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Quote from: Davian144 on December 28, 2023, 10:53:54 AM

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It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

This could indeed be possible for Atletico Madrid, but for now such an assumption is still too early because if Atletico Madrid is able to get better players in January, there might be a big change in their playing pattern in the Champions League later. Likewise with Inter Milan, because apart from having to be able to keep its core players from getting injured, Inter Milan also has to be able to target some of the best players in the transfer market in order to increase their strength this season.

The match will take a place in San Siro after two months approximately. If it was played right now then definitely Inter Milan are favourite. After two months and going throughout the winter transfer window then there will be some changes for sure even without adding new players, the second half of the season is always tricky with sometimes changes in the teams performances.
Odds shown for the moment are in favour of Inter as I said at 2 versus 3.6 for Atletico Madrid.

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Quote from: Davian144 on December 28, 2023, 10:53:54 AM

Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

This could indeed be possible for Atletico Madrid, but for now such an assumption is still too early because if Atletico Madrid is able to get better players in January, there might be a big change in their playing pattern in the Champions League later. Likewise with Inter Milan, because apart from having to be able to keep its core players from getting injured, Inter Milan also has to be able to target some of the best players in the transfer market in order to increase their strength this season.

They will definitely make some changes, including bringing in new players who bring a breath of fresh air to their game. I also still can't say whether Inter Milan will return with the same performance or not after a long break, as well as Atletico Madrid, they could come back with a better performance.
Overall this match will be difficult to predict with their status, indeed now Atletico Madrid is not better than Inter Milan, but their experience in the Champions League is also very long, so that might help them in the game.
The two coaches will clash strategies and show who is better than them. The 2 matches will be utilized by both clubs, especially when they are the hosts.

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Quote from: AakZaki on December 28, 2023, 06:35:42 AM

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Barcelona wasn't in their good form, but it's a big joke if they're lose against Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp because both of them are in different level. If Manchester United was in this group, I believe Manchester United will able to qualify for knockout stage.

Either Barcelona or Napoli win the match, their next match is against Arsenal which I think they would lose.

In the UCL the first round will be in Napoli, so losing it is probably realistic. But the best thing is at least they don't lose by more than 1 goal. I also still feel confident that Barcelona could have drawn in the first round. So they have points for the 2nd game at Camp Nou. Besides, the game is still February. There is still a transfer break that can be taken advantage of. For Napoli and Barcelona I guess Barcelona will win and continue the round of 8 big teams.

I think Barcelona should be able to beat Napoli easily and there shouldn't be any issue at all. I think the best thing to do in this case would be just assuming that it would be a good period, and we could end up with something that should benefit everyone. I get that the best thing to do in this situation would be just assuming the world is not ending, you don't have to pay everything all that easily but you just have to assume that betting on Barcelona is a great way to make some money.

I am not saying that it's guaranteed, Barcelona could still lose, not like they are having a wonderful season, but they are certainly doing much better than Napoli has been doing so it should be a win for them without a doubt.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on December 28, 2023, 02:03:33 AM

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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here,

The match will going to be a tough match, many people will like to watch because the two teams are doing well in their various tournament but the position Inter are in the Italian league table show that they will defeat Atletico Madrid 2-1 to move to next level. Many people know that Inter really tried last season to battle with Manchester city despite Manchester city was defeating teams anyhow in the champion league competition but Inter made the match difficult for them before the match turned for their favour in the second half last season in the champion league competition. If Inter players complete in this match to battle with Atletico Madrid, I think Inter will be my favorite team in this match to achieve victory from Atletico Madrid because they have potential strikers that know how to achieve goals on time to reduce the strength of their opponent.

I am very confident that Inter Milan will win even though Atletico is also a very strong team, but I cannot ignore how hard Inter worked last season to reach the final round and this season it could happen because Inter is much better in experience and can do it quickly. beat Atletico Madrid.
But it seems like it's only a close score because I see that Atletico Madrid has recently had very good improvements in its defense line and I often see that in domestic league matches Atletico Madrid's defense has been perfect and maybe this will make it a little difficult for Inter players to score in the upcoming match. come.
If we talk about achievements in the domestic league, Inter will still be superior because they managed to be in first position while Atletico Madrid is in 3rd position on the points table.
Hopefully there will be no painful surprises that we see and many people hope that Inter Milan can qualify and reach the final round again.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

This could indeed be possible for Atletico Madrid, but for now such an assumption is still too early because if Atletico Madrid is able to get better players in January, there might be a big change in their playing pattern in the Champions League later. Likewise with Inter Milan, because apart from having to be able to keep its core players from getting injured, Inter Milan also has to be able to target some of the best players in the transfer market in order to increase their strength this season.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

This is going to be a tough game for both teams as they are both in good form and have almost equal strength but Athletico Madrid hasn't been really good in their domestic league so far, although they are not in a very bad position but they have appeared to be struggling with their performance even if they do better in the UCL.

You could remember Athletico finished first position in their group stage at the UCL which could mean they are doing even better at the UCL, inter Milan on the other hand are at the top of their domestic league and finished second position in the UCL which showed they are a bit above average aswell so like I did stated earlier, it's definitely not going to be an easy game but I some how choose inter to be my favorite just like you did aswell because they look like they have a more stable and consistent form.

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Quote from: borovichok on December 28, 2023, 07:23:29 AM

Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

Lucky and unlucky alternative will be triggered by these UCL clubs. Simeone Inzaghi have mapped out his plans and paths to glory for his club, he's not holding back when he has seen the momentum of his squad, a time to release the fire in his players against top clubs. Inter Milan doesn't want to relent anymore after failing to win Manchester City in the UEFA Champions League final last season, it hurts to be victims of defeats in a grand UCL finale. Nobody would wished defeats for themselves in major tournaments. Again, Inter Milan have secured a spot in the round of 16 and we expects them to become one of the top rival for Atletico Madrid.

Many say that the candidates for the final this time are also Inter Milan and Manchester City, but if I compare at this time Manchester City is experiencing a decline in performance, Guardiola is a little difficult to map his players, especially in his own domestic league, while Inter Milan is rising and is in the best performance as the top of the standings this time.

Yes, it is quite regrettable, there must be a lot of disappointment with last season, especially inter Milan supporters, but I had predicted at that time that Inter Milan would not be so strong to beat Manchester City last season, but for this season I am very sure that I doubt Manchester City can reach the championship final.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 28, 2023, 07:26:27 AM

I am quite skeptical that Inter Milan can return to the Champions League final, although I agree that this season Inter Milan looks better than last season, because last season Inter Milan after qualifying from the group phase relatively faced a team that was not much different from them, Inter Milan faced Porto and Benfica are in the last 16 and quarter-finals and the same city team is in the semifinals, while this season in the last 16 round they will face Atletico Madrid, a team that can always be a threat even to a team that is stronger than Inter Milan.
My prediction is that Inter Milan will only reach the quarter-finals or semifinals if they can overcome Atletico Madrid, it is even very possible that they will be eliminated early from this competition, but we have to wait at least 1 week before the match starts because news of a player's injury will very likely change the course of the match which will be held next February.

Last season Inter was very lucky in the playoffs, all the toughest opponents played against City. Such luck will not be repeated for two seasons in a row, so I am almost sure that they will not be able to reach the final, I will even say that I am not sure if they will be able to beat Atlético. Maybe some miracle will happen and Inzaghi will be able to take the team to the final again, but I don’t believe in it, they have a good team, but not enough to resist Real and City.

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So in essence, even though Leipzig are not the favorites, it is hoped that they can give a surprise, especially when they face Real Madrid in the round of 16. I think this is very normal and it is impossible for football to always run as usual. I also hope that Leipzig can give Real Madrid a tough match and if they can win in one of the legs it will certainly be a good achievement. Playing against Real Madrid is something that most teams avoid and unfortunately Leipzig have to face them again after qualifying from the group stage.

Leipzig is not a bad team, even though their quality is below Madrid. Madrid may still experience serious problems in the next match. Moreover, Leipzig will play at home in the first leg. Leipzig still has to take advantage, because to win at home to Madrid in the second leg, it will be quite difficult for Leipzig.

Leipzig qualified for the round of 16 with second place. while Madrid escaped with a complete victory without defeat. Of course, the favorite in this match is Madrid, but Leipzig can still fight and provide the best resistance to prove that the Champions League does not only belong to Madrid and other strong teams.

I hope that all the unseeded teams have a spirit that exceeds all the strength possessed by the big teams in the Champions League and as you said they have to prove it and don't be too fixated on fate that they will fall first. Everyone still has the opportunity to provide equal resistance and here Leipzig must do it from the first leg and if they succeed in doing so, of course Real Madrid will be quite under pressure in the second leg.

But that is provided that Leipzig can maintain a draw or at least have a difference of 1 goal on the aggregate of the first leg and that will increase their confidence in going to Santiago Bernabeu. It's difficult but they have to try and not have any regrets or give up from the first match. Of course, Real Madrid will always be challenged by a team like that and it will make them play more attractively.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

I am quite skeptical that Inter Milan can return to the Champions League final, although I agree that this season Inter Milan looks better than last season, because last season Inter Milan after qualifying from the group phase relatively faced a team that was not much different from them, Inter Milan faced Porto and Benfica are in the last 16 and quarter-finals and the same city team is in the semifinals, while this season in the last 16 round they will face Atletico Madrid, a team that can always be a threat even to a team that is stronger than Inter Milan.
My prediction is that Inter Milan will only reach the quarter-finals or semifinals if they can overcome Atletico Madrid, it is even very possible that they will be eliminated early from this competition, but we have to wait at least 1 week before the match starts because news of a player's injury will very likely change the course of the match which will be held next February.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 28, 2023, 06:15:28 AM

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

Lucky and unlucky alternative will be triggered by these UCL clubs. Simeone Inzaghi have mapped out his plans and paths to glory for his club, he's not holding back when he has seen the momentum of his squad, a time to release the fire in his players against top clubs. Inter Milan doesn't want to relent anymore after failing to win Manchester City in the UEFA Champions League final last season, it hurts to be victims of defeats in a grand UCL finale. Nobody would wished defeats for themselves in major tournaments. Again, Inter Milan have secured a spot in the round of 16 and we expects them to become one of the top rival for Atletico Madrid.

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Quote from: ancafe on December 28, 2023, 03:23:35 AM

This is a different competition and I see that PSG is not too favored even though PSG is much stronger, Real Sociedad has gone through a difficult phase in the group so they can qualify for the next round as group winners. If Luis Enrique doesn't feel worried when facing Real Sociedad then I'm not too optimistic they can advance to the next round. The Champions League is very different from Ligue 1 because even though the quality of the players is below standard, any club must have quite big ambitions.

If they are not careful, PSG and Real Sociedad could slip up due to their unpreparedness. Have you ever seen how PSG lost to AC Milan and were humiliated by Newcastle with a fairly crushing defeat. Although in the end PSG managed to qualify as group runners-up. This should be taken into consideration by Luis Enrique and they must not let Real Sociedad get a single point when playing at PSG's home ground.

PSG is a better team than Sociedad even when you compare it the both teams in terms of financial strength. PSG star man Mbappe would be able to help haunt down this Real Sociedad team. Though there’ll be worry of PSG qualifying because they’re one team that find it difficult to go past the knockout stage of this competition.

But I feel this will be an easy one for PSG and probably they could have an hiccup going forward but not This match. The score line will be pretty much but let’s see how it goes as injury could create a crisis.Even after the draw, the Real Sociedad President wasn’t happy because he sees PSG as one significant challenge for his team, and naming PSG one heavyweight.This will be an easy one for PSG and let’s see how they progress from there.

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Quote from: AakZaki on December 28, 2023, 06:35:42 AM

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Barcelona wasn't in their good form, but it's a big joke if they're lose against Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp because both of them are in different level. If Manchester United was in this group, I believe Manchester United will able to qualify for knockout stage.

Either Barcelona or Napoli win the match, their next match is against Arsenal which I think they would lose.

In the UCL the first round will be in Napoli, so losing it is probably realistic. But the best thing is at least they don't lose by more than 1 goal. I also still feel confident that Barcelona could have drawn in the first round. So they have points for the 2nd game at Camp Nou. Besides, the game is still February. There is still a transfer break that can be taken advantage of. For Napoli and Barcelona I guess Barcelona will win and continue the round of 8 big teams.

I think the performance of the teams will determine if Napoli can take the lead at home in the first leg, Napoli will have the home advantage over Barcelona since they will be playing in front of their fans but it will take good performance to beat Barcelona regardless of their poor performance lately in their league La Liga. I think Barcelona losing to Napoli in the first leg is possible but just as you earlier said, if Barcelona don't lose with more than 1 goal then they will have a good opportunity to win Napoli in the returning leg to move to the round of 8 but since both teams are still struggling to be among the top 4 in their different leagues it's going to be an opportunity for them to push to see if they can win the UCL to get authomatic qualification for UCL next season.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 26, 2023, 11:10:26 PM

Barcelona wasn't in their good form, but it's a big joke if they're lose against Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp because both of them are in different level. If Manchester United was in this group, I believe Manchester United will able to qualify for knockout stage.

Either Barcelona or Napoli win the match, their next match is against Arsenal which I think they would lose.

In the UCL the first round will be in Napoli, so losing it is probably realistic. But the best thing is at least they don't lose by more than 1 goal. I also still feel confident that Barcelona could have drawn in the first round. So they have points for the 2nd game at Camp Nou. Besides, the game is still February. There is still a transfer break that can be taken advantage of. For Napoli and Barcelona I guess Barcelona will win and continue the round of 8 big teams.

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Quote from: ancafe on December 28, 2023, 03:23:35 AM

This is a different competition and I see that PSG is not too favored even though PSG is much stronger, Real Sociedad has gone through a difficult phase in the group so they can qualify for the next round as group winners. If Luis Enrique doesn't feel worried when facing Real Sociedad then I'm not too optimistic they can advance to the next round. The Champions League is very different from Ligue 1 because even though the quality of the players is below standard, any club must have quite big ambitions.

When a club competes in the Champions League, of course they have huge ambitions to get the best results, especially if the club has difficulty qualifying for the Champions League because of the tight competition in the league. I think the atmosphere in the Champions League will be very different from that in the League. PSG may be too strong in the League but they have to be careful because Real Sociedad is a strong team. As a comparison, if Real Sociedad competed in Ligue 1, maybe they would be able to get a ranking of 1-4 at the end of the season. I don't underestimate Ligue 1 but it seems like that's the reality.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on December 28, 2023, 02:03:33 AM

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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here,

The match will going to be a tough match, many people will like to watch because the two teams are doing well in their various tournament but the position Inter are in the Italian league table show that they will defeat Atletico Madrid 2-1 to move to next level. Many people know that Inter really tried last season to battle with Manchester city despite Manchester city was defeating teams anyhow in the champion league competition but Inter made the match difficult for them before the match turned for their favour in the second half last season in the champion league competition. If Inter players complete in this match to battle with Atletico Madrid, I think Inter will be my favorite team in this match to achieve victory from Atletico Madrid because they have potential strikers that know how to achieve goals on time to reduce the strength of their opponent.

It will be a very interesting game, because both teams are in very good form now. Inter are probably even better than last season in the Champions League and I think they can be in the final again next year. Atletico Madrid are definitely unlucky that they will play against Inter.

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Quote from: makishart on December 27, 2023, 08:13:26 AM

Due to the fact that PSG was significantly stronger in comparison to sociedad, there was absolutely no reason to be concerned or worried about that. PSG will be using mbappe as the main weapon to destroy sociedad. Sociedad is going to be EZ team for PSG. The quality of squad owned by PSG and sociedad is having a very big gap at this time. When it comes to facing formidable teams like Newcastle and AC Milan, PSG has consistently demonstrated their ability to come out victorious, making them a force to be reckoned with. Why does PSG need to feel worry just to face sociedad? it doesn't even make sense for me to hear that. PSG will be fully enjoying the game. The first leg is going to be easy game for PSG. The margins in the upcoming match between these clubs are anticipated to be significant.

This is a different competition and I see that PSG is not too favored even though PSG is much stronger, Real Sociedad has gone through a difficult phase in the group so they can qualify for the next round as group winners. If Luis Enrique doesn't feel worried when facing Real Sociedad then I'm not too optimistic they can advance to the next round. The Champions League is very different from Ligue 1 because even though the quality of the players is below standard, any club must have quite big ambitions.

If they are not careful, PSG and Real Sociedad could slip up due to their unpreparedness. Have you ever seen how PSG lost to AC Milan and were humiliated by Newcastle with a fairly crushing defeat. Although in the end PSG managed to qualify as group runners-up. This should be taken into consideration by Luis Enrique and they must not let Real Sociedad get a single point when playing at PSG's home ground.

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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here,

The match will going to be a tough match, many people will like to watch because the two teams are doing well in their various tournament but the position Inter are in the Italian league table show that they will defeat Atletico Madrid 2-1 to move to next level. Many people know that Inter really tried last season to battle with Manchester city despite Manchester city was defeating teams anyhow in the champion league competition but Inter made the match difficult for them before the match turned for their favour in the second half last season in the champion league competition. If Inter players complete in this match to battle with Atletico Madrid, I think Inter will be my favorite team in this match to achieve victory from Atletico Madrid because they have potential strikers that know how to achieve goals on time to reduce the strength of their opponent.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on December 27, 2023, 10:33:33 PM

PSG has lost it glory now that Messi and Neymar are no longer there.Neymar and Messi were two players who made other teams scared of that team.They did everything possible to be able to win the Champions league,but it wasn't easy for them and most times,they get eliminated from the round of 16, sometimes,they won't qualify from group stage despite having the best players in the world.One thing I have noticed in football is that the coach managing a team has alot of influence on his team.If that team will win anything,it will be because of the coach,if the team will remain stagnant,it will also be because of the coach.This time around,I doubt if PSG will even qualify from the round of 16.

Messi and Neymar were two excellent players which when combined with mbappe we expected to see PSG lifting the UCL trophy without much efforts but then it turned out they were unable to even get to semi-final s with this big names in their team which literary scared certain teams then I'm the UCL.

This made it obviously clear that the challenge of PSG was beyond having big names amongst them to help them win trophy because with such squad then, they did appeared to be amongst the best contenders for the trophy an it was expected the get to finals at least but then they did lack the team play and tactics that will help them with the advantage of the star players amongst them, so even this season I don't see they going beyond the quarter finals that's if they finally make it pass the round of sixteen, they should focus on addressing the team form and play style and get some good improvement then they can proceed to buy players to compliment the efforts.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 28, 2023, 12:00:06 AM

Quote from: deathcode on December 27, 2023, 11:15:22 PM

where did PSG get the Champions League trophy when there were Messi and Neymar in the team?

I'm surprised you didn't know PSG won Champions League for many times, the trio Mbappe, Messi and Neymar was the strongest trio all the time, no one can beat them.

Neymar and Mbappe may have been PSG mainstay players for several seasons but not for Messi because he has only been playing with PSG since the 2021/22 season.
And after last season Messi went to MLS with Inter Miami so saying they are the strongest trio of all time is not statement appropriate.
In the existing list there is no name PSG who have 14 Champions League titles and the owner of the nickname king of the UCL is still held by Real Madrid with the 14 titles they have won so far.

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Quote from: len01 on December 27, 2023, 11:29:37 PM

we can see the proof when PSG is able to bring in a coach who has a lot of experience like Zidane or Mourinho who will definitely have better achievements in the UCL and I am not sure if PSG passes the round of 16 because in this round several big teams will continue to strengthen their performance and PSG is not ready to compete with other big teams.

Zidane was only successful because he managed a strong club, if Real Madrid wasn't managed by Zidane, Real Madrid can still able to become a champion.

Mourinho is an old school manager, he doesn't follow the modern football, his career is over when he make Chelsea fall from 1st position to 10th position in 2015. He doesn't bring anything on the table when he managing Manchester United, Tottenham and Roma.

Players, Real Madrid has perfect players and they have coach who can bring Real Madrid to stay at the top of being the only team with the most titles and the most success not only in La Liga but also in the UCL.
For Mourinho, maybe what you say is true and I agree with that statement.

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