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Quote from: naira on September 08, 2022, 06:32:05 AM

The Champions League is an event that is difficult to predict, plus competing clubs that are relatively unbalanced with English clubs, it will be very feasible to consider the potential they have. From Liverpool's inaugural defeat, maybe the trophy scheme will be difficult to predict, not even sure if Liverpool can qualify easily in the group phase.

The scheme will still be the same as the top clubs that enter the Knock Out and some dark horses that roam freely.
It's interesting to see Liverpool now with the condition of the players who are actually very good, they even find it very difficult to score goals, not only in the EPL but it seems that the domino effect of their poor performance in the EPL to the Champions League.
If Klopp still can't give his best I think they should forget about the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: zaki12 on September 08, 2022, 03:05:07 AM

I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!

Not many people manage to perform like this so fast after transferring to barcelona. And there were negative reports about him in the newspapers for a very long time. That he continues to do so now is very strong. 1 game and 3 goals in the Champions League, that starts sensationally. Possibly he can break the record of Christiano Ronaldo (2013/2014) with 17 goals. In 2019/20 Lewandowski made with FC Bayern Munich 15 goals in one CL Season.

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Quote from: hahay on September 07, 2022, 06:59:36 PM

The two teams from the Premier League that completely destroyed my multi bet were Chelsea who ultimately sacked Tuchel, next is Liverpool and whether Liverpool will sack Klopp because Liverpool's defeat was very big with 4-1.

Even if you ask me then I'm also pretty sure Liverpool and Chelsea deserve you to consider winning and being picked in your multi bet. But in reality they lost shockingly after being favorited to win, that must be something that is never fun for you in my opinion.

The Champions League is an event that is difficult to predict, plus competing clubs that are relatively unbalanced with English clubs, it will be very feasible to consider the potential they have. From Liverpool's inaugural defeat, maybe the trophy scheme will be difficult to predict, not even sure if Liverpool can qualify easily in the group phase.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 08, 2022, 04:36:15 AM

What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.

I don't think the two are the same thing. Klopp will not be sent from this team, if he wants to go, he will go himself. Klopp has huge credit. Even if Liverpool haven't had any success this season, they won't be able to fire Klopp. Without Klopp, Liverpool wouldn't have achieved any of their recent successes.
The score in the Napoli match wasn't surprising to me. Napoli played really well in the game and they made every minute of the game feel like they were going to win the game. Liverpool still have a chance to come out of this group in second place. They shouldn't be negative from the first game.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 08, 2022, 04:36:15 AM

What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.

We are different from the others. We really appreciate what Jurgen Klopp has done for the club. A difficult job has been well done by Klopp to make history at Anfield in the era of modern football.
Maybe the principle held by the club regarding Liverpool's current condition is that we are not always on top.

The problems experienced by Liverpool at the beginning of this season were only about players who suffered a lot of injuries, although some said the effect of selling Sadio Mane. For me it's not a big factor in terms of the results we've received in some games.
We can see in the next few matches that there will be changes to the results that will be received.

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Quote from: hahay on September 07, 2022, 06:59:36 PM

The two teams from the Premier League that completely destroyed my multi bet were Chelsea who ultimately sacked Tuchel, next is Liverpool and whether Liverpool will sack Klopp because Liverpool's defeat was very big with 4-1.

Even if you ask me then I'm also pretty sure Liverpool and Chelsea deserve you to consider winning and being picked in your multi bet. But in reality they lost shockingly after being favorited to win, that must be something that is never fun for you in my opinion.

Even though Chelsea are no longer patient enough to give Tuchel time before sacking him, then I don't think Klopp will have the same fate as Tuchel. Klopp is different with because his track record has given Liverpool a lot, it is the worst thing when a team has to sack him just because he has not performed well in the first few match. Klopp will get something different from Liverpool than Tuchel at Chelsea.

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What do you think? Will Klopp be also sacked just as it happened to Tuchel?

If they continue to get results like this his time here might be running out as well. Liverpool were horrible at defending against Napoli yesterday. I don't remember the last time I saw Joe Gomez performing this much poorly. He played a big role in some goals conceded. van Dijk was also not very good. The penalty Osimhen missed was his fault but at least he made up for it later by preventing an absolute goal chance. They weren't the only players at fault of course. The team as a whole need to improve their defending. If you can't score many goals then you must be solid at defending.

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I don't know what happend to Liverpool that they playing such as mediocre team today and their defense were playing so bad and easy to explored by Napoli players besides that the midfielder players Milner, Fabinho and Elliot looks lost their creativity and forward line also had deadlock because they seems having trouble to scoring goals and this is not good to starting this season and as champion candidate Klopp have to improved Liverpool performance because next opponent is Ajax which is can be categorized as strong team too on group A

Disappointing results that we saw Liverpool were like bending in this match with Napoli despite having the ball but their defense was poor I think at 4-1 it was the carelessness of some defenders who couldn't hold on to what they could it's really surprising.
Even though this is only the first phase Liverpool still have a second chance to improve in the champions league and Klopp should be able to catch up from this poor fall and defeat.

Liverpool defeat was quite embarrassing because statistically Liverpool were actually superior to Napoli, Liverpool poor defense plus Liverpool lack of sharp attacks made Napoli managed to destroy Liverpool with a big score, throughout the match I saw that Liverpool defenders were very difficult to keep and blocked the movements of Victor Osimhen and Giovanni Simeone, so makes it easy for Napoli forwards to score goals, apart from Liverpool poor defense, their midfield also seems to be quite chaotic without being able to create creativity for Liverpool forwards, Liverpool midfielders find it difficult to develop because due to being heavily guarded by Napoli and that is reason the lack of assists for Liverpool attackers in that match, seeing Liverpool game today seems difficult for them to get out of the group phase especially when their have to face Ajax in the second match of the champions league.

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Quote from: zaki12 on September 08, 2022, 03:05:07 AM

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While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!

The huge amount of money that Barcelona spent to sign Lewandowski was not in vain, now Barcelona are enjoying the return of their investment in Lewandowski thanks to the goals that Lewandowski continues to create. At the age of 34, Lewandowski is still able to perform brilliantly. The three goals he scored against Viktoria Plzen made him the player to score his first hat-trick in the UCL and also his first hat-trick while wearing the Barcelona jersey in an official match.
Currently the quality of Barcelona front line is very good, Xavi can rely on Dembele, Lewandowski and Raphinha as a trio to fill the main squad. In addition to the three names above, Barcelona also has very good forwards, Ferran Torres, Ansu Fati and Depay can also be relied on by Xavi. Thanks to the arrival of several new players in the transfer market, Barcelona's appearance is much more improved than last season.

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I'm starting to be really worried about Liverpool's performances. It's not just that we're losing and making silly defensive mistakes, it's like the energy isn't there to perform at the highest level.

I know we had an extremely gruesome season last year - we played all available games. The break was also shorter due to World Cup. We can find many excuses, but whatever they are - we won't do anything this season unless we fix them.

Individual performances aside - we're not running enough as a team, we're losing second balls all over the pitch and we simply don't have players running into open spaces when in possession. We look deflated and demoralized.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 07, 2022, 06:04:48 PM

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Hehe didn't Chelsea kinda panicked when they sacked Tuchel after they lost? I like the guy and I thought he just needed a bit more time with the "new" squad to turn things around again.....

I can agree with you that Tuchel doesn't deserve the sack, atleast not at this time, because it is too early compared to his success in the club. The club though have changed administration seems to have forgotten too fast how Tuchel changed the team.
But what I will not agree with you is that Tuchel needed time to understand the NEW team. Was there really a new team? Nò. All the new players that joined the club were what Tuchel requested for. So, Chelsea bought him players of his choice and doesn't need a whole season to understand his new defence line.

That's still a new team regardless if he requested them or not. It's one thing to scout them and it's another how they work with everyone on the pitch. Another thing is the new acquisitions also needs to get acquainted with their new teammates.

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In all I really thought that England will have an excellent champions league outing this year, but Liverpool and Chelsea are making me think otherwise after this first match.

I expected Chelsea to struggle early but not Liverpool. It's looking like only one English team will reach at least the semi-finals this season and that's Man City. No offense to Tottenham.

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Quote from: zaki12 on September 08, 2022, 03:05:07 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2022, 12:13:22 AM

While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!

Lewandowski has proven that age is not an obstacle to continue to achieve achievements and we can see how great Lewandowski performance last night when he beat Plazen 5-1, a hat trick created by Lewandowski managed to make him the tempory top scorer in the Champions League this season, what you say is true, Barcelona were lucky enough to get Lewandowski after they struggled to find the right replacement after losing Messi, I think Barcelona with Lewandowski will again be a title challenger in both the league and in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: bering on September 07, 2022, 11:07:53 PM

I don't know what happend to Liverpool that they playing such as mediocre team today and their defense were playing so bad and easy to explored by Napoli players besides that the midfielder players Milner, Fabinho and Elliot looks lost their creativity and forward line also had deadlock because they seems having trouble to scoring goals and this is not good to starting this season and as champion candidate Klopp have to improved Liverpool performance because next opponent is Ajax which is can be categorized as strong team too on group A

Disappointing results that we saw Liverpool were like bending in this match with Napoli despite having the ball but their defense was poor I think at 4-1 it was the carelessness of some defenders who couldn't hold on to what they could it's really surprising.
Even though this is only the first phase Liverpool still have a second chance to improve in the champions league and Klopp should be able to catch up from this poor fall and defeat.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2022, 12:13:22 AM

While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

I'm not even surprised that Lewandowski is the first person to get a hat-trick in the UCL this season. Lewandowski has been the best footballer in the world for several years! He is a magic player! He is one of the greatest players Barcelona have had in the club's history! Without him, Barcelona would be in trouble! Thanks to Lewandowski, Barcelona played well in attack!

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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2022, 12:51:13 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2022, 12:13:22 AM

While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

The presence of lewandowski has instantly turn Barcelona to one of the favourite to lift the trophy this season,he is so world class, his finishing is precise, I must admit xavi Hernandez has be giving a good team to build something and he deserves it because he did something great when he replaced Koeman and at that team Barcelona are in shambles and have been eliminated from the champions League and about not qualifying for Europe and he came and prove that with the right squad like this he can do something great.

Yes that's true, So if Dembele continues to do well with Lewandowski he will score a lot of goals. These two are by far the best in this game. I'm usually enthusiastic about Dembele. After being called a first-person player in the last game, he really did everything for his teammates. He's definitely changed a lot under Xavi and I hope he stays injury free this time too. And there's nothing to say about Lewandowski. For me he is the best striker in the world.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 07, 2022, 09:32:13 PM

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The scores is still thrilling as I look at it. Normally, you see Liverpool scoring that much goal against another team and not them be the team that is being humiliated as seen today. Napoli where a whole lot of another story and they didn't live Liverpool much chance for an equalizer
So far, it seems Manchester City is the only EPL team that have shown some promising future in the league as Chelsea and Liverpool have proven to be a disappointment in there first game. I hope to see better in there prospective games.

Liverpool looked bad and had to swallow the bitter pill against Napoli, Liverpool were really pressured by Napoli and were not given the opportunity to develop the game. some opportunities can not be maximized by the Red. their defense looks very fragile in this match as well as the midfielders who lack creativity, I'm not surprised Liverpool will lose this match considering that Klopp's squad did not play well at the start of the domestic league season, but what surprised us was the score 4 - 1.
yes so far only manchester city is more promising, but i hope jurgen klopp can improve the performance of the red and not have the same fate as thomas tuchel.

The outcome of Liverpool game was actually looking decisive for me because looking at their performance in premier league, it was quite difficult for them to be able to defeat Napoli. The Italian side comfortably sit at the second spot in the Serie A with 13 points whereas Liverpool are struggling at 7th place.
Napoli played them like they were some kind of new team who were having their first taste of champions league and it would have been 5-1 had Osimehn not lost his penalty. Interesting first leg for Napoli, I believe the second leg will be better.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 08, 2022, 01:53:45 AM

If failure has a name in soccer for this 2022/23 season both in Premier League and Champions League it is called Liverpool.Most probably Mane was being a great player that consisted in many Liverpool success stories but Liverpool believed more in Salah than him so he departed to Bayern Munchen where he scored a great goal against Inter yesterday.Now Salah is not delivering and not performing,I think this year Liverpool will fail to do anything good both in the Champions League and Premier League.

It seems Klopp and Liverpool are going to the end of a great successful cycle. New players need time to adapt better or they are just worse than the successful generation of players Liverpool have in past 7 years. Furthermore, players from the successful generation are degrading in performance. Especially Van Dijk and their defenders. Mo Salah did not play well so far but I think he will come back. I don't worry about Mo Salah but the departure of Mane makes things worse in general.

Mane not only contributes goals and assists but also space for other mates to play and beat opponent's defense. Now in Liverpool, they are struggling to find a player to replace this role of Mane.

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Quote from: X-ray on September 08, 2022, 01:48:15 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2022, 12:13:22 AM

While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

Napoli was still on fire and from what you have said above if you are still underestimating napoli. I would not be surprised that if napoli will make another team in its group to lose against it. Napoli is a good team for now. It can scorer so many goals against liverpool. Liverpool's performance is really bad last night. Anything can happen in the champion's league. I think that anyone aware if some team have been giving their best performance against the superior team. I do like how italian club was giving its best performance.

If failure has a name in soccer for this 2022/23 season both in Premier League and Champions League it is called Liverpool.Most probably Mane was being a great player that consisted in many Liverpool success stories but Liverpool believed more in Salah than him so he departed to Bayern Munchen where he scored a great goal against Inter yesterday.Now Salah is not delivering and not performing,I think this year Liverpool will fail to do anything good both in the Champions League and Premier League.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2022, 12:13:22 AM

While Barcelona beat Viktoria Plzen 5-1 yesterday, Robert Lewandowski became the star of the match with 3 goals. Lewandowski made history as the first player to score a hat-trick in UCL with 3 different teams. 34 years old but tireless. an incredible player. There was also the surprise of the night. Napoli beat Liverpool 4-1. Actually, Napoli can beat them, of course, but I didn't think they would score that many goals.

Napoli was still on fire and from what you have said above if you are still underestimating napoli. I would not be surprised that if napoli will make another team in its group to lose against it. Napoli is a good team for now. It can scorer so many goals against liverpool. Liverpool's performance is really bad last night. Anything can happen in the champion's league. I think that anyone aware if some team have been giving their best performance against the superior team. I do like how italian club was giving its best performance.

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Quote from: Davian144 on September 07, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

In such a short time I think Chelsea will be a little difficult to get a new coach from now on because so far there has been no news about it other than the news of Thomas Tuchel's sacking. And I even imagine that the management of the Chelsea club is too harsh to have to sack Thomas Tuchel at this time, even though Chelsea also need a new coach after sacking Thomas Tuchel at this time.

Graham Potter (GP), who is now Brighton's main coach, has been linked with filling the vacant Chelsea coach left by Thomas Tuchel. Chelsea club management feels Potter fits perfectly with Todd Boehly's plans in carrying out his long-term project at Chelsea.
Graham Potter's stats as a football coach are pretty good during his time as Brighton's tactician since May 2019.

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