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June 28, 2023, 06:11:59 PM

It must be feeling great for Manchester City to find Gundogan's replacement right away. Kovacic would be a great alternative to him I think. He has been an important player for Chelsea for many years hence I don't even know why they were okay to let him go just like that. They are in a rebuild phase maybe but Kovacic shouldn't have been one of the players to be wasted easily. Thanks to this cheap transfer (29m euros) Manchester City can comfortably allocate more money for their other targets.

Gvardiol is indeed about to be Manchester City player. 100 million euros is the price Leipzig have for him. As Manchester City made their first offer as 90 million I guess he would join them soon.
At this point, importing players from Chelsea comes with alot of baggage noting the fact that Chelsea have underperformed greatly and because of that, most of their players are already out of form and for Manchester city who is championship title holder to sign a replacement for such critical position from Chelsea's will really amount to a lot of work for the club to be able to align the player to actually fit into that position and delivering.
There is no doubt that the player did well while in Chelsea but the truth is that, the club performance have discredit that players effort and at that any player leaving Chelsea will have low value in the transfer market.
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June 28, 2023, 04:47:37 PM
Manchester City isn't suffering from a midfielder shortage. If anything will ever be missing in one of Pep Guardiola's squads, it will not be midfielders. I remember him saying how much he loves midfielders and that he can never have enough of them and would even like to play with 10 midfielders at the same time Tongue
Yes, this marena is also related to Pep's tactics and strategy so far, especially at Man City and it was finally successful, as evidenced by the treble winners in the previous season. Although everything will definitely take time to process. but really, his jokes about midfielders are quite entertaining. After all, apart from winning, Pep also loves the deadly beautiful game
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June 28, 2023, 04:22:11 PM
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I don't think it will be good if Rice plays for Manchester City, as they have a lot of players with qualities that will allow them to perform normally from now until two years from now. Even if Gundogan is sold, the team won't suffer because they have a lot of players who can hold the position very well. Instead, I think Arsenal is the team that deserves Rice right now because their performance has been lacking recently and they are looking for a midfielder to improve it.
Due to press reports, I'm hearing that Arsenal will pay whatever it takes to obtain Declan Rice. I think that before the start of the league the following season, Arsenal will sign Rice.
Manchester City can expect their side to achieve stability in good form in midfield if Declan Rice is sold by West Ham for them. But so far Arsenal seem more likely to sign him as they have offered West Ham a lot of money plus bonuses. Manchester City are also hoping for it, but based on the latest news Arsenal appear to be ahead.

I don't think Manchester City will always be good enough without a good midfielder who supports the performance of his forward players. De Bruyne will no longer be as strong as he seems to tire easily, but De Bruyne still has had some great seasons at Manchester City. Of course Manchester City wants to strengthen and maintain stability, so Declan Rice is a good option. But they will most likely fail for Declan Rice, I think.

Manchester City isn't suffering from a midfielder shortage. If anything will ever be missing in one of Pep Guardiola's squads, it will not be midfielders. I remember him saying how much he loves midfielders and that he can never have enough of them and would even like to play with 10 midfielders at the same time Tongue

The transfer market is open for a while now and Manchester City has the time and the money to carefully observe what is going on over the next few weeks and then approach their targeted players and see what would make sense for them. Rejecting an offer and accepting it from Arsenal isn't strange as someone like Rice knows that his chances to play every single minute are higher in Arsenal London.
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June 28, 2023, 03:53:26 PM
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I don't think it will be good if Rice plays for Manchester City, as they have a lot of players with qualities that will allow them to perform normally from now until two years from now. Even if Gundogan is sold, the team won't suffer because they have a lot of players who can hold the position very well. Instead, I think Arsenal is the team that deserves Rice right now because their performance has been lacking recently and they are looking for a midfielder to improve it.
Due to press reports, I'm hearing that Arsenal will pay whatever it takes to obtain Declan Rice. I think that before the start of the league the following season, Arsenal will sign Rice.
Manchester City can expect their side to achieve stability in good form in midfield if Declan Rice is sold by West Ham for them. But so far Arsenal seem more likely to sign him as they have offered West Ham a lot of money plus bonuses. Manchester City are also hoping for it, but based on the latest news Arsenal appear to be ahead.

I don't think Manchester City will always be good enough without a good midfielder who supports the performance of his forward players. De Bruyne will no longer be as strong as he seems to tire easily, but De Bruyne still has had some great seasons at Manchester City. Of course Manchester City wants to strengthen and maintain stability, so Declan Rice is a good option. But they will most likely fail for Declan Rice, I think.
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June 28, 2023, 03:42:15 PM
Gundogan leaving Manchester City is not a problem for Pep Guardiola,  Pep Guardiola knows how to replace every important player leaving the team. Gundogan departure won't affect the performance of Manchester City next  season, Pep Guardiola has already sort out a good player that will fill the space of Gundogan.
With Pep Guardiola i still expect Manchester City to do great in their performance just like they did in the previous season .

In Pep's Man City, I don't think there's a player that is too important. I don't think there is a player that without him the team won't be able to compete. Not De Bryune, not Halland, and whosoever else. These players are good, very good we know but the glue of that team is Pep Guardiola.
We saw how De Bryune was injured for almost half a season one time and Gunduga stepped up and Man City won the league without De Bruyne.
In the current team, when Halland is not around, or not performing, Alvarez steps in.
Pep is most likely going to lose players and B. Silva this summer, he has already lost Gundugan, but 25 matches into the coming season he would be at the top of the English Premier League table
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June 28, 2023, 03:23:20 PM
Yes, you are right. Kovacic is about to become their new signing officially. He would fit the team really great after Gundogan's arrival. He can make a solid contribution to the midfield and I still wonder why Chelsea let him go in the first place. Kovacic is still 29 years old and he can play at least for a couple of years for Manchester City.
Mateo Kovacic is the ideal midfielder to replace Ilkay Gondogan for Manchester City. I agree on that, however Manchester City still need to consider a younger midfielder than Mateo Kovacic as a long-term project. It may not matter if they fail to get him in the near future, but Manchester City must do so in the middle of the season after Pep Guardiola evaluated the quality of his team.

Aside from that I didn't know De Bruyne was going to be the new captain. I think he is a great choice for this title. He has been a part of the team since the 2015/16 season and he has really been like a leader so far.
I think Kevin De Bruyne is suitable and worthy of being the captain of Manchester City next season. He is an influential player and of course Pep Guardiola would appoint him over any other player. In several matches, De Bruyne was the captain, especially when Ilkay Gundogan did not start in Manchester City's line-up.
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June 28, 2023, 03:18:25 PM
He has plans to buy Rice but the funds that West Ham is asking for is too much. I believe they might both be on the same page or Gaudiola will go for someone else.
The price West Ham have demanded is fair enough for them since the player they are about to sell is one of their best players who helped them last season win a title after so many years of waiting. Manchester City will abandon the deal not because they cannot afford to pay the fee but because they do not value him that much. Manchester City already have a lot of quality players in their midfield, Declan Rice is not a priority for them so they will refuse to pay the demanded fee. Arsenal really needs him, it is why they are still pushing to secure the move.

I don't think it will be good if Rice plays for Manchester City, as they have a lot of players with qualities that will allow them to perform normally from now until two years from now. Even if Gundogan is sold, the team won't suffer because they have a lot of players who can hold the position very well. Instead, I think Arsenal is the team that deserves Rice right now because their performance has been lacking recently and they are looking for a midfielder to improve it.
Due to press reports, I'm hearing that Arsenal will pay whatever it takes to obtain Declan Rice. I think that before the start of the league the following season, Arsenal will sign Rice.
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June 28, 2023, 03:15:57 PM
The match between buducnost vs Breiðablik

Im not sure which club that's gonna be winning the game but it seems like that buducnost is quite stronger compared with Breiðablik. Breiðablik has more advantage as the game will be playing on Breiðablik's home which is in iceland.
I think that if it gives more than chance for Breiðablik to change the situation. Breiðablik was able beating penne with huge scores. It gives Breiðablik more confidence to beat buducnost.
Buducnost has better stats from all of competitions compared with Breiðablik. I think that if these clubs gonna use same strategy as previous match.
A bit hard to determine which club that will be winning prelminary play off final soon.
I think these two teams have qualities that may not be much different and thus, it is certainly difficult for us to be able to predict which team will win in this match. Because yes, even though Breidablik won big in the previous match, in reality, Buducnost also managed to win big and even Buducnost could win with clean sheets. Also, Buducnost can be said to be a team that has quite good domination in the domestic league, but I don't think that can be guaranteed. So yes, one thing I'm sure of is, that both teams to score might be a good option in this match or maybe it's about total goals.

The Breidablik team had a great 7-1 win against TrePenne in their last match. Breidablik players dominated the entire match. Tre penne's players tend to create too many chances in attack. If Breidablik can play the same way in the next match they will win. But Podgorica is not a weak team. This group is also quite strong. And so if Breidablik wants to win this match, their players must be confident. Also, the players have to perform very carefully in this match.
This match are really difficult to predict, statistically both of them can be said to be equal, but indeed Breiðablik in the last match gave quite a surprise, they can managed to beat S.P. Tre Penne with a big score. Meanwhile, Buducnost also has a record that is not too bad, so there is a possibility that the two of them still have a chance to win. Also that match was an important match for both of team, for sure they will probably try very seriously to win.
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June 28, 2023, 02:59:55 PM
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I'm sure they have a lot of options to put in the midfield. They can evaluate one of them and make up for Gundogan's absence. As for the team captain, I think it is no longer as important as it used to be. İlkay leaves, someone else becomes captain and Manchester City continues to win, I don't think anything will change.
Kevin De Bruyne will replace Ilkay Gundogan who moved to Barcelona. De Bruyne will be Manchester City's main captain next season, but Pep Guardiola may still be hoping for a worthy replacement.

Pep Guardiola has signed possible Mateo Kovacic for Ilkay Gundogan's replacement. Kovacic is also good at providing stability in midfield, he can help Rodri and De Bruyne in midfield. Pep Guardiola has many options in midfield, so Manchester City's form next season shouldn't fall apart.

Yes, you are right. Kovacic is about to become their new signing officially. He would fit the team really great after Gundogan's arrival. He can make a solid contribution to the midfield and I still wonder why Chelsea let him go in the first place. Kovacic is still 29 years old and he can play at least for a couple of years for Manchester City.

Aside from that I didn't know De Bruyne was going to be the new captain. I think he is a great choice for this title. He has been a part of the team since the 2015/16 season and he has really been like a leader so far.
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June 28, 2023, 02:50:09 PM
I am not sure how many voids would they even have. As far as I know the only player that left from the starting squad was Ilkay wasn't it? Looking at transfermarkt that seems like the only player that matters for them at this moment.

They won so many cups at the same time in a single season that there is a path for them to win 6 cups in a single season as well (missed the only possible 7 cups in a season chance) so they should be able to pay insane amount of money to get a single player to replace Ilkay, like literally 100+ million but also possible to spend as much as 200 million this season. That would be too much for almost all players, I really suggested Jude whatever the cost would be, but they failed that, at least aim at Declan Rica, that should be possible.
West Ham seem to have started showing goodwill regarding Arsenal's bid for Declan Rice whose value has already reached 100m. On the other hand, it seems that Manchester City will no longer prioritize Declan Rice this summer because Arsenal do not seem to be going down and just give in. I think there are good players who are ready to accept Manchester City's offer instead of just Declan Rice, but Manchester City will have to move fast to do it.

Ilkay Gundogan was certainly an important player in recent seasons with Manchester City, but his adventure has come to an end as he agreed to join Barcelona for free. So now Manchester City need to find a replacement, but of course they will pay a heavy price for that.
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June 28, 2023, 02:44:15 PM
Its can't stop Manchester City for defense their Champion League tittle for next season although leaving by Gundogan, still have Kevin De Bruyne and actually Haaland its the most important player for Manchester City won treble last season.
Man City have complete players. Core and reserve players alike have abilities not much different. Gundogan's departure is not a difficult matter. Pep Guardiola has chosen Mateo Kovacic to replace Ilkay Gundogan. I don't think it will be too difficult for Man City to stay in the UCL. Mateo is worth €30m with €25m paid directly and the remaining €5m spent as bonuses later by Manchester City. This bonus is issued if later Mateo can get a trophy.

Manchester City is honestly not going to care too much if Gündoğan stays or leaves, to be honest. Because Manchester City has enough money to buy another player like him or even better. Manchester City can replace almost any player except for Eling Haaland, Kevin De Bruyne, and Phil Foden. The others are replaceable in my opinion.

I think Mateo Kovacic is a good replacement for Gündoğan. Quite similar levels of players as well. I must say that Pep Guardiola is doing a good job with Manchester City. I think Manchester City is not going to face too much problems as well going into the Champions League competition with him. The strength of Manchester City is that they can actually repeat players quite easily.

I agree with @Luzin that they have similar levels of players in the main team and also in the substitute/reserves as well. It makes Manchester City very strong in any competition.


But isn't that way too early to tell? Wink Whether Gundogan will be missed or not, time will tell. Manchester City lets one player go that works perfectly within the team and knows the team without a doubt. They now got a new player and need to see how it works out. Saying that he won't be missed is still unknown in my opinion They won't fall apart or run into a major crisis because of selling Gundogan, but I can imagine games where some commentators would say that a Gundogan is missed. He has improved so much that I thought it would not be possible.
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June 28, 2023, 02:40:33 PM
Manchester City is honestly not going to care too much if Gündoğan stays or leaves, to be honest. Because Manchester City has enough money to buy another player like him or even better. Manchester City can replace almost any player except for Eling Haaland, Kevin De Bruyne, and Phil Foden. The others are replaceable in my opinion.

I think Mateo Kovacic is a good replacement for Gündoğan. Quite similar levels of players as well. I must say that Pep Guardiola is doing a good job with Manchester City. I think Manchester City is not going to face too much problems as well going into the Champions League competition with him. The strength of Manchester City is that they can actually repeat players quite easily.

Maybe, but what you say is not entirely true. because, the problem is not easy to bring in a replacement for IIkay Gundohan who left for Barcelona. IMO, Gundohan is a smart player and also has the experience requirements with the potential he has. so, it doesn't mean that Man City doesn't care about Gundohan's departure this season. in fact, Gundohan turned down offers to renew his contract with TheCitizen. automatically, Pep must find a replacement candidate who has almost the same characteristics as Gundohan. because, Pep needs players who have high mobility with the system he implements.

But we agree on one thing, that Manchester City can bring in younger and great players with the money they have. unfortunately, not many players have almost the same characteristics as Gundohan. Now, Pep has signed Mateo Kovacic from Chelsea. maybe, Pep will make this one player an ideal replacement for Gundohan's position. Pep just needs to polish it, to make Mateo Kovacic reveal the potential and talent he has. but for sure, we'll see how it goes when Mateo Kovacic plays his match with his new squad. But anyway, we agree that City are still the favourites.
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June 28, 2023, 01:54:01 PM
Its can't stop Manchester City for defense their Champion League tittle for next season although leaving by Gundogan, still have Kevin De Bruyne and actually Haaland its the most important player for Manchester City won treble last season.
Man City have complete players. Core and reserve players alike have abilities not much different. Gundogan's departure is not a difficult matter. Pep Guardiola has chosen Mateo Kovacic to replace Ilkay Gundogan. I don't think it will be too difficult for Man City to stay in the UCL. Mateo is worth €30m with €25m paid directly and the remaining €5m spent as bonuses later by Manchester City. This bonus is issued if later Mateo can get a trophy.

Manchester City is honestly not going to care too much if Gündoğan stays or leaves, to be honest. Because Manchester City has enough money to buy another player like him or even better. Manchester City can replace almost any player except for Eling Haaland, Kevin De Bruyne, and Phil Foden. The others are replaceable in my opinion.

I think Mateo Kovacic is a good replacement for Gündoğan. Quite similar levels of players as well. I must say that Pep Guardiola is doing a good job with Manchester City. I think Manchester City is not going to face too much problems as well going into the Champions League competition with him. The strength of Manchester City is that they can actually repeat players quite easily.

I agree with @Luzin that they have similar levels of players in the main team and also in the substitute/reserves as well. It makes Manchester City very strong in any competition.
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June 28, 2023, 12:38:50 PM
I'm sure Guardiola will buy players that are really needed to make Manchester City able to fill the void in the squad team even better next season, that's why he's not too hasty to take players not as easy as imagined, of course it needs careful calculation that the players bought are correct really can contribute to manchester city.

But whatever it is, I'm sure Pep Guardiola will bring Manchester City to win the UCL again next season, I believe he will bring in really quality players for Manchester City before the transfer window closes, but with the players already in their team, their squad is more than enough. to compete in the next season both in the domestic league and European championships such as the UCL.  Cheesy
I am not sure how many voids would they even have. As far as I know the only player that left from the starting squad was Ilkay wasn't it? Looking at transfermarkt that seems like the only player that matters for them at this moment.

They won so many cups at the same time in a single season that there is a path for them to win 6 cups in a single season as well (missed the only possible 7 cups in a season chance) so they should be able to pay insane amount of money to get a single player to replace Ilkay, like literally 100+ million but also possible to spend as much as 200 million this season. That would be too much for almost all players, I really suggested Jude whatever the cost would be, but they failed that, at least aim at Declan Rica, that should be possible.
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June 28, 2023, 11:56:40 AM
The match between buducnost vs Breiðablik

Im not sure which club that's gonna be winning the game but it seems like that buducnost is quite stronger compared with Breiðablik. Breiðablik has more advantage as the game will be playing on Breiðablik's home which is in iceland.
I think that if it gives more than chance for Breiðablik to change the situation. Breiðablik was able beating penne with huge scores. It gives Breiðablik more confidence to beat buducnost.
Buducnost has better stats from all of competitions compared with Breiðablik. I think that if these clubs gonna use same strategy as previous match.
A bit hard to determine which club that will be winning prelminary play off final soon.
I think these two teams have qualities that may not be much different and thus, it is certainly difficult for us to be able to predict which team will win in this match. Because yes, even though Breidablik won big in the previous match, in reality, Buducnost also managed to win big and even Buducnost could win with clean sheets. Also, Buducnost can be said to be a team that has quite good domination in the domestic league, but I don't think that can be guaranteed. So yes, one thing I'm sure of is, that both teams to score might be a good option in this match or maybe it's about total goals.

The Breidablik team had a great 7-1 win against TrePenne in their last match. Breidablik players dominated the entire match. Tre penne's players tend to create too many chances in attack. If Breidablik can play the same way in the next match they will win. But Podgorica is not a weak team. This group is also quite strong. And so if Breidablik wants to win this match, their players must be confident. Also, the players have to perform very carefully in this match.
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June 28, 2023, 11:44:18 AM
The match between buducnost vs Breiðablik

Im not sure which club that's gonna be winning the game but it seems like that buducnost is quite stronger compared with Breiðablik. Breiðablik has more advantage as the game will be playing on Breiðablik's home which is in iceland.
I think that if it gives more than chance for Breiðablik to change the situation. Breiðablik was able beating penne with huge scores. It gives Breiðablik more confidence to beat buducnost.

Buducnost has better stats from all of competitions compared with Breiðablik. I think that if these clubs gonna use same strategy as previous match.

A bit hard to determine which club that will be winning prelminary play off final soon.

I think these two teams have qualities that may not be much different and thus, it is certainly difficult for us to be able to predict which team will win in this match. Because yes, even though Breidablik won big in the previous match, in reality, Buducnost also managed to win big and even Buducnost could win with clean sheets. Also, Buducnost can be said to be a team that has quite good domination in the domestic league, but I don't think that can be guaranteed. So yes, one thing I'm sure of is, that both teams to score might be a good option in this match or maybe it's about total goals.
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June 28, 2023, 10:57:36 AM
Before window transfer is close, Manchester City has many chance for signing new player actually supported with much money and easy for Pep Guardiola filling hole position leaving by Gundogan and try to defend Champion League tittle for next season.
Money is one of the factors why Manchester City is quite successful in the transfer market but that's not the only factor, another factor that makes them successful in bringing in players and these players being successful in developing at City is the foresight of the manager to assess players who can really a mainstay in their squad, after several key players were about to leave City they were able to quickly replace the vacated spot with players who were younger and also of the same quality.
Manchester City doesn't seem to want to let go of any title they won last season, so with big money they are trying to achieve their target later.
Manchester city success is first because of money. No club develops from an average to a top class club without money. Money to buy quality players, money to hire a high profile coach. The success of Manchester City cannot be narrated without mentioning Guardiola. Assuming Manchester City had the money to spend and did not get the right manager, it would still be a problem for them.
Last season, Newcastle entered the journey of being a prominent club and we have seen the success do far. If they continue with this pace. In the next few seasons they will be great.

I would not say that Manchester City's success is only due to money. Manchester City's great results are possible due to the hard work of their managers and coaches. Because we saw the PSG team. They have a lot of money. The club has also spent a lot of money. However, their performance is poor. There are also a number of rich clubs that have a lot of money. But even so, their performance has been quite poor compared to Manchester City in the last few seasons. Of course, money is needed to build a strong team. But success is not possible only with money.
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June 28, 2023, 10:42:13 AM
The match between buducnost vs Breiðablik

Im not sure which club that's gonna be winning the game but it seems like that buducnost is quite stronger compared with Breiðablik. Breiðablik has more advantage as the game will be playing on Breiðablik's home which is in iceland.
I think that if it gives more than chance for Breiðablik to change the situation. Breiðablik was able beating penne with huge scores. It gives Breiðablik more confidence to beat buducnost.

Buducnost has better stats from all of competitions compared with Breiðablik. I think that if these clubs gonna use same strategy as previous match.

A bit hard to determine which club that will be winning prelminary play off final soon.
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June 28, 2023, 10:32:30 AM
Before window transfer is close, Manchester City has many chance for signing new player actually supported with much money and easy for Pep Guardiola filling hole position leaving by Gundogan and try to defend Champion League tittle for next season.
Money is one of the factors why Manchester City is quite successful in the transfer market but that's not the only factor, another factor that makes them successful in bringing in players and these players being successful in developing at City is the foresight of the manager to assess players who can really a mainstay in their squad, after several key players were about to leave City they were able to quickly replace the vacated spot with players who were younger and also of the same quality.
Manchester City doesn't seem to want to let go of any title they won last season, so with big money they are trying to achieve their target later.
Those who think Manchester City is successful in the transfer market just because they have money are wrong. Because if money was the only way to succeed in the transformer market, then PSG's name would be on top. Manchester City are successful in the transfer market because they have a successful manager and they have money. With money and an experienced manager, they became a successful team. And Pep Guardiola has made a big contribution to the players they have bought and turned the team into a balanced team. The unchanged squad that saw Manchester City lift the Champions League trophy last season is very strong for next season and a cause for concern for any opposition.
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June 28, 2023, 10:23:58 AM
Gundogan leaving Manchester City is not a problem for Pep Guardiola,  Pep Guardiola knows how to replace every important player leaving the team. Gundogan departure won't affect the performance of Manchester City next  season, Pep Guardiola has already sort out a good player that will fill the space of Gundogan.
 With Pep Guardiola i still expect Manchester City to do great in their performance just like they did in the previous season .
Gundogan  leaving Manchester city will affect him but i don't really think their is any effect on the clubs team, pep guardiola is really a smart coach, he is already having replacement for Gundogan, but we know Gundogan performed well in Manchester city last season, and he was among the players that contributed to the great success of Manchester city last season, but am sure Gundogan leaving Manchester city wont have much effect on Manchester city next season because pep guardiola already has plans for it.
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