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Quote from: bitgolden on December 16, 2022, 01:49:23 PM

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Neuer certainly will not playing and it is confirmed he will ended this season early but for Mane i think there is a chance to this player to recover considering first leg will be held on February so in the next 2 months maybe Mane will playing although there is no official statement regarding Mane current conditions but lets assume if these players cannot be played on the first leg against PSG and for Mane position it shouldn't be a big problem for Bayern because they have several players who can be replace his position on the team but looking for Neuer replacement is a bit hard for Bayern because so far Neuer always be playing for almost each matches in all competitions so lets see how Nagelsmann will overcomes this situation

Mane seems like he is gone just a month, adding some recovery issues and match shape etc etc, he will probably be ready 2 months later. I am not entirely sure if that's going to be certain, injuries and human body is not an exact science, some people recover from achilles in 6 months and start playing, some never recover and become terrible and retire, Mane doesn't have Achilles issue of course, but this example is known and if there are so many differences then we can't "exactly" know when Mane will be back, it's just a guess.

I think he will be ready to play in UCL, and doctors seems to think like that as well, but that is only if everything works well.

I have not seen any official statement from the Bayern Munich management and as a result, I am not sure whether Sadio Mané will be available for the match or not.

As his injury was quite bad, I am not sure if Bayern will be getting him for the match against PSG. But even if they don't get him they have really good alternatives for him.
Maybe they can play Thomas Müller as the striker and play Jamal Musiala right behind him and I guess Kingsley Coman and Serge Gnabry can fill the Winger positions.
Overall I am really excited about the thrilling match.

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Quote from: Bobrox on December 16, 2022, 09:46:46 PM

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Yes, Fabrizio Romano has also confirmed this, indeed the media now always reports what Ronaldo will do, even though it is only training at Real Madrid's headquarters but everyone has assumed many things, including if later Real Madrid will sign him, but it seems that it will not This might happen because Real Madrid already has good players and Ronaldo is on the bench if he really returns to Real Madrid.

It is true that there is no end to talking about these two GOATs. Messi and Ronaldo have had such a big impact in the history of football and the two of them have managed to break new records every season, but now indeed Messi is superior to Ronaldo in terms of hunting for goals or individual titles. With an age that is 2 years older than Messi, Ronaldo seems unlikely to be able to keep up with Messi in regular competition or the Champions League.

Seems misunderstanding about Fabrizio Romano update Cristiano Ronaldo in Real Madrid training center, haven't rumor and agreement deal with Real Madrid want to sign Ronaldo just have attention with training only after he has new team. Real Madrid have complicated player composition right now and Cristiano Ronaldo not at the top level, I think Carlo Ancelotti not try for signing Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has bigger ambition and seems not happy if can't get regular position at new team later, I don't with Real Madrid want speculative to sign Ronaldo due his over age and haven't consistency performance.

Cristiano Ronaldo only borrowed the training ground and he only trained alone to keep his performance improving when the league started to return. It's true that Real Madrid don't want to bring him back and Carlo Ancelotti as coach certainly doesn't want CR7 to return to the squad he leads, but all parties in Real Madrid certainly really appreciate his arrival. I think CR7 currently just needs to calm down before signing a new contract with his new club in the January transfer market, of course he still targets clubs that play in the champions league so he can still score goals.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 16, 2022, 07:48:26 PM

Yes, Fabrizio Romano has also confirmed this, indeed the media now always reports what Ronaldo will do, even though it is only training at Real Madrid's headquarters but everyone has assumed many things, including if later Real Madrid will sign him, but it seems that it will not This might happen because Real Madrid already has good players and Ronaldo is on the bench if he really returns to Real Madrid.

It is true that there is no end to talking about these two GOATs. Messi and Ronaldo have had such a big impact in the history of football and the two of them have managed to break new records every season, but now indeed Messi is superior to Ronaldo in terms of hunting for goals or individual titles. With an age that is 2 years older than Messi, Ronaldo seems unlikely to be able to keep up with Messi in regular competition or the Champions League.

Seems misunderstanding about Fabrizio Romano update Cristiano Ronaldo in Real Madrid training center, haven't rumor and agreement deal with Real Madrid want to sign Ronaldo just have attention with training only after he has new team. Real Madrid have complicated player composition right now and Cristiano Ronaldo not at the top level, I think Carlo Ancelotti not try for signing Ronaldo.

Ronaldo has bigger ambition and seems not happy if can't get regular position at new team later, I don't with Real Madrid want speculative to sign Ronaldo due his over age and haven't consistency performance.

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Reports have it that Ronaldo who left Qatar after his country's defeat in the quarter-finals stage was spotted training at Real Madrid. It's a good sign that the Portuguese attacker still has a great bond with his former club, as such may be seen playing in the champion league once again before the end of his career. I think Ronaldo so much wishes to play in the champion league which is why he is trying to reunite with his former Spanish side. Lol😅 even at 37 the young man is not giving up on football.

I admire Cristiano Ronaldo a lot however I do not think that it would be wise to bring a soon-to-be 38 year old forward to any major club in Europe. Everyone who has watched him play from his younger years would definitely agree that his quality of play is about 10% of what it used to be. We saw it during their World Cup games that he can't run, he can hardly dribble past anyone. Either he goes to Saudi-Arabia or consider accepting a substantial pay cut and to be a benchwarmer that plays 20 - 30 minutes in some games just as like we saw in the Switzerland and Portugese match.

It won't make sense for a team like Real Madrid to bring in Ronaldo at this time, it will result to nothing. Ronaldo is a good player but the things he can easily do in some years back he finds it difficult to do them now. Ronaldo has made name and he still remains a football legend, but right now I think he is not the best Real Madrid needs.

The club president will never be in approval of such
They have promising young players who are eager to represent the club
Ronaldo to Real Madrid will never happen again

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I have heard this news from various media, because after returning from Qatar he did not know where to go, whereas he has not joined any club after leaving Manchester United last month. The only one he considers home is Real Madrid, so that's why he asked permission from Florentino Perez to train at Valdebas (one of Real Madrid's training bases) so he can stay fit. CR7 is still ambitious for the champions league, maybe he wants to widen his record distance before he retires so he can't be chased by other players.

Even Fabrizio Romano made this known on his twitter account, I think there's a reason behind Ronaldo going to train at Real Madrid, it mightn't be because he has interest in returning but maybe to send a message to his potential new clubs of his willingness to still impact the game. He could have trained silently without anybody knowing but he wanted to be in the press and this was the best way to achieve that. The more he's been talked about in the media the more his value increases. And for the fact he's trading at his former clubs news outlets will definitely carry the stories as new speculation will be discussed.

Ronaldo's interest to play in the champions league has alot of reasons to do with Messi still dominating at PSG. If Messi would retire today, Ronaldo will do the same but for the fact that Messi could easily destroy his champions league record playing at PSG then Ronaldo is concerned and want to give more goal gap to avoid that happening.

Yes, Fabrizio Romano has also confirmed this, indeed the media now always reports what Ronaldo will do, even though it is only training at Real Madrid's headquarters but everyone has assumed many things, including if later Real Madrid will sign him, but it seems that it will not This might happen because Real Madrid already has good players and Ronaldo is on the bench if he really returns to Real Madrid.

It is true that there is no end to talking about these two GOATs. Messi and Ronaldo have had such a big impact in the history of football and the two of them have managed to break new records every season, but now indeed Messi is superior to Ronaldo in terms of hunting for goals or individual titles. With an age that is 2 years older than Messi, Ronaldo seems unlikely to be able to keep up with Messi in regular competition or the Champions League.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on December 16, 2022, 09:30:56 AM

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Reports have it that Ronaldo who left Qatar after his country's defeat in the quarter-finals stage was spotted training at Real Madrid. It's a good sign that the Portuguese attacker still has a great bond with his former club, as such may be seen playing in the champion league once again before the end of his career. I think Ronaldo so much wishes to play in the champion league which is why he is trying to reunite with his former Spanish side. Lol😅 even at 37 the young man is not giving up on football.

I admire Cristiano Ronaldo a lot however I do not think that it would be wise to bring a soon-to-be 38 year old forward to any major club in Europe. Everyone who has watched him play from his younger years would definitely agree that his quality of play is about 10% of what it used to be. We saw it during their World Cup games that he can't run, he can hardly dribble past anyone. Either he goes to Saudi-Arabia or consider accepting a substantial pay cut and to be a benchwarmer that plays 20 - 30 minutes in some games just as like we saw in the Switzerland and Portugese match.

It won't make sense for a team like Real Madrid to bring in Ronaldo at this time, it will result to nothing. Ronaldo is a good player but the things he can easily do in some years back he finds it difficult to do them now. Ronaldo has made name and he still remains a football legend, but right now I think he is not the best Real Madrid needs.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 16, 2022, 06:29:06 PM

I dont see it honesty,even if the bookies said that Liverpool are the slight favorites i think Real Madrid has a big chance winning at home and in the away match at Enfield. Real Madrid knows how to play in the champions league and has a huge experience in this kind of matches

You can even check it on some sites. Bookies put more odds for real madrid as bookies believe if liverpool will be winning the match. that makes me feel so confidence to pick real madrid over liverpool in the continuation of champion league in february.
he has said based on what already given by the bookmakers and i were also seeing it as well. I didn't know how bookies was picking liverpool as more favourite compared with real madrid.
It's always like that the bookmakers wanna create a trap. Real madrid was in so many advantages over liverpool. The performance from both were having very huge gap.

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Quote from: yayayo on December 16, 2022, 03:48:37 PM

Liverpool are the favorites to beat Real Madrid, according to bookmakers. I see that differently. Last year in the final, Real Madrid actually won without any problems and if you look at the players that both teams have, then maybe Real Madrid has a better selection at the moment? The match PSG - Bayern Munich is not 50-50. the bookmakers think Bayern Munich is a lot better and has a better chance of going through to the next round. It is remarkable.

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I dont see it honesty,even if the bookies said that Liverpool are the slight favorites i think Real Madrid has a big chance winning at home and in the away match at Enfield. Real Madrid knows how to play in the champions league and has a huge experience in this kind of matches

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Quote from: yayayo on December 16, 2022, 03:48:37 PM

Liverpool are the favorites to beat Real Madrid, according to bookmakers. I see that differently. Last year in the final, Real Madrid actually won without any problems and if you look at the players that both teams have, then maybe Real Madrid has a better selection at the moment? The match PSG - Bayern Munich is not 50-50. the bookmakers think Bayern Munich is a lot better and has a better chance of going through to the next round. It is remarkable.

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I don't see that because regardless of anything even though in terms of conditions last season Liverpool were very attacking but still during the last few matches, especially for their 2 Champions finals, Liverpool were always in a losing position so in this case I don't see them as favorites too with its current performance it's like chicks that have lost their mother because they are always confused when attacking which always fail because they are still constrained in terms of goal productivity.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 16, 2022, 09:27:09 AM

The match between PSG and Bayern Munich will be very competitive I am sure. Both teams have plenty of experienced players. However, Bayern Munich's weak point is that one of their players, Sadio Mane, will probably miss the match due to injury. On the other hand, Manuel Neuer, one of the best goalkeepers of the Bayern Munich club, will not be able to play.

If the two experienced players are absent during the PSG vs Bayern Munich match in the Champions League this season, maybe this is very beneficial for PSG because the two Bayern Munich mainstay players cannot make a contribution. But for now the two players still have time to recover from injury, because the PSG vs Bayern Munich match will take place in mid-February which means there is still a little time for both teams.

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Liverpool are the favorites to beat Real Madrid, according to bookmakers. I see that differently. Last year in the final, Real Madrid actually won without any problems and if you look at the players that both teams have, then maybe Real Madrid has a better selection at the moment? The match PSG - Bayern Munich is not 50-50. the bookmakers think Bayern Munich is a lot better and has a better chance of going through to the next round. It is remarkable.

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I think there is about zero chance that Ronaldo will play at Real Madrid again, even if only for half of the season. Although it would be super ironic if he helped defeat Liverpool for example - it would be a shame for Liverpool to suffer from a player who sort of left the Premier League. In general, I think the fact that Ronaldo trains at the Real Madrid base is only a consequence of his good relations with the former clubs where he became a legend. Well, we continue to wait for information about where he will be.

I think we may forget about old Real which plan was just to collect as many starts as they were able to buy. We all know it did not end well.
That's one argument. Another - Real the most probably would spend their money on someone (much) younger who would stay with them for longer. What would CR7 bring them (except maybe extra $ from tshirts and postcards)?

And someone mentioned Zidane - I do not think Ronaldo has the same skills for management and/or training... maybe they may give him bunch of teenagers from team C and see what he will manage to accomplish.

I also agree. Cristiano Ronaldo is not going to impress the Real Madrid authority with his hard work and training as far as I am concerned. It really worries me sometimes that what if Cristiano Ronaldo does not get a team? It will be a shame to see a great player ending his career like this.

No, I really wonder if he should have accepted the offer from the Saudi Arabia team Al Nassr.

I don’t see Real Madrid bringing in Cristiano Ronaldo. Probably Chelsea, Bayern Munich and right now Arsenal might look into this because Arsenal also needs a striker. But why does Newcastle United not bring in Cristiano Ronaldo? That would be something to see.

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I wonder when we will be able to see some other team breaking Real Madrid's domination in the Champions League and winning even more titles than them later on. Real Madrid have won this title for 14 times so far. This is a record that is really hard to be broken. The closest team to them is Milan now which has 7 titles. Just look at this gap I mean.

Even if Manchester City - PSG duo finally get their first titles in the near future it will be a long road for them to capture this record. Real Madrid wouldn't weaken here easily as well because they are always keeping the squad strong and making the right choices for their manager position.

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In all the years that Real Madrid have won the title, they have not been the strong favorites to win the title in my opinion. And especially not last year, when PSG and Manchester City were the favourites. A check with the bookmakers shows that Manchester City is the absolute favorite for the title, but that also has to do with the draw. If PSG wins against Bayern Munich, the ratios will come back to about 1 line in terms of odds. Man City will have an easy game against RB Leipzig.

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Quote from: bering on December 16, 2022, 01:06:29 AM

Neuer certainly will not playing and it is confirmed he will ended this season early but for Mane i think there is a chance to this player to recover considering first leg will be held on February so in the next 2 months maybe Mane will playing although there is no official statement regarding Mane current conditions but lets assume if these players cannot be played on the first leg against PSG and for Mane position it shouldn't be a big problem for Bayern because they have several players who can be replace his position on the team but looking for Neuer replacement is a bit hard for Bayern because so far Neuer always be playing for almost each matches in all competitions so lets see how Nagelsmann will overcomes this situation

Mane seems like he is gone just a month, adding some recovery issues and match shape etc etc, he will probably be ready 2 months later. I am not entirely sure if that's going to be certain, injuries and human body is not an exact science, some people recover from achilles in 6 months and start playing, some never recover and become terrible and retire, Mane doesn't have Achilles issue of course, but this example is known and if there are so many differences then we can't "exactly" know when Mane will be back, it's just a guess.

I think he will be ready to play in UCL, and doctors seems to think like that as well, but that is only if everything works well.

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Messi and PSG are favorites for the title this season. They also showed great football last year, but allowed themselves to be tricked in the decisive moments. Manchester City is also good, but you cannot compare it to PSG in the front. A mutual confrontation would be nice, but we have not seen that in recent years. Real Madrid are an outsider, but often rise above themselves in the CL, resulting in a sensational win over Liverpool last season. And in that match they turned out to be very stable. Liverpool will not win the CL this season.

PSG and man City have both been great this season but its early to start tagging them favourites. The competition will resume after the world finals and we will see maybe they will keep same momentum. PSG has a big test against Bayern and it will be a handful of test for them, until then I am not making any predictions.
Again do not rule out Liverpool because of there bad first half of the season. Many clubs have won this competition playing poorly for the first half of the season. Chelsea's last champions league triumph is a case study

It is really hard to trust PSG to perform well in the Champions League. In the World Cup final, two of PSG's most prominent players will take part. I don’t know how fit they (Messi and Mbappé) are going to be to play for PSG after the World Cup final. And Neymar has already picked up an injury. I am still not sure that he is healthy 100% right now.

But on the other hand, Manchester City are playing excellently in the Champions League. They have a really competent squad as well. And the scoring machine, Haaland is also playing really well for them.

Currently, I am reluctant to trust Liverpool because of their poor performance in the Premier League. They will be under some mental pressure to prove themselves. And that might result in subpar performance for all of them.

I don’t have much hope for Bayern Munich because they have an injury-inflicted squad right now.

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Manchester City are still my clear favourite for the Champions League title just as bookmakers are thinking the same now. I know that Manchester City had times they could have made it to the title in the past but they couldn't take advantage of any. Especially in the finale against Chelsea, they should have been able to get their first title absolutely. Last season was another disappointment as they said goodbye to the tournament in the semi finals after an epic fight against Real Madrid.

Now they are stronger with Haaland. Hopefully this transfer will have a big impact on their reaching their target here. Haaland has already started to make a huge difference by scoring so many goals in total so far. This offense power shouldn't be wasted this time hopefully.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 16, 2022, 09:27:09 AM

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For now it has started to seem to me like PSG are getting more favourite in their matchup against Bayern Munich. The recent injury news are making me think like this. Because Neuer is out for the rest of the season and Bayern Munich might not be comfortable in defense if they don't fill his place with a reliable goalkeeper.

In addition to that Mane is also injured and it is possible not to see him in the first leg. Because he might not be ready until mid February at least. Of course, the team doesn't consist of only these players but these are both crucial players for the team. PSG had better do their best to keep the trio healthy until then.

The match between PSG and Bayern Munich will be very competitive I am sure. Both teams have plenty of experienced players. However, Bayern Munich's weak point is that one of their players, Sadio Mane, will probably miss the match due to injury. On the other hand, Manuel Neuer, one of the best goalkeepers of the Bayern Munich club, will not be able to play.

Sadio Mane's injury was the reason Senegal find it difficult to go far in the world cup, and I know so well that Mane would have loved to play in the tournament. Knowing so well that his absence will cause Bayern Munich a lot just as it caused him the world cup, I think he'll do everything manly possible to recover soon. Perhaps, Bayern is a big team. With their recovery strategy coupled with the little time left, I believe they could get mane back on the pitch before February 14th of next year

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I think he can, Ronaldo hasn't played for another champion league side at the start of the season so that won't be a problem. I have seen clubs make use of their January signing to play games in the champions league and that's what signing Ronaldo's will be like. If Ronaldo's knew he can't play then he won't be looking for a champion league team. Reporters of Chelsea striker Broja having possibility to miss the whole season is circulating and this means Chelsea needs a striker to back Aubameyang up.

Having to circulate between Ronaldo and Aubameyang would be awesome as both are experience strikers that can get us goals when we need them. Chelsea needs to be serious in his round of 16 stages, we shouldn't start this the same way we started the season or we'll be knockout very early. Dortmund attack are scoring lots of goals in their game meaning our defense needs to be fully fits to be able to stop Dortmund.

Ronaldo could improve the attack of any team, but I have not yet seen news that he can become a Chelsea player. At the moment he is training at the Real Madrid base, but it looks like, he just training there until he finds a new club. Today I saw the news that Newcastle is interested him, but it's all rumors, so far nothing is clear. Now again the football world will be watching Ronaldo and his search for a new club.

After being sacked by manchester and also portugal eliminated from the world cup, automatically ronaldo is now a free transfer player and it is possible for him to play anywhere later when it league starts, so far arab clubs have indeed been rumored to want to sign ronaldo but ronaldo desire to play in the champions league is ronaldo reason refused the club offer, I think so far Madrid has been Ronaldo home so when he is unemployed like now it is certainly not surprising that he is training at Madrid but even so it seems unlikely that Ronaldo will return to wearing a Madrid jersey, because previously Madrid had stated if there is no interest for madrid to re-sign ronaldo at this time, so inevitably ronaldo must be able to immediately find another club to continue his career, in my opinion, Newcastle which has now turned into a rich and strong club should be a consideration for ronaldo if their want to sign him, even though this season newcastle is not playing in the champions league but newcastle chances are wide open enough to end the season in the champions league zone this season.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 16, 2022, 10:05:21 AM

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Reports have it that Ronaldo who left Qatar after his country's defeat in the quarter-finals stage was spotted training at Real Madrid. It's a good sign that the Portuguese attacker still has a great bond with his former club, as such may be seen playing in the champion league once again before the end of his career. I think Ronaldo so much wishes to play in the champion league which is why he is trying to reunite with his former Spanish side. Lol😅 even at 37 the young man is not giving up on football.

I think there is about zero chance that Ronaldo will play at Real Madrid again, even if only for half of the season. Although it would be super ironic if he helped defeat Liverpool for example - it would be a shame for Liverpool to suffer from a player who sort of left the Premier League. In general, I think the fact that Ronaldo trains at the Real Madrid base is only a consequence of his good relations with the former clubs where he became a legend. Well, we continue to wait for information about where he will be.

So far from what I've heard, Cristiano Ronaldo has only asked permission from his former team to be able to practice at their training ground to keep his fitness stable. And rumor has it he's getting a separate pitch. There's been a lot of speculation that this could signal a return to Real Madrid, but I haven't heard back from this star of world football. So let's just enjoy the transfer drama from Cristiano Ronaldo.

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