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Quote from: ancafe on May 27, 2024, 04:25:56 AM

Real Madrid needs to be wary of Dortmund because we have seen two finals in other competitions end beyond most people's predictions.

Manchester United and Atalanta are motivation for Dortmund because even though they are inferior in quality to their opponents, they managed to surprise them.

Real Madrid with their abundant experience through many Champions League season, many impressive come backs and final matches, are actually know risk if they play carelessly in a final match. Latest shock results from Atalanta and Manchester United are big warnings for Real Madrid before the final match.

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It is possible that a trend like this will be repeated by Dortmund because now they are much more motivated to make new history for the club. If you look at it in terms of quality, experience and readiness, Real Madrid will be quite the favorite, but anything can happen if Real Madrid considers this match easy.

If two teams, Real Madrid and Dortmund play like 10 matches with each other, Real Madrid will get more winnings than Dortmund because they are simply stronger than the opponent. However, we will have only one final match between them and with only one match, Dortmund can make a surprising win and lift the trophy.

Leverkusen is an example, they can be unbeaten in 51 matches but only one match, they lost and also lost Europa League trophy. Both Real Madrid and Dortmund need only one more win to get Champions League trophy, a 15th for Real Madrid while a 2nd for Dortmund in this club history.

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Quote from: Obim34 on May 27, 2024, 04:09:44 AM

It is now scary for Real Madrid, having seen how it keeps favouring the less favourite teams in most league finals, starting from Atalanta Vs Leverkusen to Manchester City Vs Manchester United. The Champions league being one of the biggest league, we might probably get to see nothing different from the others or Madrid might see it as a bigger challenge which requires them to improve in their performance. The odds are now changing, many gamblers are now hesitant on betting Madrid as the winners, even if at last get to secure the title, it won't be an easy victory and would take a lot of composure to do so.

In the final match, anything is still possible to happen and we have just seen the Europa League final match which was full of surprises when Leverkusen, who were the favorites, actually lost with a landslide score, as did Dortmund and Real Madrid in the final match this weekend. allows it to happen.
I think there are only a few people who favor Real Madrid too much and I think Real Madrid is a big team that is often in the final and they know what they have to do in the final.

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Quote from: tsaroz on May 27, 2024, 03:25:29 AM

The final doesn't have two legs, it's a 90 minute game and it can go in favor of any team. Real Madrid surely looks the better team but Dortmund is also a competitive one. If Dortmund are able to defend against and score a goal or two in counter, they can have a win. The recent win of Manchester United against Manchester City in FA cup is an example where the stronger team controlled most of the game but failed to score. Leverkusen also lost to a less anticipated Atlanta in Europa Cup. I don't mean the trend needs to follow but unlike a league, you just need to have a couple of good hours to win the final.

Real Madrid needs to be wary of Dortmund because we have seen two finals in other competitions end beyond most people's predictions. It is possible that a trend like this will be repeated by Dortmund because now they are much more motivated to make new history for the club. If you look at it in terms of quality, experience and readiness, Real Madrid will be quite the favorite, but anything can happen if Real Madrid considers this match easy.

Manchester United and Atalanta are motivation for Dortmund because even though they are inferior in quality to their opponents, they managed to surprise them. Ancelotti has to be quite wary of this because when Dortmund play at their best level, like when they beat PSG, it will be much more difficult to beat them.

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Real Madrid are favourites, for all bookmakers they will be the next winners of this Champions league, but who knows? Maybe Tedic will surprise us again and Marko Rois can finally lift the coveted trophy that eluded him 10 years ago in the final against Bayern Munich. Mine are fantasies but they might come true and I hope so

Till the game is played and over, I don't want to express any form of certainties in any team just yet because I believe they are most likely going to be surprised as in football its always happening that way but the n there are some constance that stance usually especially with certain teams where they do make sure to maintain a certain record they have kept over the years a d that has turned out a reputation for them.

I wouldn't actually be expecting a surprise in the finals because I believe Madrid is just too experienced for any of such form of surprise to happen to them, I know it's possible as there have been the likes of such happen this season but I think it has been enough for Madrid to learn to the point of allowing another team get ahead of them even after knowing all about this, they are definitely going to put in place everything that will go against such surprises and ensuring they don't get to experience one till the end of the game and eventually get to save their reputation in the champions league.

Dortmund aswell will be in their best preparation to making sure they are ready to be able to utilize to the maximum any opportunity that comes their way in course of that game of which I doubt they are going to let go without getting to properly utilizing the to get as much as they can get from the champions league finals this season because it's definitely going to be an historic one for both teams

Irrespective of the fact that the odds are clearly favouring real Madrid in this year champions league, I still believe that the game is going to showcase the attributes of a final. So it's not going to be an easy win for real Madrid. Somehow I still believe that there's going to be a big surprise in this game, real Madrid can't always be that lucky in a champions league final. They have been winning in most of the finals they have played in the Champions league, so this time I'm having this feeling that Madrid are going to taste how it feels to lose a final. Dortmund are going to be a major resistance for real Madrid and the final is going to be very entertaining. For me I want to take the big odd and support Dortmund for a big surprise in the final.

It is now scary for Real Madrid, having seen how it keeps favouring the less favourite teams in most league finals, starting from Atalanta Vs Leverkusen to Manchester City Vs Manchester United. The Champions league being one of the biggest league, we might probably get to see nothing different from the others or Madrid might see it as a bigger challenge which requires them to improve in their performance. The odds are now changing, many gamblers are now hesitant on betting Madrid as the winners, even if at last get to secure the title, it won't be an easy victory and would take a lot of composure to do so.

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That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many smal l details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

So, do you mean Dortmund has a chance? Anyway, there are still 5 days to go, so lots of speculation can come up in the meantime. I wouldn't be surprised if on June 1, 2024, Dortmund makes history.
But but but Madrid, and UEFA Champions League finals are like a walk in the park. The last time Real Madrid lost a Champions League final was in 1981, and later, they've played in 8 finals and won every one of them. Real Madrid doesn't play finals; they win them. However, Borussia Dortmund might surprise them. It will be an interesting match.

Dortmund has equal chances to gets the trophy with Real Madrid although if we see from the achievement Real Madrid is far above to Dortmund but don't mean they can easily to beat Dortmund because just like i said before similar to Real Madrid we can see Dortmund journey to reach to the final match is really hard too but they got through it all and managed to beat their opponents i think it can proven Dortmund is became an strong opponent for Real Madrid however Ancelotti has been confirmed he won't be underestimate Dortmund because this season Dortmund performance is very fantastic and potentially can make Real Madrid gets in trouble

Besides Marco Reus who confirmed will be retired we all know this match also very special for Toni Kroos because after spend 10 years with Real Madrid finally he has decide to retired too and this is his last match with Real Madrid and it could be very fantastic if Real Madrid can gets the trophy with him for the last time and Real Madrid is too consistent in this competition because during this competition Real Madrid is still unbeated and this is big challenge for Dortmund to beat Real Madrid however yesterday Real Madrid had their last match against Betis in Laliga but the result was less than satisfactory as they only managed a draw

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Quote from: tsaroz on May 27, 2024, 03:25:29 AM

The final doesn't have two legs, it's a 90 minute game and it can go in favor of any team. Real Madrid surely looks the better team but Dortmund is also a competitive one. If Dortmund are able to defend against and score a goal or two in counter, they can have a win. The recent win of Manchester United against Manchester City in FA cup is an example where the stronger team controlled most of the game but failed to score. Leverkusen also lost to a less anticipated Atlanta in Europa Cup. I don't mean the trend needs to follow but unlike a league, you just need to have a couple of good hours to win the final.

Leverkusen suffered their first defeat of the season against Atalanta. Leverkusen were in very good form. We saw a completely one-sided match against Atalanta. This was a completely unexpected result. The Leverkusen team was defeated in this match by a big margin of 3-0.

Manchester United won the FA Cup final against City. None of us expected such a result. Because Manchester City were in great form. Manchester United's performance on the other hand was very erratic. Manchester United still managed to win the FA Cup final.

I don't see any chance of underestimating the Dortmund team. I would say the main strength of this team is their defense. Defenders are able to perform well in almost every match. Against PSG I also saw excellent performances from Dortmund's defenders. So I don't think it will be easy for Madrid to score in this match.

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Quote from: temple on May 26, 2024, 07:33:00 PM

That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive.

Any final match can happen and every team that qualifies for the final is not a weak team, of course they have gone through tough matches to reach the final. Each team must not make the slightest mistake because with this mistake the opponent will take advantage of the opportunity, this could happen to Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund. Borussia Dortmund is also not a small team, they are a German giant and can beat Real Madrid with their solid defense.

I think this final will be tough, Real Madrid will definitely dominate the midfield with ball control and good areas while Dortmund will rely on set pieces and speed. I can't wait for next month.

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If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

How can you say something like this about Real Madrid, you might forget that Real Madrid is a team that often makes comebacks so not scoring goals quickly doesn't mean Dortmund has a chance of winning, on the contrary Dortmund must score goals quickly if they want to win. Because for me Real Madrid plays as a team and plays until the final whistle sounds. That's what might be different about Dormund apart from the squad of players. Just look at Bayer Munich and Manchester City and you can feel how crazy Real Madrid is in the UCL, Madrid has a mentality of steel.

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Real Madrid are favourites, for all bookmakers they will be the next winners of this Champions league, but who knows? Maybe Tedic will surprise us again and Marko Rois can finally lift the coveted trophy that eluded him 10 years ago in the final against Bayern Munich. Mine are fantasies but they might come true and I hope so

Till the game is played and over, I don't want to express any form of certainties in any team just yet because I believe they are most likely going to be surprised as in football its always happening that way but the n there are some constance that stance usually especially with certain teams where they do make sure to maintain a certain record they have kept over the years a d that has turned out a reputation for them.

I wouldn't actually be expecting a surprise in the finals because I believe Madrid is just too experienced for any of such form of surprise to happen to them, I know it's possible as there have been the likes of such happen this season but I think it has been enough for Madrid to learn to the point of allowing another team get ahead of them even after knowing all about this, they are definitely going to put in place everything that will go against such surprises and ensuring they don't get to experience one till the end of the game and eventually get to save their reputation in the champions league.

Dortmund aswell will be in their best preparation to making sure they are ready to be able to utilize to the maximum any opportunity that comes their way in course of that game of which I doubt they are going to let go without getting to properly utilizing the to get as much as they can get from the champions league finals this season because it's definitely going to be an historic one for both teams

Irrespective of the fact that the odds are clearly favouring real Madrid in this year champions league, I still believe that the game is going to showcase the attributes of a final. So it's not going to be an easy win for real Madrid. Somehow I still believe that there's going to be a big surprise in this game, real Madrid can't always be that lucky in a champions league final. They have been winning in most of the finals they have played in the Champions league, so this time I'm having this feeling that Madrid are going to taste how it feels to lose a final. Dortmund are going to be a major resistance for real Madrid and the final is going to be very entertaining. For me I want to take the big odd and support Dortmund for a big surprise in the final.

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The final doesn't have two legs, it's a 90 minute game and it can go in favor of any team. Real Madrid surely looks the better team but Dortmund is also a competitive one. If Dortmund are able to defend against and score a goal or two in counter, they can have a win. The recent win of Manchester United against Manchester City in FA cup is an example where the stronger team controlled most of the game but failed to score. Leverkusen also lost to a less anticipated Atlanta in Europa Cup. I don't mean the trend needs to follow but unlike a league, you just need to have a couple of good hours to win the final.

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Real Madrid is undoubtedly a better team than Dortmund in every metric. They are also the most popular team in the world with the biggest fanbase worldwide. This fact is expected by bookmakers to attract many bettors to put their bets on Real Madrid. There is no reason for bookmakers not to put Real Madrid as favorite to win the Champions League trophy.

Dortmund may be underdog in this game, but their chance to win the final is still there. They have won one Champions league in 1997 by also being underdog to Juventus. The captain, Marco Reus, will put his best effort on his last game for Dortmund to win the most prestigious trophy for his boyhood club. The game will be a climax of this season football, it's expected to be an intense and attractive game that will lure many emotions.

That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

You are right but you also need to know that Real Madrid will not be like the other big team that Dortmund managed to knock out this season, in fact Real Madrid players can always play well overall so it cannot be compared to PSG with Mbappe.
Look at how many of Real Madrid core players from the midfield and front line always appear very impressive when attacking, they can all really look for and create very good opportunities, this is what will make the Dortmund players easily fooled and overwhelmed.
It not just about Vinicius Jr but also Rodrygo, Bellingham, Joselu and do not forget also Toni Kroos midfielder who can always show his performance in create assists.
I sure Dortmund will definitely have difficulty responding to every attack carried out by Real Madrid players.
If Dortmund is lucky then it won't be win but it will probably only end in draw, but the chances will be very small.

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When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

Of course, you are right. Real Madrid has more experience and squad depth than Dortmund, but there is no guarantee of winning the title this season. Both teams are the best among the many teams playing in the Champions League this season, so they will definitely not underestimate each other.

Apart from the experience and depth of the squad, Real Madrid also has a very capable coach. Ancelotti can help Real Madrid play better and he has proven that even though he was several goals behind his opponent in a match. I respect him and of course I expect the best results from him this season.

The chances of winning for the two teams are very different, but I will never use that as a benchmark in determining who will win the title. Dortmund is a dangerous team this season, they can be a threat and even win the title with their superiority and ability. This could happen so there is no reason to see Real Madrid not being wary of it.

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That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

Dortmund can prevent or neutralize an individual like Kylian Mbappé. As we know, PSG is depending on Kylian Mbappé. Therefore, Dortmund only needs to lock down this player, and then PSG will be considered an average team. As for a team full of mysterious factors like Real Madrid. Their players can explode at any time. I confirm that Dortmund cannot stop Ancelotti's tactics. Dortmund can contain lock Vinicius Junior. But there's still Bellingham, Rodrygo, and even Joselu. It's difficult for Dortmund to stop. Don't make the mistake of thinking Real Madrid uses money to buy stars for display. The bravery of the traditionally rich team is very different from the way the rich PSG throws money into the transfer market.

Dortmund's strategy will not even work for Real Madrid in the upcoming game caused by a lot of factors, one of these factors is quality of players. Madrid boasts numerous sprinters with exceptional individual skills, such as Vinicius and Rodrygo that will be also making dortmund's defender will unable to defend against them. It will be an issue if Dortmund tries to focus on just one guy. That will not work and terzic must be preparing something new in order to help dortmund from being equal to the real madrid.

The only feasible approach for Dortmund is to deploy a man-on-man marking method which I'm not convinced will be very effective but is definitely worth trying but yeah since it will be facing real madrid. Im not saying it has very high chance to be an effective strategy. I'm thinking about the best thing Dortmund can accomplish by implementing that approach to ensure it can compete against Real Madrid.

Madrid has so many outstanding players. This will be a pretty easy game for Real Madrid considering it will be facing dortmund. Dortmund will have no chance of beating Madrid. It is likely that Madrid will win the game with a close margin soon.

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There are reasons why Real Madrid is the bookmakers favorite club to win the UEFA Champions League title this season and almost everyone who knows about the history of both clubs in the competition will agree to the fact that Real Madrid will always be the favorite team to win a final ahead of Borussia Dortmund. Like you said, Marco Reus who will be playing his last game for Borussia Dortmund in that game will do everything possible to try get his hands on club football's most prestigious trophy but I don't think his wishes will come to past in that game.
Real Madrid legend like Toni Kroos will also be playing his last club football game in that game and as a Real Madrid fan that I'm, I can authoritatively tell you that the Real Madrid players will do everything possible to help Kroos win that particular trophy in his last game at the club.

Real Madrid is undoubtedly a better team than Dortmund in every metric. They are also the most popular team in the world with the biggest fanbase worldwide. This fact is expected by bookmakers to attract many bettors to put their bets on Real Madrid. There is no reason for bookmakers not to put Real Madrid as favorite to win the Champions League trophy.

Dortmund may be underdog in this game, but their chance to win the final is still there. They have won one Champions league in 1997 by also being underdog to Juventus. The captain, Marco Reus, will put his best effort on his last game for Dortmund to win the most prestigious trophy for his boyhood club. The game will be a climax of this season football, it's expected to be an intense and attractive game that will lure many emotions.

That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

I will say that the match against PSG was based on luck, that was why you see that two shots on target from Mbappe hit the goal post and denied him two goals. Dortmund was lucky enough to get away with those unlucky moments for PSG. I don't see same thing happening to Real Madrid because it is not only Vini that can score or that Real Madrid is looking up to.

Real Madrid have a quality squad in which any of them can score and they are independent of any key player when it comes to goal scoring. This is why I don't think that Dortmund can stop of of their 5 strikers from scoring on that match. Joselu, Rodrigo, Brahim and Bellingham are all there to score, so if one of them is not lucky enough to score, the others will score. We saw that in their matches against City and Bayern. Bayern was even winning with one goal ahead but a supersub came in and scored two goals within 8 minutes. So I still strongly believe thtt it will be a win win for Real Madrid as usual.

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That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

Yes, it's true that these two teams cannot underestimate each other, but in the final match you have to be careful because both of them could surprise each other because the strengths of each team will definitely be more different than before, experience is more important, but their desire to win is the same goal. , so desire will trump anyone's experience, even though Madrid has experience in winning the UCL, Dortmund still has a high desire to win and become UCL champions this season because they have made it to the final with hard work, not just luck.

I don't want to underestimate Dortmund and I also don't think Madrid won't be able to beat Dortmund, but don't be too confident in your experience and mentality because basically a high desire can defeat everything, so this UCL final match will be something that all gamblers are waiting for because Of course, it is profitable to bet on this match, as we saw where many of those who favored Leverkusen in the UEL final turned out to be defeated by Atalanta. This is where we can read that the surprise was definitely unexpected in the final match, especially in this big competition.

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That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

Several points regarding optimism about performance in the Europa League final can be used as a reference but not in their entirety, because in terms of experience and mentality the Atalanta vs Leverkusen final match cannot be used as a strong reason. However, when it comes to opportunity and luck this season, Dortmund also has the same percentage. Real Madrid is a club where it is difficult to find selfishness among its players almost all of them show teamwork like family and so far I haven't seen that in Dortmund. Maybe it's because they don't really research the depth of their squad or the fact that with the cooperation we've often seen, Real Madrid can always show a different aura from other teams in Europe especially when it comes to fighting to win trophies.

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Quote from: reagansimms on May 26, 2024, 11:06:42 PM

One thing that must not be forgotten in football, anything can still happen as long as the match is not over. The incident experienced by Manchester City and Leverkusen broke all predictions of the team being the favorite to win the match, Manchester City and Leverkusen were both more favored, but both lost. The events in these two different finals made the Champions League Final into the spotlight when Real Madrid and Dortmund fought for the Champions League title this season.

In terms of Real Madrid's big name, including the championship titles it has won in this competition, Madrid is certainly superior to Dortmund, which was only able to finish in fifth place in the Bundesliga. Real Madrid will be more favorites when they start the match at Wembley, but it is possible that the bad luck experienced by Manchester City and Leverkusen will rub off on them. Dortmund, who are very ambitious about winning the Champions League title, will try to improve their performance like when they eliminated other big teams.

It's true what you said, anything can happen as long as the match isn't finished. with the incident experienced by Manchester City and Leverkusen where they were the favorite teams but could lose in this important match, this proves that anything can happen during a match. Will this season be the season for all the top teams to lose important matches? Apart from that, even though Real Madrid has a superior performance to Dortmund, no one knows what the match will be like. However, comparing Real Madrid and other teams is certainly not comparable, but you have to remember that anything can happen.

On the other hand, of course, these two teams definitely have the ambition to win the Champions League title, with Dortmund itself, which has beaten top teams several times, which is enough to prove that they have a performance that Real Madrid should not underestimate, nor should they. With Dortmund's success in being able to reach this peak, it certainly proves that they are worthy of fighting with big teams like Real Madrid.

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That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many smal l details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

So, do you mean Dortmund has a chance? Anyway, there are still 5 days to go, so lots of speculation can come up in the meantime. I wouldn't be surprised if on June 1, 2024, Dortmund makes history.
But but but Madrid, and UEFA Champions League finals are like a walk in the park. The last time Real Madrid lost a Champions League final was in 1981, and later, they've played in 8 finals and won every one of them. Real Madrid doesn't play finals; they win them. However, Borussia Dortmund might surprise them. It will be an interesting match.

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Quote from: temple on May 26, 2024, 07:33:00 PM

That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

Dortmund can prevent or neutralize an individual like Kylian Mbappé. As we know, PSG is depending on Kylian Mbappé. Therefore, Dortmund only needs to lock down this player, and then PSG will be considered an average team. As for a team full of mysterious factors like Real Madrid. Their players can explode at any time. I confirm that Dortmund cannot stop Ancelotti's tactics. Dortmund can contain lock Vinicius Junior. But there's still Bellingham, Rodrygo, and even Joselu. It's difficult for Dortmund to stop. Don't make the mistake of thinking Real Madrid uses money to buy stars for display. The bravery of the traditionally rich team is very different from the way the rich PSG throws money into the transfer market.

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Quote from: temple on May 26, 2024, 07:33:00 PM

That might be true, but do you realize that Dortmund has now proven a couple of times that they can beat top teams? With some luck and on a perfect day I think they can beat Real Madrid. Just see how they managed to stop Mbappe from scoring two games in a row. I guess there is hardly a harder challenge than that. If they can stop Mbappe, they can also stop players like Vinicius Junior. And in a final I think everything is different anyway. Every player reaches new heights and there are so many small details that can be decisive. If Real Madrid doesn't score way too early in the game, then chances are good for Dortmund to achieve something great

One thing that must not be forgotten in football, anything can still happen as long as the match is not over. The incident experienced by Manchester City and Leverkusen broke all predictions of the team being the favorite to win the match, Manchester City and Leverkusen were both more favored, but both lost. The events in these two different finals made the Champions League Final into the spotlight when Real Madrid and Dortmund fought for the Champions League title this season.

In terms of Real Madrid's big name, including the championship titles it has won in this competition, Madrid is certainly superior to Dortmund, which was only able to finish in fifth place in the Bundesliga. Real Madrid will be more favorites when they start the match at Wembley, but it is possible that the bad luck experienced by Manchester City and Leverkusen will rub off on them. Dortmund, who are very ambitious about winning the Champions League title, will try to improve their performance like when they eliminated other big teams.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on May 26, 2024, 07:48:07 PM

When 2 teams go to the final it means they are the best team among the other teams and basically both teams are at the same level, the only difference is experience. Indeed, based on the squad, Real Madrid looks better, but there is no guarantee that Real Madrid will definitely win, the Europa League final is an example when a strong team like Leverkusen is defeated so the same thing could happen in the Champions League, right?

In results, they are two best remaining teams and will compete with each other for the title. Though their quality can be the best and only among the best but their mentality strength is actually best.

I am strongly belief in strength of mentality of teams that already passed through many opponents along their ways to the final match. No doubt about Real Madrid's quality, mentality but Dortmund actually are not bad in quality and their mentality must be strong to win against strong teams like Atletico Madrid and PSG in knock out phases.

A closest comparison is Atalanta in Europa League and that team created a big shock by beating Leverkusen with a big difference in the final match last week. Dortmund don't need a big win and they will need to continue their defensive strength and try to score a winning goal, even only one goal to win the final.

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