him, but something more.
I am sure that in the very near future Mbappe will finally win the Champions League with PSG.

After the World Cup, what I'm most looking forward to is their collaboration in Ligue (Messi and Mbappe). I think most people are thinking the same way about this. Yes, we have seen them play together long before the World Cup was held, but what is more interesting now is how they continue their game at Paris Saint Germain. Bayern Munich will be their first test in the Champions League, can they beat Bayern Munich and move on to the next round?

PSG already have good experience against Bayern... I think PSG are very strong right now, but Bayern have been doing well this season too... It is a difficult game to predict, but I think that Bayern will not be able to beat PSG this time... Especially, as you rightly said, Mbappe and Messi should show good team play after the personal confrontation at the World Cup...

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Quote from: skarais on December 22, 2022, 07:58:17 AM

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

Every player like Mbappe will like to win some individual accolades seeing Messi winning almost all will create a little bit of jealousy. We have seen it before with players like Messi and Neymar in Barcelona, where Neymar eventually left. Also Rooney and Ronaldo at United and Salah with Mane at Liverpool. This brings quality to the team if they players don't take it to a selfish level but it is all OK.

I support Mbappe's decision to leave PSG to a more competitive league and also a bigger club where he might have a shot properly at the Ballon D'or. Possibly a move to Madrid will be best.

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Quote from: Polkeins on December 22, 2022, 12:48:08 PM

Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

Mbappe is a true professional since he came back so quickly. I understand it's not even five days and he's already back in Paris at the team's base. In general, the guy with character, if he was able after such a defeat, did not pay attention to Martinez and in general, judging by the photo he was pleased to be back in the team and apparently he enjoys the game, it's not a job for him, but something more.
I am sure that in the very near future Mbappe will finally win the Champions League with PSG.

After the World Cup, what I'm most looking forward to is their collaboration in Ligue (Messi and Mbappe). I think most people are thinking the same way about this. Yes, we have seen them play together long before the World Cup was held, but what is more interesting now is how they continue their game at Paris Saint Germain. Bayern Munich will be their first test in the Champions League, can they beat Bayern Munich and move on to the next round?

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on December 22, 2022, 09:47:49 AM

I don't think there is any hazardous contention between Mbappe and Messi. The fact that Messi has seen more playing days and more of what Mbappe hopes to achieve in his entire football career, should humble Mbappe enough to know where his focus should lie.
The duo can complement each other in their team right now, along with Neymar. To win the champions league should be their number one goal together, after coming in hot from the world cup. Mbappe might have to play in other teams around the world or remain in PSG if he hopes to attain his full potential.

They are extraordinary players on the other hand they are also professionals and know what to do because they also have to make a difference when they are in the club and the national team. I don't think something like that is going to happen, regardless it's 2 different things and they can't make it look like the problems in the national team can be raised at the club because this is unprofessional behavior.

Especially seeing their current condition, I actually think this will actually be a reinforcement, it's just that it depends on the ego because sometimes the problem that always happens to PSG players internally is ego.

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Quote from: onecall123 on December 22, 2022, 12:56:54 AM

Mbappe's performance will never be forgotten. Even though Kylian Mbappe didn't win the World Cup for France, he played his heart out for his country. What would it be like to score a hat-trick and lose the World Cup final? This is truly heartbreaking. His name is also known in France like that of Zidane. Fans can choose to support Mbappe, but the respect he commands cannot be denied! Kylian Mbappé, the star of the show, practiced at PSG's camp yesterday. There will be a Messi back in a PSG shirt soon.

Mbappe's hat-trick goal cannot be separated from the role of his team-mates. remember in the first half, Mbappe was nothing. in fact, he did not have any contribution in the first half. only after the entry of Marcus Thuram, Mbappe's position shifted to the center. so that Mbappe has room to exploit the Argentine defense more, only after Griezmann was pulled out and replaced by Kingsley Coman. Mbappe has more chances, without them both Mbappe would not have scored a hat-trick. and Marcus Thuram who contributed the most to Mbappe, one from an assist, one from his shot which resulted in a penalty and Mbappe succeeded in taking the penalty.

I have to admit, that Mbappe is an extraordinary young talent. but without the support of his teammates, he is nothing. by now, Mbappe and Messi should have joined the entire PSG team. they are both back to being players who play in the same team, their current mission is the Champions League trophy. Can Mbappe and Messi make the Club's dream come true, let's wait.

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

I like that. That demonstrates just how dedicated the PSG players are to taking home the champions league. Messi and Mbappe don't have time to savor the world's accomplishments; instead, they intend to apply the same drive they had at the world cup to the championship. to determine whether making football history will be achievable.

Messi's stay at PSG is being looked into by the club to prolong his stay. Given that Messi wishes to shortly retire from football, I'm not sure how long they will want him (Messi) to stay with them.

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

Mbappe is a true professional since he came back so quickly. I understand it's not even five days and he's already back in Paris at the team's base. In general, the guy with character, if he was able after such a defeat, did not pay attention to Martinez and in general, judging by the photo he was pleased to be back in the team and apparently he enjoys the game, it's not a job for him, but something more.
I am sure that in the very near future Mbappe will finally win the Champions League with PSG.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 22, 2022, 12:00:27 PM

Messi and Mbappe attracted attention after these two players managed to impress at the World Cup and they even met in the final and presented a very interesting match. If I'm not mistaken in that game 7 goals from the legs of these 2 players. Interestingly they will appear again in Ligue 1, but this time they meet not as opponents but as teammates who must help each other to make Paris Saint Germain achieve success in the Champions League this season. 2 very extraordinary players born in different eras.
Mbappe has so far succeeded in becoming the top scorer even in 3 competitions at once, the World Cup, Ligue 1 and the Champions League, even though Ligue 1 and the Champions League are still temporary, but still proves that he is really a player who has the ability regardless of the attitude he has. causing controversy which he often does.

Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe have been able to perform brilliantly in this World Cup. In the final game, Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe had a great battle for goals. However, Kylian Mbappe moved ahead of Messi as he scored two goals from penalties. But in the end, Messi's victory in Argentina ensured Lionel Messi's surety of winning the Ballon d'Or so far.

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Messi and Mbappe attracted attention after these two players managed to impress at the World Cup and they even met in the final and presented a very interesting match. If I'm not mistaken in that game 7 goals from the legs of these 2 players. Interestingly they will appear again in Ligue 1, but this time they meet not as opponents but as teammates who must help each other to make Paris Saint Germain achieve success in the Champions League this season. 2 very extraordinary players born in different eras.
Mbappe has so far succeeded in becoming the top scorer even in 3 competitions at once, the World Cup, Ligue 1 and the Champions League, even though Ligue 1 and the Champions League are still temporary, but still proves that he is really a player who has the ability regardless of the attitude he has. causing controversy which he often does.

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Mbappe's performance in the World Cup was very good. But due to the poor performance of his teammates, France could not become champions. Football is all about a team game. It is difficult to win if you do not perform well as a team. I think Mbappe has definitely learned from that performance in France. He definitely understands how important team performance is. Although the France squad is comparatively stronger than the Argentina squad, they cannot play well. I think Mbappe will now change his style of play like a sailfish. And he will try to fit in with the other players on the team.

Mbappe played beautifully well. It was obvious with his golden boot award for the most goals scored during the tournament. But a game of football is played with all players and no matter how good a single player is, the player alone cannot possibly do everything. Football is a team game and must be played with the teammates in sync with each other. Argentina played superbly and had a well deserved win. True, the France side was looking much better and perhaps more favored to win, they went ahead and lost the game as the game went into penalties.
Well, you win some, you lose some. You can’t always win them all. Congratulations to Argentina. Can’t wait to see Messi back, playing football in a PSG shirt.

Mbappe's performance will never be forgotten. Even though Kylian Mbappe didn't win the World Cup for France, he played his heart out for his country. What would it be like to score a hat-trick and lose the World Cup final? This is truly heartbreaking. His name is also known in France like that of Zidane. Fans can choose to support Mbappe, but the respect he commands cannot be denied! Kylian Mbappé, the star of the show, practiced at PSG's camp yesterday. There will be a Messi back in a PSG shirt soon.

Mbappe's performance is really amazing at the moment. He is a young skilled tactical player. The fans of the world will never forget the surprise he showed in this World Cup. If he continues his career performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

The ability and enthusiasm they showed in the Champions League will hopefully bring them to Paris Saint Germain to make Paris Saint Germain's dream of winning the Champions League come true. Almost all the players who competed in Paris Saint Germain's World Cup played very well, so when at club level they don't show the same thing or even tend to decline, then I think there is something wrong with their coach because they can't take advantage of all the abilities of the players they have .

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 22, 2022, 07:50:12 AM

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Everyone knows Mbappe's qualities, he is quick and very dangerous on the ball. The World Cup final will be remembered and I'm sure he will return in the future, there are still many opportunities due to his young age. So Mbappe shouldn't be stuck in disappointment for long, and I think he will maintain the same form in the league and Champion League too.

PSG this season have looked to convince me in the Champion League and they are one of the favourites. The toughest test right now is how PSG beat Bayern Munich, but I think they can do it. Messi, Neymar and Mbappe's partnership has been excellent so far and it seems right to wish them success.

It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

But indeed he is still very trapped at PSG with a very large price and salary so I still doubt whether he will qualify or not from PSG with such conditions.
Last season Madrid had the courage to bid for a very large price and I think it will be very different when Mbappe is in La Liga because of course this can further improve his quality especially in competition but he refused that and I think for now nothing has been done dare to make a contract with him again.

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Quote from: skarais on December 22, 2022, 07:58:17 AM

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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

I don't think there is any hazardous contention between Mbappe and Messi. The fact that Messi has seen more playing days and more of what Mbappe hopes to achieve in his entire football career, should humble Mbappe enough to know where his focus should lie.
The duo can complement each other in their team right now, along with Neymar. To win the champions league should be their number one goal together, after coming in hot from the world cup. Mbappe might have to play in other teams around the world or remain in PSG if he hopes to attain his full potential.

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

That's great, because when they played in the final at the World Cup yesterday, I'm sure they really have very good morals at this moment. At least that can be an internal factor for them to be able to play even better in the Champions League, because the Champions League is also a target that PSG and their squad are expecting.
Basically, before the World Cup started, the reality was that many of us doubted PSG because they would play against Bayern Munich, who are strong candidates in the race for the Champions League title.

But after we get a lot of PSG players who played in the World Cup and can make a big contribution to their national team, then of course PSG can be the favorite team to win to beat Bayern Munich.
Indeed, there is no strong guarantee for PSG to win the Champions League title this season, but if I consider Mbappe and Messi's gameplay at this moment it seems they will be able to do even better gameplay at PSG. What's more, PSG has a tough defender like Hakimi, with a good line of defense and attack, so of course PSG might be the favorites to win.

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So far Messi and Mbappe are very close, only their fans keep them away. Messi and Mbappe will to play professionally for PSG, being in the same boat won't look good if there are contradictions, but considering the previous rumors of Mbappe and Neymar it could be true that your statement has some truth, it doesn't close possibility either. UCL every season is very interesting but this season will be even more interesting, we see other talented young players, like Erling Haaland and Goncalo Ramos. I believe the way to get trophy UCL will not be easy for PSG even also for other clubs.

I hope both are playing professionally on the team, we know UCL has tight competition besides the world cup, If Mbappe, Messi, and Neymar hate for each other because of the world cup I believe that will affect PSG in the next UCL versus Bayern. So, Mbappe must leave the rumors about Madrid, this is one more important thing that makes PSG underperformance in the Champions League like the last session. the rumors have always existed when PSG begins the next round versus the big team on UCL which I think deliberately rumored is just try to decrease his performance.

It is an obligation for a player to play professionally wherever he is. The interests of the clubs they defend are the interests they have to put forward. Maybe they have a disharmonious relationship between players, but when they are on the field, they become an inseparable unit. All players must do their best no matter how bad their relationship with each other is. Because when it comes to the team, they are like one body, if there is pain in that part of the body, all parts will feel it.

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