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Quote from: fachant on December 14, 2022, 02:06:37 PM

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Don't be too surprised if there will be big news that comes suddenly because when talking about Ronaldo it seems like this always happens like when he comes to Manchester United and of course leaving Manchester United is also included so it's possible to transfer him later would also be a surprise I guess regardless of where he goes.

Ronaldo will choose a club that is still competing in the Champions League, he can still be included in the squad because the team he previously defended was not registered in the Champions League. Regarding rumors of where Ronaldo will move, it will soon be answered in the next few weeks. Ronaldo needs peace to get rid of his sadness after Portugal was knocked out of the World Cup.

We all know that Cristiano Ronaldo will leave Manchester United. But he should go to a club where he will be given the respect he deserves, meaning he can play every game if he is physically fit. If he goes to such a club, maybe his last career will be better.

I believe many clubs will like seeing Ronald playing in their teams but I don't think it will be a great clubs with grateful names will be after him because those strong clubs know that Ronaldo have not to offer them with his current age. Ronaldo is old and I best choice to keep respect to him record and avoid forder disrespect for his fans is too hag is boats,and start a new career in football like become a coach for the passion he has for football, and I believe with that he will gain more respect. If Ronaldo signs for another club, I don't think Ronaldo will achieve anything like Ballon d'or again.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 14, 2022, 03:14:43 PM

I don't think either Ronaldo or Messi will get away from football completely after their retirements. These are legends who love football very much and we can understand this from their passion to play for longer years still. I think we would definitely see them both as managers or having some other roles at some big teams maybe.

These teams might even be Real Madrid and Barcelona which would be really great to see. It would be lovely to see these legends competing against each other again there.

if they get an offer like that why not because being a manager of a big club will make their name continue to exist in the world of football after all everyone will age and we have to understand that the cycle of football always changes every time maybe after ronaldo and messi retire will comes another great player who keeps the world of football shining

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Quote from: slackovic on December 14, 2022, 02:01:59 PM

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It will definitely be very difficult for players to accept what happened to them due to the unavoidable age. But we know that Cristiano Ronaldo is a player full of ambition to achieve what he wants, but now it is age that prevents him from achieving it.
We will see a few more seasons he will play football before he finally decides to retire. There is something more interesting to me than Cristiano Ronaldo, will his love for football be he will become a coach in the future or decide to completely quit anything related to football. We should wait.

This bold part is actually a very good question, not only for Ronaldo but for Messi also. Both of them are near the end of their careers. Financially they probably won't have to do anything else in their lives but the question remains will they be able to leave football for good.

As I said before, we really have to wait in this case, but it seems that with their current condition, they obviously won't do that and will still try new luck in football, even though in a different way (not a professional player).
On the other hand, regarding the news, Ronaldo is now reported to be training at the Real Madrid training center. Is this really some kind of code or is it just regular exercise to keep fit, this is a pretty big news again for the media.

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Messi and PSG are favorites for the title this season. They also showed great football last year, but allowed themselves to be tricked in the decisive moments. Manchester City is also good, but you cannot compare it to PSG in the front. A mutual confrontation would be nice, but we have not seen that in recent years. Real Madrid are an outsider, but often rise above themselves in the CL, resulting in a sensational win over Liverpool last season. And in that match they turned out to be very stable. Liverpool will not win the CL this season.

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We will not see Ronaldo again in the CL. Isn't it already round that he will play in the Middle East? That is one of the few continents where they are still able and willing to pay his salary. The level is a lot lower there, that will take some getting used to for him. Messi will aim for the CL win with PSG, because Messi has only won the CL once with Barcelona, right? Still pretty thin for someone with his track record. It is a difficult route for CL, winning against Bayern Munich is also far from easy. Although no one can come close to PSG's vanguard.

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I don't think either Ronaldo or Messi will get away from football completely after their retirements. These are legends who love football very much and we can understand this from their passion to play for longer years still. I think we would definitely see them both as managers or having some other roles at some big teams maybe.

These teams might even be Real Madrid and Barcelona which would be really great to see. It would be lovely to see these legends competing against each other again there.

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Quote from: slackovic on December 14, 2022, 02:01:59 PM

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One cannot escape Nature. 2 years backward, CR7 was every coach's desire when it comes to a successful game plan. He has been holding the reins in both club and the national team. And was accorded due respect and regard. But now, age is one of his main hurdles. The speed, the dribbling agility, and the goal-scoring capacity have all depreciated, but it seems CR7 is finding it difficult to accept this fact, perhaps he still feels he could deliver just like he always does in the past and as such, desiring to be featured in every match.
My opinion is that, unless he accepts the aforementioned facts and makes adjustments, he will hardly escape his present career obstacles.

It will definitely be very difficult for players to accept what happened to them due to the unavoidable age. But we know that Cristiano Ronaldo is a player full of ambition to achieve what he wants, but now it is age that prevents him from achieving it.
We will see a few more seasons he will play football before he finally decides to retire. There is something more interesting to me than Cristiano Ronaldo, will his love for football be he will become a coach in the future or decide to completely quit anything related to football. We should wait.

This bold part is actually a very good question, not only for Ronaldo but for Messi also. Both of them are near the end of their careers. Financially they probably won't have to do anything else in their lives but the question remains will they be able to leave football for good.

Lionel Messi is undoubtedly one of the best players of the moment. Today, comparing him to Cristiano Ronaldo would be nothing but foolish. Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi always love to be rivals

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Rumor, there is no certainty in it. After Ronaldo officially parted ways with Manchester United, no one has made an official bid on Ronaldo. The news circulating in print and electronic media is just a figment of the imagination, journalists continue to fry news about Ronaldo to attract reading interest from published news.
Ronaldo who still has big ambitions to appear in the Champions League, will choose a club that can make his dream come true. Chelsea is a good club and is still active in the Champions League, but with the current conditions it is very difficult for Chelsea to win the Champions League.

Don't be too surprised if there will be big news that comes suddenly because when talking about Ronaldo it seems like this always happens like when he comes to Manchester United and of course leaving Manchester United is also included so it's possible to transfer him later would also be a surprise I guess regardless of where he goes.

Champion league was not about ronaldo. There are bunch of competence players that played in the various teams on UCL. If ronaldo doesn't get a team and then he must accept the truth if none from the big team wants him now.
The big club wans young talented players that can be used as future assets if these young players being developed properly. There will be so many interesting match to happen in february. Some clubs will bring the new players to play in the UCL.
I can't wait the begin from last 16 group. I think that it's must be enough talk about ronaldo. Just let him decide what he wanna do after being terminated from MU.

Basically, Cristiano Ronaldo has actually aged. His performance is very bad at present. Because of which no klaa is showing much interest in him. Cristiano Ronaldo should now say goodbye to football with dignity.

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Quote from: arimamib on December 13, 2022, 12:00:59 PM

Quote from: herurist on December 12, 2022, 12:58:59 PM

Don't be too surprised if there will be big news that comes suddenly because when talking about Ronaldo it seems like this always happens like when he comes to Manchester United and of course leaving Manchester United is also included so it's possible to transfer him later would also be a surprise I guess regardless of where he goes.

Ronaldo will choose a club that is still competing in the Champions League, he can still be included in the squad because the team he previously defended was not registered in the Champions League. Regarding rumors of where Ronaldo will move, it will soon be answered in the next few weeks. Ronaldo needs peace to get rid of his sadness after Portugal was knocked out of the World Cup.

We all know that Cristiano Ronaldo will leave Manchester United. But he should go to a club where he will be given the respect he deserves, meaning he can play every game if he is physically fit. If he goes to such a club, maybe his last career will be better.

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 14, 2022, 01:57:58 PM

Quote from: Docnaster on December 14, 2022, 12:44:01 PM

One cannot escape Nature. 2 years backward, CR7 was every coach's desire when it comes to a successful game plan. He has been holding the reins in both club and the national team. And was accorded due respect and regard. But now, age is one of his main hurdles. The speed, the dribbling agility, and the goal-scoring capacity have all depreciated, but it seems CR7 is finding it difficult to accept this fact, perhaps he still feels he could deliver just like he always does in the past and as such, desiring to be featured in every match.
My opinion is that, unless he accepts the aforementioned facts and makes adjustments, he will hardly escape his present career obstacles.

It will definitely be very difficult for players to accept what happened to them due to the unavoidable age. But we know that Cristiano Ronaldo is a player full of ambition to achieve what he wants, but now it is age that prevents him from achieving it.
We will see a few more seasons he will play football before he finally decides to retire. There is something more interesting to me than Cristiano Ronaldo, will his love for football be he will become a coach in the future or decide to completely quit anything related to football. We should wait.

This bold part is actually a very good question, not only for Ronaldo but for Messi also. Both of them are near the end of their careers. Financially they probably won't have to do anything else in their lives but the question remains will they be able to leave football for good.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 14, 2022, 12:44:01 PM

One cannot escape Nature. 2 years backward, CR7 was every coach's desire when it comes to a successful game plan. He has been holding the reins in both club and the national team. And was accorded due respect and regard. But now, age is one of his main hurdles. The speed, the dribbling agility, and the goal-scoring capacity have all depreciated, but it seems CR7 is finding it difficult to accept this fact, perhaps he still feels he could deliver just like he always does in the past and as such, desiring to be featured in every match.
My opinion is that, unless he accepts the aforementioned facts and makes adjustments, he will hardly escape his present career obstacles.

It will definitely be very difficult for players to accept what happened to them due to the unavoidable age. But we know that Cristiano Ronaldo is a player full of ambition to achieve what he wants, but now it is age that prevents him from achieving it.
We will see a few more seasons he will play football before he finally decides to retire. There is something more interesting to me than Cristiano Ronaldo, will his love for football be he will become a coach in the future or decide to completely quit anything related to football. We should wait.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 14, 2022, 07:22:46 AM

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if Santos have started the match against Morocco with Ronaldo, then maybe they wouldn't have lost it. We will never know. After such an unexpected defeat there are always fights and accusations. It's normal and expected. Ronaldo is an exceptional player and I too hope we will see him in European matches.

Yes, no one knows what could have been, but for Santos, the problem is that there is a simple rule: no results - you are to blame. I remember a similar situation with Scolari - he did not take the legendary Romario to the 2002 World Cup and if Brazil had not won, he would have been destroyed immediately. He was eliminated a little later, but Santos did not win, so his situation is worse.
By the way, it is not yet clear with Europe at the club level, but Ronaldo does not end his career in the national team and is going to prepare for the European Championship in 2024.

I have to say when you have someone as legendary as Ronaldo, you play him no matter what. Even if he is a possible weakness in your club, you play him for all the talent and team leadership he brings.

If everyone acts as if he is not good anymore, that's not just hurting him, it hurts the team as well. Imagine all the players in Portugal who played with him for over a decade and now seeing him being benched, he is leader to most of them, and that is why it's a bit of a trouble as well. That is why I believe he should have started, and considering they lost, what could have happened at worst case? Still a loss in the end at worst, and best case they would have won.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 14, 2022, 12:44:01 PM

One cannot escape Nature. 2 years backward, CR7 was every coach's desire when it comes to a successful game plan. He has been holding the reins in both club and the national team. And was accorded due respect and regard. But now, age is one of his main hurdles. The speed, the dribbling agility, and the goal-scoring capacity have all depreciated, but it seems CR7 is finding it difficult to accept this fact, perhaps he still feels he could deliver just like he always does in the past and as such, desiring to be featured in every match.
My opinion is that, unless he accepts the aforementioned facts and makes adjustments, he will hardly escape his present career obstacles.

Yes indeed, the problem is because Ronaldo cannot accept reality and cannot adjust to a body condition that no longer has the speed and great movement like in the past. Therefore, Ronaldo's bad attitude made it difficult for him to get a new club, even though there were still offers from several clubs, it seemed that the club was not Ronaldo's target, so the offer would of course be rejected or ignored.
But if there are still big clubs who want to recruit Ronaldo, then I don't think they really need his performance on the field, but only business factors to be able to increase the club's income.

Thus, I do not have a strong prediction of which club will recruit Ronaldo in the transfer market later, because of course Ronaldo will only choose clubs that play in the Champions League.
If that is Ronaldo's top priority then it will probably still be difficult but I have a few names like Chelsea, Napoli or maybe even Dortmund.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 14, 2022, 01:52:32 AM

Then he should choose Chelsea if Chelsea officially comes for him, he has to let go of all those rivalry and loyalty bullshit. Already that have cause him to not have a successful ending career, assuming he went to Manchurian city as it was earlier started, we won't be here today discussing this because he would had been happy and playing good football just like his counterpart messi. Ronaldo's poor form at the world cup had contributions from his time at Manchester united and how it ended, he wasn't in form because he didn't get good playing times and the environment was toxic to him as he stated in those interview.

Meanwhile Messi was busy enjoying his time and not having much work of carrying the whole team on his shoulder since he had other superstar playing with him. Ronaldo needs a club he can relax and enjoy good football, Chelsea don't relay on strikers to score their goals so it might just be a perfect retiring ground for him and also we're still in the champions league which we're aiming to win.

Chelsea may sign Ronaldo in the second half of the season. We all know that Ronaldo has been unhappy at Manchester United lately, and now Ronaldo has been released from that prison and has managed to get what he wants. Chelsea must immediately make an offer to Ronaldo's agent and side and perhaps a verbal agreement can begin after Ronaldo's official exit from the World Cup.

But one question really crossed my mind, if Chelsea managed to bring in Ronaldo who I know has played in the European League this season, maybe Chelsea can play him in the Champions League? Does anyone know the rules.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 14, 2022, 01:52:32 AM

Then he should choose Chelsea if Chelsea officially comes for him, he has to let go of all those rivalry and loyalty bullshit. Already that have cause him to not have a successful ending career, assuming he went to Manchurian city as it was earlier started, we won't be here today discussing this because he would had been happy and playing good football just like his counterpart messi. Ronaldo's poor form at the world cup had contributions from his time at Manchester united and how it ended, he wasn't in form because he didn't get good playing times and the environment was toxic to him as he stated in those interview.

Meanwhile Messi was busy enjoying his time and not having much work of carrying the whole team on his shoulder since he had other superstar playing with him. Ronaldo needs a club he can relax and enjoy good football, Chelsea don't relay on strikers to score their goals so it might just be a perfect retiring ground for him and also we're still in the champions league which we're aiming to win.

As reportedly told and said by Fabrizio Romano, Cristiano Ronaldo trained with Real Madrid today as he currently prepares and trains fir the next level. If I'm to be frank here, Manchester United contributed to his poor form ahead of the FIFA World Cup leaving and keeping him on the bench to warm.

If he's to choose a side and I'm to be consulted, I would advise he get linked with a club and team that plays the Champions League football. Chelsea can offer him a short contract as they're currently short of a good Central attacker, Borja was recently out with surgery as I think he will surely be out for the season.
Chelsea football club are currently in the Champions League, why not make the switch to the London side after the breakfast and break up with Manchester United.

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One cannot escape Nature. 2 years backward, CR7 was every coach's desire when it comes to a successful game plan. He has been holding the reins in both club and the national team. And was accorded due respect and regard. But now, age is one of his main hurdles. The speed, the dribbling agility, and the goal-scoring capacity have all depreciated, but it seems CR7 is finding it difficult to accept this fact, perhaps he still feels he could deliver just like he always does in the past and as such, desiring to be featured in every match.
My opinion is that, unless he accepts the aforementioned facts and makes adjustments, he will hardly escape his present career obstacles.

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Quote from: makishart on December 14, 2022, 02:04:05 AM

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Quote from: arimamib on December 12, 2022, 12:19:00 PM

Rumor, there is no certainty in it. After Ronaldo officially parted ways with Manchester United, no one has made an official bid on Ronaldo. The news circulating in print and electronic media is just a figment of the imagination, journalists continue to fry news about Ronaldo to attract reading interest from published news.
Ronaldo who still has big ambitions to appear in the Champions League, will choose a club that can make his dream come true. Chelsea is a good club and is still active in the Champions League, but with the current conditions it is very difficult for Chelsea to win the Champions League.

Don't be too surprised if there will be big news that comes suddenly because when talking about Ronaldo it seems like this always happens like when he comes to Manchester United and of course leaving Manchester United is also included so it's possible to transfer him later would also be a surprise I guess regardless of where he goes.

Champion league was not about ronaldo. There are bunch of competence players that played in the various teams on UCL. If ronaldo doesn't get a team and then he must accept the truth if none from the big team wants him now.
The big club wans young talented players that can be used as future assets if these young players being developed properly. There will be so many interesting match to happen in february. Some clubs will bring the new players to play in the UCL.
I can't wait the begin from last 16 group. I think that it's must be enough talk about ronaldo. Just let him decide what he wanna do after being terminated from MU.

What you say is true, but on the other hand, we also cannot close our eyes to Todd's current desire for Ronaldo, although in this case it is still only a rumor, but the possibility is always there.
On the other hand, I also quite agree with what you said about several big clubs who are always talking about young players now because indeed it can be realized that potential young players of course have more value in future prospects.

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Quote from: fachant on December 13, 2022, 12:25:33 PM

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Cristiano Ronaldo is undoubtedly the best player in the world. His achievement will never be forgotten by football fans around the world. However, currently Cristiano Ronaldo's performance is going very badly, his own team Portugal has already left the World Cup. I did not notice his great performance in the World Cup. But after the World Cup we will understand which club Cristiano Ronaldo is joining from Manchester United.

Portugal failure was not due to Ronaldo fault or his declining performance. This is a team game, no individual is able to carry the burden alone, besides Ronaldo don't have the trust of the coach.
Ronaldo is free to choose any club he likes, I don't want to assume which club Ronaldo will choose, he certainly knows the best club for him and of course one that can give him the opportunity to play in the UCL.

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Quote from: fachant on December 13, 2022, 12:25:33 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo is undoubtedly the best player in the world. His achievement will never be forgotten by football fans around the world. However, currently Cristiano Ronaldo's performance is going very badly, his own team Portugal has already left the World Cup. I did not notice his great performance in the World Cup. But after the World Cup we will understand which club Cristiano Ronaldo is joining from Manchester United.

In this world cup, Cristiano Ronaldo did not play in full in every match before Portugal returned home. Likewise when in the Premier League before the world cup rolled around, and now there are indeed several rumors circulating that Cristiano Ronaldo will move to another team if the option is very possible.

Because Cristiano Ronaldo still has to be paid a high figure, even though the transfer fee is no longer so high, every team that wants to take Cristiano Ronaldo must really consider this because considering that his performance is no longer the same as before.

He is no longer at the age he used to be, now even in terms of speed he is reduced. But he is still a player who has its own charm. Almost everything that was done did not escape the news in the media. Until now, where Cristiano Ronaldo will go is still a question because until now there has been no confirmation from Ronaldo where he will go. So we have to wait a bit longer to see which team he will pick.

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Quote from: fachant on December 13, 2022, 12:25:33 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo is undoubtedly the best player in the world. His achievement will never be forgotten by football fans around the world. However, currently Cristiano Ronaldo's performance is going very badly, his own team Portugal has already left the World Cup. I did not notice his great performance in the World Cup. But after the World Cup we will understand which club Cristiano Ronaldo is joining from Manchester United.

In this world cup, Cristiano Ronaldo did not play in full in every match before Portugal returned home. Likewise when in the Premier League before the world cup rolled around, and now there are indeed several rumors circulating that Cristiano Ronaldo will move to another team if the option is very possible.

Because Cristiano Ronaldo still has to be paid a high figure, even though the transfer fee is no longer so high, every team that wants to take Cristiano Ronaldo must really consider this because considering that his performance is no longer the same as before.

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