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Quote from: X-ray on December 12, 2023, 02:35:01 AM

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The fans will be blaming all of manchester united players if the club will not able to qualify for the knock out stage. We do know that how many haters will be also mocking this club.
The match between galatasaray vs copenhagen is really worthy to be watched.

There is no doubt that this match will be very competitive. I thought Copenhagen and Galatasaray were weak teams. But both these teams have changed my opinion by performing brilliantly in a few matches. They are able to perform well. And the first match between these two teams was also very competitive. Galatasaray's home match was a 2-2 draw. The performance of the players of both the teams was excellent.

It is not possible to predict Manchester United's performance with certainty. This team has the potential to perform well. But their performance is poor due to poor match strategy. Naturally, they don't seem capable of defeating a Bayern Munich side. I will refrain from betting on this match.

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Quote from: Amphenomenon on December 11, 2023, 04:09:16 PM

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Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.

Bayern usually have shocking lost every seasons so you can not judge them with that performance but true man united has a good chance of winning especially if the team is ready to fight for the win and I believe this because in the first match nobody expected man united to lose with a goal difference we all thought it would be an higher margin. Let just see how serious and prepared are they against bayern tomorrow

Playing at home will make manchester united play openly against bayern. I see that is not a serious problem for bayern munich. It's caused by bayern has been securing a spot for the knock out stage, manchester united is in the critical situation caused by it has very small chance to qualify.
I will not watch this match caused by i think that if the match between copenhagen vs galatasaray will be more attractive. The result from copenhagen vs galatasaray will not be only determining the fate of two teams but it will be three teams.

There will be so many interesting matches to come soon. This will make a lot of people are confusing which match that must be watched. The lost against frankfurt may give bad impact to the performance from the club.
I do aware that if this is also hitting the mentality of the players as well.

The fans will be blaming all of manchester united players if the club will not able to qualify for the knock out stage. We do know that how many haters will be also mocking this club.
The match between galatasaray vs copenhagen is really worthy to be watched.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 12, 2023, 01:30:58 AM

Jude Bellingham's contribution so far with Real Madrid in the Champions League group stages and he has been consistent in scoring goals and assists in every match. The only match he missed was against Braga in the second round and at that time Jude Bellingham had to be absent because he still had a shoulder injury. I wonder if in the last match against Union Berlin he will score another goal and that will at least put his name at the top in the competition to be the top scorer in the Champions League this season. Even though Real Madrid are certain to qualify with 5 wins in a row, of course they still want to perform optimally, especially since this is also an away match against Union Berlin and Real Madrid of course still wants to extend their unbeaten record in this competition.

Jude Bellingham reminds me about a midfielder, box-to-box, in England years ago, Frank Lampard. They are both type of very goal productive midfielders but Jude even is doing this better than Frank Lampard. It is a big milestone for Frank Lampard to be a best scorer in history of Chelsea and he did it as an attacking midfielder. I really want to see Jude to repeat it but in England national team. If he can bring this form to the national team, he will break records of Wayne Rooney, Alan Shearer and Harry Kane.

No other word to say about Jude, what a midfielder!

Quote from: Sebas.tian on December 12, 2023, 01:37:30 AM

Since we know that Manchester united have challenge in the area of goalkeeper and it has caused them a lot of defeat from many teams in this season and it has made them not to top in their group in the champion league competition. Based on their performance in this season, showed that Bayern Munich will take a good lead in this match and it will end up for the favour of Bayern Munich to embrace the three points to make their fans happy. Despite if Bayern Munich loose in this match they will still remain in the first position in this group, I don't think Bayern Munich strikers will allow Manchester united to win this match, because they are very ready to score goals that will make people to believed that they will go far in this tournament.

Bayern Munich did not have good form recently but they played better than Manchester United in Champions League and because the task for Manchester United is very heavy. Beating Bayern Munich, if they can do it, it's good but not enough. They will also need a draw between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Even their own task, beating Bayern Munich is like very difficult for Manchester United. If they can get three points from the opponent, they will have to say good bye to Champions League.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 12, 2023, 01:30:58 AM

Jude Bellingham's contribution so far with Real Madrid in the Champions League group stages and he has been consistent in scoring goals and assists in every match. The only match he missed was against Braga in the second round and at that time Jude Bellingham had to be absent because he still had a shoulder injury. I wonder if in the last match against Union Berlin he will score another goal and that will at least put his name at the top in the competition to be the top scorer in the Champions League this season. Even though Real Madrid are certain to qualify with 5 wins in a row, of course they still want to perform optimally, especially since this is also an away match against Union Berlin and Real Madrid of course still wants to extend their unbeaten record in this competition.

The best player in the current Madrid squad is Jude Bellingham. And since there is no perfect striker in Madrid's squad right now. And so Ancelotti has built his match strategy around Jude Bellingham. This is why Jude Bellingham's performance has been so good this season. He is able to score in almost every match in the La League, as well as in the Champions League matches, Bellingham's performance is excellent. Scored 12 goals and two assists in 14 La Liga matches and 4 goals and two assists in 4 Champions League matches. Union Berlin is not a strong opponent. Bellingham has a great chance to score in this match as well. But the match is not a very important match for Madrid. In this match, Ancelotti will probably experiment with his squad by applying different match tactics.

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Man U and Bayern Munich lost their last games in the domestic leagues with big scores... By the way both results surprised me a lot, especially Bayern, who are in first place in the group... They don't need a win now and even if they lose, they will remain in first place... I think it will be an interesting match...

Since we know that Manchester united have challenge in the area of goalkeeper and it has caused them a lot of defeat from many teams in this season and it has made them not to top in their group in the champion league competition. Based on their performance in this season, showed that Bayern Munich will take a good lead in this match and it will end up for the favour of Bayern Munich to embrace the three points to make their fans happy. Despite if Bayern Munich loose in this match they will still remain in the first position in this group, I don't think Bayern Munich strikers will allow Manchester united to win this match, because they are very ready to score goals that will make people to believed that they will go far in this tournament.

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Jude Bellingham's contribution so far with Real Madrid in the Champions League group stages and he has been consistent in scoring goals and assists in every match. The only match he missed was against Braga in the second round and at that time Jude Bellingham had to be absent because he still had a shoulder injury. I wonder if in the last match against Union Berlin he will score another goal and that will at least put his name at the top in the competition to be the top scorer in the Champions League this season. Even though Real Madrid are certain to qualify with 5 wins in a row, of course they still want to perform optimally, especially since this is also an away match against Union Berlin and Real Madrid of course still wants to extend their unbeaten record in this competition.

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Quote from: Essential10 on December 11, 2023, 11:15:17 PM

PSV Eindhoven Vs Arsenal
PSV Eindhoven will be looking to maintain their strong home form and secure a positive result against Arsenal. PSV are unbeaten in their last 6 matches and will be looking for revenge today match. Despite being the better team on paper, Arsenal will need to bounce back from their recent defeat in the domestic league and put in a strong performance in this Champions League fixture. Meanwhile, Arsenal have reached the next round and PSV have one step to reach the next round, if today's match is drawn, PSV will reach the next round. Although there is a difficult equation, if PSV loses today's match and RC Lens wins the other match If they do then both teams will have equal points even though PSV is much ahead on goal difference. However both teams will be eager to secure a win. I think Arsenal can win today's match 2-1.

Arsenal is in the safe position right now. The only problem whether arsenal will have intention to beat PSG or it will not be playing seriously against it otherwise. In fact, the safe position is obviously making arsenal will not try to hard to beat PSV.
PSV is very weak right now and arsenal is above of it in everything. I have no doubt that arsenal to win the game against PSG if it will be playing seriously. People were not even caring so much about that.

Im feeling scary to pick on this match. It's caused by arsenal potentially to perform with the secondary squad. It makes me feel doubt that if arsenal will able to win against PSV which is using the main squad caused by it has not yet in the good position.
I would pick BTTS for this match. It seems like that the output is very hard to guess it.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 11, 2023, 03:51:31 PM

Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 11, 2023, 03:33:08 PM

With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.

Lol, it's that bad. Well i would not disagree with you, it would be a miracle if Manchester United were to qualify, absolutely everything will have to work in their favor, but we all know how difficult it is for things to pan out that way. United do not even deserve to make it out of the group stage, their performances have been extremely poor, and i'd be rooting for Copenhagen to qualify, because they were the underdog in the group that nobody gave any chance, but now they have a huge chance of qualifying for the RO16.

Of course, only a miracle can bring Manchester United to the last 16. Bayern Munich is a strong team, they are always consistent in every match, even though Tuchel rotates by playing second layer players, Bayern Munich is still very strong for Manchester United. Manchester United not only depends on its own fate, but also hopes on the results of other matches.
Yes, Manchester United's performance was very bad, especially in the Group stage and several matches in the EPL. They also deserve to enter the round of 16 if they are lucky in the last match, but the scenario of Manchester United qualifying is very small because apart from having to rely on themselves they also hope on the results of other matches.

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Man U and Bayern Munich lost their last games in the domestic leagues with big scores... By the way both results surprised me a lot, especially Bayern, who are in first place in the group... They don't need a win now and even if they lose, they will remain in first place... I think it will be an interesting match...

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 11, 2023, 04:40:19 PM

Group A is going to be really exciting to follow tomorrow. Grin

Because it is still pretty complicated except Bayern Munich's situation in the group. Manchester United are technically the most disadvantageous team due to having one less points than Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They have no other chance than winning against Bayern Munich to have a chance for next stage.

They actually need it even for the Europa League. They will just hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray match. However I don't think they will get what they want from that. Because I think Galatasaray will manage to win this match and finish as 2nd.

Manchester United really needs a miracle in their today's match against Bayern Munich. Even though Manchester United managed to beat Bayern Munich at Old Trafford they will hope that Copenhagen and Galatasaray should be a draw match, so that they can reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League.

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Quote from: Godday on December 11, 2023, 11:52:46 PM

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Group A is going to be really exciting to follow tomorrow. Grin

Because it is still pretty complicated except Bayern Munich's situation in the group. Manchester United are technically the most disadvantageous team due to having one less points than Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They have no other chance than winning against Bayern Munich to have a chance for next stage.

They actually need it even for the Europa League. They will just hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray match. However I don't think they will get what they want from that. Because I think Galatasaray will manage to win this match and finish as 2nd.

Manchester United is the team that suffers the most. Because apart from having to win the match, they also have to wait for the results of the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen. On the other hand, Munich is a team that really benefits. They can even play second-string players or even try to develop the mentality of young players. They are confirmed to be in first place in the group. There's nothing to worry about.

Yeah right. And of course only Bayern will really enjoy the final match in the group stage. Because they can play without having to worry about losing or winning. So playing second tier players seems like what they will do. Meanwhile, Man United seems to be playing with great uncertainty. Because they have to win but also have to hope that Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. The possibility of a match ending in a draw in this important match is definitely very small. I think Man United could even fail to get a ticket to the Europa League. And will only be at the bottom of group A. But miracles can happen and it will really be very exciting to watch.

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Quote from: Antotena on December 11, 2023, 04:26:27 PM

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Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.

Bayern Munich are not different from Manchester United because the two lost their two matches in big disappointment but there is something I will like you to understand. Tuchel had one of his bad moment last week in their last games, so I expected them to put that revenge on Manchester United. I'm not saying Man U will not play good game against them but I think Bayern has high chance of winning that match than Manchester United by players, by stamina and last 5 performances from their last matches.

No matter what happen, each team from that team has played good games in the group stage but if it was Manchester United of before that was in that group, even Bayern will not have the kind of chance they got but it's pity that Manchester United has not been in good form lately. I want to see them impress people in this impress people that they have tried even though the chance is low from making it out from here.

Maybe you are right Tomas Tuchel felt the need to answer yesterday's heavy defeat with a win in the Champions League to prove that the defeat did not destroy them even though it was very surprising for the fans and I think the players also felt bad when they saw the final score of the match against Frankfurt.
But the question is, is carrying out proof a wise thing? Bayern Munich has the opportunity to rest their several core players to be fitter for the more important match in the Bundesliga because they will face Stuttgart because even a draw in this match will make them increasingly criticized.
Bayern Munich will play with reserve players or core players, which is still a question, but it looks like their chances of playing with more second-tier players are greater than the chances of playing the main, and only play them when feel the need to do so.
From this group, the most interesting one is the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match and there is no team that is superior except for the host factor.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 11, 2023, 04:40:19 PM

Group A is going to be really exciting to follow tomorrow. Grin

Because it is still pretty complicated except Bayern Munich's situation in the group. Manchester United are technically the most disadvantageous team due to having one less points than Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They have no other chance than winning against Bayern Munich to have a chance for next stage.

They actually need it even for the Europa League. They will just hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray match. However I don't think they will get what they want from that. Because I think Galatasaray will manage to win this match and finish as 2nd.

Manchester United is the team that suffers the most. Because apart from having to win the match, they also have to wait for the results of the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen. On the other hand, Munich is a team that really benefits. They can even play second-string players or even try to develop the mentality of young players. They are confirmed to be in first place in the group. There's nothing to worry about.

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Quote from: Coyster on December 11, 2023, 03:51:31 PM

Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 11, 2023, 03:33:08 PM

With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.

Lol, it's that bad. Well i would not disagree with you, it would be a miracle if Manchester United were to qualify, absolutely everything will have to work in their favor, but we all know how difficult it is for things to pan out that way. United do not even deserve to make it out of the group stage, their performances have been extremely poor, and i'd be rooting for Copenhagen to qualify, because they were the underdog in the group that nobody gave any chance, but now they have a huge chance of qualifying for the RO16.

If Bayern exert their maximum strength then it is true that Man United will definitely lose. Because there is a very clear difference in strength this season between the two. But if it turns out that Bayern decides not to consider the match important by only fielding second-string players. So I think Man United has a chance to win. Remembering that this is a home match for Man United.

But I agree that with Man United's current performance, I actually also feel that Man United does not deserve to qualify for the next stage. I would also prefer to see Copenhagen qualify. Because sometimes it's fun to see teams that were underestimated from the start but then produce good results and embarrass the people who underestimated them.

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Quote from: Doell on December 11, 2023, 04:32:55 PM

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Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.

The match between Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the Domestic League was very disappointing, the performance of these both teams in the last match was indeed shaky. But Bayern Munich performance in the UCL really fantastic so far, very different with Manchester United performance, and in tomorrow match Bayern Munich on paper may will probably be favorite rather than Manchester United. Although that match will be played at the home of the Red Devils, but perhaps the possibility for Manchester United to win is low.
But also this match will not be too important for Bayern Munich, because they are guaranteed to qualify, and maybe Bayern Munich will have fun in that game. Meanwhile for Manchester United tomorrow is a very important match for them, team Ten Hag is under tremendous pressure to win, so the final result maybe very difficult to predict.

No, Bayern Munich is much better than Manchester United in their respective Domestic Leagues.
Just look at Bayern Munich only got 1 defeat and they are still in second place behind Leverkusen with difference of 4 points, this still proves that Bayern Munich is quite good in the Bundesliga.
This is different from Manchester United, which has suffered 7 defeats in the Premier League.
There are quite significant differences between the two teams and even though Manchester United will have the advantage due to the home match, it is not guaranteed because previously Manchester United also lost several times in their home matches.
Bayern Munich are still always the favorites and they are really focused on the UCL competition this season.
Bayern Munich will play carefully to avoid injured players because later in the last 16 they lose key players, that could be very detrimental and of course Tuchel will not let that happen.

Even though Ten Hag did lot for Manchester United in that match, Manchester United is still not difficult opponent to Bayern Munich, and we will see there how Manchester United plays and Ten Hag strategy against strong team like Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 11, 2023, 04:40:19 PM

Group A is going to be really exciting to follow tomorrow. Grin

Because it is still pretty complicated except Bayern Munich's situation in the group. Manchester United are technically the most disadvantageous team due to having one less points than Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They have no other chance than winning against Bayern Munich to have a chance for next stage.

They actually need it even for the Europa League. They will just hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray match. However I don't think they will get what they want from that. Because I think Galatasaray will manage to win this match and finish as 2nd.

Will Bayern Munich give Manchester United a chance? we assume Munich plays the second tier so Manchester United has a chance to win but it's not safe enough because they hope Copenhagen vs Galatasaray will be a draw, well here I'm not sure if the two teams played a draw because Copenhagen is very dangerous when playing at home and overall Copenhagen has a big chance to win the match and qualify, another scenario could happen if Manchester United also draws against Munich and again Copenhagen will be the closest if all the teams in group A draw.

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PSV Eindhoven Vs Arsenal
PSV Eindhoven will be looking to maintain their strong home form and secure a positive result against Arsenal. PSV are unbeaten in their last 6 matches and will be looking for revenge today match. Despite being the better team on paper, Arsenal will need to bounce back from their recent defeat in the domestic league and put in a strong performance in this Champions League fixture. Meanwhile, Arsenal have reached the next round and PSV have one step to reach the next round, if today's match is drawn, PSV will reach the next round. Although there is a difficult equation, if PSV loses today's match and RC Lens wins the other match If they do then both teams will have equal points even though PSV is much ahead on goal difference. However both teams will be eager to secure a win. I think Arsenal can win today's match 2-1.

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Quote from: ancafe on December 11, 2023, 10:30:54 PM

Manchester United is not performing well this season because there are a number of problems within Erik Ten Hak's squad which are affecting them in facing the season's matches in the Premier League and Champions League. So far, Manchester United have only collected one win in the group and only one match remains in the preliminary round. Facing Bayern Munich's much better strength, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are quite small.

Manchester United not performing well in Champion League and they will play last match against Bayern Munich as life and die match, with internal problem about Erik ten Hag must sack or not and Manchester United on crucial position will make difficult for United will get one place for next round? Manchester United chance qualifying to round of 16 are quite small because need waiting result match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray. If can't qualify on 16 round in Champion League, Manchester United must win against Bayern Munich to secure their position in Europe League competition.

Current last several Champion League matches, I think Manchester United vs Bayern Munich and Copenhagen vs Galatasaray is most excited match tonight and interested to know who will eliminated from Champion League.

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UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE group game comes to an end this week, would it be the end for Manchester United this season? Only time will tell when they face one of the deadliest team in UCL, talking about the current champions of Bundesliga Bayern Munich.
A rough passage for the red devils, would this game bring back their lost mojo, that if they win? I can't really tell but all I know is that Manchester United have to beat the group leaders to get that qualification into the next round, that would only happen if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray end in a draw. Is really a rough road for United this season.
To me I don't see Bayern losing tis game to Manchester United because they have to correct that first game they almost had a draw with the EPL team.
Some fans has already given up on this game and I feel is the best thing to do. I'd say the home team, just go out there and have fun because nothing positive will come out of this game.

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Quote from: klidex on December 10, 2023, 10:55:39 PM

As a head coach, indeed supposed to have a bigs responsibility, but Manchester United current situation is really a mess, whether in the Premier League or in the Champions League. I don't thought this club to experience a significant decline.
I thinks Erik Ten Hag is the right manager for Manchester United, however, turn out to be the same as the previous manager, only at the beginning they were able to prove the best, but as times went by, they began to be unable to stabilize the performance composition of the Manchester United. Management team they should start taking actions now before it is too late, even though it is actually already too late, but at least there is still time to improved and focus on match in Premier League so that next season Manchester has another chances to playing in the UEFA Champions League, where this season Manchester United seems difficult to get through to the next rounds.

In addition to Manchester United coach also has a problem with the players he has because there are still a number of players who look very selfish. Defeat when facing Bayern Munich in the last match of the group stage could endanger his position and will be increasingly threatened with dismissal. Manchester United fans are known to be quite critical and loud, they will voicing the dismissal when the coach continues to give bad results so that it can influence management's decision to fire the coach.

Manchester United is not performing well this season because there are a number of problems within Erik Ten Hak's squad which are affecting them in facing the season's matches in the Premier League and Champions League. So far, Manchester United have only collected one win in the group and only one match remains in the preliminary round. Facing Bayern Munich's much better strength, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are quite small.

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