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Quote from: borovichok on October 17, 2022, 11:05:09 AM

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They are still a young team, which explains their current situation. Barcelona haven't stabilised yet and progressing with such a situation is difficult. Barca fans may feel uncertain about this team, especially if they look at Barca back-line.

Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

Xavi has done great since returning to Barcelona as a coach, he came when the team was pretty bad,and he improve the team my issues with him and Laporta the Barcelona president is the type of players that they brought in, yes they got Lawendowski the polish striker is world class and has improved the team very well since he came, but bringing players like Christensen and Alonso that are slow and not class kind of playing is annoying,how can you replace alba with Alonso? And this is drawing the club backward.

agree with you The team has improved a lot since Xavi took over as coach at Barcelona. I once thought that Barcelona could not come back. But after Xavi joined as a coach, he added some new players to the team and made the team much better through training. We can not be disappointed with the current performance and hope that Barcelona will give their best game very soon.

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Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

Playing with young defenders are always a big gamble, all other positions you can fill youngsters but especially central defenders need to be experienced. Major clubs like Barcelona have no luxury to play with inexperienced defenders.
I don't think Barcelona had any chance left in Champions League anyway. They should go to Europa League route and try to win that trophy.

you are right Barcelona's current defense lineup is in a very poor state. Adding some new defense to their team is now essential. Also I would like to see a change in the midfielders, who should respect Busquets and if we add a good midfielder in his place the team will become stronger.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

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They are still a young team, which explains their current situation. Barcelona haven't stabilised yet and progressing with such a situation is difficult. Barca fans may feel uncertain about this team, especially if they look at Barca back-line.

Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

Xavi has done great since returning to Barcelona as a coach, he came when the team was pretty bad,and he improve the team my issues with him and Laporta the Barcelona president is the type of players that they brought in, yes they got Lawendowski the polish striker is world class and has improved the team very well since he came, but bringing players like Christensen and Alonso that are slow and not class kind of playing is annoying,how can you replace alba with Alonso? And this is drawing the club backward.

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Quote from: redhack on October 17, 2022, 10:49:56 AM

Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

Playing with young defenders are always a big gamble, all other positions you can fill youngsters but especially central defenders need to be experienced. Major clubs like Barcelona have no luxury to play with inexperienced defenders.
I don't think Barcelona had any chance left in Champions League anyway. They should go to Europa League route and try to win that trophy.

I agree with you. Young players can be given opportunities in attack. Because the young striker is capable of performing well if given sufficient support. But the defense should definitely have an experienced defender. It is very difficult to perform well if the defense is not strong and the defenders are not experienced. Barcelona's defense has been weak since last season. Xavi spent a lot of money to strengthen his attack. He should have strengthened his defense. He didn't do it. And its bad results are quite visible now.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 17, 2022, 10:00:20 AM

Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

Playing with young defenders are always a big gamble, all other positions you can fill youngsters but especially central defenders need to be experienced. Major clubs like Barcelona have no luxury to play with inexperienced defenders.
I don't think Barcelona had any chance left in Champions League anyway. They should go to Europa League route and try to win that trophy.

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Quote from: onecall123 on October 17, 2022, 09:46:07 AM

They are still a young team, which explains their current situation. Barcelona haven't stabilised yet and progressing with such a situation is difficult. Barca fans may feel uncertain about this team, especially if they look at Barca back-line.

Their problem is that they haven't found Pique's replacement. Pique is already 35 years old and his physique has declined. Even Pique always has a hard time facing a striker who can run quickly. I think Xavi should start thinking about the central defender. I think he should be brave to start the rotation,for example by installing Kounde as the starting line up. Because Xavi is carrying a mission of improvement and he deserves to give more playing time to the younger defenders.

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I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

After getting a draw from Inter Milan, I see Barcelona chances of qualifying for the last 16 are very small. In addition to having to win the remaining two matches, Barcelona must also depend on Munich and Plzen to beat Inter. Barcelona hopes will not go according to plan, Inter will not succumb easily as they also want to go to the last 16.
If Barcelona fail to progress to the last 16, they have failed to get out of the group stage twice in a row and Barcelona will be relegated to the Europa League for the second time.

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I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Yes they are playing better but they are still below other good playing teams. I think it's because they haven't stabilized yet because they've just woken up from a bad season. They have just built a team and it is still behind other teams who were able to build a good squad first. Even if they have to lose the Champions League this season, they have to do better in La Liga. But they have just lost to their rivals in the el clasico and that makes things even more difficult. In the Europa League the competition will certainly be lighter, I hope they can take advantage of this momentum.

As a result, they are no longer as powerful as they once were. They are still a young team, which explains their current situation. Barcelona haven't stabilised yet and progressing with such a situation is difficult. Barca fans may feel uncertain about this team, especially if they look at Barca back-line. There is a need for enough time, which will lead to the resurrection of this team. It would have been better if Barcelona had better tactical and staff structures in place to ensure the best performance from its players.

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I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Passing and passing then nothing happened. This team is always focusing with ball possession until it was forget making goal to win the game. I don't know how this team is still using this old style. It doens't even matter how bad you are playing the game as long as you are making goals and then you win. You can make thousands of passing to get ball possession and with zero goal you will be lose. Barcelona seems wanna use this strategy even more. This strategy is too old.
People already familiar with it.

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Chelsea must win another match and it will go to the last 16. AC milan needs to work even harder than before caused by losing two times against chelsea has been giving a huge pressure for ac milan. That proves that if chelsea has the biggest chance to go the next stage. Chelsea may able to beat zagreb and salzburg with the current performance from the club. Im sure about this. It's caused by chelsea was always showing incredible performance during EPL.
I hope that chelsea will be winning the rest of matches easily without any problem.

We do have a problem, Reece James is injured. Our right wing back is very weak as we don't have a man to man type of player to take care of things as James usually does. I think there has been reports that he'll be out for 8 weeks which might likely make him miss the world cup. It seems Sterling was put to play in that position in our last match and he had zero impact on the game. Loftus-Cheek could play that wing same as Azpilicueta but neither of them can be relied on like James due to his all round game.

Both teams aren't much of a threat as we should be winning them without much challenge but we'll see how the squad plays in the coming weeks. I'm predicting a win as well but it won't be an easy ones. The good thing is our defense and keeper has been gaining some confidence due to the impressive clean sheet they have been on so I hope that continue as we play both champions league game.

I think Chelsea's performance is pretty good but they need to do better when they play against big teams. However, AC Milan need to work harder to strengthen their squad if they want to do well in the Champions League.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on October 16, 2022, 03:09:50 PM

Looking at the current conditions of the groups, I can say that the most exciting and competitive ones are Group D and E.

In Group D, I really appreciate Marseille's incredible comeback. They started with two losses but they still didn't give up on anything. They defeated Sporting two times and took the second place. Marseille are already having a great season in the Ligue 1 and it looks like they can make it to next round here also. But the point difference between the 1st and last is only three. Therefore the balances can be upset even by only one week. I think that Tottenham will finish as the leader and Marseille will follow them.

It's hard to predict the possibilities who is the teams will qualify in group D because so far 3 teams Tottenham, Sporting CP and Marseille had equal chances especially their difference points is not too far and maybe all of it will be determined on week 5 but Tottenham had easy schedule because as a host they will fight against Sporting CP and if they can win probably their chances is wide open compared to other teams but for Marseille playing for away match against Frankfurt is really big challenge for them because Frankfurt in the good shape after crushed Leverkusen at their domestic league but if Marseille can win the match they almost certain to qualify

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I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Yes they are playing better but they are still below other good playing teams. I think it's because they haven't stabilized yet because they've just woken up from a bad season. They have just built a team and it is still behind other teams who were able to build a good squad first. Even if they have to lose the Champions League this season, they have to do better in La Liga. But they have just lost to their rivals in the el clasico and that makes things even more difficult. In the Europa League the competition will certainly be lighter, I hope they can take advantage of this momentum.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 17, 2022, 03:00:19 AM

The problem is in the actual performance.
For Chelsea this is still possible and the chances are still very big but for Milan or Salzburg it is definitely a little different. Even though Milan are still favored because they have a good squad in terms of players, their performance is still not very reliable, not to mention we already know that Salzburg is one of the clubs with a pretty good defense in my opinion.

You are right. but for Chelsea it is the biggest chance of qualifying. even I'm pretty sure that Chelsea will qualify easily. because of course we can see the performance of chelsea which is now getting better after they got a new coach, namely Graham potter. But I doubt Salzburg if they can get the points in the next game. because the next match Salzburg will be against Chelsea and Milan. and I think the chances of winning are still held by Chelsea and Milan. in group E I think Chelsea and Milan have more chances to qualify. because Milan's performance is now starting to improve. and in Serie A we can see Milan starting to be consistent in every game. but that's just my prediction. because the reality is always a lot of surprises that happen. and opportunities in Group E are still open to all teams. but based on Performance I see Chelsea and Milan the most likely to qualify.

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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition

I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Barcelona is not playing so well. How can you call that barcelona was playing good while it was loosing 2 goals in the first half? That proves that if barcelona's team is not performing so well. Lewandowski can do nothing against world class defenders that played in real madrid.
People were seeing barcelona as an overrated team while they forgot if xavi never make this team come back to the its golden era again. So many barcelona fans are blaming xavi for this lol. Even my friends were also blaming him for the lose of barcelona.
It seems like that more and more barcelona players wanna leave from the club as soon as possible. I hope that de jong can consider moving back again to the EPL caused by that's the right place for him.

Honestly, Xavi did his best with this lineup. Can't really put too much hope and bet on the dead horse Lewandowski anymore. Barcelona reached the peak of what it could do. Any Barcelona fan needs to understand that. In the game with Real Madrid where Barcelona had a higher amount of time for ball possession, they still lost. They can't shoot a decent goal and Lewandowski can't just carry the offensive line up any further. Barcelona will need a massive lineup overhaul.

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Quote from: makishart on October 16, 2022, 06:03:39 PM

Chelsea must win another match and it will go to the last 16. AC milan needs to work even harder than before caused by losing two times against chelsea has been giving a huge pressure for ac milan. That proves that if chelsea has the biggest chance to go the next stage. Chelsea may able to beat zagreb and salzburg with the current performance from the club. Im sure about this. It's caused by chelsea was always showing incredible performance during EPL.
I hope that chelsea will be winning the rest of matches easily without any problem.

We do have a problem, Reece James is injured. Our right wing back is very weak as we don't have a man to man type of player to take care of things as James usually does. I think there has been reports that he'll be out for 8 weeks which might likely make him miss the world cup. It seems Sterling was put to play in that position in our last match and he had zero impact on the game. Loftus-Cheek could play that wing same as Azpilicueta but neither of them can be relied on like James due to his all round game.

Both teams aren't much of a threat as we should be winning them without much challenge but we'll see how the squad plays in the coming weeks. I'm predicting a win as well but it won't be an easy ones. The good thing is our defense and keeper has been gaining some confidence due to the impressive clean sheet they have been on so I hope that continue as we play both champions league game.

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In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.

Why should it be difficult to predict who will qualify for the next round after seeing the four matches they have played? Even though in the four matches that have happened, you can take a few clear references so that you can find out who will have a greater chance and the possibility to qualify for the next round. Although AC Milan and Dinamo Zagreb also still have a chance if they can both get a win in the two remaining matches in this group stage.

The problem is in the actual performance.
For Chelsea this is still possible and the chances are still very big but for Milan or Salzburg it is definitely a little different. Even though Milan are still favored because they have a good squad in terms of players, their performance is still not very reliable, not to mention we already know that Salzburg is one of the clubs with a pretty good defense in my opinion.

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I still see some people being hopeful about Barcelona to make it to next round. It is almost impossible truthfully. Grin

They need a miracle for Inter to lose points against Plzen. Because Plzen have no goal left in the Champions League at this point. It is like there is no way they are stealing any point from Inter in an away match which they couldn't do in their home match. It is better to be realistic as a result. Otherwise I wouldn't like to see a big team like Barcelona in the Europa League of course.

Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Milan and Juventus are other teams that have surprised me so far with their performances. Juventus and Ajax are already close to the Europa League now but there is still hope for the other two.

I don't think, there will be hope for Barcelona to make it next round because they really missed their opportunity yesterday that made Real Madrid to defeated them 3-1. Yesterday match showed that Barcelona need to go and prepare well against other competitions because their performance in this la Liga league competition was not encouraging, because many people predicted for the favour of Barcelona to win Real Madrid with many goals but Real Madrid defenders made the match difficult for Barcelona talented strikers not to achieve many goals from the match.

You are absolutely right mate. actually I really hope Barcelona can qualify. although the hope is indeed almost impossible. but yesterday I was still hopeful. But when you see the El Clasico match and Barcelona lose. I now have to accept that with Barcelona's current performance, it seems that it is no longer possible for Barcelona to qualify. but in the match against Real Madrid yesterday, actually Barcelona had more control of the game. but unfortunately barcelona is not good at maximizing the opportunities they get. Barcelona can still be stronger even if it takes time. but in the Champions League Barcelona doesn't have much time.

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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition

I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Barcelona is not playing so well. How can you call that barcelona was playing good while it was loosing 2 goals in the first half? That proves that if barcelona's team is not performing so well. Lewandowski can do nothing against world class defenders that played in real madrid.
People were seeing barcelona as an overrated team while they forgot if xavi never make this team come back to the its golden era again. So many barcelona fans are blaming xavi for this lol. Even my friends were also blaming him for the lose of barcelona.
It seems like that more and more barcelona players wanna leave from the club as soon as possible. I hope that de jong can consider moving back again to the EPL caused by that's the right place for him.

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I still see some people being hopeful about Barcelona to make it to next round. It is almost impossible truthfully. Grin

They need a miracle for Inter to lose points against Plzen. Because Plzen have no goal left in the Champions League at this point. It is like there is no way they are stealing any point from Inter in an away match which they couldn't do in their home match. It is better to be realistic as a result. Otherwise I wouldn't like to see a big team like Barcelona in the Europa League of course.

Ajax, Atletico Madrid, Milan and Juventus are other teams that have surprised me so far with their performances. Juventus and Ajax are already close to the Europa League now but there is still hope for the other two.

I don't think, there will be hope for Barcelona to make it next round because they really missed their opportunity yesterday that made Real Madrid to defeated them 3-1. Yesterday match showed that Barcelona need to go and prepare well against other competitions because their performance in this competition is not encouraging, because many people predicted for the favour of Barcelona to win Real Madrid with many goals but Real Madrid defenders made the match difficult for Barcelona talented strikers not to achieve many goals from the match.

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In fact, there is a big difference between Barcelona in the Champions League and La Liga. I think one of the reasons is that La Liga teams are relatively far behind Barcelona. Barcelona are beating them fearlessly. But Barca could not be ready for the Champions League yet. The upcoming match against Real Madrid will show how successful Barca is in La Liga.

The debate on Barcelona's performance in the Spanish League is not in this topic. But I think that as things are, if they lose against Real Madrid, and they don't manage to continue in the Champions League (very likely), they will have a very similar season to the previous one.

If they finally get to win Real Madrid it'll mean a lot to Barca
Cause they have finally realized that they can't qualify to the next round in the Champions League
Playing Europa league has never been the option from the very beginning how painful it is to see Lewandoski in the Europa League Competition

I think Barcelona have played very well but they are far behind. We know Barcelona play very well but they haven't done anything good. So I think Barcelona can't go far. We have seen Barcelona play very badly in some matches.

Barcelona's game is better. but indeed, their opponent had anticipated the right strategy to counter Xavi's tactics.
although their performance in the UCL has not been good, but Xavi has shown a Barcelona game that has returned. we've seen Barcelona play badly. last season, in La Liga.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 16, 2022, 03:38:43 PM

In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.

Why should it be difficult to predict who will qualify for the next round after seeing the four matches they have played? Even though in the four matches that have happened, you can take a few clear references so that you can find out who will have a greater chance and the possibility to qualify for the next round. Although AC Milan and Dinamo Zagreb also still have a chance if they can both get a win in the two remaining matches in this group stage.

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