Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 299. (Read 141787 times)

Finally, I got someone who doesn't follow the Premier League, LOL. Because yes, I think the Premier League is the most popular league in the world, so I think of course those who know football will definitely follow the Premier League. But yes, apart from that and related about Arsenal, which in the last few seasons has had good results and performance in the Premier League. But yes, this season it seems that Arsenal is getting an even better trend compared to previous seasons, so that this season Arsenal also managed to qualify for the quarter-finals of the Champions League and will meet or play against Bayern Munich.

But yes, considering that Arsenal are currently in the top position in the Premier League standings and Bayern Munich which experience a decline this season because Bayern Munich will definitely fail to win the Bundesliga trophy. Therefore, maybe some people will think Arsenal is capable of beating Bayern Munich this knockout phase. But not for me because after all, in my view, Bayern Munich is still in good performance too, so playing against Arsenal in the quarter-finals this time, I personally still think that Bayern Munich will still win. But indeed, with a note, of course all of their main players must remain available and no one is injured and also, based on the existing head to head records, Bayern Munich also has a good dominant victory against Arsenal in the Champions League.

Without being told, a 50/50 match I am expecting to see because Manchester City is not a small team that will allow its fellow team(Real Madrid) to dominate them because they are the guest team. Manchester City don't seem to care about that because they will come out with their whole strength to make sure they win or have a draw at least. Real Madrid on the other hand, knows the team they are up against anyway(not a small team), that they will do their best to win in the first leg with them because coming to Manchester City home, it is very difficult to hold them to a draw or win them. If a team(Real Madrid) fails to win them(Manchester City) in their very home, they shouldn't be looking at winning at their own home because it will be very difficult.

I do agree that Bayern is a team that played at this level quite frequently and they look a lot better, I believe that could be the most important part. I get that it may not feel like a great situation at times, but I feel like it will happen one way or another. In the end, we will see how it goes and how we can react to it, we just need to give it some time.

Maybe it's not that easy to figure out how to make Arsenal be around here all the time, but for the time being Bayern seems like a better chance. I will definitely bet on Bayern to win, but would I be shocked if I see Arsenal somehow get the win? I would not, I think that's also possible, not the highest chance, I still think Bayern will win, but it is not like a huge huge gap.

What a weird logic. You count only manchester united and who the hell was winning UCL last season? Did city come from la liga or serie a? I can't even understand it since your logic doesn't even relate to the fact that has happened last season when EPL club was winning the competition.



That's the list of UCL winner since 2000. EPL clubs have been starting to show it it was able competing in the UCL after we have entered into the 2000s.

Even though la liga team is still dominating UCL trophies but EPL is still also at the second place and it's far better compared to the another league. It means that if EPL was not only better compared to the la liga clubs. I strongly disagree with your opinion.

Arsenal vs Bayern Munich will be an interesting match to watch, regardless of the current condition of the two teams of course they have different missions this season in the Champions League, Munich who are currently down in the league certainly make the Champions League as their main target to win the trophy and at the same time to show if indeed their influence and greatness does not fade in the Champions League even though they no longer dominate in the Bundesliga,  Arsenal are also on a mission to get their first trophy in the Champions League and break a bad trend of ending too soon in the Champions League after previously being able to reach the final in 2006.

Both teams will of course play all out in the match, especially Arsenal which has been a club that has consistently qualified for the Champions League until 2017, but unfortunately they began to struggle to reach the Champions League zone afterwards As you said, the 2006 and 2009 seasons were Arsenal's farthest journey in the Champions League so far,  And interestingly for now they have a chance to be able to surpass their journey in the past, although it was difficult because they faced Bayern Munich but I think they still have a chance to go far in the Champions League this season.

English team dont do so good on international tournaments usually so dont take the games from Premier League like a good way to measure how good are the teams, because after that you are gonna think Premier League teams are way superior and in the real matches that is not happening. We see a lot of timesBilbao or Villarreal beating teams like Manchester united.

Hmm... I thought there was direct logic here (I leave all the quotes so that the dialogue is visible from the very beginning): odds 2 (which seemed dubious to you) means that this event will occur with exactly 50% probability (let’s not waste time and remember about the bookmaker’s margin ). That is, if Arsenal can win one of the two games against Bayern, then odds 2 are fair. And in my opinion, Arsenal, as the leader of the Premier League, in a home game against the second Bundesliga team is obliged to win one game out of two (50% on average = odds 2 on bookmaker language).
As I understand from your comment, you think that Arsenal should be listed in the range of 2.5-3, and this means that Arsenal is not capable of winning one game out of two against Bayern on average.

In fact, this match has not even been held at all, but we have assumed too much beyond something that cannot be confirmed. well, let's see how these two teams meet and fight to beat each other. so far, we have only seen data and statistics, but the actual match has not been held at all. now if you try to refer to several references, for example the options provided by gambling bookies. for the time being, Arsenal is at odds @2.03, while Bayern Munich is at odds @3.55. well, we can respond a little based on the options that the bookies provide. Here we can see that Arsenal has a chance to beat Bayern Munich in the first leg. Moreover, this match was played at the Emirates Stadium.

Well, I have a different interpretation to what you said. Even though Bayern Munich is more experienced, Arsenal is now different in Arteta's hands. Moreover, Bayern Munich's condition was also unstable. Therefore, this quarter-final match will not be very easy for visiting Bayern as well as Arsenal. However, Arsenal has the advantage of playing at the Emirates Stadium, their home ground. Arsenal now, not Arsenal in the 2017 season. Bayern now, not a very fierce Bayern. So, to find out which team will win, let's just wait for the meeting of these two teams to be held.

What you say is true, I don`t follow the Premier League in detail, but if I am not mistaken Arsenal are first in the table so let`s say it can`t be too bad

Of course they face a team with a lot of experience and a rocky team, but we are almost at the end, all the matches will be difficult and uncertain

Madrid is strong on its attacking line but quite weak on its defensive line. However, Madrid has a better stat line than Manchester City in the domestic league.

Madrid GF 64 GA 20

Man city GF 63 GA 28

Manchester City has had the worst stats in the domestic league league when compared to Real Madrid, but it cannot be said that Madrid is superior here. I believe Manchester City is slightly stronger than Real Madrid. Walker will be missed by the city, but there is someone who can take his place. I am not really sure if Rico Lewis will be one on one against vini. Missing walker is something unpredictable since walker injured during the game against brazil and vini was also playing at that moment. It can be said that if the chance owned by city to win the game is decreasing a little bit, but im still preferring to take manchester city instead of real madrid to win the game soon. We have stones and de bruyne. 

Haaland is fully ready to face Real Madrid again after destroying them last season. The only main threat for Real Madrid was Vini. I think Bellingham is nothing against Madrid's defensive line.
We have ake at defense and rodri who play as defensive midfielder.

It is very likely that this will happen. One advantage is that Real Madrid will play at home and get greater support from their guests. If you look at the past, English clubs have had a very difficult time fighting Spanish teams because in several eras in the past, Spanish clubs were said to be very strong. especially Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, because they always subscribe to the Champions League Final, there is a possibility that this match will be 50/50% and it can be said to be a draw because the strength of both clubs is equally strong and plus Man City is the defending champion last season, no It is possible that they will provide fierce resistance in the match even though Man City will come as a guest.

Now that Ancelotti and Guardiola meet again, will Ancelotti be smart enough to know Guardiola's weaknesses?

The two best coaches in the world will face each other. However, neither considers themselves as such. The truth is that Pep and Ancelotti have some curious statistics when facing each other in the Champions League. If in the Premier League, Ancelotti never beat Pep Guardiola when he faced Man City while leading Everton, then in the Champions League, the situation is entirely opposite. And the balance is leaning more towards strategist Ancelotti. Both love football, both have the talent to manage the dressing room and the egos of big names to best promote the qualities of the superstars they have on hand. It is tough to put these two talented coaches on the scale to see who is heavy and who is light because their personalities, football thinking, training methods, and dressing room management are very different.

This match looks very fierce where the strengths of England and Spain meet to play. There is no need to doubt the abilities of these two teams, because they always perform very well in every match they face. However, in my opinion, in this match Real Madrid will really dominate the game, because I think Real Madrid's performance still looks very good and they also maintain consistency in every match. Not only that, Real Madrid is the host for this match and of course it will be very profitable for Real Madrid to play aggressively in attack. However, Real Madrid also has to be wary of attacks from Manchester City, because Manchester City's attackers are very dangerous and their midfielders are also very good at providing passes towards Real Madrid's goal.

What you say is true, but we also have to look at the performance of the two teams in the Champions League match and must be aware that the match in the domestic league will be different from the match in the Champions League. I see that Arsenal did not perform well in the Champions League, even they qualified for the quarter-finals with struggled against the Porto side while Bayern Munich were slightly better
And I think the influence of mentality is also very influential, there is a different mentality between these two teams.
I don't mean to underestimate Arsenal, but I am quite pessimistic that they can produce their best performance in the quarter-final match against Bayern Munich, their mentality is not as good as Bayern Munich's so they will play under pressure which will make them slump.

Yes, it is clear that this international break will be very worrying for coaches, especially if there are important players with long-term injuries, it will thwart their main goal in the title race, several clubs also want their players to return fit and not injured so they can focus on the title hunt in The domestic league will soon reach the end of the season, of course this is very important for a club, especially in the UCL, of course the quarter-finals are not a game round, all clubs will definitely play seriously in this round.

At least they don't lose important players so they can continue to show their best performance and can also win the match so they can advance to the next round, for example Manchester City, maybe Guardiola also wants all the key players and important players to remain in good condition and their performance doesn't drop so they can focus. in the hunt for the domestic league and also the UCL this season, because this is an important match and this title will also be the target of every club that has qualified for the quarter-finals at this time.

Arsenal can take advantage of this inconsistency to control the game, plus coach Tuchel incompatibility with Bayern Munich players is becoming increasingly clear, especially after Bayern Munich decision to fire him at the end of this season and the latest news regarding Xabi Alonso agreement to become Tuchel's replacement. However for now Arsenal also need to be careful, their schedule in the Premier League is quite busy and they have to prepare themselves against Man City, Luton Town and Brighton. In my opinion, Arteta challenge against Bayern Munich will really drain the energy of his players who are required to maintain their health and avoid injury. Against Man City is also the most decisive match for Arsenal in order to maintain their position at the top of the standings. We'll see if Arteta succeeds in getting through this challenge with maximum results, because playing against Bayern Munich without full strength would be very risky.

Maybe what differentiates these two teams in the Champions League is the winning mentality and here Bayern Munich has that. We know that Arsenal seems helpless to qualify for the quarterfinals and they have to go through a tough match against Porto. But fortunately they were still able to escape and if they didn't it would give rise to bad sentiments towards them. Perhaps there are quite a few who have high hopes for Arsenal because they have succeeded in developing an ideal squad under Mikel Arteta and this must be realized at least until the higher stages.

Therefore, even now, these expectations will still adorn the competition in this competition and Arsenal must not underestimate everyone's faith in them. Maybe even if they are eliminated, they will at least give a stunning performance against Bayern Munich instead of losing very easily like in the past.

Arsenal consistency in the Premier League has increased their bargaining value in the Champions League. It cannot be denied that Arsenal current performance is much better than last season. Bayern Munchen showed something different in the Bundesliga, Tuchel squad had been thrown off the trophy hunt path, this is what underlies many people perception of why Arsenal has the opportunity to advance to the semifinals. On paper, Bayern Munchen certainly has a reputation and mentality above Arsenal, but they cannot necessarily beat Arsenal easily. In short, to be fair we have to say that both of them have a chance to beat each other.

On the other hand, if you look at the winning presentation shown, Arsenal are more favored to win in the first leg, I think that's natural because the match will be held at the Emirates. If you want to bet on this match, I think you have to be careful and considerate, because Bayern Munchen is not a mediocre team that has problems with away games. It would be very impressive if Arsenal were able to win in the first leg, and we will see Bayern Munchen turn things around again at the Allianz Arena in the second leg.

To be honest, I don't see the progress experienced by Arsenal, but in my opinion, conditions like this are the same as last season, there has been no change whatsoever except in the UCL, Arsenal have had a lot of changes because actually Arsenal was lucky to get an opponent that wasn't too difficult, but after entering the last 8 and in That's when Arsenal had to give up losing to Munich.
Without having to delve into the differences between these two teams, of course Munich's chances of qualifying are very big, but Arsenal's chances of beating Munich are very small and there is almost no chance whatsoever.

This season the strengths of these two teams are slightly different compared to previous seasons. Arsenal was able to perform optimally in the EPL and also managed to advance to the quarter-finals of the UCL, while Bayern Munich dropped too many points in the Bundesliga which made it difficult for them to defend their title. Bayern Munich can focus more on this match after the chance of winning the Bundesliga Trophy is almost closed, the UCL is the only prestigious trophy that Bayern Munich still has a chance of winning this season.

Player injuries very often occur due to international breaks, these clubs really hope that their players can return ready to play in important matches. Losing several important players is very detrimental to the club, the coach will also have a headache in compiling the starting XI due to the lack of ammunition he has.