UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 594.

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Quote from: LordShanken on December 23, 2022, 12:36:57 PM

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

No disrespect to Mbappe but he was silent in that game till France got that penalty. The whole French team was outplayed. Mbappe was brilliant to convert 2 penalties (before the shoot out) and that was it. Many other players like Thuram were exceptional for France. All he did was score a beautiful goal and 2 penalties.
But that won't matter now because when people talk history they will say Mbappe scored a hat trick in a world cup final.

Argentina were playing games with such pressure and fervor. France's midfield and defense were surprised by what happened, they forced France to make mistakes all the time. Mbappe, who scored three goals from these challenges, has been very valuable in my eyes. Described as the best striker in the world, Kane lost a penalty and had great consequences. While the Mbappe-Messi chemistry at PSG doesn't quite match, Former Bayer Munich does not. I think PSG is the clear favourite.

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Quote from: LordShanken on December 23, 2022, 12:36:57 PM

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

A hattrick is always a great thing to achieve but to do this in a world cup final is an even bigger accomplishment. I don't really know the statistics but i am not sure if a player ever managed to do this before. Maybe Pele but i don't think anyone else. If we look a little closer though then we also have to keep in mind that 2 of his 3 goals were penalties. Of course penalties count just as much as "normal" goals and you have to make then in frist but i still think that it is a difference, if you scored 3 goals out of the running game, or if you scored those goals via penalties. In the end it does not really matter though and i am also sure, that Mbappe would have rather scored no goal at all if France would have won the world cup instead.

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Quote from: LordShanken on December 23, 2022, 12:36:57 PM

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

Of course, it was an outstanding performance. Very rare a player to score 3 goals (hat-trick) in the final match of the world cup tournament. Even, Mbappe also scored in the penalty shoot-out. What he did in the final match simply showed us that Mbappe is one of the best strikers in the world nowadays. He is already a great player now and this probably lasts a long time until many years in the future.

Quote from: skarais on December 23, 2022, 01:03:16 PM

So far it's been too ridiculous for Real Madrid to expect him for free before Mbappe extends his contract with PSG.

Real Madrid won't sign him for free, Mbappe has a contract with PSG until Jun 30, 2025. But I think it is not a problem for Real Madrid, they should have enough money to sign Mbappe. The problem is PSG prevents him, PSG wants Mbappe to stay as long as possible. Mbappe has a crucial role in PSG attacking line, they won't miss him very soon.

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Quote from: harapan on December 22, 2022, 08:02:50 AM

Mbappe and other players are returning quickly than expected for psg training some days ago

They are looking very serious like who wants to activate and achieve the Champions League at the end of the season next June

No doubts on Mbappe, other players like Parades, Messi and Hakimi represented very well during the World Cup.
That come back will forever be remembered in the history of the world Cup impressive display.

Mbappe is a true professional since he came back so quickly. I understand it's not even five days and he's already back in Paris at the team's base. In general, the guy with character, if he was able after such a defeat, did not pay attention to Martinez and in general, judging by the photo he was pleased to be back in the team and apparently he enjoys the game, it's not a job for him, but something more.
I am sure that in the very near future Mbappe will finally win the Champions League with PSG.

After the World Cup, what I'm most looking forward to is their collaboration in Ligue (Messi and Mbappe). I think most people are thinking the same way about this. Yes, we have seen them play together long before the World Cup was held, but what is more interesting now is how they continue their game at Paris Saint Germain. Bayern Munich will be their first test in the Champions League, can they beat Bayern Munich and move on to the next round?

PSG already have good experience against Bayern... I think PSG are very strong right now, but Bayern have been doing well this season too... It is a difficult game to predict, but I think that Bayern will not be able to beat PSG this time... Especially, as you rightly said, Mbappe and Messi should show good team play after the personal confrontation at the World Cup...

If Mbappe and Messi play against Bayern like they did at the World Cup, Bayern will have little chance. It's hard to see what Bayern can win with? Lewandowski has left the club, the defense is not as reliable, and in general Bayern does not seem as well-oiled as it was a couple of years ago when they won the trophy.
Now PSG seems to be the main favorite in the tournament, which can only stop Liverpool or Real Madrid.
In general, I think this year the Champions League trophy will finally be brought to Paris.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 23, 2022, 11:51:14 AM

Are you that sure, i don't think so. because after all, Haaland's performance is much better than Mbappe. after all, in the Qatar world cup the player who performed the best and always appeared stable was, Antonie Griezmann, you can review it from France's statistics during the Qatar world cup.

Mbappe earned a hat-trick in the final, two of his goals from the penalty spot. even then, thanks to the contribution of Marcus Thuram. and if PSG win the Champions League this season, the closest contender for the Balon D'Or will be Messi. Messi's performance this season has always been impressive, both in the Domestic League and the Champions League. however, if it turns out that the one who won the Champions League is Manchester City. I'm sure Haaland will be the winner of the Ballon D'Or later. after all, the PSG vs Bayern Munich game hasn't started yet. we don't even know which team will win the game. what is certain, both PSG and Bayern Munich both have the chance to qualify for the next phase.

Mbappe success become top scorer in World Cup 2022 with 8 goals behind 1 goals more from Lionel Messi, I sure have potential for Mbappe become the winner of Ballon D'Or but depending his achievement with PSG in UEFA Champion League. Almost player success become the winner Ballon D'Or after success give Champion League trophy for their team, this year Karim Benzema give Champion League trophy for Real Madrid and success won Ballon D'Or.

I don't think with PSG have chance qualify to next round after drawing match against Bayern Munich, have bad memorize last meeting at Champion League final, Bayern Munich success beating PSG and make Mbappe loss his opportunity with first Champion League trophy.

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Quote from: harapan on December 23, 2022, 01:17:22 PM

Quote from: LordShanken on December 23, 2022, 12:36:57 PM

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

No disrespect to Mbappe but he was silent in that game till France got that penalty. The whole French team was outplayed. Mbappe was brilliant to convert 2 penalties (before the shoot out) and that was it. Many other players like Thuram were exceptional for France. All he did was score a beautiful goal and 2 penalties.
But that won't matter now because when people talk history they will say Mbappe scored a hat trick in a world cup final.

Basically Mbappe has become a great young player because after all, if Mbappe is not great then it is impossible for PSG to be willing to pay a high price to keep Mbappe. So yes, the fact is that Mbappe has been great so far and Mbappe's success in scoring a hat-trick in the World Cup final, then of course Mbappe's value will continue to increase and also Mbappe has had a very extraordinary experience at the age of 24 years.
With his young age and having made a lot of success in big tournaments, of course Mbappe has a very good future.

What's more, if PSG manage to win the Champions League title this season, then of course that will make Mbappe very extraordinary again.
Because Mbappe and PSG have so far not won the Champions League title, and at least that is also one of the reasons PSG is willing to pay Mbappe handsomely and also recruit other luxury players. So, with good achievements in the World Cup for France and many other PSG players who also played in the World Cup final, PSG this season could have the chance to go further in the Champions League.

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Quote from: LordShanken on December 23, 2022, 12:36:57 PM

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

No disrespect to Mbappe but he was silent in that game till France got that penalty. The whole French team was outplayed. Mbappe was brilliant to convert 2 penalties (before the shoot out) and that was it. Many other players like Thuram were exceptional for France. All he did was score a beautiful goal and 2 penalties.
But that won't matter now because when people talk history they will say Mbappe scored a hat trick in a world cup final.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 23, 2022, 11:11:06 AM

Maybe you don't know much about football if you don't understand it?

I don't know, doesn't mean I don't understand and don't understand much about football. But whatever it is, you and I may have a different point of view.

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It's one thing to play against top clubs and quite another thing to play against clubs from Ligue 1 in conditions where you are guaranteed to get the championship. Even if you are personally motivated as much as possible, then the whole team is not at all eager to die on the field, for example, with a score of 2-0 in favor of PSG - why would they? If you don't understand this question well, look at the results (and performance) in friendly games. The fact is that at least half of the games in Ligue 1 for PSG are friendlies.

I know PSG haven't had a strong competitor so far in Ligue 1 so some people like you think that many games played in that competition are just friendly matches for PSG. PSG's dominance is obvious because of the quality of its players, but it doesn't guarantee a title every season. Mbappe could of course leave when PSG are willing to let him go, but PSG don't want him to leave for free. So far it's been too ridiculous for Real Madrid to expect him for free before Mbappe extends his contract with PSG.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 23, 2022, 11:51:14 AM

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If Mbappé wins the Champions League, he will be the most qualified for the Ballon d'Or title, having won the Golden boat at the just concluded World Cup. Although, if PSG wins the CL, Messi will still be his strongest Contender for the title. Moving to Madrid will be the best for Mbappé, there he will have higher chances of winning the Champions League and winning the Ballon d'Or title unopposed.

Are you that sure, i don't think so. because after all, Haaland's performance is much better than Mbappe. after all, in the Qatar world cup the player who performed the best and always appeared stable was, Antonie Griezmann, you can review it from France's statistics during the Qatar world cup.

Mbappe earned a hat-trick in the final, two of his goals from the penalty spot. even then, thanks to the contribution of Marcus Thuram. and if PSG win the Champions League this season, the closest contender for the Balon D'Or will be Messi. Messi's performance this season has always been impressive, both in the Domestic League and the Champions League. however, if it turns out that the one who won the Champions League is Manchester City. I'm sure Haaland will be the winner of the Ballon D'Or later. after all, the PSG vs Bayern Munich game hasn't started yet. we don't even know which team will win the game. what is certain, both PSG and Bayern Munich both have the chance to qualify for the next phase.

Mbappe's hat-trick in the FIFA World Cup final game is truly remarkable. Mbappe is a smart and efficient striker. If he keeps his performance like this, he will become a great player in the future.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 23, 2022, 12:22:05 PM

I believe Frankfurt are getting close to the end of their journey in the Champions League. Because Napoli are just a way stronger team than them. I know that they showed good performances against Sporting, Marseille and Tottenham in the group stage. But I don't think any of these teams seem stronger than Napoli for now. Napoli are a team that destroyed Liverpool in a group match as you remember. Apart from that, they have had a wonderful run not only here but also in the Serie A.

It only depends on how quick they will get their usual form back after the end of this break. If they keep the same level then Frankfurt will say goodbye to the tournament most probably.

Napoli is a really great team, their style of play is very good at the moment. Team players are improving themselves day by day. But the most important thing is to maintain the current performance of the Napoli team. To improve them, their performance must be improved gradually.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 23, 2022, 12:22:05 PM

I believe Frankfurt are getting close to the end of their journey in the Champions League. Because Napoli are just a way stronger team than them. I know that they showed good performances against Sporting, Marseille and Tottenham in the group stage. But I don't think any of these teams seem stronger than Napoli for now. Napoli are a team that destroyed Liverpool in a group match as you remember. Apart from that, they have had a wonderful run not only here but also in the Serie A.

It only depends on how quick they will get their usual form back after the end of this break. If they keep the same level then Frankfurt will say goodbye to the tournament most probably.

There is no doubt that Frankfurt will be far behind when compared to Napoli. Napoli are very strong this season. But Napoli are likely to lose form after a long break. They lost 4-1 against Lille in their last friendly match. If Napoli's performance deteriorates, it will be challenging for them to win against Frankfurt.

I don't think the Frankfurt team is strong. However, it is very difficult to predict their performance. They often surprise everyone by performing well against big teams. They will try their best to win against Napoli. If there is any weakness in Napoli's performance, Frankfurt will make good use of that opportunity.

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I believe Frankfurt are getting close to the end of their journey in the Champions League. Because Napoli are just a way stronger team than them. I know that they showed good performances against Sporting, Marseille and Tottenham in the group stage. But I don't think any of these teams seem stronger than Napoli for now. Napoli are a team that destroyed Liverpool in a group match as you remember. Apart from that, they have had a wonderful run not only here but also in the Serie A.

It only depends on how quick they will get their usual form back after the end of this break. If they keep the same level then Frankfurt will say goodbye to the tournament most probably.

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Quote from: kro55 on December 23, 2022, 12:46:27 AM

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I believe Mbappe has great authority in PSG but he also has great loyalty to PSG because he was able to reject the first offer from Real Madrid in last season's transfer window. so i guess he will stay at psg and reject all offers that come his way.

I think Mbappe has no desire to leave PSG. I don't think Mbappe is at PSG just for the money. Real Madrid were also ready to pay Mbappe huge wages. However, Mbappe rejected Madrid's offer. I think Mbappe doesn't want to leave France. At the same time PSG management has given Mbappe a lot of benefits. And Mbappe has been given the freedom to interfere in the club's internal affairs. Perhaps these are the reasons why Mbappe is repeatedly extending his contract with PSG.

There is both a truth about that, but also a misinformation of sorts. Real was ready to pay him 40 million, that was the official offer that we saw, PSG offered 60 million and the difference between the bonus must have been high too, 120 million just to him is huge from PSG, doubt Real could have matched that.

So, it is of course not about money and Mbappe wants to live in Paris and France, that's where he is from and that is normal to want to be there. However, it was also a bit about money, you think if Real would have offered more than PSG did, would he still stay? What if PSG offered a tiny money, like 10-15 million a year? Would he stay? Of course not. So getting paid is equally important.

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Quote from: Zilon on December 23, 2022, 06:18:59 AM

If Mbappé wins the Champions League, he will be the most qualified for the Ballon d'Or title, having won the Golden boat at the just concluded World Cup. Although, if PSG wins the CL, Messi will still be his strongest Contender for the title. Moving to Madrid will be the best for Mbappé, there he will have higher chances of winning the Champions League and winning the Ballon d'Or title unopposed.

Are you that sure, i don't think so. because after all, Haaland's performance is much better than Mbappe. after all, in the Qatar world cup the player who performed the best and always appeared stable was, Antonie Griezmann, you can review it from France's statistics during the Qatar world cup.

Mbappe earned a hat-trick in the final, two of his goals from the penalty spot. even then, thanks to the contribution of Marcus Thuram. and if PSG win the Champions League this season, the closest contender for the Balon D'Or will be Messi. Messi's performance this season has always been impressive, both in the Domestic League and the Champions League. however, if it turns out that the one who won the Champions League is Manchester City. I'm sure Haaland will be the winner of the Ballon D'Or later. after all, the PSG vs Bayern Munich game hasn't started yet. we don't even know which team will win the game. what is certain, both PSG and Bayern Munich both have the chance to qualify for the next phase.

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Quote from: skarais on December 22, 2022, 07:58:17 AM

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It's quite interesting that although Mbappe is in first place in the goalscoring race in all three competitions - World Cup, Champions League and Ligue 1, his performance in the World Cup and Champions League is better than in League 1. This once again makes me think about the importance of motivation and that Mbappe needs to move up to a more serious league to improve his already phenomenal performance and make history.

I don't know how you can say Mbappe isn't very motivated in Ligue 1, I think he's done his best, but maybe he doesn't want to be overshadowed by another star player like Messi. All along I think Mbappe thinks Messi is his rival in every way, and if this assumption is correct then Mbappe is really immature. I don't know, but he is a selfish player.

Maybe you don't know much about football if you don't understand it? It's one thing to play against top clubs and quite another thing to play against clubs from Ligue 1 in conditions where you are guaranteed to get the championship. Even if you are personally motivated as much as possible, then the whole team is not at all eager to die on the field, for example, with a score of 2-0 in favor of PSG - why would they? If you don't understand this question well, look at the results (and performance) in friendly games. The fact is that at least half of the games in Ligue 1 for PSG are friendlies.

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the Munich vs PSG match in the round of 16 seems to be a meeting too soon between the two. both are in good condition. but maybe PSG will be more favored.
Another interesting match is Liverpool vs Madrid. strong teams meeting earlier this will certainly make the competition in the last 16 of UCL more interesting.

The match between Bayern Munich and PSG will be a great fight. But PSG will be expected to win, as most of the team's players have performed well in the World Cup. Among them are Kylian Mbappe, Lionel Messi and Neymar. We expect to see a great attack with the great combination of these three attacking players.

Yes, they (Paris Saint Germain) had very good capital before this match actually took place. Yes it comes from their players who were very good at playing for their country in the World Cup. But the problem is these are different teams during the World Cup, I think there will be competition between the players who performed brilliantly which causes their cooperation to be very optimal. But I hope my worries are wrong and that they do their best with teamwork.

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For some reason, even though Paris Saint Germain has a capable squad, especially in attack. But I have the same thought that Bayern Munich will be the winner in their encounter. Apart from the special players at Paris Saint Germain, I feel that Bayern Munich has its own advantages that PSG don't have. I mean in teamwork, Bayern Munich looks more solid than the Ligue 1 giants.

For me the outcome of this match between Bayern and PSG is completely open, a real 50/50 game. I think that the team that is able to score the first goal will have a huge advantage obviously. Just looking at the squad one could get the impression that PSG is the favorite because they obviously have Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their team and two of those were the dominating players in this years world cup. It is also true though that those 3 attackers do almost nothing to support the defense of their team and that is a disadvantage that is not to be underestimated and Bayern also has a great team with great individual players.

the Munich vs PSG match in the round of 16 seems to be a meeting too soon between the two. both are in good condition. but maybe PSG will be more favored.
Another interesting match is Liverpool vs Madrid. strong teams meeting earlier this will certainly make the competition in the last 16 of UCL more interesting.

The match between Bayern Munich and PSG will be a great fight. But PSG will be expected to win, as most of the team's players have performed well in the World Cup. Among them are Kylian Mbappe, Lionel Messi and Neymar. We expect to see a great attack with the great combination of these three attacking players.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 23, 2022, 04:42:33 AM

Winning the Ballon d'Or won't be easy for Mbappe. Haaland is performing better than Mbappe this season. He is consistently playing well and scoring goals. Mbappe is likely to win the Ballon d'Or if PSG can win the Champions League title. If PSG can't win the Champions League this season, they won't for the next few seasons.

Both were playing in the different league and how can you sure if mbappe was performing worst compared with haaland? Mbape itself has become runner up in the world cup while haaland did nothing. It doesn't make sense to call that if mbappe has been performing worst compared with haaland.
I think that you can't determine which player that will be getting ballon d'or caused by the season is still very long to end. Haaland is still less than a season playing with city. I think that it's too early to call him as potential player to get ballon d'or. UCL is not yet continue. You shall wait until the end of season to know which player that will be worthy to get ballon d'or. PSG itself is far stronger compared with city.

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Maybe he means the relationship between Mbappe and Messi that got worse after the World Cup final. All people watched Argentina players making fun of Mbappe after the match. Moreover, when they celebrated in Argentina, there was a player beside Messi holding a toy refers to Mbappe. I think the wrost thing that can happen to any club is a strained relationship between two stars, hence PSG have to find a solution if they want to win the title.

Never easily believe in what you see in the media, you need lots of references so that the information is correct. I think Messi and Mbappe's relationship will still be fine, the media just takes advantage of little things and links them both to get more visibility. Really I really see it as something of an embarrassment, but of course they can speculate on anything.

Just wait for the league to start again, but I don't think Messi wants to compete with other players or even his team-mates anymore. He has been the best, and I don't think he would be so selfish about another individual achievement. It's up to people what to say about them, we'll see.

The media always brings up small things so I don't really believe if there is no more correct information about this news, it's true that my assumption is that Mbappe and Messi will be fine, they are teammates and of course they after the World Cup competition have the same goal in The Champions League is a matter of individual championships, it's over, they are friends again.

Before the end of the year PSG will be playing in their league we will see how they get back together in the team and this is just speculation of a few people about Mbappe and Messi.
They will be fine once the league starts I trust that and neither of them will be selfish.

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I think relationship between Mbappe and PSG is not going well at this time. It is almost sure that Mbappe is not happy about the decisions of PSG. Mbappe wants more freedom and benefits from PSG which might be included in contract. I think there might have any conflict between Messi and Mbappe.

When there is an internal conflict like that and it is accompanied by the opening of the transfer market at the beginning of this year, then other teams will definitely target talented young players and one of them is Mbappe. So it might be a bit of a loss for PSG, as other teams are looking at a better chance of getting Mbappe this season.
But for now I myself have not seen how the conflict you mean is.

Kylian Mbappe's relationship with the PSG club is expected to be good so far. I think Kylian Mbappe will never leave PSG now. However, Real Madrid have agreed to pay a high price for Kylian Mbappe. If Kylian Mbappe leaves PSG then I think PSG will suffer a bit due to the lack of Mbappe. But the great combination of Lionel Messi and Neymar we will see if Kylian Mbappe leaves PSG.

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