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November 08, 2022, 10:34:51 PM
PSG is at the better side of winning the match with a skillful and good attackers that the team has. Messi and Neymar have played together as a team in Barca and we saw how great the combination was that season. It will not be a surprise if PSG will be playing the final game.

Real Madrid club is an all star club that is why you see they are specialize in winning UCL. If you are not a good team your team can not get to the semifinals, therefore any team that gets to the semifinals can lucky qualify to the finals. Real Madrid are always lucky when it comes to UCL matches. I don't know if they will have that luck this season to win the cup back to back.
It's still very early to decide who will come out victorious in the match, because all players must return to their countries to strengthen their country in the Qatar world cup, unwanted things can happen, players can get injured while strengthening their country in the Qatar world cup, for now I can't give a prediction on who will be the team that makes it through to the round of 8, I will give a prediction after all the players go home from the Qatar world cup.
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November 08, 2022, 10:02:46 PM

I also think so that such a long pause will make a difference in the respective squads. Napoli became a formidable club if we look at it now, Frankfurt also did not have a perfect match as Napoli. The round of 16 is a good opportunity for Napoli to be able to step into the big 8 phase because their opponents are not so tough. I don't know if this is luck for Napoli or not because they didn't have a really tough opponent. Oh yes Napoli is a club that has only experienced one defeat in all competitions this season. The defeat they got when they met Liverpool in the last match of the Champions League group stage.

Napoli is in great form right now. And if they were to play against Frankfurt now, they would undoubtedly win the match. But don't forget that the match will be held at the end of February. We still don't know how the teams will perform after the long World Cup break. However, if Napoli's players continue to perform well after the World Cup break and no key players are injured, Napoli will dominate both matches against the Frankfurt side. Frankfurt's performance is not enough good. Their performance is unstable and their defence is weak. And Napoli has always performed well against weak defences.
Another problem is we know that Frankfurt always surprises with their defense which is actually quite solid and that was proven when they last season managed to bring the Europa League trophy.
Although indeed this season they are not very good in terms of consistency when compared to Napoli but surely they will be a little troublesome.
Even so, seeing Napoli's outstanding performance at the moment I still feel that they are superior.
Now until February we just need to see the consistency of each team whether they are able to consistently maintain their performance until the round of 16 starts or not.
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November 08, 2022, 03:20:24 PM
PSG is at the better side of winning the match with a skillful and good attackers that the team has. Messi and Neymar have played together as a team in Barca and we saw how great the combination was that season. It will not be a surprise if PSG will be playing the final game.
Based on the match record, both teams have beaten each other so that this one match will be very difficult to predict. PSG have been strong this season, while Bayern Munich are the same. This match will be very different if the three PSG strikers really play to their best quality, so I hope PSG can excel this season than Bayern Munich in the last 16.

PSG should really prove that they are better than Bayern Munich because I think both H2H records are reliable respectively. PSG must win at home because the decision will be in the second leg which is the home of Bayern Munich. But we'll both be waiting for that, it's still a long time right?
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November 08, 2022, 03:07:11 PM
Of course we are talking about the probable teams to advance to quarter finals considering their performances until this point. However we shouldn't forget that there is still a lot of time to go for the last 16 round matches to be underway. Teams are going to play so many matches in their domestic leagues until then. This is a big opportunity for some teams in trouble to make things better for themselves.

I have said these things especially for Liverpool in fact. As you know they don't have a reliable form in the EPL. I know that their effort in the Champions League has been good after that terrible Napoli loss. But Real Madrid is a huge challenge for them. We are talking about the last champion in the end. If Liverpool don't keep up a good form until then Real Madrid would continue to be one step ahead to advance to me.
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November 08, 2022, 02:17:42 PM
PSG is at the better side of winning the match with a skillful and good attackers that the team has. Messi and Neymar have played together as a team in Barca and we saw how great the combination was that season. It will not be a surprise if PSG will be playing the final game.

Real Madrid club is an all star club that is why you see they are specialize in winning UCL. If you are not a good team your team can not get to the semifinals, therefore any team that gets to the semifinals can lucky qualify to the finals. Real Madrid are always lucky when it comes to UCL matches. I don't know if they will have that luck this season to win the cup back to back.
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November 08, 2022, 01:49:24 PM
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league
No, it wasn't a tough game for Napoli in my opinion. So I don't think Frankfurt can make it difficult for Napoli to win the game, but Frankfurt are a team that might surprise at home. Frankfurt have great supporters, they are willing to do everything for their team by supporting and intimidating opponents by making the whole stadium roar.

Among the favourites, I think Napoli is the one I think of in the last 16.
Napoli are undoubtedly a good team. Their team has enough skill players that they can beat any team. Their skills need them to go to the last 16. Good luck to Napoli.
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November 08, 2022, 01:40:02 PM
When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league i will counted Frankfurt as one of dark horses team with their potention to beat strong team and besides that they also has successfully sent Sporting to Europa league which is most people has thought Frankfurt will be eliminate but they can fliped people predictions and qualified so this time Napoli has get decent opponent who possibly can make them slipped

I think this draw is very favorable for both teams. Yes they are lucky not to get a tough opponent. Napoli and Frankfurt are evenly matched opponents. But even though Napoli are still very consistent and have only lost once to Liverpool, that doesn't mean they have to underestimate Frankfurt. The representatives from Germany are the defending champions of the Europa League, they are also a team that is developing and could be a real threat to Napoli in the Champions League. This knockout phase is still very long, these two teams still have enough time to improve. But for this match, I'm looking forward to Napoli to qualify for the next round.
I've had a strange feeling about Napoli playing against Frankfurt. With Frankfurt being looked down upon, it might surprise Napoli if they don't hold their ground. However, in football, we tend to place too much trust in the team that is consistently victorious despite the fact that there are three possible outcomes: a draw, a win, and a loss. In this particular match, I'm picking Napoli to win handily thanks to Victor Osimen's stellar play.
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November 08, 2022, 01:37:04 PM
I don't really agree that Bayern Munich has a weaker squad now then back in 2020. I even would say that Bayern has the strongest squad since at least 5 years now or so at the moment. De Ligt and Sadio Mane were absolutely top transfers before this season and they definitely helped Bayern to become even better in terms of performance density of their squad. Also Bayern now has Jamal Musiala in their squad which is probably the most promising young talent in the world of football at the moment.
That being said, PSG also has a great squad of course and for me the outcome of this matchup is totally open, 50/50.
When Psg and Real Madrid were matched last year, most people saw Psg ahead and Real Madrid eliminated them.  Bayern can do the same this year.  They have a young and qualified staff.  As you said, Musiala is a great talent.  He's also a big talent in their new young player Matyhys Tel.  In this match, the parties have the same odds.  Paris can win or lose.  Same with Bayern.
The difference is that last year people saw PSG as better than Real, this year people see Bayern better than PSG already, so it wouldn't be a shock if PSG lost. This is the team that lost the group first position to benfica, I am not sure if they are that good at all.

I understand that when you see "Messi Neymar Mbappe" names together people think PSG should be a monster, but that monster team failed to be in the first place group, and had to match up with one of the group winners, which turned out to be Bayern. I am guessing that they will probably lose, and if they win somehow, that would be the real shock, not losing but winning would weird.

Bayern Munich is not a successful team in the champions league. Last year Real Madrid eliminated PSG, but that year every Real match was won miraculously. This year I think PSG will beat Bayern and then go all the way to the final. Messi Neymar Mbappe names will do what is necessary this year. Especially this year, the harmony between them is at a high level. It would be wrong to confuse it with last year. When I first heard about the match, I thought PSG would be very comfortable and I still stand by my decision. Football can be misleading, but still 80% to 20%.
Bayern Munich vs PSG match will be very exciting. Both teams are quite strong. But I would like to put PSG slightly ahead because their attack is in great form. Because PSG's Messi Mbappe Neymar can break any team's defense and score at any time. If PSG's defense can show good skills in the match then they have a chance to win.
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November 08, 2022, 01:30:02 PM
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league
No, it wasn't a tough game for Napoli in my opinion. So I don't think Frankfurt can make it difficult for Napoli to win the game, but Frankfurt are a team that might surprise at home. Frankfurt have great supporters, they are willing to do everything for their team by supporting and intimidating opponents by making the whole stadium roar.

Among the favourites, I think Napoli is the one I think of in the last 16.
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November 08, 2022, 01:18:56 PM
I don't really agree that Bayern Munich has a weaker squad now then back in 2020. I even would say that Bayern has the strongest squad since at least 5 years now or so at the moment. De Ligt and Sadio Mane were absolutely top transfers before this season and they definitely helped Bayern to become even better in terms of performance density of their squad. Also Bayern now has Jamal Musiala in their squad which is probably the most promising young talent in the world of football at the moment.
That being said, PSG also has a great squad of course and for me the outcome of this matchup is totally open, 50/50.
When Psg and Real Madrid were matched last year, most people saw Psg ahead and Real Madrid eliminated them.  Bayern can do the same this year.  They have a young and qualified staff.  As you said, Musiala is a great talent.  He's also a big talent in their new young player Matyhys Tel.  In this match, the parties have the same odds.  Paris can win or lose.  Same with Bayern.
The difference is that last year people saw PSG as better than Real, this year people see Bayern better than PSG already, so it wouldn't be a shock if PSG lost. This is the team that lost the group first position to benfica, I am not sure if they are that good at all.

I understand that when you see "Messi Neymar Mbappe" names together people think PSG should be a monster, but that monster team failed to be in the first place group, and had to match up with one of the group winners, which turned out to be Bayern. I am guessing that they will probably lose, and if they win somehow, that would be the real shock, not losing but winning would weird.

Bayern Munich is not a successful team in the champions league. Last year Real Madrid eliminated PSG, but that year every Real match was won miraculously. This year I think PSG will beat Bayern and then go all the way to the final. Messi Neymar Mbappe names will do what is necessary this year. Especially this year, the harmony between them is at a high level. It would be wrong to confuse it with last year. When I first heard about the match, I thought PSG would be very comfortable and I still stand by my decision. Football can be misleading, but still 80% to 20%.
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November 08, 2022, 12:53:54 PM
I don't really agree that Bayern Munich has a weaker squad now then back in 2020. I even would say that Bayern has the strongest squad since at least 5 years now or so at the moment. De Ligt and Sadio Mane were absolutely top transfers before this season and they definitely helped Bayern to become even better in terms of performance density of their squad. Also Bayern now has Jamal Musiala in their squad which is probably the most promising young talent in the world of football at the moment.
That being said, PSG also has a great squad of course and for me the outcome of this matchup is totally open, 50/50.
When Psg and Real Madrid were matched last year, most people saw Psg ahead and Real Madrid eliminated them.  Bayern can do the same this year.  They have a young and qualified staff.  As you said, Musiala is a great talent.  He's also a big talent in their new young player Matyhys Tel.  In this match, the parties have the same odds.  Paris can win or lose.  Same with Bayern.
The difference is that last year people saw PSG as better than Real, this year people see Bayern better than PSG already, so it wouldn't be a shock if PSG lost. This is the team that lost the group first position to benfica, I am not sure if they are that good at all.

I understand that when you see "Messi Neymar Mbappe" names together people think PSG should be a monster, but that monster team failed to be in the first place group, and had to match up with one of the group winners, which turned out to be Bayern. I am guessing that they will probably lose, and if they win somehow, that would be the real shock, not losing but winning would weird.
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November 08, 2022, 12:52:02 PM
When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league i will counted Frankfurt as one of dark horses team with their potention to beat strong team and besides that they also has successfully sent Sporting to Europa league which is most people has thought Frankfurt will be eliminate but they can fliped people predictions and qualified so this time Napoli has get decent opponent who possibly can make them slipped

I think this draw is very favorable for both teams. Yes they are lucky not to get a tough opponent. Napoli and Frankfurt are evenly matched opponents. But even though Napoli are still very consistent and have only lost once to Liverpool, that doesn't mean they have to underestimate Frankfurt. The representatives from Germany are the defending champions of the Europa League, they are also a team that is developing and could be a real threat to Napoli in the Champions League. This knockout phase is still very long, these two teams still have enough time to improve. But for this match, I'm looking forward to Napoli to qualify for the next round.
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November 08, 2022, 12:30:17 PM
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Both coaches still have a lot of time to prepare their respective teams before the match starts, but for now Napoli do have a better condition than Frankfurt, Napoli performance is currently having the upper hand so if we think about it of course Frankfurt is not a difficult opponent to be faced by Napoli, but I think at this time we also need to take into account the World Cup risk so there will likely be a lot of changes in the two squads later both Napoli and Frankfurt, which might send their players to defend their respective national teams.
I also think so that such a long pause will make a difference in the respective squads. Napoli became a formidable club if we look at it now, Frankfurt also did not have a perfect match as Napoli. The round of 16 is a good opportunity for Napoli to be able to step into the big 8 phase because their opponents are not so tough. I don't know if this is luck for Napoli or not because they didn't have a really tough opponent. Oh yes Napoli is a club that has only experienced one defeat in all competitions this season. The defeat they got when they met Liverpool in the last match of the Champions League group stage.

Napoli is in great form right now. And if they were to play against Frankfurt now, they would undoubtedly win the match. But don't forget that the match will be held at the end of February. We still don't know how the teams will perform after the long World Cup break. However, if Napoli's players continue to perform well after the World Cup break and no key players are injured, Napoli will dominate both matches against the Frankfurt side. Frankfurt's performance is not enough good. Their performance is unstable and their defence is weak. And Napoli has always performed well against weak defences.
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November 08, 2022, 12:19:23 PM
When Psg and Real Madrid were matched last year, most people saw Psg ahead and Real Madrid eliminated them.  Bayern can do the same this year.  They have a young and qualified staff.  As you said, Musiala is a great talent.  He's also a big talent in their new young player Matyhys Tel.  In this match, the parties have the same odds.  Paris can win or lose.  Same with Bayern.
This time people are still thinking PSG as the best team in the world with very big chance to win UCL. In my opinion the team like bayern and real madrid have been proven in UCL rather than PSG. That's why i personally doubt that if PSG can even win against another big club like bayern.
All of team have chance to win or lose but the bookmakers will always try to consider various reasons to determine which odd that might be suitable for that team. People are always picking the team with so many world class players on it while it has very bad track record in UCL
I will always try to see the track record in UCL. having so many big players like PSG was also increasing the chance to win UCL but it doesn't enough to give you guarantee if that club will be winning the trophy easily.
Sometime it can even go out from the UCL since it was loosing in the last 16. People are eyeing messi is a key that could make PSG to win UCL
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November 08, 2022, 12:12:39 PM
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Both coaches still have a lot of time to prepare their respective teams before the match starts, but for now Napoli do have a better condition than Frankfurt, Napoli performance is currently having the upper hand so if we think about it of course Frankfurt is not a difficult opponent to be faced by Napoli, but I think at this time we also need to take into account the World Cup risk so there will likely be a lot of changes in the two squads later both Napoli and Frankfurt, which might send their players to defend their respective national teams.
I also think so that such a long pause will make a difference in the respective squads. Napoli became a formidable club if we look at it now, Frankfurt also did not have a perfect match as Napoli. The round of 16 is a good opportunity for Napoli to be able to step into the big 8 phase because their opponents are not so tough. I don't know if this is luck for Napoli or not because they didn't have a really tough opponent. Oh yes Napoli is a club that has only experienced one defeat in all competitions this season. The defeat they got when they met Liverpool in the last match of the Champions League group stage.
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November 08, 2022, 10:21:00 AM
When I saw the results of Round 16's many stunning decisions, I grinned. It will be difficult for the qualifiers. Liverpool might not be in good shape this season, but they shouldn't be underrated. Napoli vs. Frankfurt with Napoli current performance should beat Frankfurt watching their performance in serial A and the other two matches that will be an entertaining are Dortmund vs. Chelsea and PSG playing Bayern. Let's see what each of these teams can do. Man City is playing against Leipzig is a starting bonus for Man City.
About Napoli vs Frankfurt i think Frankfurt will be tough opponent for Napoli although from their recent matches Napoli was better but Frankfurt lately has showed impressive performance and this team since last season has never stopped to surprising me and as defending champion of Europa league i will counted Frankfurt as one of dark horses team with their potention to beat strong team and besides that they also has successfully sent Sporting to Europa league which is most people has thought Frankfurt will be eliminate but they can fliped people predictions and qualified so this time Napoli has get decent opponent who possibly can make them slipped
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Napoli has been playing just great lately getting out of such a difficult group, uncontested wins over Ajax and 11 wins out of 13 matches in Serie A speaks for itself, but you can't write off Frankfurt right away. Frankfurt also got out of the group, and last year in the european league it was also not considered seriously.
In general, it will be a great game of attacking Napoli against a dark place from Frankfurt where every team has a chance.
 
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November 08, 2022, 10:10:09 AM
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Both coaches still have a lot of time to prepare their respective teams before the match starts, but for now Napoli do have a better condition than Frankfurt, Napoli performance is currently having the upper hand so if we think about it of course Frankfurt is not a difficult opponent to be faced by Napoli, but I think at this time we also need to take into account the World Cup risk so there will likely be a lot of changes in the two squads later both Napoli and Frankfurt, which might send their players to defend their respective national teams.
By the way, that's a really good point about the upcoming World Cup, which is undoubtedly a higher priority for any player or coach. But that will end this year and the Champions League will continue a few months later. The only thing that can affect the games of the teams is players' injuries, but nobody is immune to that. Hopefully the World Cup will have a positive impact on the players.
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November 08, 2022, 09:20:15 AM
PSG and Bayern Munich is another big clash in this round. They met each other in the Champions League final two seasons ago and PSG lost that final. Now, Bayern Munich have somewhat worse player squad and worse form but it does not mean they will be an easy opponent for PSG to beat in an aggregated result.

I don't really agree that Bayern Munich has a weaker squad now then back in 2020. I even would say that Bayern has the strongest squad since at least 5 years now or so at the moment. De Ligt and Sadio Mane were absolutely top transfers before this season and they definitely helped Bayern to become even better in terms of performance density of their squad. Also Bayern now has Jamal Musiala in their squad which is probably the most promising young talent in the world of football at the moment.
That being said, PSG also has a great squad of course and for me the outcome of this matchup is totally open, 50/50.

When Psg and Real Madrid were matched last year, most people saw Psg ahead and Real Madrid eliminated them.  Bayern can do the same this year.  They have a young and qualified staff.  As you said, Musiala is a great talent.  He's also a big talent in their new young player Matyhys Tel.  In this match, the parties have the same odds.  Paris can win or lose.  Same with Bayern.
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November 08, 2022, 09:02:24 AM
Arguments about dominance, comebacks, the beauty of football, etc. it's just storytelling. I think you know how the winner is determined in football? We need to score more goals than the opponent and concede fewer. Real Madrid did it against the top 3 teams in the Premier League = it was stronger than them. If it was figure skating or synchronized swimming, maybe someone would have scored more points than Real (and won), but it was football, so Real became the champion.
Nobody is denying them their victory but just because they were champions last season doesn't make them a likely champions this season (especially as they don't have the goat at his prime, playing for them). The season they won the trophy they did humiliated the premier league side but that doesn't mean they were better than them with their on field play, they were just smarter and got the vital goals they needed.
= Real was stronger.
If some team from the top 3 of the Premier League were stronger in terms of a combination of factors, then it would have won, but Real won. The fact that you pay attention to one factor, but ignore others, and most importantly, you ignore their totality - the result, does not change anything.
A Manchester city side would destroy this Real Madrid team anyday and so will an informed Liverpool side but when it comes to the final game Real Madrid always has an edge due to the experiment they have from playing multiple finals.
Let me guess, Real Madrid have been in the finals so many times (and won there) also because of "luck"?
All I'm trying to say is that, you shouldn't disrespect the premier league side just because they lost to a lucky Real Madrid. The bookmarkers aren't dumb, they also want to make money and from their assessment of both clubs they have given Liverpool an edge because they see the quality in the team. It doesn't matter how many trophy Real Madrid wins, they're never the favorite and will never be. They only win when the other clubs don't live up to expectations.
There is nothing disrespectful in looking at the facts objectively: last season, Real Madrid outperformed the top 3 in the Premier League.
I'm rooting for United, Liverpool and Chelsea (and against City) if it's not against Real Madrid (the only difficult pairing to pick is United vs Real Madrid), but that's no reason to come up with excuses and storytelling.

Real Madrid is actually better. A lot of people do not give the team enough credit. A lot of people think that they just got lucky in the last season. But I really do not think that is the case. In fact, Real Madrid actually played better and played very tactically to come back and win a few matches in a row. You can get lucky in a match or two, but you can't get lucky in a match one after another. Keep that in mind at all times. Real Madrid showed remarkable composure and skill to win the La Liga title, and also the Champions League title last season. 

This season, Real Madrid is also playing more effectively. Both in La Liga as well as the Champions League, they are performing admirably. It will be interesting to see if they can repeat the success that they had in the last season.
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November 08, 2022, 08:59:13 AM
I don't think Frankfurt will be a serious obstacle for Napoli and just because Frankfurt beat Celtic doesn't mean they can beat Napoli. True, this game is still four months away and no one knows how things will go for both clubs. But I think Napoli are in contention to play in the final this season.
Well with the way Napoli are firing on all cylinders nobody can doubt the fact that they are a big threat in the CL this season, i for one would not want my team to meet them in any stage of the CL this season, i don't think they might get to the final, but if they do not have such a tough opponent in the QF, i think they will go as far as the SF and that could prolly be where their tournament will come to an end, as for their RO16 tie with Frankfurt, it is going to be a pretty straightforward victory for Napoli, except they capitulate so bad and lose quite a lot of form and momentum before the game, otherwise they are already sure of a QF spot.
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