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November 06, 2022, 07:07:18 AM
PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.

Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.

Yes, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality. Last season when they weren't favorites and even if I'm not mistaken Real Madrid were 3-0 down by Chelsea but in the second half Real Madrid came back and it was like something impossible to happen. Because the opponent is a strong team that doesn't just rely on luck to get to that stage, but Real Madrid with all its capabilities can turn the situation around.

No one denies that Real Madrid has a mental steel, they are superior to PSG and Manchester City in terms of the mentality of the champion. and this time, even without the many signings brought in last summer's transfer window. El Madrid, once again able to overcome the pessimism that initially was not too much of a favorite team. although Don Carlo is often said to be a coach who lacks strategy, in fact they always prove to the team from other challengers. that until now, the existence of Real Madrid remains a frightening specter for its opposing teams in the round of 16 phase later.

as for Manchester City, as we know. they always try to come back to be a challenger in this championship, now their chances are higher than before because there is Haalaad as a goal machine for their team. yes they deserve the title this season.

Agree also about Manchester City and even, last season Manchester City also basically have a chance to be able to advance to the final. But again and again, Real Madrid became the team that beat Manchester City and in that way, all the big teams that Real Madrid played against last season were defeated by Real Madrid.
But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.

as well as teams from the French league, not much different from what I posted for Manchester City. The MNM trio, became a frightening specter for the opposing team.

another one, for the team from the Bundesliga. although Bayern Munich does not have a pure striker, but Nagelsmann is able to mix his team into one of the candidates for a strong challenger.

so here we agree with you, it seems that the title will be difficult for Real Madrid to get especially if they meet one of the teams that we mention here.
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November 06, 2022, 07:03:31 AM
And comparing a club based on each group isn't accurate to determine the outcome.
In group F which is Real Madrid's opponents, there's Leipzig was at 4th position on Germany Bundesliga, Shakhtar was a champion on Ukraine League, and Celtic was a champion on Scotland League.

While in group H, there's Benfica was at 3rd position on Portugal League, Juventus was at 4th position on Serie A, and Maccabi Haifa was a champion on Israel League.

As we can see there's huge difference where Real Madrid's group have 4 strong clubs inside, while PSG doesn't.

So to say PSG are stronger seems wrong. If PSG are good, he's not in second place at the end of the group stage. They should be able to end up in number one like Madrid so the possibility of meeting in the first knockout phase.
But to say PSG is weak is also wrong. I think if they're right to meet in the first phase it's very interesting. It could be that it was a semi-final too early. Remember last season Madrid also struggled while playing in France, lucky Madrid were able to reverse the result at the Bernabeu.
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November 06, 2022, 06:54:45 AM
Most likely this season will be slightly different from last season, because Liverpool and PSG came out as runners up, it is certain that Liverpool will meet a team like Real Madrid, FC Porto, Bayern Munich or Benfica, because of the rules in the round of 16, it is impossible for Liverpool to meet With three other English teams locked in group winners status, Liverpool is also unlikely to meet Napoli because they are in the same group in the preliminary round, it is very interesting if Liverpool meet Real Madrid and PSG meet Bayern Munich.
Liverpool will feel very pressured if they have to meet Real Madrid in the round of 16, because Real Madrid is a team that often has good performances in the Champions League and very often beats big teams from any league in the Champions League. It looks like Liverpool must really give everything if the next match in the Champions League meets Real Madrid directly, because Liverpool definitely knows that the quality of Real Madrid in the Champions League is still very important this season.
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November 06, 2022, 04:03:22 AM
I might be wrong. But I make this conclusion due to the table. I didn't make comparison according to the players. According to this season table the PSG is looking better than the Madrid. I know you have seen the table but here you can see ut again.




And comparing a club based on each group isn't accurate to determine the outcome.
In group F which is Real Madrid's opponents, there's Leipzig was at 4th position on Germany Bundesliga, Shakhtar was a champion on Ukraine League, and Celtic was a champion on Scotland League.

While in group H, there's Benfica was at 3rd position on Portugal League, Juventus was at 4th position on Serie A, and Maccabi Haifa was a champion on Israel League.

As we can see there's huge difference where Real Madrid's group have 4 strong clubs inside, while PSG doesn't.
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November 06, 2022, 02:46:11 AM
there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.
if Napoli manages to maintain their performance and also play well in every game it looks like they can win the champions league this season, of course if that happens, I think this will be history for Napoli and also Napoli can represent a club from Italy to become champions league champion this season , but keep in mind that there are several clubs that have to be beaten by Napoli, namely Manchester City, PSG, Munich and Real Madrid because they are the 4 big clubs that I think are scary this season.

Even to focus on Serie A, Napoli still have to make great efforts, so for me Napoli still don't have the quality to be able to win the Champions League title.
Meanwhile, we know that teams like Manchester City, PSG, Bayern Munich from season to season always improve just to win the Champions League title. Because they haven't won the Champions League title in the last few seasons, and in fact the efforts they have put in are very large to win the Champions League title but have not yet achieved it.

So, if you say Napoli will win the Champions League title this season in my opinion it is impossible, even though in football anything can still happen but still, I believe Napoli will not reach the Champions League final this season. Because even though they are good in Serie A so far, but in fact Napoli have not purely got all the wins in every match and there are still teams that are able to hold Napoli to a draw in Serie A.

Therefore, it was too soon to choose Napoli as a candidate for the Champions League title, because the Champions League is a big tournament which of course every team that wants to win the Champions League title does not only rely on luck because it requires high consistency from season to season.
I'm also not completely sure Napoli can become champions only if they play well and are able to play against other big clubs nothing is impossible, if you look at other Italian clubs, I think Napoli will probably represent him compared to Intermilan and AC Milan although I don't know the club who will meet Napoli in the last 16 match

Napoli are not yet ready to win the Champions League title. The Champions League is the biggest tournament in which the biggest clubs from all over the world participate. Napoli will have to work harder and I think Napoli will not win the Champions League title in the next three-four seasons.
nothing is impossible in football, even big clubs can lose to lower clubs because they underestimate the game, so I also don't know if Napoli are ready to become champions or not, let's see if Napoli can reach the final later
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November 06, 2022, 02:42:26 AM
by only finishing as Runner Up makes PSG's move to be even more difficult in the round of 16 because they will meet one of the group winners, of course it will be a tough move.
and until now PSG's performance in the UCL stage is still not satisfactory even though they have many expensive players but that does not guarantee their performance.
To be able to win on the European stage it is not only because of money, the mentality of the team is also needed, I think compared to PSG a few seasons ago Manchester City have also experienced the same thing as them but until now they have not won.
This season PSG and Manchester City will both fight again in the UCL to get the trophy, but the struggle that will be faced by PSG will obviously be tougher than Manchester City at the start of the last 16, because Manchester City were able to finish as group winners, while PSG only able to finish second with the same number of points as Benfica. But I believe that PSG are still able to overcome every game they will play in the round of 16
both Manchester City and PSG are doing well in this year's Champion's League. I am expecting that both clubs will make it in the next round and no matter whoever they are fixtured to play against. The main thing that will make one of them to drop is if both are featured to play together otherwise both of them will escape the next stage of the Champions League.

Psg ending second means  some other clubs will get it difficult and it will spicy the league.
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November 06, 2022, 12:53:06 AM
So far the psg team or squad has done nothing spectacular in the champions league this season. They could not even top their group and scored most of the group game goals against the farmer team in Maccabi. It feels as though they will be knocked out in the  next round
It's caused by PSG was not placed in the strong group. The last 16 will become a stage that will decide the future of PSG. This club is always performing good in any season of UCL but PSG never won the UCL trophye. That proves if PSG is not so competitive compared with its opponent like bayern, chelsea, liverpool, city or even king real madrid which has become a team with most UCL trophies. PSG doesn't need only to build its club and performance but mentality from players must be there to make sure if it can go to the final and take UCL trophy.
This club has no UCL trophy and that's pretty sad for PSG with so many world class players in the club.
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November 05, 2022, 09:31:33 PM
I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
No, I won't. I would like to see them in Semifinal or Final.
If I look at a table, besides PSG, ManCity will be able to face RB Leipzig, AC Milan, Eintracht Frankfurt, Inter Milan, and Club Brugge in 16 rounds. It's too fast if we have to watch the classic match at the beginning, they will knock each other down so that next round we can see only the club which is not so famous. I would like See them to face Italy club, Milan or Inter. If face one of them, the city step is more easy to next round.
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November 05, 2022, 09:26:01 PM
I personally think Psg is a better team than Real Madrid.  Real Madrid is a good team, we can't deny that.  Psg has been excellent this year.  Especially Messi is making very good contributions this year.  Together with Neymar, they are very successful in the team.  When Mbappe's magic feet kick in, an enormous striker trio emerges.  That's why this trio is an offensive line that can be a nightmare for any team.  Real Madrid eliminated them last year but I think Psg can eliminate if the same thing happens this year.
I also think that the PSG is more better then the Real Madrid. But Real Madrid is also performing well. And we can't say anything about this who will perform well. I think they both will perform well. And match can be more interesting.
Because you have seen three good players at the front of PSG team you now concluded that PSG is better than Real Madrid this season. How do you make your conclusion? mbappe is not better than Vinicius this season  Messi is not better than Benzema, Rodrigo and Velveders can stand for Neyma. In full team bonding Real Madrid is better than psg. Madrid is topping their league and finished first in the Champions League which was difficult for PSG to do.

That is how we continue to underate Madrid every year and they keep proving us wrong.
I might be wrong. But I make this conclusion due to the table. I didn't make comparison according to the players. According to this season table the PSG is looking better than the Madrid. I know you have seen the table but here you can see ut again.



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November 05, 2022, 07:58:07 PM
by only finishing as Runner Up makes PSG's move to be even more difficult in the round of 16 because they will meet one of the group winners, of course it will be a tough move.
and until now PSG's performance in the UCL stage is still not satisfactory even though they have many expensive players but that does not guarantee their performance.
To be able to win on the European stage it is not only because of money, the mentality of the team is also needed, I think compared to PSG a few seasons ago Manchester City have also experienced the same thing as them but until now they have not won.
This season PSG and Manchester City will both fight again in the UCL to get the trophy, but the struggle that will be faced by PSG will obviously be tougher than Manchester City at the start of the last 16, because Manchester City were able to finish as group winners, while PSG only able to finish second with the same number of points as Benfica. But I believe that PSG are still able to overcome every game they will play in the round of 16
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November 05, 2022, 07:32:11 PM
We can conclude that there will be some nice matches from the draw next Monday. PSG came in 2nd in the group, so that could be a huge spectacle. Liverpool is not having a great season, came in 2nd but you don't want to play against that either. Manchester City - PSG would be a great poster, both teams will not be happy with that. Real Madrid made a tough draw last year, eliminating all title favorites 1 for 1. I don't think they will repeat that feat this season, it didn't look convincing in the group stage either, but they were also in a relatively weak group of course. We will know more about the draw on Monday and then we will also keep an eye on the odds of the bookmakers after the draw.

I would like to see psg and Manchester city playing against each other's in the next round because i believe this clashe will determine who will be the champoin this year, both teams are in a very good format and i believe one of them will be able to get the trophy this year
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November 05, 2022, 05:51:29 PM
We can conclude that there will be some nice matches from the draw next Monday. PSG came in 2nd in the group, so that could be a huge spectacle. Liverpool is not having a great season, came in 2nd but you don't want to play against that either. Manchester City - PSG would be a great poster, both teams will not be happy with that. Real Madrid made a tough draw last year, eliminating all title favorites 1 for 1. I don't think they will repeat that feat this season, it didn't look convincing in the group stage either, but they were also in a relatively weak group of course. We will know more about the draw on Monday and then we will also keep an eye on the odds of the bookmakers after the draw.
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November 05, 2022, 05:48:09 PM
PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season.
In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
The potential for a big match in the round of 16 is very likely to happen, we'll just have to wait for the draw to be made. Everything can change, because we will face a long holiday, so the potential for the team to change as a whole will be very possible. Not only for Paris Saint Germain, but other teams will do the work to improve before the round of 16 is held.
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November 05, 2022, 05:33:29 PM
PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
I'm still not too sure about that, especially in the last 16 there is a possibility that they will face a Big Match considering that they have to be in second place in the group phase so it is very likely that they will do the same Big Match in this phase as last season.
In terms of players in the squad they are still very decent but of course this is not only a matter of players but the coach's scheme is also taken into account and you could say Galtier is a debutant for the Champions League so this could be something that is indeed the same as last season.
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November 05, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

The PSG squad is now more organized and stronger than at the start of the season. At the start of the season, PSG had a lot of problems internally. But gradually Galtier managed to solve all the problems. And the important thing is that Messi is in great form. If Messi, Neymar and Mabppe play well, PSG will get good results against any team. And so I think PSG are more favorites for the title this season than City. But all have strong squads. So it is not easy for any team to win the title

So far the psg team or squad has done nothing spectacular in the champions league this season. They could not even top their group and scored most of the group game goals against the farmer team in Maccabi. It feels as though they will be knocked out in the  next round
PSG is a big candidate for the title winner this season because this season PSG have a deadly trio up front, this is what makes me believe PSG can beat their opponents in the next round. Real Madrid have a winning mentality and their squad is also very strong for this season. Bayern munich and manchester city are among the strong candidates for the title this season seeing their performance in the domestic league and in the ucl is very impressive for this season i think they will try hard to get the ucl trophy. Maybe we shouldn't forget Napoli they are group winners with a pretty good performance so far.
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November 05, 2022, 04:13:40 PM
PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.

Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.

Yes, Real Madrid has a real winning mentality. Last season when they weren't favorites and even if I'm not mistaken Real Madrid were 3-0 down by Chelsea but in the second half Real Madrid came back and it was like something impossible to happen. Because the opponent is a strong team that doesn't just rely on luck to get to that stage, but Real Madrid with all its capabilities can turn the situation around.

Agree also about Manchester City and even, last season Manchester City also basically have a chance to be able to advance to the final. But again and again, Real Madrid became the team that beat Manchester City and in that way, all the big teams that Real Madrid played against last season were defeated by Real Madrid.
But it looks like this season will be very different for the Real Madrid squad, although so far they are still doing well in La Liga but it looks like the hurdles in the Champions League will be getting tougher for Real Madrid.
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November 05, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
I personally think Psg is a better team than Real Madrid.  Real Madrid is a good team, we can't deny that.  Psg has been excellent this year.  Especially Messi is making very good contributions this year.  Together with Neymar, they are very successful in the team.  When Mbappe's magic feet kick in, an enormous striker trio emerges.  That's why this trio is an offensive line that can be a nightmare for any team.  Real Madrid eliminated them last year but I think Psg can eliminate if the same thing happens this year.
I also think that the PSG is more better then the Real Madrid. But Real Madrid is also performing well. And we can't say anything about this who will perform well. I think they both will perform well. And match can be more interesting.
Because you have seen three good players at the front of PSG team you now concluded that PSG is better than Real Madrid this season. How do you make your conclusion? mbappe is not better than Vinicius this season  Messi is not better than Benzema, Rodrigo and Velveders can stand for Neyma. In full team bonding Real Madrid is better than psg. Madrid is topping their league and finished first in the Champions League which was difficult for PSG to do.

That is how we continue to underate Madrid every year and they keep proving us wrong.
In this case, in terms of names, maybe Neymar, Messi or Mbappe can be said to be more prestige because they get a lot of attention, but on the other hand, Madrid's young people are still very good in my opinion, especially this season.
We know that when Benzema is not in Rodrygo's squad it can always be a good option, not to mention that their two wings Valverde or Vini always surprises especially Valverde's performance this season has shown a rapid increase because he can also be placed anywhere which can be an added value.
Let's not forget that Madrid are the reigning kings this season so indeed to say PSG is much more now it's clear that many disagree, including me.
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November 05, 2022, 04:10:35 PM
PSG are not better than Real Madrid, just more expensive.
I agree, but here's a comparison of the two teams specifically team value based by https://www.transfermarkt.com/






Yes, many consider PSG a title candidate just because they have the most expensive players in the world. And every year a lot of people say PSG will win the Champions League, but they lose in the play-offs regularly. It seems to me that this season, like last season, there are many teams that are playing much better. All the same Real, Manchester City, Bayern, and of course this season's sensation Napoli.[/quote]
I think PSG have just been unlucky in terms of the Champions League title, they have failed many seasons even after reaching the final. This season doesn't look much different either, but who knows? In fact there are many teams that could be seeded in the last 16 including PSG, so they have a chance.
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November 05, 2022, 04:04:24 PM
Manchester city 2.50

Bayern Munich 5.60

Paris Saint Germain 7.60

Liverpool 8.30

RealMadrid 9.50

Chelsea 14.10

Napoli 14.20

Tottenham Hotspur 14.90

Pretty strange bookmaker quotes. I wonder if they will change after the pairs in the 1/8 finals become known.
I can understand why wretched PSG is listed slightly better than Liverpool, but how are they listed better than Real Madrid and twice as good as Napoli? City which is so much better than Bayern is also doubtful - one Haaland injury turns them into an ordinary club.
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November 05, 2022, 04:04:02 PM
PSG just have a better squad quality than Real Madrid's indeed. But when it comes to the experience in the Champions League, Real Madrid are far ahead of PSG now. Real Madrid are already the dominating team in this tournament above all else. They are the most title winning team now. Last season, there weren't the majority of people who thought Real Madrid would make it to the title but they made it somehow.

Real Madrid are again the secret favourite team for the championship. Maybe bookmakers are insisting on showing them as less likely than many teams but it isn't fair for Real Madrid. I think Real Madrid are the closest contender for it right after Manchester City. I'm putting Manchester City to the top because they are a complete team now with Haaland. This season could really be it for them. Guardiola wants to add this title to his collection with this team before leaving.
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