Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 421. (Read 141787 times)

Bayern Munich's quality has become a bit forgotten due to poor performances in several Bundesliga matches, which is quite reasonable even though in fact different competitions can have different performances and that will affect the results in the future.
In the champions league they are still one of the favorites even though their position has decreased, in the group phase the bookies put Bayern Munich as the second favorite to become champions but after entering the round of 16 they dropped to only fourth place and are not even more favorites than Arsenal




So performances in other competitions will also influence the assessment of Bayern Munich, but after entering the quarter-finals the assessment will be different again and I am still quite confident that Bayern will go to the quarter-finals because Lazio is only one goal ahead of Bayern and it shouldn't be a difficult thing for Bayern to catch to achieved victory by more than two goals

We can't judge Barcelona as a mediocre club when they lost Messi because after all Barcelona is a club that has a lot of achievements and even now they are still able to compete in La Liga and the European League, the problems that are happening at Barcelona at the moment can't seem to be linked to Messi because It is indeed the financial factor that caused Barcelona to lose Messi, not the other way around, if Barcelona were not experiencing bad financial problems like now then I am quite sure that Messi would still be with Barcelona and maybe he would even retire at Camp Nou.

I agree with what you said about the solution to improve Barcelona at this time by switching to new ownership then maybe we will be able to see Barcelona rise again, but unfortunately the club owner and management are reluctant to sell Barcelona and prefer to solve their problems by reducing the salaries of players, management and even selling their star players to other clubs to at least cover their financial problems,With this decision from management remaining adamant, of course Barcelona is even more shackled and will only continue to decline for the next few seasons.

What Bayern Munich is experiencing this season is related to Tuchel's coaching because everyone can probably compare Bayern Munich's performance last season with the performance shown by Bayern Munich this season. So Bayern Munich has the possibility of not getting any big trophies this season and also including small trophies in their own local league such as the DFL Super Cup. This is certainly very sad for Bayern Munich because previously Bayern Munich was always a candidate to win, both in the Champions League and in the Bundesliga.

The initial doubts directed at Bayern started when they lost to Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. And then it got worse again after losing to Lazio in the last first leg in the UCL Round of 16. And not just that. Because after losing to Lazio it turned out that Bayern also lost to VfL Bochum. And the series of defeats experienced by Bayern started with the big defeat they suffered when they faced Leverkusen with a score of 3-0. And I think this really weakens the mentality of the players in the Bayern squad. So they also lost to Lazio and Bochum.

But I personally can't blame their head coach, Tuchel. Because Tuchel is actually a great coach who also led Chelsea to win the Champions League in 2020/2021. So I also understand the reason behind why Bayern was in a hurry to replace their coach with Tuchel. It's just that sometimes even great coaches can't always be great. They are also humans who have many loopholes in the strategies they create. And I think Bayern will still go further in the UCL. but yeah, I'm also not sure they will be challengers for the UCL title.

Barcelona is a mediocre club after Messi left, there's no chance anymore for Barcelona to win either Champions League or Europa League, the best they can get is domestic league or cheese burger league. Barcelona need to sell their club to rich owner first, then they can rebuilt their club and able to compete with the top clubs.

Barcelona need to be happy if they didn't get eliminated in the quarter final match.

I have to say Bayern Munich lost everything this season, not because they performed badly because they also still performed well, it's just that their performances were not as good as the previous season. Many say this happened because of the decision of Bayern Munich who immediately fired Nagelsmann and indirectly blamed Thomas Tuchel who was considered stuttering to bring Bayern Munich to a better direction. Yes it becomes something natural when some people see that because they see who is in the coaching chair this season.
Xabi is on Bayern Munich radar for the next time, it is natural that they are very interested in Xabi because at Leverkusen he showed something very extraordinary after he joined since last season. With a composition of plyers who were not too luxurious he managed to steal a lot of atention for his hard work. apart from Bayern Munich, Liverpool are also rumored to be interested in recruiting Xabi, Liverpool will certainly no longer be with Jurgen Klop after he said he was resigning from the Liverpool coaching chair and said he wanted to leave.

The offials took very big gambling by signed tuche at the middle of season. That's the biggest mistake that has ever made by bayern's officials. I was also feeling very disappointed after that news had been published. Naglesmann was still at holiday with his family at that gime and bayern took very risky decision that made club bottled two trophies at the same time.
It would be three trophies if bayern was. not able winning bundesliga caused by it was not lucky enough. The club should have learned a lot from the last season. Recruiting the good manager is a must and xabi alonso shall become the priority target for bayern munich.

I do support club to approach him then get him from leverkusen as a part of preparation for the upcoming seaosn. If leverkusen will win the competition and that's not a problem.
Getting xabi alonsi is a must for the club caused by he was the only factor that was changing leverkusen a lot. I would not expect leverkusen to play like this without even having xabi alonso as its appointment.

Bayern is not as good as previuos seasons. It proves that bought kane was not solving the problem owned by bayern. Kane is not also solution for the forwarders of club. I hope new coach will able to handle the club even better.

The only solution for bayern to get alonso from leverkusen.

Bayern Munich's name is increasingly fading and as we know, this all happened due to the failures they made in several previous matches. Everyone started criticizing him and directed all the responsibility to Thomas Tuchel. I think it is only natural that their current coach is the person most responsible and all parties are starting to doubt his performance as Bayern Munich coach any further.

The closest thing at the moment is that Bayern Munich will almost certainly lose their chance to win the Champions League and if later in the second leg they still can't win against Lazio at home and that will only worsen Bayern Munich's image this season. I know it's not easy to carry out a tough task in a big team, but Thomas Tuchel is also not a new coach in the world of football and he has managed several big teams before. Even though Bayern Munich will qualify for the quarterfinals of the Champions League, the challenge is not over yet and instead they will face much stronger opponents and that's where everyone will look seriously at their performance.

The spirit and form of Bayern's players cannot seem to get back on track, with Tuchel counting down the day of his departure. And the management board does not trust any potential interim manager to do a better job than Tuchel between now and the end of the season.  So, the management will still keep Tuchel until the end of the season. Perhaps they also want to avoid the mistakes of last season: Sacking Nagelsmann at the end of March. After that, Bayern, under Tuchel, had an even worse record. Show that they are serious about finding a coach. Bayern clearly wants to join the race for Alonso this summer. But now Tuchel's teachers and students must also try their best for the rest of the season. Despite the 0-1 loss to Lazio in the first leg of the 1/8 round of the Champions League, I still believe they are still one of the top candidates. They still have a chance at UCL. And the Bundesliga runner-up isn't too bad.

Of course because Tuchel has gestured by carrying a suitcase while on the sidelines against Leipzig. For Xabi will he leave? If he leaves, I think he will bring some Leverkusen players. With so much money, Bayern Munich can always buy good players in one league. I remember they bought Dortmund stars a lot and managed to continue to dominate the Bundesliga. Only this season Leverkusen can compete with Bayern Munich. Xabi made the team not because of a big name, but he gave clear work instructions. So that Leverkusen's current players are playing according to his wishes. 

The mistakes that have been made by the management of Bayern Munich may have to be paid dearly and there is no strong reason for them to fire Nagelsmann and it is clear that it is a mistake that has been made by the management of the Bayern team.
For Tauchel, the team management has given quite a lot of processing time, but Tauchel doesn't seem to be able to make the Bayern team's performance much better, quite the opposite.

If you look at the performance and what has happened at the moment, it is very likely that Bayern will not get any trophies this season, and that is Tauchle's biggest mistake because for the last decade the Bayern team has always been able to get trophies in every season.

For Bayern's chances in the Champions League, I am very pessimistic, maybe they still have the possibility of qualifying from the round of 16 because they only lost by 1 goal against Lazio, but in the future, I doubt Bayern.

Indeed, it was a little strange the decision made by Bayern Munich management at that time, because Bayern Munich's situation was fine when they fired Nagelsmann and replaced him with Thomas Tuchel, in my opinion it was a hasty decision. Even after they did that they were eliminated from the champions league, they also almost lost the Bundesliga title, only they were lucky enough at that time because their competitors failed. This kind of rash decision became a problem for them in the end and now we can see what kind of state they are in. yes it's not bad like most other teams, but it's enough to make them probably lose all the trophies this season.

I think it also has to do with the coach's ability to manage big-name signings. I don't think a coach with a good tactical ability is enough to manage a club like Bayern, unless they change their recruitment strategy and focus on young players like Dortmund, which is unlikely to happen. I don't know how the communication happened before they signed a new coach, but something is clearly wrong if more than two or even three good managers "fails" at Bayern. Not many managers last longer than two seasons iirc[1]. The manager's personality aside, the club should've done better to at least prevent the same thing from happening again. I would not be surprised if Xabi or other promising managers feel the job is too troublesome for them. But hey, who knows what is happening behind the scenes, maybe the pay grade is just too good to pass up.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FC_Bayern_Munich_records_and_statistics

I thought that the officials were not even doing deeply analysis before they were sacking naglesmann out from the club. As you can see that how naglesmann had tried to give the perfect result for the club. During his time at Bayern, the club rarely experienced defeat.
My assumption if bayern's officials were looking for instant winning. Officials maybe thinking it can be achieved after they saw how successfuly tuchel on chelsea, we shall also go back to the history of tuchel with chelsea. Tuchel has been recruited at the middle of season but he was able giving chelsea UCL trophy and some additional trophies.

Then this could be the main reason why bayern was signing him at the middle of season without even conisder "trust the process". There were many fans also talked about that weird movement from bayern. Things were not going so well with tuchels caused by he was bottling two trophies.
It was almost three if bayern would not make a stupid mistake at the end of season. Bayern has been announcing to part ways with tuchel at the end of season. We can talk about who is gonna be the new coach for bayern soon.

The management has listed xabi alonso as the main priority to be recruited by the club but no official announcement regarding this from bayern. I believe bayern is still approaching xabi alonso.

This is not a bad strategy because after all, Bayern Munich's fierce resistance is difficult to avoid, especially since Bayern Munich has a capable attack line, in contrast to Lazio, which does not have attackers who are active up front and capable of creating lots of goals. Indeed, the defensive strategy is not a challenging strategy. but at least that's all Lazio can do in this away match because we know what Bayern Munich's strength at home is like. And Lazio was lucky to win in the first leg because otherwise Lazio would have absolutely no chance of advancing to the next round. Lazio's hope in the second leg is to be able to surprise everyone by getting rid of Bayern Munich (but that is a little impossible).

Bayern Munich still won't just give up in the Champions League. Tuchel also won't let his club be eliminated like that, especially against Lazio. This is of course a bit embarrassing for Bayern Munich even though a club like Lazio cannot be underestimated even though they don't appear in the domestic league good and consistent but when in the Champions League Lazio play more focused so as not to be underestimated that's why they play a defensive strategy just look at the statistics of the previous match when Bayern Munich fired shots none of them were on target so Lazio is a little confident at the moment and yes, maybe as you said it would be better if Lazio achieveda result a draw 1:1 and they can qualify for the next round.

Not as strong as the previous season because currently they are under pressure to equalize the aggregate goals conceded when playing in the first leg and Bayern Munich's performance in the Bundesliga has also experienced a decline in performance. Even though Bayern Munich's overall strength is much better than Lazio's, that doesn't mean Bayern Munich can easily get two goals in the second leg if they want to qualify for the next round because I'm sure Lazio will try to play it safe. Lazio must take advantage of the goal they conceded in the first leg and maximize their aggregate advantage to make Bayern Munich's dreams disappear.

Everyone definitely has confidence in Bayern Munich who will qualify for the next round because the second leg match will take place at Bayern Munich's home ground. But if Lazio is able to play better and not rush, then Bayern Munich's dream of progressing to the next round will be dashed.

We really won't be able to know their inside details, we can only get information through the press. However, I think there must be certain instabilities for things like today to happen. We won't know where the real fault is, the coach, the players or the coaching staff? The atmosphere is stuffy in the dressing room and there is a group of players openly opposing Tuchel, which we can clearly see. They deliberately played below their strength to create pressure to push Tuchel away. It's unfortunate for Bayern that these uncertainties occur at the most important stage of the season, they are 8 points behind Leverkusen and entering the UCL qualifying round. Tuchel didn't leave until the end of the season, so if the players continue to protest now, this season will be considered thrown away. And is keeping Tuchel until the end of the season a wrong decision by Bayern's board of directors?
Replacing Mr. Tuchel now with another coach is not a bad decision. There is a saying "changing generals changes fortunes" and many big teams that change coaches mid-season have immediately achieved success. Because with Bayern's level, as long as the players are dedicated, achieving glory is not out of reach.

Thomas Tuchel has more experience than Nagelsman and he is older than Nagelsman too. It is reason Bayern Munich decided to sack Nagelsman and signed with Tuchel but so far, a second half of  last season and this season, Tuchel failed to work with his players and in Bayern Munich, internal conflict still exists that is barrier for them to show their best strength.

A team only can perform its maximum power if a coach and players can be united and work for a same target. It does not exist in Bayern Munich in this season and rumor is their star players want to kick Tuchel out of his coach position. I don't believe in rumor but on field, there are some signals that their star players did not follow Tuchel's requests.

Bayern Munich would be going home trophyless this season because they have failed to put in the energy for brilliant results, instead they keep settling for lesser results. Bayern Munich board are just confused in my eyes, the went ahead without hints. They teamup and appointed Thomas Tuchel because they thought he was better Julian Nagelsmann, unknown to them that Thomas Tuchel will become this very worst manager in the team. Thomas Tuchel have express his motives and have also apologized to the fans regarding the poor stats circulating the team.

Bayern Munich is decreasing their performance in Bundesliga but they look strong enough in UCL. If we learn the stats of Bayern Munich in UCL so far, they still never got a lose during the group stage. Meanwhile Lazio, they already got 2 defeats during the group stage. Bayern just got a defeat in the last match against Lazio. But it is still Leg 1, there is Leg 2 in March 6. And the Leg 1 was held in Lazio home, the Leg 2 will be held in Bayern home. I'm very sure that Bayern Munich will have an extra motivation to win in Leg 2. Sure, Lazio isn't impossible to surprise us. However, I still believe that Bayern Munich will win Leg 2 with 2 goals at least. And they will try to improve their defense, so they will minimize the chance for conceded goals.