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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 03:49:16 AM

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Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

What does it even mean when he says that Dortmund are big comedians? Didn't he find the right word is that what he really meant to say? Cheesy

The group isn't easy for any of the teams, but I think Dortmund is a little bit behind. In my opinion there is no big favorite, and no big outsider. The thing is that every team can take way points from any other team in that group. It is not like there is this one big favorite who will win the 6 games most likely. I expect a very close group with lots of excitement until the last match.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on August 31, 2023, 05:55:30 PM

I also thought the same but the fact that Newcastle doesn’t have any prior experience of the champions league competition makes me doubt their qualification out of the group stage. Just like you’ve analyzed each team, any team can fumble and give Newcastle a breakthrough to the next round. This won’t still be easy though, because every team comes with a lot of preparations, zeal and have trained hard to win each of the matches and qualify for the next round. The competition in that group is going to be fierce and interesting to watch.

It's been a long time since last time of newcastle play in the UCL. It's an enormous challenge for howe to make sure newcastle will compete with another strong team in this group. People were calling this group as the most difficult group this season.
It seemed to me all the clubs have the same chances to be qualified for the play off. Experience matter but mentality from the club is the key factor to be qualified to go to the play off.
This group will always have hard game. Anyteam placed in this group are strong teams.

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I also thought the same but the fact that Newcastle doesn’t have any prior experience of the champions league competition makes me doubt their qualification out of the group stage. Just like you’ve analyzed each team, any team can fumble and give Newcastle a breakthrough to the next round. This won’t still be easy though, because every team comes with a lot of preparations, zeal and have trained hard to win each of the matches and qualify for the next round. The competition in that group is going to be fierce and interesting to watch.

For now, I think that the opportunities they have are quite equal because several teams lost their best players this season, such as PSG, who lost Messi and Neymar, so their strength is still not stable enough recently. Apart from that for Dortmund they were also unstable in the bundesliga at the start of this season and also they lost Bellingham in this transfer window. So Newcastle United can try hard to exploit the weaknesses of their opponents in the Champions League this season.

But for AC Milan it seems like they were able to improve their best strength at the start of the season so that they have a pretty good advantage over their strength in the Champions League this season. Moreover, Pulisic presence makes a big difference to their strength on the front lines.

First of all, I do not think that Newcastle United will actually be able to win the Champions League. That is even if they reach the finals. Now if you talk about how far they are going to go in the Champions League, that is another discussion. I personally think that they definitely have the capability to reach the semifinals of the Champions League. After all, they are improving quite quickly. But I am quite confident that they are not going to win the Champions League title.

But at the same time, I am pretty confident that Newcastle United has a better chance and will also go further in the competition compared to AC Milan. I just don’t think that AC Milan is going to be consistent. My expectation from AC Milan is for them to be as inconsistent as they generally are.

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Maybe Newcastle came from the last pot to Group F but they can't be underestimated even a bit. Because the progress they have made recently is really big. Maybe they haven't been a regular in the Champions League for many years. But I don't still expect them to have big difficulties in adapting to the tournament.

Even against PSG they can stay solid. In England at least. But PSG are really not very consistent these days. This makes me think about different scenarios for the group but let's see. There are still many weeks until the games start.

I don't really see Newcastle to be a team that will struggle in the Champions league game because they have done lots of works in making their squad good for the season. Since last season PSG have not been performing so well in their games, with what Newcastle have so far this season they will be problem to PSG because they are no more just like a struggling teams. Newcastle are among one of the tough teams in premier league, so therefore champions league won't be a big deal for them.

The problem is that this is the first time after a long time they are not in the Champions League because the last time they were in the big Champions League competition was the 2002/2003 season which means that it has been 2 decades that they have missed this big competition.
Now they are in a group that can indeed be said to be difficult because their opponents are big clubs subscribed to the Champions League even 3 clubs (PSG, Milan and Dortmund) last season all qualified for the knock out phase.
This is a big challenge for them in the first season but in this case their chance is still there for now and if their performance is good then they also still have the potential to qualify from the group phase this season.

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This season, Real Madrid seems to have a smooth road to qualify for the round of 16 even though Napoli can really be a threat to reduce points gain in the group stage. I am optimistic that Real Madrid will lead the standings despite facing a difficult opponent, but it is not a big challenge. I'm not looking down on Braga and Union Berlin, but I'm sure these two teams are not suitable opponents for Real Madrid let alone to make our plans fail this season.

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Newcastle is unlucky because they are into hell group with Dortmund, AC Milan and PSG at group F and i know it's too early to says they will not qualified but their opponents mostly is strong teams at their domestic league and but they can't do anything because for drawing pot Newcastle into pot 4 which is mediocre status
But other Premier League team Arsenal looks into easy group because their opponent is Sevilla, PSV and Lens and on the paper Arsenal should be able to overcomes them and my prediction for group B is i think Arsenal will be qualified especially one of their opponent Sevilla currently is not in the good shape because of their internal issues
Manchester United also had good opportunity to qualified and the most strongest team into group A is Bayern Munich but i think they can able to overcomes Galatasaray and Copenhagen so in my opinion Manchester United most likely will be qualified to the next stage and possibly will finish at runner up position under Bayern Munich

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 03:49:16 AM

Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 03:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

I have always said before now that Newcastle United even though they are new to the Champions League, they will not fail to qualify from the group stage. I have said this and maintained it for a very long time, but after yesterday that I saw the Champions League draw, I began to withdraw my statement.
The people in that group are all well experienced in the Champions League matters, and they have good players presently. It will be very difficult for Newcastle to qualify from that group because they are also playing their local league. That group is not an easy one for Newcastle to be very honest with you.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 31, 2023, 07:37:38 PM

Gvardiol will be facing his former club again. What an interesting group to watch. Manchester city had a very good record against leipzig and im sure city will become the one who got perfect result in the group stage.
While Manchester City will be without some of its crucial players, it is still difficult to imagine Leipzig coming out on top. City will be dominating the league like the previous season again.
It's time for city to show the true power of strongest club in the world right now.

The good thing is city and leipzig have bigger chance to be qualified for play off. Im not really familiar with the rest of club int he group G.
I know a little about young boyz but i never heard that crvena was able qualified for the UCL as well.

On papers many things are looking easy with reality is mostly different from these predictions and views about teams right now we are just talking and having nothing to do with how things will be happened on ground few groups are looking easier with just one or two looking difficult but many times while we have end of the group stage many results give us shock because different of one or two points create good unpredictable situations and help weak clubs to go through.

After watching draws and having teams I am also predicting about few teams, but now I have to wait for the December about real results which will give better view no doubt from this group we will have Manchester City and RB Leipzig because of quality difference but during games upsets can also create good mess-up for them.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 03:49:16 AM

Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 03:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

everything will be proven when the game starts. and the better-prepared team will get the chance to win. Newcastle is indeed a team that has shown big changes in recent years. they appear stronger. but meeting strong European teams requires a competitive mentality. not just skill and consistency like playing in the League.
I hope Newcastle also have the chance to show their quality in the group stage. maybe it won't be easy, but I hope they show their best.

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Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 03:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

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Quote from: MK-74 on August 31, 2023, 06:01:10 PM

The lots were drawn and the groups were determined. I think the most difficult group is F. (PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Ac Milan, Newcastle United)

Galatasaray's group is also a difficult group, Bayer Munich, Manchester United and Copenhagen. I think we can be 3rd best in this group.

Easiest group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Galatasaray's group is one of the most difficult groups I have seen in a long time. They need a miracle to get to the top of this group. They will not have a chance against Bayern, they have to win the Copenhagen match.
If they can fight a little against Manchester United they might have a chance but to be honest they won't have much of a chance. It will be nice for the fans that they will be playing against pretty good teams

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I think the PSG team is in great danger. Because in comparison, the rest of the teams in this group are quite strong. The rest of the teams will fight hard with the PSG team. PSG team will be under great pressure.

PSG are in the toughest group this season where Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle are teams that are really good enough to be expected to be able to provide the best competition. Last season Milan made it to the semi-finals, while Dortmund and PSG failed earlier, but this is a new season for Newcastle who have just proven their quality in the Premier League.

I consider PSG and Milan to qualify for the last 16, while Newcastle will probably drop into the Europa League. Meanwhile, I will not completely underestimate Dortmund, who are basically convincing enough to lock up a spot in the last 16 phase. But I think Luis Enrique and Stefano Pioli look better prepared to face this challenge.

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Newcastle United get in a toughest group but it is more than a nightmare for them. They did not expect to be in such group. PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle United will have to beat each other to get only two tickets to go next.

That group is filled with inconsistent clubs. PSG can fumble anything in this life. They're the biggest team in the group in terms of squad but you can't even guarantee that they'll qualify.
Dortmund is a team that is known for its bottling. They may end up not qualifying for the Europa even. This is something they have done time and again.
We do not know the kind of form Milan would come with this season but even in their best form, they're not unbeatable.
Newcastle stands a lot of chances in that group but they would have to fight tooth and nails to qualify

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on August 31, 2023, 12:58:00 PM

borussia dortmund got a super tough group. AC Milan,Paris Saint-Germain and Newcastle United FC .
but if you want to get through to the next round you have to beat all the teams . here are the complete groups

source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/

Naples didn't go very well with luck. He's in the same group as Real Madrid while it went very well at Inter, who knows if he'll be able to take advantage of this luck.
Italian teams can make it through to the group stage.
Even Barcelona is not going badly for him, a simple group after all.

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borussia dortmund got a super tough group. AC Milan,Paris Saint-Germain and Newcastle United FC .
but if you want to get through to the next round you have to beat all the teams . here are the complete groups

source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/

I really like how they set up this group stage. It will be challenging, but in some groups, like groups A, B, and G, I don't think they will encounter any difficulties. In group A, Manchester United won't encounter any difficulties without Bayern Munich, as the other teams there, in my opinion, cannot beat Manchester United unless Manchester United is not serious. and in group B as well The only strong team I am aware of that can compete successfully in the group is Arsenal. I believe that nothing can stop Manchester United, Arsenal, and Manchester City from making it out of the group stage, and Manchester City is also the team in group G that can play well.

The remaining groups are all normal, but the two that I believe will be difficult are groups c and f. Group c is made up of Real Madrid and Napoli, two very strong teams, and I believe that their matches will be difficult. Group f is made up of Psg, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, and it is the most difficult group in this location. Psg and Ac Milan will want to take advantage of their strong opportunity because they are two of the best teams that have ever competed.

All the teams in Group F will be tough opponents as Group FA consists of AC Milan, PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund. Among these four teams, AC Milan and Newcastle are more likely to be ahead in terms of performance. AC Milan started the Serie A well and they are performing well so far topping the points table. On the other hand, even though PSG perform well in League One, we don't see them performing well in the Champions League at all, so I want to put Newcastle forward for the Champions League instead of PSG. If Newcastle can show their best performance in the Champions League then this team will definitely qualify for the next round.

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Maybe Newcastle came from the last pot to Group F but they can't be underestimated even a bit. Because the progress they have made recently is really big. Maybe they haven't been a regular in the Champions League for many years. But I don't still expect them to have big difficulties in adapting to the tournament.

Even against PSG they can stay solid. In England at least. But PSG are really not very consistent these days. This makes me think about different scenarios for the group but let's see. There are still many weeks until the games start.

I don't really see Newcastle to be a team that will struggle in the Champions league game because they have done lots of works in making their squad good for the season. Since last season PSG have not been performing so well in their games, with what Newcastle have so far this season they will be problem to PSG because they are no more just like a struggling teams. Newcastle are among one of the tough teams in premier league, so therefore champions league won't be a big deal for them.

Whereas they are in the Champions League this time for the first time since the 2003/04 season and there will be difficulties for Newcastle because they will meet or against very strong teams from all over Europe and plus Newcastle has currently been drawn into group F which contains the king teams from the French League and the Bundesliga.
Indeed Eddie Howe had said when he was interviewed about the entry of the team he was fostering into Group F and he spoke not to be worried at all instead he would be excited about going through every game against great teams like PSG and Dortmund it's just that beating these two teams is not as easy as it seems imagine and Newcastle have to really prepare in every game.

It looks like Newcastle will not easily round of 16 even though they have several key players who managed to get them into the Champions League.
Moreover in the last match in the Premier League Newcastle had to lose to Liverpool who clearly received a red card in the first half and added that Newcastle had home advantage but they still didn't look that good.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on August 31, 2023, 12:58:00 PM

borussia dortmund got a super tough group. AC Milan,Paris Saint-Germain and Newcastle United FC .
but if you want to get through to the next round you have to beat all the teams . here are the complete groups

source: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/

I really like how they set up this group stage. It will be challenging, but in some groups, like groups A, B, and G, I don't think they will encounter any difficulties. In group A, Manchester United won't encounter any difficulties without Bayern Munich, as the other teams there, in my opinion, cannot beat Manchester United unless Manchester United is not serious. and in group B as well The only strong team I am aware of that can compete successfully in the group is Arsenal. I believe that nothing can stop Manchester United, Arsenal, and Manchester City from making it out of the group stage, and Manchester City is also the team in group G that can play well.

The remaining groups are all normal, but the two that I believe will be difficult are groups c and f. Group c is made up of Real Madrid and Napoli, two very strong teams, and I believe that their matches will be difficult. Group f is made up of Psg, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, and it is the most difficult group in this location. Psg and Ac Milan will want to take advantage of their strong opportunity because they are two of the best teams that have ever competed.

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Group F, PSG and Milan

I have doubts in this group.
Group f for now is the only group that is difficult to predict who will qualify because looking at the condition of the club and how they are in the domestic competition, they are really a very good club now.
PSG is definitely the strongest candidate to qualify but even if that's the case seeing them in the first few games in Ligue 1 it's still not really a sure thing.
On the other hand, Newcastle, Dortmund and Milan I think their quality is quite balanced now. Although Newcastle is a new club to the Champions League but looking at last season's performance and the strength of their money backed by Seikh it makes them strong now so I think for this club it is complicated in saying who will qualify from the group phase.

Newcastle are in the toughest group and of the three other clubs in their group, it is Newcastle who are most doubtful about qualifying, and it seems that in this group the competition will only be between PSG, Dortmund, and AC Milan, but my prediction will qualify for the knockout phase PSG and AC Milan, as Dortmund are not looking so good after selling their flagship midfielder and Newcastle's lack of experience in this tournament will make it difficult for them to compete, both their squad and their coach are inexperienced here.
Of the four clubs in the English Premier League, Manchester City got an easy draw which is predictable because as the defending champion they will be very favored and Manchester United in Group A is also not a difficult group unless they are not able to play well, but the luckiest is Arsenal because They are only in the same group with Sevilla, who are performing poorly in domestic competition, and PSV and Lens, whose players are not better than Arsenal, but this will be Arsenal's young squad's first experience in the Champions League, as well as Arteta as a coach, but they should not experience any problems. to get past the group stage, because the level of competition is lower than group F where Newcatsle is located.

I think the PSG team is in great danger. Because in comparison, the rest of the teams in this group are quite strong. The rest of the teams will fight hard with the PSG team. PSG team will be under great pressure.

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Quote from: Raflesia on August 31, 2023, 05:39:05 PM

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Group F, PSG and Milan

I have doubts in this group.
Group f for now is the only group that is difficult to predict who will qualify because looking at the condition of the club and how they are in the domestic competition, they are really a very good club now.
PSG is definitely the strongest candidate to qualify but even if that's the case seeing them in the first few games in Ligue 1 it's still not really a sure thing.
On the other hand, Newcastle, Dortmund and Milan I think their quality is quite balanced now. Although Newcastle is a new club to the Champions League but looking at last season's performance and the strength of their money backed by Seikh it makes them strong now so I think for this club it is complicated in saying who will qualify from the group phase.

Newcastle are in the toughest group and of the three other clubs in their group, it is Newcastle who are most doubtful about qualifying, and it seems that in this group the competition will only be between PSG, Dortmund, and AC Milan, but my prediction will qualify for the knockout phase PSG and AC Milan, as Dortmund are not looking so good after selling their flagship midfielder and Newcastle's lack of experience in this tournament will make it difficult for them to compete, both their squad and their coach are inexperienced here.
Of the four clubs in the English Premier League, Manchester City got an easy draw which is predictable because as the defending champion they will be very favored and Manchester United in Group A is also not a difficult group unless they are not able to play well, but the luckiest is Arsenal because They are only in the same group with Sevilla, who are performing poorly in domestic competition, and PSV and Lens, whose players are not better than Arsenal, but this will be Arsenal's young squad's first experience in the Champions League, as well as Arteta as a coach, but they should not experience any problems. to get past the group stage, because the level of competition is lower than group F where Newcatsle is located.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on August 31, 2023, 07:25:12 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 31, 2023, 05:48:12 PM

Maybe Newcastle came from the last pot to Group F but they can't be underestimated even a bit. Because the progress they have made recently is really big. Maybe they haven't been a regular in the Champions League for many years. But I don't still expect them to have big difficulties in adapting to the tournament.

Even against PSG they can stay solid. In England at least. But PSG are really not very consistent these days. This makes me think about different scenarios for the group but let's see. There are still many weeks until the games start.

I don't really see Newcastle to be a team that will struggle in the Champions league game because they have done lots of works in making their squad good for the season. Since last season PSG have not been performing so well in their games, with what Newcastle have so far this season they will be problem to PSG because they are no more just like a struggling teams. Newcastle are among one of the tough teams in premier league, so therefore champions league won't be a big deal for them.

The newcastle has been a thousand times better than the last time this club participated in the UCL. I must admit that if newcastle is now in the same tier as PSG even though this club was rarely winning the trophy due how competitive EPL is. PSG must be careful caused by the club was not performing as good as last season. The club will be playing without messi which was always helping the club last season in UCL. Despite many bad perceptions toward newcastle, eddie howe's club deserves recognition as one of the top clubs in the English Premier League and should not be underestimated. People must see what things are going to be delivered by newcastle in UCL this time. Newcastle can perform even better than psg or even dortmund. Newcastle can give us a surprise.
The instability on the newcastle's performance must be come the main concern for howe.

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