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Quote from: arimamib on August 31, 2023, 06:27:21 PM

Lazio are not very strong in the Champions League this season and they could even be eliminated early if they fail to improve their performance. Lazio are currently slumped at the bottom of the standings after failing to win in the first two matches. For Atletico madrid, they are indeed the strongest in group E if you judge from the quality of their players.

Maybe for me the easiest group is Group H and it's easy to guess which team will win the group. Barcelona, Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Antwerp are the teams in Group H. Of course, Barcelona have easy opponents in the group phase and I think Barcelona can go further in the Champions League this season.

Lazio surely having one of the worst start in Italian league but many times we have completely different results in Champions League with teams can bring good performance in this event because here difference of quality is quite clear and Lazio is having good experience which can help them for having good performance against Feyenoord and Celtic with most chances for the second spot in this group we will have competition between Lazio and Feyenoord which is currently Dutch Champions.

Group A, G, and H are looking relatively easiest because few teams are having no enough sources to face these giants they are still capable for creating upsets and surprises which is famous in Champions League with Group C is also looking settled for the Real Madrid and Napoli because these both are superior in quality from their opponents.

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Quote from: shogun47 on September 01, 2023, 04:20:35 AM

What does it even mean when he says that Dortmund are big comedians? Didn't he find the right word is that what he really meant to say? Cheesy

Perhaps it is because they don’t have consistency in maintaining a squad for a long time, because since I am following football up, Dortmund is one of the teams that will grow good players and sell them off, and again, the reason might be because last season they threw away their chance of winning the league after several chances they got as Bayern is not in serious form since the arrival of Tuchel.

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The group isn't easy for any of the teams, but I think Dortmund is a little bit behind. In my opinion there is no big favorite, and no big outsider. The thing is that every team can take way points from any other team in that group. It is not like there is this one big favorite who will win the 6 games most likely. I expect a very close group with lots of excitement until the last match.

That’s what I am also expecting from the group; this group will be tough from the beginning till the end, as no team in the group should be considered a weak team. I am also rating Newcastle United ahead of Dortmund.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on September 01, 2023, 04:27:43 AM

The Turkish representative Galatasaray have had a really unlucky draw. I mean I think that the best achievement they can get in this group is to finish in 3rd place. Because it is very difficult for them to deal with Bayern Munich and Manchester United. They can only hope for getting a point home but even that isn't easy at all.

Turkish teams need more than luck to finish at the second position. That club was in the same group with bayern and manchester united. It's likely galatasaray will be going down to the europa league caused by the clun unable to pass the group stage.

Quote from: jakdanyel on September 01, 2023, 04:27:43 AM

Maybe they can do well against Manchester United home because the Manchester team haven't started the season very impressively. If they can't work out their problems on defending this can be an important weakness.

I hope so. Galatasaray can pay to see united put some garbage players like meguire and martinez on its lineup. A lot of people knew this team was full of meguire. Galatasaray already bought some players to strengthen its club but it's not enough to beat MU and bayern.
Even though Galatasaray can compete with Manchester United, they fall short when it comes to facing Bayern. Bayern has kane that played for the club.

Bayern may win all of matches in this group. kane is going to help bayern to qualify for play off stage.

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The problem is that this is the first time after a long time they are not in the Champions League because the last time they were in the big Champions League competition was the 2002/2003 season which means that it has been 2 decades that they have missed this big competition.
Now they are in a group that can indeed be said to be difficult because their opponents are big clubs subscribed to the Champions League even 3 clubs (PSG, Milan and Dortmund) last season all qualified for the knock out phase.
This is a big challenge for them in the first season but in this case their chance is still there for now and if their performance is good then they also still have the potential to qualify from the group phase this season.

However, apart from that, I see that Newcastle, PSG, Milan and Dortmund have almost the same quality, so it is possible for these four teams to have the same chance of qualifying from the group phase.
Group F is the most difficult group in my opinion, and of course this will be interesting because of the equal quality of the teams in this group, I never thought that Newcastle would be underestimated by other teams in the UCL this season, what is Newcastle doing in Last season's Premier League certainly became a consideration for all opponents in the UCL to be wary of this Newcastle team.
Personally I'm quite optimistic that Newcastle can escape the grub phase.

This is what makes this group F worth watching because every meeting of each club is all big matches and worth waiting for.
The quality of these 4 clubs can also still be said to be the same even though surely for now PSG is the favorite to qualify but for the rest I think nothing is certain because Milan, Dortmund and even Newcastle still have the same quality and it is also possible to qualify.
I am quite looking forward to their first match later because I think the first match or even the first leg determines their future fate.
Hopefully there will be an interesting match and the 4 clubs in group f have a good performance so that the matches they play are worth watching.

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Quote from: dezoel on September 01, 2023, 03:04:40 AM

After watching draws and having teams I am also predicting about few teams, but now I have to wait for the December about real results which will give better view no doubt from this group we will have Manchester City and RB Leipzig because of quality difference but during games upsets can also create good mess-up for them.

Yes, of course, as the defending champion, seeing that City is in group G, of course Manchester City doesn't look difficult. It seems that Manchester City's path will run smoothly and maybe the ones who will be superior are Manchester City and Leipzig who will qualify for that group, but these UCL matches usually always have surprises. also because they have tried to qualify for UCL tickets so they might play better than playing in the domestic league.

Personally I already have faith and predict Manchester City and Leipzig at this time, because Crvena and Young boys don't seem like opponents that look difficult even though there might be a chance they will perform very well because this is a big championship and of course they will work hard to provide resistance, can't wait for see their performances in the UCL, even though it's a little sad when we no longer see star players in the UCL later like Neymar, Messi and CR7 and others who have moved to the Arab league as well as to MLS

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The Turkish representative Galatasaray have had a really unlucky draw. I mean I think that the best achievement they can get in this group is to finish in 3rd place. Because it is very difficult for them to deal with Bayern Munich and Manchester United. They can only hope for getting a point home but even that isn't easy at all.

Maybe they can do well against Manchester United home because the Manchester team haven't started the season very impressively. If they can't work out their problems on defending this can be an important weakness.

Apart from that Galatasaray should be able to defeat Copenhagen in both matches to guarantee the Europa League ticket at least.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on September 01, 2023, 12:57:04 AM

The remaining groups are all normal, but the two that I believe will be difficult are groups c and f. Group c is made up of Real Madrid and Napoli, two very strong teams, and I believe that their matches will be difficult. Group f is made up of Psg, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, and it is the most difficult group in this location. Psg and Ac Milan will want to take advantage of their strong opportunity because they are two of the best teams that have ever competed.

In my opinion Group F is more exciting and challenging, especially for Newcastle, who had just entered the UCL, faced with a team that is very used to the UCL and in terms of squad depth, such as Dormund, PSG, and Milan, there is no doubt about it. Meanwhile, Man United group A only needs to secure points, at least with Bayern Munich they can exchange tickets. But it's still not easy to finish in second place, because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will do whatever they can to give maximum results.

For the other groups it is balanced and there are 2 superior clubs each, it's just that personally I always believe that the dark horse club will qualify without us expecting it.

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Quote from: Texac on September 01, 2023, 03:56:56 AM

First of all, I do not think that Newcastle United will actually be able to win the Champions League. That is even if they reach the finals. Now if you talk about how far they are going to go in the Champions League, that is another discussion. I personally think that they definitely have the capability to reach the semifinals of the Champions League. After all, they are improving quite quickly. But I am quite confident that they are not going to win the Champions League title.

But at the same time, I am pretty confident that Newcastle United has a better chance and will also go further in the competition compared to AC Milan. I just don’t think that AC Milan is going to be consistent. My expectation from AC Milan is for them to be as inconsistent as they generally are.

I would put PSG and AC Milan through to the round of 16 from group F, it is very possible for Milan to win this group. UCL is not only about the quality of the players you have, but the mentality as a club is a very important point. Dortmund, Newcastle and PSG are still very far from Milan level mentally. Due to the influence of large funds they can buy good players but cannot buy mentality. We can see Man City journey in winning the UCL last season, Pep Guardiola had to build the City squad for 7 years to be the best in Europe.

I predict that Newcastle and Dortmund will not qualify from the group phase, even though many people place both clubs as better than AC Milan.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 02:49:16 AM

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Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

What does it even mean when he says that Dortmund are big comedians? Didn't he find the right word is that what he really meant to say? Cheesy

The group isn't easy for any of the teams, but I think Dortmund is a little bit behind. In my opinion there is no big favorite, and no big outsider. The thing is that every team can take way points from any other team in that group. It is not like there is this one big favorite who will win the 6 games most likely. I expect a very close group with lots of excitement until the last match.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on August 31, 2023, 04:55:30 PM

I also thought the same but the fact that Newcastle doesn’t have any prior experience of the champions league competition makes me doubt their qualification out of the group stage. Just like you’ve analyzed each team, any team can fumble and give Newcastle a breakthrough to the next round. This won’t still be easy though, because every team comes with a lot of preparations, zeal and have trained hard to win each of the matches and qualify for the next round. The competition in that group is going to be fierce and interesting to watch.

It's been a long time since last time of newcastle play in the UCL. It's an enormous challenge for howe to make sure newcastle will compete with another strong team in this group. People were calling this group as the most difficult group this season.
It seemed to me all the clubs have the same chances to be qualified for the play off. Experience matter but mentality from the club is the key factor to be qualified to go to the play off.
This group will always have hard game. Anyteam placed in this group are strong teams.

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I also thought the same but the fact that Newcastle doesn’t have any prior experience of the champions league competition makes me doubt their qualification out of the group stage. Just like you’ve analyzed each team, any team can fumble and give Newcastle a breakthrough to the next round. This won’t still be easy though, because every team comes with a lot of preparations, zeal and have trained hard to win each of the matches and qualify for the next round. The competition in that group is going to be fierce and interesting to watch.

For now, I think that the opportunities they have are quite equal because several teams lost their best players this season, such as PSG, who lost Messi and Neymar, so their strength is still not stable enough recently. Apart from that for Dortmund they were also unstable in the bundesliga at the start of this season and also they lost Bellingham in this transfer window. So Newcastle United can try hard to exploit the weaknesses of their opponents in the Champions League this season.

But for AC Milan it seems like they were able to improve their best strength at the start of the season so that they have a pretty good advantage over their strength in the Champions League this season. Moreover, Pulisic presence makes a big difference to their strength on the front lines.

First of all, I do not think that Newcastle United will actually be able to win the Champions League. That is even if they reach the finals. Now if you talk about how far they are going to go in the Champions League, that is another discussion. I personally think that they definitely have the capability to reach the semifinals of the Champions League. After all, they are improving quite quickly. But I am quite confident that they are not going to win the Champions League title.

But at the same time, I am pretty confident that Newcastle United has a better chance and will also go further in the competition compared to AC Milan. I just don’t think that AC Milan is going to be consistent. My expectation from AC Milan is for them to be as inconsistent as they generally are.

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Maybe Newcastle came from the last pot to Group F but they can't be underestimated even a bit. Because the progress they have made recently is really big. Maybe they haven't been a regular in the Champions League for many years. But I don't still expect them to have big difficulties in adapting to the tournament.

Even against PSG they can stay solid. In England at least. But PSG are really not very consistent these days. This makes me think about different scenarios for the group but let's see. There are still many weeks until the games start.

I don't really see Newcastle to be a team that will struggle in the Champions league game because they have done lots of works in making their squad good for the season. Since last season PSG have not been performing so well in their games, with what Newcastle have so far this season they will be problem to PSG because they are no more just like a struggling teams. Newcastle are among one of the tough teams in premier league, so therefore champions league won't be a big deal for them.

The problem is that this is the first time after a long time they are not in the Champions League because the last time they were in the big Champions League competition was the 2002/2003 season which means that it has been 2 decades that they have missed this big competition.
Now they are in a group that can indeed be said to be difficult because their opponents are big clubs subscribed to the Champions League even 3 clubs (PSG, Milan and Dortmund) last season all qualified for the knock out phase.
This is a big challenge for them in the first season but in this case their chance is still there for now and if their performance is good then they also still have the potential to qualify from the group phase this season.

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This season, Real Madrid seems to have a smooth road to qualify for the round of 16 even though Napoli can really be a threat to reduce points gain in the group stage. I am optimistic that Real Madrid will lead the standings despite facing a difficult opponent, but it is not a big challenge. I'm not looking down on Braga and Union Berlin, but I'm sure these two teams are not suitable opponents for Real Madrid let alone to make our plans fail this season.

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Newcastle is unlucky because they are into hell group with Dortmund, AC Milan and PSG at group F and i know it's too early to says they will not qualified but their opponents mostly is strong teams at their domestic league and but they can't do anything because for drawing pot Newcastle into pot 4 which is mediocre status
But other Premier League team Arsenal looks into easy group because their opponent is Sevilla, PSV and Lens and on the paper Arsenal should be able to overcomes them and my prediction for group B is i think Arsenal will be qualified especially one of their opponent Sevilla currently is not in the good shape because of their internal issues
Manchester United also had good opportunity to qualified and the most strongest team into group A is Bayern Munich but i think they can able to overcomes Galatasaray and Copenhagen so in my opinion Manchester United most likely will be qualified to the next stage and possibly will finish at runner up position under Bayern Munich

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 02:49:16 AM

Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 02:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

I have always said before now that Newcastle United even though they are new to the Champions League, they will not fail to qualify from the group stage. I have said this and maintained it for a very long time, but after yesterday that I saw the Champions League draw, I began to withdraw my statement.
The people in that group are all well experienced in the Champions League matters, and they have good players presently. It will be very difficult for Newcastle to qualify from that group because they are also playing their local league. That group is not an easy one for Newcastle to be very honest with you.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 31, 2023, 06:37:38 PM

Gvardiol will be facing his former club again. What an interesting group to watch. Manchester city had a very good record against leipzig and im sure city will become the one who got perfect result in the group stage.
While Manchester City will be without some of its crucial players, it is still difficult to imagine Leipzig coming out on top. City will be dominating the league like the previous season again.
It's time for city to show the true power of strongest club in the world right now.

The good thing is city and leipzig have bigger chance to be qualified for play off. Im not really familiar with the rest of club int he group G.
I know a little about young boyz but i never heard that crvena was able qualified for the UCL as well.

On papers many things are looking easy with reality is mostly different from these predictions and views about teams right now we are just talking and having nothing to do with how things will be happened on ground few groups are looking easier with just one or two looking difficult but many times while we have end of the group stage many results give us shock because different of one or two points create good unpredictable situations and help weak clubs to go through.

After watching draws and having teams I am also predicting about few teams, but now I have to wait for the December about real results which will give better view no doubt from this group we will have Manchester City and RB Leipzig because of quality difference but during games upsets can also create good mess-up for them.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on September 01, 2023, 02:49:16 AM

Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 02:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

everything will be proven when the game starts. and the better-prepared team will get the chance to win. Newcastle is indeed a team that has shown big changes in recent years. they appear stronger. but meeting strong European teams requires a competitive mentality. not just skill and consistency like playing in the League.
I hope Newcastle also have the chance to show their quality in the group stage. maybe it won't be easy, but I hope they show their best.

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Quote from: harapan on September 01, 2023, 02:31:00 AM

Remember PSG has an experienced coach who has also won the competition. With Mbappe around they can qualify for the next round let's just be hopeful he is not Injured.
Dortmund are big comedians when it comes to the Champions League I do not rate them to go that far. They should have won against Chelsea during the group stage they couldn't.
Milan looks dangerous not with the mouth, paper or odds, they are coming with a force unstoppable they should sit with ease at the top of this group.

Do you think Newcastle United cannot beat any of these teams?
I think we should not look down on them because they are a completely different team since last season, and it is not easy to qualify for the Champions League ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea in the Premier League. I think we should give them attention too because they will surprise us in the group stage, especially since both PSG and Dortmund are not in good form compared to last season.

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Quote from: MK-74 on August 31, 2023, 05:01:10 PM

The lots were drawn and the groups were determined. I think the most difficult group is F. (PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Ac Milan, Newcastle United)

Galatasaray's group is also a difficult group, Bayer Munich, Manchester United and Copenhagen. I think we can be 3rd best in this group.

Easiest group E: Feyenoord, Atletico Madrid, Lazio, Celtic

Galatasaray's group is one of the most difficult groups I have seen in a long time. They need a miracle to get to the top of this group. They will not have a chance against Bayern, they have to win the Copenhagen match.
If they can fight a little against Manchester United they might have a chance but to be honest they won't have much of a chance. It will be nice for the fans that they will be playing against pretty good teams

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I think the PSG team is in great danger. Because in comparison, the rest of the teams in this group are quite strong. The rest of the teams will fight hard with the PSG team. PSG team will be under great pressure.

PSG are in the toughest group this season where Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle are teams that are really good enough to be expected to be able to provide the best competition. Last season Milan made it to the semi-finals, while Dortmund and PSG failed earlier, but this is a new season for Newcastle who have just proven their quality in the Premier League.

I consider PSG and Milan to qualify for the last 16, while Newcastle will probably drop into the Europa League. Meanwhile, I will not completely underestimate Dortmund, who are basically convincing enough to lock up a spot in the last 16 phase. But I think Luis Enrique and Stefano Pioli look better prepared to face this challenge.

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