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I can’t argue that the match with Arsenal against Porto was a really tough match, but I think that is how that match should be because the first leg was in Porto House, so Arsenal played an away match, and it is not a new thing that a team is strong in their home, but we all see how it turns out for them in the second leg.

Arsenal has been playing very well this season and I was surprised that they lost against Porto in the first leg of the round of 16 but it was a well deserved victory that arsenal got to move on to the next round. it's unlucky that they will have to play Bayern Munich for the quarter finals. Arsenal is playing very well but Bayern Munich is going to win them. Arsenal has an advantage as they'll playing at home first therefore they should use that and win the game with a high number of goals because Bayern Munich are goal machine and they won't be shy to score you a lot of goals. This match is going to be a good match to watch because Arsenal has alot of things to proven in this game to show everybody's that they have what it takes to becomes the champion of Europe.

Arsenal progress in this season is impressive with they are learning from their mistakes and things are going into their way for the having better results even they lost in first leg against Porto due to their overconfidence strategy, but they were good in second leg and have win which give them spot into quarterfinal after years now they are doing their best for having spot into last four but for this Bayern Munich is standing between them and their chances for the last four and it's surely going to be challenging for them to win against them Harry Kane is also looking for his first trophy after move to Bayern Munich but can they beat Arsenal and have spot into last four, or they have to wait for the another season it's going to be interesting because we are surely going to watch one of the best games between two top teams of the UEFA top leagues.

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I'm not surprised at all that Arsenal is a favourite against Bayern. Arsenal's stats in the Champions League group stage look better than Bayern's. Although Bayern has earned 16 points, and Arsenal 13, I think the German team had an easier group. In terms of average goals per game scored and lost, the stats suggest Arsenal is better in both offence and defence:
Arsenal: 2.7 scored and 0.7 lost
Bayern: 2.0 scored and 1.0 lost

The same stats for league games are at a similar level, but it's hard to disagree that the Premier League is much stronger than the Bundesliga.

That being said, it's a bit concerning that Arsenal struggled to get past Porto, as they needed a penalty shootout to go through, and I think Bayern is a better team than Porto.

I also think Arsenal is naturally the favorite. Because however, currently Arsenal is also ranked at the top of the Premier League, even above Man City. But in the UCL I could probably consider Arsenal and Bayern equal. But if I had to choose who to bet on then I would choose Arsenal. Even though H.Kane and his friends could destroy Arsenal's defense, I am sure that Arsenal has an attack line that can destroy Bayern's defense, which is actually not as strong as Porto. Meanwhile, Arsenal has a defense that is almost on par with Porto so I feel Arsenal deserve to be favourites.

Are you really serious? You think arsenal can destroy Bayern Munich? Noo, I really don't think so, in the uefa champions league, quality and experience is the most important thing needed to have a shot at glory, though this arsenal team have the quality, but they don't have experience needed to execute that, just look at how they struggled against fc Porto due to lack of experience, and I think that will actually cost them in this upcoming encounter between them and Bayern Munich.

If we consider the historical duel between Arsenal and Bayern Munich, and it's clear that Munich was totally dominating the match against Arsenal, we must think realistically about the fact that the composition between the two clubs was totally different.

Bayern Munich has a new face and arsenal. This makes the result unpredictable. It's because I'm not really sure which to pick this time. The power comparison between both of clubs are totally different. I think that the first leg is gonna end with draw or arsenal win with narrow score against bayern munich.

It needs a miracle for arsenal to make it happen.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on March 26, 2024, 05:51:13 AM

If you look at what happened in the past, the competition between Bayern Munich and Arsenal was not that fierce because Arsenal did not always perform well on the Champions League stage, unlike Bayern Munich and even in the last meeting the two Bayern Munich teams were able to beat Arsenal easily.
Even though this season is different, if you look at the overall performance of the two teams in the Champions League match, Bayern Munich is much better than Arsenal.

I think several player injuries due to the international break will not have a significant impact because teams like Bayern Munich and Arsenal have quite capable back-up players and whatever the situation, the match between these two teams will be quite interesting.

Arsenal have a bad record when it comes to dealing with Bayern Munich so far, as you said, although this season is different because Arsenal have performed better than Bayern Munich in the league, but still the mentality possessed by Bayern Munich in the Champions League has not changed until now, in the round of 16 match then we can make a benchmark how the mentality possessed by Bayern Munich continues to strengthen as they continue Underestimated, so far Bayern Munich and Arsenal have met as many as 12 meetings, Bayern Munich appeared mighty by winning 7 times, 2 draws and 3 losses against Arsenal.

That's why I think this season it's no different from the previous season and it will be difficult for Arsenal to beat Bayern Munich even though Munich are missing some main players, because Bayern Munich has a good reserve squad, but I think it's different with Arsenal, because if you look so far, Arsenal reserve players don't have a strong mentality and are as good as their main players and that's why Arteta often fielded their players main thing in the league even when facing small teams.

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Quote from: Frankolala on March 26, 2024, 06:05:24 AM

Real Madrid should be able to win City because they can strike from anywhere, and anybody can score the goal. Their goal scoring is not relied on only some particular players, which gives them more advantage in the match.

Mancity can also do the same thing. In terms of team uniformity, I rate Mancity better than Real Madrid. They are facing instability in the defense. I predict this match will be decided by the shining moment of a specific individual, when in terms of playing style and fighting style both teams are almost equal. In terms of head-to-head achievements between the two teams since Man city returned to the UCL arena, the results are quite balanced when Mancity won 4 matches, lost 3 matches and drew 3 matches. This promises to be a thoughtful and calculating match between two champions.

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But, with this all we have to wait for the update about few players those are having injuries into last friendly international games which are surely going to have big impact on these games as well because missing of any player is going to be problem for the team but sadly right now we have updated just news few players are having injuries and things are going to be for these giant clubs which are now looking for the progress.

I completely agree with you concerning we having one of the best games with teams that have quality and experience in the next phase of the champions League, a lot of people have keenly been waiting for the champions league to resume action. This is the champions League and I wouldn't want to write of anybody, but from my own personal analysis of Bayern Munich performance both in the champions league and their domestic league which they are are currently second place, I don't think they stand a chance to win the champions league this season, tactically they've not been too impressive as others seasons.

I consider all the teams that qualify this season to be the best teams who will definitely show very entertaining games. All the matches will be like the Final and I am sure that the opportunity each one has is a big gamble. Now every team has the potential to provide unexpected things, including opponents who are considered underdogs, such as Arsenal against Bayern Munich, not an easy result to predict. These two teams are in favorable conditions in their respective leagues, so don't be surprised if Arsenal can make it difficult for Bayern Munich to qualify. Hopefully the international break will not take its toll, because we hope that when we face UCL we will be in optimal conditions for betting.

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You are correct, but when you examine both teams and conduct a thorough comparison, you will be able to conclude that they are not so far apart that one is clearly superior to the other in terms of strength and who will advance from this stage. Real Madrid and Manchester City have been identified as two of the top teams to win the title this season, but to our surprise, they must now face each other to determine who is the better team. To me, both can showcase their best in this match, and the better team will have success and will qualify for the next round of the competition, as I see them both on an even level.

The performance of the two clubs is currently 50/50 equally outperforming in their respective leagues including the UCL.
I see both teams being very strong at home as their advantage will remain there, if Real Madrid miss the first leg then it will be difficult to decide the second leg so I believe Real Madrid will win the first leg ensuring the aggregate goals.
Yes I know that Real Madrid and Man City will still be on the same level, Real Madrid have beaten Man City and Man City have beaten Real Madrid and they now meet earlier in the 1/4.

Both teams are currently playing quality soccer and things are well under control for them, but prediction is not easy who is going to win this round even mostly are feeling Manchester City is favourite, but Real Madrid is also doing impressive work even they have serious injuries concern recently first leg is going to be important for the qualification with most chances Real Madrid will try their best for having good result because their home record is good in all competitions and Manchester City is also a team which can perform good in all conditions.

As we are reading most of the soccer pundits are feeling this is going to be the final of the Champions League before real final, so this is going to be a fierce match which will be surely match of this round as well who is winning it's not clear.

Yes, this is a match that should be in the Final. Real Madrid and Manchester City are currently two elite teams that always play beautiful football. Of course, as a football fan, I don't get bored watching these two teams play. It is difficult to predict who will be the best and qualify for the semifinals. Real Madrid may be at a huge disadvantage due to the injury to Thibaut Courtois, the Belgian goalkeeper is known as a very agile goalkeeper and is able to perform superiorly between the sticks. Ancelotti might replace him with Kepa but his quality is very far compared to Courtois. Apart from that, El Real's defense has also declined slightly, this should be a serious concern for the Italian Allenatore.

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I also think that both teams will score goals, and it is obvious that this is one of the most likely possibilities in the betting. Both Bayern Munich and Arsenal have high offensive power. In this matchup, the players who are lucky and on their day will win the match. If it happens on Harry Kane's day, Bayern will even have the advantage of going on a tour while going to England.

This is not about the tour in the next match, on the contrary, this match is a match where Harry Kane can prove that he is still sharp in scoring goals against opponents, hosting Arsenal in the Champions League Quarter-finals means Harry Kane will do it. not awkward and won't worry about his mentality, especially since Arsenal was his enemy when he was still in the Tottenham uniform, so in my opinion, in the next match, Harry Kane is likely to be able to make Arsenal upset with Harry Kane. 100% fit performance in the next match, because there are several options for Arsenal in this match because Arsenal must really maintain the stamina of their players in maintaining the points they have in the domestic league, therefore in the next match Arsenal will not be too determined to win in the Champions League Quarterfinals.

We are going to have one of the best game with both competitive teams with quality offensive going to face each other, and we have competition between experience and quality which is going to decide who is going to progress with Arsenal is having good chance after years to spot them into last four and Bayern Munich which is currently having 2nd spot in Bundesliga with only fair chance of trophy is here will give their best for the promotion into last four.

But, with this all we have to wait for the update about few players those are having injuries into last friendly international games which are surely going to have big impact on these games as well because missing of any player is going to be problem for the team but sadly right now we have updated just news few players are having injuries and things are going to be for these giant clubs which are now looking for the progress.

I completely agree with you concerning we having one of the best games with teams that have quality and experience in the next phase of the champions League, a lot of people have keenly been waiting for the champions league to resume action. This is the champions League and I wouldn't want to write of anybody, but from my own personal analysis of Bayern Munich performance both in the champions league and their domestic league which they are are currently second place, I don't think they stand a chance to win the champions league this season, tactically they've not been too impressive as others seasons.

Talking about international break and players always returning back to the club side with injuries after international break, if I can remember vividly, I think it either Jose mourinho or Jürgen klopp that was bitterly complaining about not liking international break, because it always leaves his team with players coming back with injuries, most times the key players in the team are usually the victims. The truth is that, nothing can be done about it, because you cannot stop playing from representing their countries especially on international duties, as a coach you can just manage the situation with the few players you might have at hand.

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We are going to have one of the best game with both competitive teams with quality offensive going to face each other, and we have competition between experience and quality which is going to decide who is going to progress with Arsenal is having good chance after years to spot them into last four and Bayern Munich which is currently having 2nd spot in Bundesliga with only fair chance of trophy is here will give their best for the promotion into last four.

But, with this all we have to wait for the update about few players those are having injuries into last friendly international games which are surely going to have big impact on these games as well because missing of any player is going to be problem for the team but sadly right now we have updated just news few players are having injuries and things are going to be for these giant clubs which are now looking for the progress.

If you look at what happened in the past, the competition between Bayern Munich and Arsenal was not that fierce because Arsenal did not always perform well on the Champions League stage, unlike Bayern Munich and even in the last meeting the two Bayern Munich teams were able to beat Arsenal easily.
Even though this season is different, if you look at the overall performance of the two teams in the Champions League match, Bayern Munich is much better than Arsenal.

I think several player injuries due to the international break will not have a significant impact because teams like Bayern Munich and Arsenal have quite capable back-up players and whatever the situation, the match between these two teams will be quite interesting.

I also share the same sentiment as you bro, people don't actually know that the uefa champions league is totally different from the English premier league, let's take a look at the performance of arsenal in the premier league, they are actually fantastic, they have been putting teams away easily, but in the uefa champions league, that's not the case here, they are not as free flowing and as dominant in their play as they are in the premier league, and to me it all boils down to lack of experience, which to me is really going to cost them this match against Bayern Munich, but if you look at Bayern Munich, they have really improved of late and their head to head record against arsenal is better, so I still think they are going to knock arsenal out of this year champions league.

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Quote from: Frankolala on March 26, 2024, 06:05:24 AM

Both team have their own weaknesses, but both teams are strong enough to fight till the end of 90mins to see who will take advantage of the other and win the match. I will not place my bet on such match, because the outcome is unpredictable for now. Maybe the match day is drawing closer, there might be a problem in one of the teams that can make the match predictable.

Real Madrid should be able to win City because they can strike from anywhere, and anybody can score the goal. Their goal scoring is not relied on only some particular players, which gives them more advantage in the match.

if you believe Man City will qualify for the semi finals, maybe you would be better off betting on the second leg, but if you believe Real Madrid, maybe you will definitely bet on the first leg, but if you look at my predictions, it looks like you are a little more confident if Man City will qualify.
but personally, as a Real Madrid fan, I will bet on the first leg even though last season Madrid only got bad results, but this time I believe that Ancelotti already knows the right strategy to break into Man City goal.
It may be very high risk but there is no harm in betting a small amount to support your favorite team or also make a profit if Madrid wins.
BTW, actually it is very difficult to predict because these two teams have almost the same performance in terms of attack and defense, it's just that my confidence in Real Madrid is still very large.

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You are correct, but when you examine both teams and conduct a thorough comparison, you will be able to conclude that they are not so far apart that one is clearly superior to the other in terms of strength and who will advance from this stage. Real Madrid and Manchester City have been identified as two of the top teams to win the title this season, but to our surprise, they must now face each other to determine who is the better team. To me, both can showcase their best in this match, and the better team will have success and will qualify for the next round of the competition, as I see them both on an even level.

The performance of the two clubs is currently 50/50 equally outperforming in their respective leagues including the UCL.
I see both teams being very strong at home as their advantage will remain there, if Real Madrid miss the first leg then it will be difficult to decide the second leg so I believe Real Madrid will win the first leg ensuring the aggregate goals.
Yes I know that Real Madrid and Man City will still be on the same level, Real Madrid have beaten Man City and Man City have beaten Real Madrid and they now meet earlier in the 1/4.

Both teams are currently playing quality soccer and things are well under control for them, but prediction is not easy who is going to win this round even mostly are feeling Manchester City is favourite, but Real Madrid is also doing impressive work even they have serious injuries concern recently first leg is going to be important for the qualification with most chances Real Madrid will try their best for having good result because their home record is good in all competitions and Manchester City is also a team which can perform good in all conditions.

As we are reading most of the soccer pundits are feeling this is going to be the final of the Champions League before real final, so this is going to be a fierce match which will be surely match of this round as well who is winning it's not clear.

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Last season, Manchester City won over Real Madrid and went straightly to their fist Champions League title. It is their first title in history and in total Champions League titles, Manchester City can not compare to Real Madrid but in this season, they are defending their title and want to repeat success of Real Madrid. Defending a title in Champions League is very challenging task and in history, only Real Madrid succeeded so far.

Manchester City's first UEFA Champions League final was against Chelsea, and they lost to Chelsea. Last season, Manchester City was better than Real Madrid, which made Manchester City easily beat Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League. Manchester City will find it difficult to win against Real Madrid in this season's UEFA Champions League because Real Madrid is more consistent than Manchester City this season.

You are correct, but when you examine both teams and conduct a thorough comparison, you will be able to conclude that they are not so far apart that one is clearly superior to the other in terms of strength and who will advance from this stage. Real Madrid and Manchester City have been identified as two of the top teams to win the title this season, but to our surprise, they must now face each other to determine who is the better team. To me, both can showcase their best in this match, and the better team will have success and will qualify for the next round of the competition, as I see them both on an even level.

I agree with you that Real Madrid and Manchester City are on the same level this season. If you look at Manchester City's recent performances in the Premier League, you will find out that if Haaland and Foden fail to score for Manchester City, they find it hard to win their match. I see this as an advantage for Real Madrid against Manchester City in the UEFA Champions League competition because Real Madrid does not depend on any players to score goals.

Both team have their own weaknesses, but both teams are strong enough to fight till the end of 90mins to see who will take advantage of the other and win the match. I will not place my bet on such match, because the outcome is unpredictable for now. Maybe the match day is drawing closer, there might be a problem in one of the teams that can make the match predictable.

Real Madrid should be able to win City because they can strike from anywhere, and anybody can score the goal. Their goal scoring is not relied on only some particular players, which gives them more advantage in the match.

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Quote from: wiss19 on March 26, 2024, 05:18:52 AM

We are going to have one of the best game with both competitive teams with quality offensive going to face each other, and we have competition between experience and quality which is going to decide who is going to progress with Arsenal is having good chance after years to spot them into last four and Bayern Munich which is currently having 2nd spot in Bundesliga with only fair chance of trophy is here will give their best for the promotion into last four.

But, with this all we have to wait for the update about few players those are having injuries into last friendly international games which are surely going to have big impact on these games as well because missing of any player is going to be problem for the team but sadly right now we have updated just news few players are having injuries and things are going to be for these giant clubs which are now looking for the progress.

If you look at what happened in the past, the competition between Bayern Munich and Arsenal was not that fierce because Arsenal did not always perform well on the Champions League stage, unlike Bayern Munich and even in the last meeting the two Bayern Munich teams were able to beat Arsenal easily.
Even though this season is different, if you look at the overall performance of the two teams in the Champions League match, Bayern Munich is much better than Arsenal.

I think several player injuries due to the international break will not have a significant impact because teams like Bayern Munich and Arsenal have quite capable back-up players and whatever the situation, the match between these two teams will be quite interesting.

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The time Arsenal has to face Bayern Munich is very limited, because before facing Bayern Munich in the UCL there are 3 tough matches and it will drain the players energy. So I'm quite worried if Arteta has difficulty making many rotations. At the end of the month against Man City, you definitely need a solid composition of players and of course the main squad must be deployed. The next 2 matches are no less important because they are an opportunity to get 3 points and Arteta cannot underestimate his opponent.

So based on a fairly busy schedule, I wouldn't expect much if even a draw against Bayern Munich would be good enough. However the issue of dark history is also a shadow for Arsenal players, as if Bayern Munich will use it to break the spirit of their opponents.

Actually with the look of things Arsenal may likely be kicked out by Bayern Munich on the champions League quarters finals because Bayern Munich are always more favourable than Arsenal on champions league that's why they have more good history on champions league than Arsenal, although is been a while Bayern Munich meet Arsenal but I think Bayern Munich has more opportunity over Arsenal on that match and also considering the fact that champions league is not like premier League that are more easy for Arsenal to perform really good but in champions league the matches are mostly difficult because all the clubs are very strong, although I'm not disputing the fact that Arsenal is not in there good form but the truth is that Bayern Munich is a very consistent team when it comes to the champions League matches and also if you you check there last meeting with Liverpool you will see how good Bayern Munich is and beating Liverpool at the end, so if bayern Munich could perform that good it may likely not going to take much time for them to win Arsenal. So I would just say that Arsenal should focus more on there premier League matches so that there attention will not be divided.

Pardon me, if I say that this is the last stage that Arsenal will reach in the Champions League. Arsenal are not good when it comes to champions league matches compared to Bayern Munich, which makes me doubt that Arsenal would be able to win Munich.

Of course that's true because we all know that right from the beginning Arsenal has not been a favourite club for the champions League that's why they always struggle whenever they come to the champions League, however from record Arsenal has not won any champions league since they started, though they have good performance but in terms of champions league there performance is not enough because champions is were all the experience and quality players is and Arsenal are mostly very young and talented players but doesn't have champions league experience, also one thing they most know is that champions league can never be compared with premier League because premier League are mostly easy to play than the champions League that's why it may likely be very difficult for Arsenal to perform on this champions league the way they normally do on the premier League that's why I believe that Bayern Munich can easily win them because Bayern Munich has been well known as champions League favourite with a lot of quality and more experience players.

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I also think that both teams will score goals, and it is obvious that this is one of the most likely possibilities in the betting. Both Bayern Munich and Arsenal have high offensive power. In this matchup, the players who are lucky and on their day will win the match. If it happens on Harry Kane's day, Bayern will even have the advantage of going on a tour while going to England.

This is not about the tour in the next match, on the contrary, this match is a match where Harry Kane can prove that he is still sharp in scoring goals against opponents, hosting Arsenal in the Champions League Quarter-finals means Harry Kane will do it. not awkward and won't worry about his mentality, especially since Arsenal was his enemy when he was still in the Tottenham uniform, so in my opinion, in the next match, Harry Kane is likely to be able to make Arsenal upset with Harry Kane. 100% fit performance in the next match, because there are several options for Arsenal in this match because Arsenal must really maintain the stamina of their players in maintaining the points they have in the domestic league, therefore in the next match Arsenal will not be too determined to win in the Champions League Quarterfinals.

We are going to have one of the best game with both competitive teams with quality offensive going to face each other, and we have competition between experience and quality which is going to decide who is going to progress with Arsenal is having good chance after years to spot them into last four and Bayern Munich which is currently having 2nd spot in Bundesliga with only fair chance of trophy is here will give their best for the promotion into last four.

But, with this all we have to wait for the update about few players those are having injuries into last friendly international games which are surely going to have big impact on these games as well because missing of any player is going to be problem for the team but sadly right now we have updated just news few players are having injuries and things are going to be for these giant clubs which are now looking for the progress.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 25, 2024, 05:38:51 PM

I'm not surprised at all that Arsenal is a favourite against Bayern. Arsenal's stats in the Champions League group stage look better than Bayern's. Although Bayern has earned 16 points, and Arsenal 13, I think the German team had an easier group. In terms of average goals per game scored and lost, the stats suggest Arsenal is better in both offence and defence:
Arsenal: 2.7 scored and 0.7 lost
Bayern: 2.0 scored and 1.0 lost

The same stats for league games are at a similar level, but it's hard to disagree that the Premier League is much stronger than the Bundesliga.

That being said, it's a bit concerning that Arsenal struggled to get past Porto, as they needed a penalty shootout to go through, and I think Bayern is a better team than Porto.

In my opinion, Arsenal vs. Bayern Munich is an unpredictable match because Arsenal is playing well this season and will make sure that the result of their defeat by Bayern Munich years ago doesn't happen again. On the other hand, although Bayern Munich's performance this season hasn't been all that great, it has been excellent in the Champions League, which further supports my belief that Bayern Munich is taking the Champions League more seriously than any other league this year.

In my opinion, neither team can win this game because both arsenal and Bayern Munich can score a lot of goals in a single game this season. As a result, we will see which of these two teams is the better scorer. The game will be exciting because Arsenal will want to exact revenge on Bayern Munich for what they did to them in the Champions League, and we will find out who won during play.

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Bayern Munich's performance in the previous season is clearly not the same as this season. Bayern Munich has seriously deformed this season, (...)

What are you even basing this on? They've won 5 out of 6 games in the group stage and had 1 draw. They've won 3-1 aggregate against Lazio and are now in the quarter-finals.
You're probably thinking this just because of the fact they're losing the league to Bayer Leverkusen, currently being 10 points behind. That's true, but it's not about Bayern being weaker than in last season, but it's due to Leverkusen playing exceptionally well.
The average points/game in league games for Bayern is 2.31, in the last season, it was 2.09. If they keep their performance consistent, we should expect them to finish the season with 78 points, while the year ago, they won the league with 71 points.
I think they're doing pretty good.

For me, Bayern Munich this season is bad, indeed the winning average is good but overall it is not good. Many people say Bayern will win against Arsenal like they have done in the past. However, they did not realize that this season Arsenal had developed very rapidly against strong opponents. Arsenal are the only team this season to have beaten all three of last season's European champions. against Man City, 1-0, against Sevilla, 2-0 and 2-1, and against West Ham, 6-0.

Several seasons ago Bayern Munich were great, but not this season. They basically lost in the league to Leverkusen, were knocked out by a non-league team in the DFB Pokal, lost their country's super cup to Leipzig. Meanwhile Arsenal are in first place in their league, knocked out by Liverpool in the FA Cup, winning the Community Shield this season. The first leg will also be held at the Emirates, if Arsenal wins 2-0, 3-0 or 3-1, and Arsenal only needs a draw in the second leg. Arsenal is the best team in attacking and defending simultaneously. This type of play will improve the team to be able to beat Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 25, 2024, 05:38:51 PM

I'm not surprised at all that Arsenal is a favourite against Bayern. Arsenal's stats in the Champions League group stage look better than Bayern's. Although Bayern has earned 16 points, and Arsenal 13, I think the German team had an easier group. In terms of average goals per game scored and lost, the stats suggest Arsenal is better in both offence and defence:
Arsenal: 2.7 scored and 0.7 lost
Bayern: 2.0 scored and 1.0 lost

Do the stats from the group stage really matter in this match? Inter Milan has better stats than Atletico Madrid in the group stage, but Inter lost against Atletico Madrid. It's a surprise to anyone who fully trusts Intermilan to win the game. Bayern played so poorly in the Bundesliga, and it can be considered the worst performance in a decade from Bayern, but it can still potentially win against Arsenal, too. I think the thing that matters a lot is the composition of the squad.

Quote from: pawel7777 on March 25, 2024, 05:38:51 PM

The same stats for league games are at a similar level, but it's hard to disagree that the Premier League is much stronger than the Bundesliga.

True, the arsenal has always very often lost against Bayern, even since a decade ago. it means that if bundesliga team can't be underestimated.

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That being said, it's a bit concerning that Arsenal struggled to get past Porto, as they needed a penalty shootout to go through, and I think Bayern is a better team than Porto.

Bayern is a 1 billion team and it's far stronger than porto. The last time Bayern beat Arsenal was 10-2, as the final aggregate happened in 2016/2017. I think that history will repeat itself again even though the majority of people favor Arsenal, but I think Bayern is still strong enough to beat it.
It's time for Tuchel to prove his worthiness as bayern Munich's coach. Things will not be going so well for arsenal.

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Quote from: Barikui1 on March 26, 2024, 03:00:17 AM

Are you really serious? You think arsenal can destroy Bayern Munich? Noo, I really don't think so, in the uefa champions league, quality and experience is the most important thing needed to have a shot at glory, though this arsenal team have the quality, but they don't have experience needed to execute that, just look at how they struggled against fc Porto due to lack of experience, and I think that will actually cost them in this upcoming encounter between them and Bayern Munich.

Yep, they forgot if Arsenal in Champions League is different, same with Bayern Munich.

Arsenal will be eliminated by Bayern Munich, the first leg Arsenal might win because they will play in their home, but the second leg, there's no mercy for Arsenal. Even Bayern Munich is struggle in Bundesliga, but I don't see they're struggle in Champions League.

Arsenal can only beat mediocre teams like PSG or Barcelona, not Bayern Munich.

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I also think Arsenal is naturally the favorite. Because however, currently Arsenal is also ranked at the top of the Premier League, even above Man City. But in the UCL I could probably consider Arsenal and Bayern equal. But if I had to choose who to bet on then I would choose Arsenal. Even though H.Kane and his friends could destroy Arsenal's defense, I am sure that Arsenal has an attack line that can destroy Bayern's defense, which is actually not as strong as Porto. Meanwhile, Arsenal has a defense that is almost on par with Porto so I feel Arsenal deserve to be favourites.

Are you really serious? You think arsenal can destroy Bayern Munich? Noo, I really don't think so, in the uefa champions league, quality and experience is the most important thing needed to have a shot at glory, though this arsenal team have the quality, but they don't have experience needed to execute that, just look at how they struggled against fc Porto due to lack of experience, and I think that will actually cost them in this upcoming encounter between them and Bayern Munich.

Maybe I agree with Mr Uruhara because I think Bayern and Arsenal are equal in the Champions League. But I probably wouldn't favorite Arsenal. Because I have seen how Bayern has had a rapid improvement in the last few weeks in the Bundesliga. They were able to score a lot of goals in just 2 matches. Which indicates that there has been a big change in Bayern's attack line which has suddenly become more productive. But I don't want to underestimate Arsenal who had difficulty beating Porto. Because Porto's defense is highly recognized for its strength. Even in the Portuguese League you can see that even though they are ranked 3rd, they have conceded the fewest goals during this season in the Portuguese League. So it is very natural that Arsenal had difficulty scoring goals against Porto.
But I might also agree with you, Mr Barikui1, that the level of experience of these two teams is clearly different. And Bayern could actually be superior based on their experience. It's just that in terms of quality of play, perhaps Arsenal and Bayern are quite equal. But experience is what differentiates their level. But Arteta is a coach who is very quick to adapt so maybe he can handle it even with minimal experience. But I'm still quite confused about which team to favourite. Because we know that last season there were many surprising results where the top team was eliminated first.

The debate of using experience to disqualify Arsenal's ability to beat Bayern Munich in this level of champions league is just so baffling and inexcusable to me. It's not as though this is the first time arsenal are coming to the champions league or getting to this stage in the champions league so what's the experience that's missing. Better still, they have been playing and winning better teams with sturd defence than that of Bayern all through this champions league season because they have a forcing attack that can break through any defence and Bayern's is of no difference. The quality of players we have in Bayern are nothing of a difference with that of Arsenal, what I think every fan is focusing on is just in the team's names how familiar it is when it comes to the champions league competition.

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Quote from: Barikui1 on March 26, 2024, 03:00:17 AM

Are you really serious? You think arsenal can destroy Bayern Munich? Noo, I really don't think so, in the uefa champions league, quality and experience is the most important thing needed to have a shot at glory, though this arsenal team have the quality, but they don't have experience needed to execute that, just look at how they struggled against fc Porto due to lack of experience, and I think that will actually cost them in this upcoming encounter between them and Bayern Munich.

This is impossible, Arsenal will not be able to do anything terrible to Bayern. I don’t know if it’s possible to compare the confrontation with Porto here, because Porto is actually a very difficult team, and the main difficulty is that they don’t allow the opponent to realize anything, but in fact, Bayern is an even more difficult opponent, and unlike In Porto they will create more pressure on the Arsenal goal.

The first game will be at the Emirates, I just looked at the odds and was a little surprised, in the first match we have 2.05 for Arsenal to win and 3.7 for Bayern to win. Maybe it’s logical if Tuchel goes to London for a draw, and perhaps the match with Lazio was taken into account, I don’t know, Arsenal is of course a strong team, but Bayern is stronger.

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