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November 04, 2022, 03:03:42 PM
PSG are actually focusing on the Champions League much more than the Ligue 1 now. But it is still interesting to see them not being able to defeat Benfica even for once and just giving the lead to them. This performance is still questionable and it is really difficult for them to make it to the title like this.

It was still nice to see them beating Juventus in both matchups maybe but Juventus were really bad which made things easier for PSG. Hence PSG's performance against the favourite teams of the title is still hard to predict. I just feel like Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich all are stronger than PSG now and any of them can eliminate PSG. The trio of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar will need to work harder than ever in the later stages because the team is literally depending on their efforts.
PSG's ambition is the Champions League for the first time, so this team must fight to get to the final if they want to win the UCL title, maybe in the playoffs, it doesn't matter because they can't beat Benfica and the result is a draw in their home and away matches.
But it will be different when starting in the last 16 of course PSG must be stronger if they want to keep moving forward, for example, they will meet even tougher teams, for example, Real Madrid, Bayern, and Man City, the team's efforts must be able to beat their another team.
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November 04, 2022, 02:52:06 PM
After finishing the group stage which was peppered with a few surprises, we have got a team that deserves to qualify for the next round in the last 16.

I can't wait for the draw in the round of 16, which will definitely bring together the big teams. I hope the favorite teams will not meet first in this round because I would like to see them meet in a more conical round. There are several dark horse teams that have the potential to be difficult, it would be even more interesting if they went further beyond this round of 16. I hope it will actually happen and we will see the favorite team being beaten by the current dark horse team.
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November 04, 2022, 02:41:31 PM
PSG are actually focusing on the Champions League much more than the Ligue 1 now. But it is still interesting to see them not being able to defeat Benfica even for once and just giving the lead to them. This performance is still questionable and it is really difficult for them to make it to the title like this.

It was still nice to see them beating Juventus in both matchups maybe but Juventus were really bad which made things easier for PSG. Hence PSG's performance against the favourite teams of the title is still hard to predict. I just feel like Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich all are stronger than PSG now and any of them can eliminate PSG. The trio of Messi, Mbappe and Neymar will need to work harder than ever in the later stages because the team is literally depending on their efforts.
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November 04, 2022, 02:28:51 PM
I thought I was the only one to realize that PSG does not play as it should play, in my personal opinion I think that PSG have been very lucky in the games, the truth is that their stars are the ones that have taken the team forward, both Messi as Mbbapé and Neymar are the ones who have managed to get the team ahead,
It's still hard to believe someone says PSG haven't been in good form this season especially since Benfica can score so many goals in their last match. I don't think that's true because in reality Benfica were very lucky in their last match. The goal stats for both teams are the same, conceded the same and the points the same, but Benfica are a little more fortunate.

I think that now if in this phase that remains things can change, they have to face teams that are very strong and that can make the difference, if they don't want to be left behind and leaving they should all play much better, I see Real Madrid the same or stronger, like Man City, Pep Guardiola must already be studying any match and these teams are very calculating.
PSG must prove its strength and readiness this season to any team that will be its opponents. They are certainly one of the favorites in the Champions League because of their star players, but if PSG are going to meet Manchester City or Real Madrid then I think they will fail again.
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November 04, 2022, 01:53:43 PM

We have to be prepared to see any result in the Round of 16. Each team has a strong squad to qualify for the Round of 16. But I'm looking forward to watching the Liverpool vs PSG match. As they were runners-up as a group. So no doubt their opponent will be a renowned team. And qualifying for the quarter finals will become more difficult for these two teams.
What Liverpool did in the Champions League and Premier League was very different, maybe because their opponents in the group were not very competitive so they easily qualified for the last 16 even though they lost runners-up status to Napoli. In the last 16 they will face tougher opponents of course, but I am curious about what Liverpool have achieved in the Premier League. Is it possible they are more focused on the Champions League or what?
Paris Saint Germaint are unbeaten in the group stages, but that's because their rivals Juventus are in a very bad state, and Maccabi Haifa are the weakest club.
Liverpool are very lucky to be in group A with Napoli, Ajax and Rangers, because it can be said that only Napoli can be Liverpool toughest opponent at that time, with Liverpool current condition of course there is a possibility that they will fail to qualify if they are in group C or oyther group as experienced by Barcelona at this time, indeed group A is also quite tight if Ajax performance is still like last season but fortunately again Ajax which is now not a strong Ajax like last season, I think there is still a chance for Klopp to improve his squad performance now ahead of the last 16 match, because if it is not of course liverpool journey will soon end in the next round because the last 16 is filled with strong teams.
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November 04, 2022, 01:36:04 PM
Liverpool have really started to seem like they are focused on the Champions League more than the Premier League now. Their recent results in both tournaments can be shown as a proof for that I guess. Liverpool just made a huge improvement in the group stage after that horrible loss by 4-1 against Napoli. They just won their remaining 5 matches straight. They were nearly even taking the lead from Napoli.

Liverpool can return well in the Champions League after the initial lose Napoli match, no one thought that all the remaining matches with wins all meant Liverpool were fighting for the champions league well even they could go further if their game and abilities can be maintained well until the start February 2023.

But as for the Premier League I'm different from your thoughts, Liverpool will still fight for a return in the Premier League even though we are in the middle of the table but with the match only running 12 weeks can still expect something more in the Premier League especially if Jota and Diaz can come back more that start will be more stable for Liverpool.
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November 04, 2022, 01:16:39 PM
The first game between Liverpool and Napoli was actually at the top and we saw tactical discipline from both teams, especially on the part of the Napoli team, which could have achieved a better result or even at least come out of the draw from the Anfield Stadium Liverpool Stadium, but Liverpool took advantage of defensive mistakes from Naples in the last minutes of the game and managed to win two goals against zero with this result and despite the loss of Napoli, the ranking of the first group remained the same, so Napoli qualified as the leader of the group and qualified With them Liverpool second and Ajax Amsterdam went to the Europa League after winning three goals to one against the Glasgow Rangers.

In the other hand for the 4th group where it reflected all expectations and was the deadly group, as it did not decide on the qualifiers until the last minute of the two games. In the first game, Tottenham managed to overturn the result of their match with Marseille and beat them by two goals to a goal after finishing the first half defeated by a goal to zero and was out of the Champions League, but Tottenham, thanks to the experience of their coach and players, was able to turn the result of the game and win two goals against a goal to qualify as the leader of Group D and turn upside down Things and Marseille becomes out of European competitions after Eintracht Frankfurt managed to surprise Spuriting Lisbon and beat them by two goals to a goal and to have the scenario of Tottenham's match against Marseille is the same as the scenario of the Spuriting Lisbon match against Eintracht Frankfurt where Eintracht Frankfurt turned things around and turned the result of the game in his favor after he was defeated in the first half by a goal to zero and was out of European competitions and in the second half and because of the heat of the players of Eintracht Frankfurt and thanks to the strength of their coach they were able to turn the result of the match against Spuriting Lisbon with two goals to one and qualify in second place with Tottenham Hotspur to go to UEFA and knock Marseille out of European competitions permanently.


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November 04, 2022, 12:09:56 PM
Liverpool have really started to seem like they are focused on the Champions League more than the Premier League now. Their recent results in both tournaments can be shown as a proof for that I guess. Liverpool just made a huge improvement in the group stage after that horrible loss by 4-1 against Napoli. They just won their remaining 5 matches straight. They were nearly even taking the lead from Napoli.

I see that bookies are showing them as the 4th biggest contender for the title. Their winning odd is 9.00 now. I bet that it was bigger after that Napoli loss but this is a big recovery. However I still can't be sure of their ambition now. We need to see their passion after the group stage no matter what team they face. They have a too small chance for the Premier League title this season so maybe they will focus on the Champions League title by giving their everything into it.
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November 04, 2022, 11:53:59 AM

We have to be prepared to see any result in the Round of 16. Each team has a strong squad to qualify for the Round of 16. But I'm looking forward to watching the Liverpool vs PSG match. As they were runners-up as a group. So no doubt their opponent will be a renowned team. And qualifying for the quarter finals will become more difficult for these two teams.
What Liverpool did in the Champions League and Premier League was very different, maybe because their opponents in the group were not very competitive so they easily qualified for the last 16 even though they lost runners-up status to Napoli. In the last 16 they will face tougher opponents of course, but I am curious about what Liverpool have achieved in the Premier League. Is it possible they are more focused on the Champions League or what?
Paris Saint Germaint are unbeaten in the group stages, but that's because their rivals Juventus are in a very bad state, and Maccabi Haifa are the weakest club.
PSG have been in good form in the Champions League so far. But they haven't faced a big team so far. PSG's defense lineup has enough problems. I'm sure when they compete against the best teams in the next round, the defense could be the cause of the defeat. If they want to do well in the Champions League, the defense needs a lot of work.
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November 04, 2022, 11:15:54 AM

We have to be prepared to see any result in the Round of 16. Each team has a strong squad to qualify for the Round of 16. But I'm looking forward to watching the Liverpool vs PSG match. As they were runners-up as a group. So no doubt their opponent will be a renowned team. And qualifying for the quarter finals will become more difficult for these two teams.
What Liverpool did in the Champions League and Premier League was very different, maybe because their opponents in the group were not very competitive so they easily qualified for the last 16 even though they lost runners-up status to Napoli. In the last 16 they will face tougher opponents of course, but I am curious about what Liverpool have achieved in the Premier League. Is it possible they are more focused on the Champions League or what?
Paris Saint Germaint are unbeaten in the group stages, but that's because their rivals Juventus are in a very bad state, and Maccabi Haifa are the weakest club.
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November 04, 2022, 09:42:51 AM
After a game like this, we really have to wonder how Chelsea managed to lose the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb, because the big difference in quality between these two teams is obvious.

There is a very simple answer to that question, and the fact is that Chelsea was in very bad shape when they played the first game in Zagreb, while Dinamo was in great shape and had a lot of luck in that game. This is nothing new when it comes to Dinamo ZG, every season the same story is repeated, they literally start furiously in all competitions and then a sharp drop in form follows.

The culprit for the bad preparation of the team is the coach, and Dinamo simply has bad coaches, with the fact that the current one is one of the most incompetent ever, and if you remember how he destroyed the Croatian national football team until Dalic took over and led us all the way to the finals of the world championship.

Dinamo ZG would do a lot more if they had a better professional team that knew how to prepare the players not only physically but also psychologically. Ironically, they believe that the competition was successful because they earned as much as EUR 25 million, which was, of course, the goal. As long as Dinamo ZG does not change the management structure, which is still controlled by two fugitives sentenced to prison sentences, there will be no success in terms of better results.
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November 04, 2022, 09:12:48 AM
As a Milan fan, I am happy with Milan's achievements in the UCL this time. But I still have doubts about AC Milan's chances of reaching the semifinals. Milan players are still not completely good, this is a serious threat. Because, when AC Milan plays against Torino, they can lose, of course the teams that AC Milan will face can be much stronger and better when playing in the UCL. This is what Pioli should pay attention to. Milan need better preparation to be able to win game after game to be able to reach at least the semifinals.
This is an extraordinary achievement for AC Milan, considering last season and this season is Milan's second time entering the UCL, after seven years of absence in this competition.
Despite having a good history in the UCL, Milan has not been able to match the big teams that exist today, there is a lot of work to be done by the coach, even though he is considered a dark horse in UCL this time.
Congratulations to your favorite club, they deserve to be back in the UCL and we are waiting for history to repeat itself for Milan.

I'm not too surprised by AC Milan being one of the teams that made it to the last 16 of the Champions League. Because in the last decisive match they only needed a draw to qualify, but they gave their best by winning the match. And their opponent is RB Salzburg who can only win against the weakest club in this group. But what surprises me is not AC Milan qualify or not, what surprises me is that they didn't try to get a draw, but they dared to go out and attack and it was more effective as evidenced by 4 goals against RB. Slazburg.
Milan went through an imperfect grub phase, losing against Chelsea at home and away, Fortunately Milan are in a less competitive group, having only faced representatives of the Austrian, Croatian and English leagues. Although this is not a good reason, but I think Milan are lucky enough to be in Group E.

Pioli must be good at formulating strategies in the round of 16, if you want to win every game, even though we know Milan will have difficulty facing clubs like Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich.
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November 04, 2022, 08:41:24 AM
It is not right to compare Ronaldo and Vinicius Junior now. Because Vinicius Jr. has not played as long as Ronaldo has played for Real Madrid, he has more time to do good things for Real Madrid. Vinicius Jr. is only young and has a lot left in his career, he can give Real Madrid a lot if he wants to.
No problem to compare them, but it is too early to compare now.
Ronaldo is already a superstar before he joined Real Madrid. While Vinicius is still not really popular. Vinicius needs time to show the people that he deserves to change the role of Ronaldo in Real Madrid. I believe this player has the ability to achieve what Ronaldo ever did in Real Madrid. He is still young (22 years old) but he already becomes a crucial player in Real Madrid squad.


I wouldn't say that it will have more impact on Real Madrid, for me Ronaldo is a complete player and he has a lot of history, he is also highly respected, but Vinicius is going through a great moment in his career, but he couldn't compare with anyone yet , because everything can change, a player begins to buy when at least in 5 years he has remained in the top 5 of the best players in the world, such as the golden balls, who wins many champions, leagues, who is an outstanding player among the most famous players, who is in this case more outstanding than Mbappé, than Haaland and all those who will come from now on.

This season has not been smooth for Xavi and Barcelona as their journeys had to be stopped by the mighty Bayern Munich and the strong Inter. Barcelona lost mentally to Bayern, and they also lost strategy against the Inter defence. It's definitely an unexpected season for all expectations on Barcelona. Xavi needs to make changes so that Barcelona can return to competing in Europe with the best quality. Now they need to prove it in the Europa League.

Barcelona has not generally played at their best this year. Despite investing in a few quality players, they are still having little luck. Is the coach at fault, are the players, or are there still a few players needed on the squad they need to add? With them now playing in the Europa League, I anticipate some adjustments to their game, especially following the World Cup break. Perhaps they'll come back stronger and play like the favourite Barcelona of old.

I think their performance is quite good, it can be seen from their achievements in La Liga
It's just that Barcelona isn't quite ready to face some of Europe's best clubs, we know those who play in the Champions League are the best of each league.
It still takes time to unite some of Barcelona's new players, it is too early to test the cohesiveness of the team especially the front line and the midfielder is filled with new players who need to adapt to create extraordinary combinations.

The challenge of facing some of the top clubs in Europe is really tough. It's a celebration when they beat a small team like Viktoria Plzen, because there was no other team they could beat. After Barcelona's win, they will qualify for the Europa League as third place. A difficult league is over for Barcelona, but they still have work to do to find their rhythm.

I am a person who also agrees that Barcelona still lacks a lot of preparation, yes, I know that Xvi is phenomenal, but unfortunately the team has been great, for me XAVI even though he was a player who was for Barcelona, It's not bad, it was good, a great assistant for Messi to score goals, just like Iniesta, they all worked so that Messi could shine, I don't blame them, having stars in his team is something that should be taken advantage of and used by the other players for them, and that is what made Barcelona win many titles, the gold ones were for them for many years, now things look different.



Very interesting about Inter:

Inzaghi: ‘Inter ready for tough Champions League draw’



It's hard to say which of the top clubs has the best chances and which doesn't as there is a lot of randomness, but I would say that PSG looks the worst - they couldn't even take the first place in their group after losing it to Benfica LOL. And it was a completely natural result: two games and both with a score of 1-1 can hardly be called an accident. I think that, like last season, everyone overestimates PSG, but nevertheless, like last season, second place again (and hopefully relegated to the 1/8 finals).
Not quite well perform with PSG loss compete with Benfica at stable standing and star player can't help PSG finish at top standing group stage, seems faced with first standing finish team like Madrid, City and Bayern are the next team against for PSG at 16 round. Next waiting the drawing challenge which one team face by PSG on 16 round and seems optimist can lead until quarter final, but if can't consistent and loss opportunity at home match draw with Benfica seems less possibility for PSG can lead until 1/8 final stage.

Team have finished at 2rd standing faced bad reality not only with PSG but also Liverpool and AC Milan have ability against with bigger team at 16 round, I don't think easy lead to next round if waiting for by Madrid, City and Bayern.

I thought I was the only one to realize that PSG does not play as it should play, in my personal opinion I think that PSG have been very lucky in the games, the truth is that their stars are the ones that have taken the team forward, both Messi as Mbbapé and Neymar are the ones who have managed to get the team ahead, I think that now if in this phase that remains things can change, they have to face teams that are very strong and that can make the difference, if they don't want to be left behind and leaving they should all play much better, I see Real Madrid the same or stronger, like Man City, Pep Guardiola must already be studying any match and these teams are very calculating.
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November 04, 2022, 08:12:10 AM
It's hard to say which of the top clubs has the best chances and which doesn't as there is a lot of randomness, but I would say that PSG looks the worst - they couldn't even take the first place in their group after losing it to Benfica LOL. And it was a completely natural result: two games and both with a score of 1-1 can hardly be called an accident. I think that, like last season, everyone overestimates PSG, but nevertheless, like last season, second place again (and hopefully relegated to the 1/8 finals).
Not quite well perform with PSG loss compete with Benfica at stable standing and star player can't help PSG finish at top standing group stage, seems faced with first standing finish team like Madrid, City and Bayern are the next team against for PSG at 16 round. Next waiting the drawing challenge which one team face by PSG on 16 round and seems optimist can lead until quarter final, but if can't consistent and loss opportunity at home match draw with Benfica seems less possibility for PSG can lead until 1/8 final stage.

Team have finished at 2rd standing faced bad reality not only with PSG but also Liverpool and AC Milan have ability against with bigger team at 16 round, I don't think easy lead to next round if waiting for by Madrid, City and Bayern.
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November 04, 2022, 08:11:26 AM
Real Madrid is the team that has the best chances because of their track  records.
Manchester City is a good contender in the Champions League and everyone knows they can't be written off.
Next is Bayern Munich and Psg, both has equal and good chances.
I don't count Liverpool in this year's favourites because they are not, they just managed I'm the group match. They may not survive the next round.

You’re right about one thing. Liverpool isn’t really among the top 5 contenders for the race to win the cup. They’ve got a great team and still play beautifully well, but not as they played with Mane around.

Liverpool’s gameplay took a hit with the departure of Mane and in my opinion, they’re yet to recover enough to be a serious threat in the champions league. While Real Madrid has a good chance of winning, I see some other clubs out there as real contenders.

Manchester City and PSG are also great contenders. Personally, I think Manchester city has a great shot at winning the champions league this season. I think It’s pretty obvious to most that Manchester city has got a great team coupled with fantastic gameplay and has a shot at winning the league.
Personally, I think Manchester city has got better chances of getting to the finals when compared with PSG. PSG is strong and play fantastic football, but playing an English side or a Spanish side like Real Madrid might just be too much for them. However, they are a really great side and might even shock me to be better at winning other teams from other leagues than I had hoped.
Liverpool on the other hand may have to take advantage of the next transfer windows to seek a player that can impact with the kind of cohesion that Mane left empty.
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November 04, 2022, 07:18:48 AM
Real Madrid is the team that has the best chances because of their track  records.
Manchester City is a good contender in the Champions League and everyone knows they can't be written off.
Next is Bayern Munich and Psg, both has equal and good chances.
I don't count Liverpool in this year's favourites because they are not, they just managed I'm the group match. They may not survive the next round.

You’re right about one thing. Liverpool isn’t really among the top 5 contenders for the race to win the cup. They’ve got a great team and still play beautifully well, but not as they played with Mane around.

Liverpool’s gameplay took a hit with the departure of Mane and in my opinion, they’re yet to recover enough to be a serious threat in the champions league. While Real Madrid has a good chance of winning, I see some other clubs out there as real contenders.

Manchester City and PSG are also great contenders. Personally, I think Manchester city has a great shot at winning the champions league this season. I think It’s pretty obvious to most that Manchester city has got a great team coupled with fantastic gameplay and has a shot at winning the league.
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November 04, 2022, 07:01:49 AM
Chelsea vs Dinamo Zagreb In the full time game between these two teams, Chelsea scored 2 goals and Dinamo Zagreb scored 1 goal. We saw Dinamo Zagreb score a goal in the first 7 minutes. And shortly after that Chelsea scored in the 18th minute to equalize and again.  Chelsea went ahead with another goal at 30 minutes of the game. And after that there were no more goals in this match. However, Dinamo Zagreb tried hard to score another goal to draw the match but they didn't get that chance.
With the elimination of Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia has no team left in the European cups.  This is a significant loss in terms of country score.  They played an admirable match against Chelsea.  If they had played a little better defense, maybe they could have gotten points from this match.  It is now important where Chelsea can go from here.  I'm curious about the pairings of the teams that made it to the top round.
Dinamo played the best they could against Chelsea, but it wasn't enough because Chelsea is a much better team.
After a game like this, we really have to wonder how Chelsea managed to lose the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb, because the big difference in quality between these two teams is obvious.
It is now obvious that Dinamo missed the opportunity to advance to the knockout phase of the European League competition in the matches against Salzburg.
Unfortunately, other Croatian clubs have not been competitive in European competitions for a long time.

Dinamo Zagreb played very well. I won't deny it. However, Chelsea's performance in this match impressed me. I haven't seen a very good performance from Chelsea in the past matches. They would not have been able to attack much. But against Dinamo Chelsea players tried their best to win the match. And they attacked a lot to break down Dinamo's defence. Chelsea's players were able to take a 2-1 lead in the first half. However, both teams continued to try and score in the second half. Overall the match was enjoyable. And I'm happy, because in this match I bet Chelsea to win.
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November 04, 2022, 06:33:59 AM
Chelsea vs Dinamo Zagreb In the full time game between these two teams, Chelsea scored 2 goals and Dinamo Zagreb scored 1 goal. We saw Dinamo Zagreb score a goal in the first 7 minutes. And shortly after that Chelsea scored in the 18th minute to equalize and again.  Chelsea went ahead with another goal at 30 minutes of the game. And after that there were no more goals in this match. However, Dinamo Zagreb tried hard to score another goal to draw the match but they didn't get that chance.
With the elimination of Dinamo Zagreb, Croatia has no team left in the European cups.  This is a significant loss in terms of country score.  They played an admirable match against Chelsea.  If they had played a little better defense, maybe they could have gotten points from this match.  It is now important where Chelsea can go from here.  I'm curious about the pairings of the teams that made it to the top round.

Dinamo played the best they could against Chelsea, but it wasn't enough because Chelsea is a much better team.
After a game like this, we really have to wonder how Chelsea managed to lose the first game against Dinamo in Zagreb, because the big difference in quality between these two teams is obvious.
It is now obvious that Dinamo missed the opportunity to advance to the knockout phase of the European League competition in the matches against Salzburg.
Unfortunately, other Croatian clubs have not been competitive in European competitions for a long time.
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November 04, 2022, 06:28:58 AM
Real Madrid is the team that has the best chances because of their track  records.
Manchester City is a good contender in the Champions League and everyone knows they can't be written off.
Next is Bayern Munich and Psg, both has equal and good chances.
I don't count Liverpool in this year's favourites because they are not, they just managed I'm the group match. They may not survive the next round.

It's hard to say which of the top clubs has the best chances and which doesn't as there is a lot of randomness, but I would say that PSG looks the worst - they couldn't even take the first place in their group after losing it to Benfica LOL. And it was a completely natural result: two games and both with a score of 1-1 can hardly be called an accident. I think that, like last season, everyone overestimates PSG, but nevertheless, like last season, second place again (and hopefully relegated to the 1/8 finals).
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November 04, 2022, 06:02:58 AM
Maybe in this case we should also look at the 16-team drawing which will be held on the 7th.
I think it is quite exciting now to see that there are several dark horse clubs and there are still several clubs that are subscribed to the last 16 competing.
It is very likely that PSG or Liverpool as runners up will be a strong match later because this will be like a big match at the wrong time.
On the other hand I expect something more from some dark horse clubs just as Villarreal did last season.

We have to be prepared to see any result in the Round of 16. Each team has a strong squad to qualify for the Round of 16. But I'm looking forward to watching the Liverpool vs PSG match. As they were runners-up as a group. So no doubt their opponent will be a renowned team. And qualifying for the quarter finals will become more difficult for these two teams.
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