Liverpool's fans may not be able to accept this performance of Liverpool at present. Because this kind of game is never expected from a team like Liverpool. I think Liverpool is one of the best teams in the English Premier League. But they haven't been able to sustain their best start to the season. But Liverpool is going through a bad time now, I believe Liverpool will turn around again very soon. And I believe they will come back strong in the UEFA Champions League.
It must be admitted that Liverpool performance is far from consistent this season and that is one thing that must be addressed by Jurgen Kloop in the next round of the Champions League. Liverpool is not the team that is favored for the title winner this season if we compare them with some other big teams but this is not a big benchmark that Liverpool will be knocked out in the next round. Kloop will focus all its efforts on being able to bring Liverpool to the Champions League final because in the domestic league Liverpool have a few big obstacles to reach rank 4. 
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On paper, Manchester City can be seen as the biggest favourite for the Champions League title. In the end, they have a more completed squad at the moment. Haaland's arrival will help them become closer to the title compared to the previous season. But we need to see their performance against the other big favourites as well.
For example, their elimination by Real Madrid last season was really dramatic. It was like they were so close to making it but Real Madrid performed a miracle in the last minutes of the rematch. Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.
For example, their elimination by Real Madrid last season was really dramatic. It was like they were so close to making it but Real Madrid performed a miracle in the last minutes of the rematch. Guardiola needs to focus on getting his players well-prepared for this kind of matches this time.
So to say PSG are stronger seems wrong. If PSG are good, he's not in second place at the end of the group stage. They should be able to end up in number one like Madrid so the possibility of meeting in the first knockout phase.
But to say PSG is weak is also wrong. I think if they're right to meet in the first phase it's very interesting. It could be that it was a semi-final too early. Remember last season Madrid also struggled while playing in France, lucky Madrid were able to reverse the result at the Bernabeu.
Real Madrid and PSG in fact are both good in the Champions League this season because they qualified for the round of 16. What hasn't happened after this is just speculation and prediction, but if it is based on history then Real Madrid is always superior to teams that haven't even won a title.But to say PSG is weak is also wrong. I think if they're right to meet in the first phase it's very interesting. It could be that it was a semi-final too early. Remember last season Madrid also struggled while playing in France, lucky Madrid were able to reverse the result at the Bernabeu.
PSG this season has been good because of the improved relationship between their three strikers namely Messi, Neymar and Mbaeppe. They advanced to the last 16 without defeat, but maybe not as good as Real Madrid's achievement, which managed to become the seeded team. Meanwhile, if these two teams meet in the last 16, then I think something that happened last season will be repeated because of the decisive round at home to Real Madrid as the seeded team.
Looking forward to the draw tomorrow, the possible opponents for my team, Liverpool, are Bayern, Real, Porto or Benfica.
Have to admit I’d rather avoid the first two I mentioned.
Here’s to a last 16 Portuguese match up
Have to admit I’d rather avoid the first two I mentioned.
Here’s to a last 16 Portuguese match up
There is a pretty good chance that one of the favorites can already go home in the next round. You can easily get PSG against City or Bayern. Neither of them will be happy about that. City and PSG have been craving the title for years. Every year they start as favorites. PSG had little chance in the final against Bayern Munich a few years ago, but City should have beaten Chelsea on paper 2 years ago. That was the perfect opportunity to win the tournament.
yes, that's how it is in football, anything is still possible but right now the pressure is on the Liverpool team and also PSG because they have qualified for the round of 16 as runners up which means they will face the group winners in the last 16.
it is true that whoever the opponent will face in the round of 16 does not rule out the possibility for any team to be able to go further, but if you are dealing with a team of quality and have a strong mentality on the European stage like Real Madrid of course it will be very troublesome and make chances of getting through to the next round will be smaller.
PSG and Liverpool have huge pressure with strong opponent team at 16 round because finished at 2nd standing whether want or not have to faced with group winner like Manchester City, Madrid, Napoli and Bayern Munich. Except with Liverpool will not faced winner group stage at 16 round with the same country team like Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Manchester City. But PSG have bigger warning because last season have to faced with Real Madrid and bad memorize after Madrid come back on second leg. it is true that whoever the opponent will face in the round of 16 does not rule out the possibility for any team to be able to go further, but if you are dealing with a team of quality and have a strong mentality on the European stage like Real Madrid of course it will be very troublesome and make chances of getting through to the next round will be smaller.
I won't with PSG not eliminated early and next round better facing with Napoli maybe if lucky on drawing schedule held on next tomorrow days, still have Napoli, Spur and Porto are group winner have possibility become opponent for PSG on 16 round.
It means if PSG or Liverpool faces these teams, there is a good chance that they could go to quarter finals easier, or if they face the harder ones then it will be like an "early finals" feeling, specially when PSG meets these big names it becomes very crucial because winner may end up getting the title just like last year.
PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.
Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.
Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.
Yes, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality. Last season when they weren't favorites and even if I'm not mistaken Real Madrid were 3-0 down by Chelsea but in the second half Real Madrid came back and it was like something impossible to happen. Because the opponent is a strong team that doesn't just rely on luck to get to that stage, but Real Madrid with all its capabilities can turn the situation around.
No one denies that Real Madrid has a mental steel, they are superior to PSG and Manchester City in terms of the mentality of the champion. and this time, even without the many signings brought in last summer's transfer window. El Madrid, once again able to overcome the pessimism that initially was not too much of a favorite team. although Don Carlo is often said to be a coach who lacks strategy, in fact they always prove to the team from other challengers. that until now, the existence of Real Madrid remains a frightening specter for its opposing teams in the round of 16 phase later.
as for Manchester City, as we know. they always try to come back to be a challenger in this championship, now their chances are higher than before because there is Haalaad as a goal machine for their team. yes they deserve the title this season.
Agree also about Manchester City and even, last season Manchester City also basically have a chance to be able to advance to the final. But again and again, Real Madrid became the team that beat Manchester City and in that way, all the big teams that Real Madrid played against last season were defeated by Real Madrid.
But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.
But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.
as well as teams from the French league, not much different from what I posted for Manchester City. The MNM trio, became a frightening specter for the opposing team.
another one, for the team from the Bundesliga. although Bayern Munich does not have a pure striker, but Nagelsmann is able to mix his team into one of the candidates for a strong challenger.
so here we agree with you, it seems that the title will be difficult for Real Madrid to get especially if they meet one of the teams that we mention here.
I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
That would be a very interesting match to see that PSG will face city. I can't wait what will be the next opponent for city and PSG. I hope that city will come the big team like bayern or PSG. I thin you shall not also forgot if there are two team that have higher chance than city and PSG to win the champion league for this season and these clubs are madrid and bayern munich. I think that you do know so well the history from both if you were regularly watching champion league for any season. 
I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's Champions League draw. Liverpool and PSG are both in the 2nd group, so they normally have a strong opponent. Club Brugge is a strange name in the list of teams in group 1. You would like to draw lots against that if you are in group 2. But they didn't just become first in the group and played well. There are some very nice matches imaginable, such as Bayern Munich - PSG. Then PSG could take revenge for the lost cup final a few years ago. I currently estimate PSG slightly higher, but that is mainly due to the vanguard.
I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season.
In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
The potential for a big match in the round of 16 is very likely to happen, we'll just have to wait for the draw to be made. Everything can change, because we will face a long holiday, so the potential for the team to change as a whole will be very possible. Not only for Paris Saint Germain, but other teams will do the work to improve before the round of 16 is held.In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
The reason is because apart from definitely not going to play Napoli they also won't be facing Tottenham, Manchester City and Chelsea so the rest means they have the potential to face strong opponents as there are still Madrid and Bayern they might have to avoid.
Liverpool's fans may not be able to accept this performance of Liverpool at present. Because this kind of game is never expected from a team like Liverpool. I think Liverpool is one of the best teams in the English Premier League. But they haven't been able to sustain their best start to the season. But Liverpool is going through a bad time now, I believe Liverpool will turn around again very soon. And I believe they will come back strong in the UEFA Champions League.
I was one of the many who didn't expect this for Liverpool.They are really very bad and this is the worst for the last few seasons for them.
I'm expecting something real now even if it's a little difficult. at this time the long holiday break must be put to good use and of course it is possible to bring in some players for transfers later.
I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
That would be a very interesting match to see that PSG will face city. I can't wait what will be the next opponent for city and PSG. I hope that city will come the big team like bayern or PSG. I thin you shall not also forgot if there are two team that have higher chance than city and PSG to win the champion league for this season and these clubs are madrid and bayern munich. I think that you do know so well the history from both if you were regularly watching champion league for any season. 
Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
In football anything can happen. That's what we need to remember. Even though Real Madrid is the reigning champion of the Champions League and is still in the best form so far, it doesn't mean that we (Liverpool) cannot finish them if the draw for the last 16 is Real Madrid will face Liverpool.Anyone who will face Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will definitely be difficult, but it is possible they can get rid of Real Madrid.
Even though in football anything can happen but when it comes to statistics and performances this season, it is clear that Madrid will still be the favorite.
I might be wrong. But I make this conclusion due to the table. I didn't make comparison according to the players. According to this season table the PSG is looking better than the Madrid. I know you have seen the table but here you can see ut again.
If you like pure facts so much, how do you explain that Real Madrid is in first place and PSG is in second place (couldn't even beat Benfica lol)?
Benfica is better than PSG, that's a fact 
Very interesting
Personally, I think that Real and Manchester City have the best chances to win the Champions League.
However, it must be admitted that Bayern has played fantastically in the Champions League so far, in a very difficult group with Barcelona and Inter, and bookies probably trust Bayern the most because of their results in the Champions League so far.
Last season showed that initial results do not mean much and that the final winner of the Champions League will be the team that is mentally the strongest and most prepared.
In PSG there are obvious problems in the relationship between the main players, Mbappe and Neymar and because of that I don't see them winning the Champions League this season.
Liverpool started the season weaker, but that doesn't mean much. Liverpool is a very high quality and experienced team and I expect them to play much better in the rest of the season. I don't give the other clubs much of a chance to win the Champions League this season.
Personally, I think that Real and Manchester City have the best chances to win the Champions League.
However, it must be admitted that Bayern has played fantastically in the Champions League so far, in a very difficult group with Barcelona and Inter, and bookies probably trust Bayern the most because of their results in the Champions League so far.
Last season showed that initial results do not mean much and that the final winner of the Champions League will be the team that is mentally the strongest and most prepared.
In PSG there are obvious problems in the relationship between the main players, Mbappe and Neymar and because of that I don't see them winning the Champions League this season.
Liverpool started the season weaker, but that doesn't mean much. Liverpool is a very high quality and experienced team and I expect them to play much better in the rest of the season. I don't give the other clubs much of a chance to win the Champions League this season.
Liverpool are experienced cup fighters and their poor start is really unimportant in the later stages of the competition. But I think the pool of contenders is wider than you have indicated - Chelsea are also doing well in the knockout format. In general, almost every team has a chance (and time to prepare for the playoffs).
if liverpool vs madrid and PSG vs bayern happen then I'm sure Liverpool and PSG will lose. From the big teams that I've watched playing in the UCL this season, we won't have a hard time predicting which teams will advance to the semifinals. Teams like Napoli and Man City are also very potential and we can't get rid of the competition.
It's natural for you to be so sure if these teams meet Liverpool and PSG will lose, because Liverpool and PSG performances in the UCL are inconsistent. But you must not forget one thing in football, anything can happen during the game. What you predict on the table is not necessarily happens on the field as you predict, surprises can happen unexpectedly.I have watched so many football matches, unexpected things always happen color the game. There are times when the superior team must bow down when they are defeated by a team that is considered weak, there are also incidents that are detrimental to the superior team due to the mainstay player being injured or getting a red card during the match.
I'm not a Liverpool or PSG fan, but I don't take Real Madrid and Bayern Munich lightly. Anyone can predict according to his wishes, but I dare not say Liverpool and PSG will lose to Madrid and Munich.
Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
In football anything can happen. That's what we need to remember. Even though Real Madrid is the reigning champion of the Champions League and is still in the best form so far, it doesn't mean that we (Liverpool) cannot finish them if the draw for the last 16 is Real Madrid will face Liverpool.Anyone who will face Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will definitely be difficult, but it is possible they can get rid of Real Madrid.
Even though in football anything can happen but when it comes to statistics and performances this season, it is clear that Madrid will still be the favorite.
yes, that's how it is in football, anything is still possible but right now the pressure is on the Liverpool team and also PSG because they have qualified for the round of 16 as runners up which means they will face the group winners in the last 16.
it is true that whoever the opponent will face in the round of 16 does not rule out the possibility for any team to be able to go further, but if you are dealing with a team of quality and have a strong mentality on the European stage like Real Madrid of course it will be very troublesome and make chances of getting through to the next round will be smaller.
PSG and Liverpool have huge pressure with strong opponent team at 16 round because finished at 2nd standing whether want or not have to faced with group winner like Manchester City, Madrid, Napoli and Bayern Munich. Except with Liverpool will not faced winner group stage at 16 round with the same country team like Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Manchester City. But PSG have bigger warning because last season have to faced with Real Madrid and bad memorize after Madrid come back on second leg. it is true that whoever the opponent will face in the round of 16 does not rule out the possibility for any team to be able to go further, but if you are dealing with a team of quality and have a strong mentality on the European stage like Real Madrid of course it will be very troublesome and make chances of getting through to the next round will be smaller.
I won't with PSG not eliminated early and next round better facing with Napoli maybe if lucky on drawing schedule held on next tomorrow days, still have Napoli, Spur and Porto are group winner have possibility become opponent for PSG on 16 round.
Most likely this season will be slightly different from last season, because Liverpool and PSG came out as runners up, it is certain that Liverpool will meet a team like Real Madrid, FC Porto, Bayern Munich or Benfica, because of the rules in the round of 16, it is impossible for Liverpool to meet With three other English teams locked in group winners status, Liverpool is also unlikely to meet Napoli because they are in the same group in the preliminary round, it is very interesting if Liverpool meet Real Madrid and PSG meet Bayern Munich.
if liverpool vs madrid and PSG vs bayern happen then I'm sure Liverpool and PSG will lose. From the big teams that I've watched playing in the UCL this season, we won't have a hard time predicting which teams will advance to the semifinals. Teams like Napoli and Man City are also very potential and we can't get rid of the competition. 
Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
In football anything can happen. That's what we need to remember. Even though Real Madrid is the reigning champion of the Champions League and is still in the best form so far, it doesn't mean that we (Liverpool) cannot finish them if the draw for the last 16 is Real Madrid will face Liverpool.Anyone who will face Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will definitely be difficult, but it is possible they can get rid of Real Madrid.
Manchester city 2.50
Bayern Munich 5.60
Paris Saint Germain 7.60
Liverpool 8.30
RealMadrid 9.50
Chelsea 14.10
Napoli 14.20
Tottenham Hotspur 14.90
Pretty strange bookmaker quotes. I wonder if they will change after the pairs in the 1/8 finals become known.
I can understand why wretched PSG is listed slightly better than Liverpool, but how are they listed better than Real Madrid and twice as good as Napoli? City which is so much better than Bayern is also doubtful - one Haaland injury turns them into an ordinary club.
Bayern Munich 5.60
Paris Saint Germain 7.60
Liverpool 8.30
RealMadrid 9.50
Chelsea 14.10
Napoli 14.20
Tottenham Hotspur 14.90
Pretty strange bookmaker quotes. I wonder if they will change after the pairs in the 1/8 finals become known.
I can understand why wretched PSG is listed slightly better than Liverpool, but how are they listed better than Real Madrid and twice as good as Napoli? City which is so much better than Bayern is also doubtful - one Haaland injury turns them into an ordinary club.
Very interesting
Personally, I think that Real and Manchester City have the best chances to win the Champions League.
However, it must be admitted that Bayern has played fantastically in the Champions League so far, in a very difficult group with Barcelona and Inter, and bookies probably trust Bayern the most because of their results in the Champions League so far.
Last season showed that initial results do not mean much and that the final winner of the Champions League will be the team that is mentally the strongest and most prepared.
In PSG there are obvious problems in the relationship between the main players, Mbappe and Neymar and because of that I don't see them winning the Champions League this season.
Liverpool started the season weaker, but that doesn't mean much. Liverpool is a very high quality and experienced team and I expect them to play much better in the rest of the season. I don't give the other clubs much of a chance to win the Champions League this season.
Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
In football anything can happen. That's what we need to remember. Even though Real Madrid is the reigning champion of the Champions League and is still in the best form so far, it doesn't mean that we (Liverpool) cannot finish them if the draw for the last 16 is Real Madrid will face Liverpool.Anyone who will face Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League will definitely be difficult, but it is possible they can get rid of Real Madrid.
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