Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 697. (Read 141787 times)

MU has not yet failed but it was almost losing a chance to be qualified for the UCL caused by it has less points compared to the copenhagen and galatasaray. Seeing one of club win from that game is going to be another disaster for manchester united.
This is the last chance owned by MU yet it will be determining from the match between copenhagen vs galatasaray. We will see that whether MU fans will be smile or cry soon.
We will see that the fate of MU in UCL. Im doubting MU will be passing the group stage caused by the chance is almost zero.

I am sorry I have to object to your collective opinions. I really want to differ from what you guys are saying and I am confident to say that Manchester United problem is not the coach. Even if Erik Ten Hang is not a super coach as Guardiola or Klopp or Zidane, if he is provided with what he needs, he can take Manchester United to glory. I will instead say that Manchester United problems is in two;

• Unavailability of quality world class players 
• Uncommittedness of existing players

Anyone who understands football very well can agree with me that the only world class player available in Manchester United now is Bruno. Manchester United need to sign quality players to take them to another level of competition.

In terms of commitment, the players score zero. They only match I can confess that they played with all amount of determination is the match against Chelsea and we saw how excellent they were in the match.

I am not sure what to think about that game against Frankfurt and its impact on the game against Manchester United. It could also be a sign for Manchester United that there is a possibility to beat Bayern Munich. Everyone knows that Manchester United is out of shape, but still seeing how Bayern Munich played, I think that can only feed Manchester United's optimism.

It's also the question how Tuchel wants to approach that game with his team. Does he care about winning it? Will he tell his players to give their maximum? It could be a lots of approaches possible. He would not want to risk any injuries but at the same time a loss could be bad for their mental stability. Losing against Frankfurt and then perhaps against Manchester United would feel like a mini crisis for them.

It seems like a lot of people agree that if Erik Ten Hag was fired from coaching and I also think the same, Erik Ten Hag is not a suitable manager for Manchester United. The management should have known about Erik Ten Hag's performance so far so they don't continue to keep bad coaches like Ten Hag.
There are still many games left if Manchester United doesn't immediately change coaches then Manchester United will continue to decline and I believe the decision to fire Ten Hag is a decision that must be taken now before it is too late. Let's see if after Mancester United suffered defeat with Bayern Munich whether United management will immediately fire Ten Hag there is no other reason to maintain his poor performance.

We have seen Man United performance since the start of the season and up to now the Ten Hag squad is not completely stable, therefore it is natural that in the match against Bayern Munich they will not be at the top, and will most likely lose points, even though we know The match will take place at Old Trafford.

It is true, when he saw that opportunities in the UCL were starting to run out, Ten Hag should have shifted his team focus to the EPL. Because if they want to appear again next season they have to be able to finish in the top four of the standings, a job that is not easy, and they have to avoid defeat like that of Bournemouth.

I think there is still hope for United to recover, but first Ten Hag must change the way he manages the dressing room, by using a different approach, and not being too harsh on his players. On the other hand, he must give appreciation to players who perform well by praising them, how can we expect something good to come, if their presence in the team does not get full recognition.

I will agree with you very much because qualifying for the round of 16 isn't the biggest issues here but been able to play like a team you wants to win the trophy at the end of the day, they can possibly qualify for the round of 16 and still crash out from there and it will become very obvious that it was needless qualifying for the round of sixteen because they still didn't make anything good out of it.

If they did had a good performance and probably it turned out they having hard luck that's why they are struggling then we could consider they if they get pass group stage, they could improve at the round of 16 but then in this case they are not even performing well on the pitch, I think there are some lingering internal crises with the team which they have to settle first before thinking of proceeding with big competition as the UCL, if they can focus on settling every outstanding issues and put the team in order, they will have the stamina and enthusiasm to face the competition, by their attitude it's obvious there are dressing room issues which they are yet to bring to the media.

Munich lost their last encounter with Frankfurt, so it's definitely going to have an impact in their UCL faceoffs tomorrow against United, either positively or negatively. The both teams lost but Munich lost away from home and United lost at home. Of the both teams, Munich is the better side and their winning chances are high too. United have not been consistent and this season they've not actually been in their average form. Tomorrow's game is important and it still doesn't rest on just their shoulders. The outcome of the entire Group A games would determine the fate of every of the teams in the group.

 Munich will be the visitors tomorrow and at this time, United have the advantage but will the outcome of their last EPL home game affect their mental preparedness and confidence in the game? Even if Munich are a better side, it's only left for United to capitalize on being the host to make the difference, and then pray that Galatasaray and Copenhagen result ends in their favor too. But still, for me I'd only advise Ten Hag to do his best and leave the rest, his chase should be majored on the domestic league cups and securing a ticket to next season's European contests too. But we definitely hope to see that they advance through to the next stage of the contest.

Because Bayern Munich conceded goals as high as 5 from Frankfurt doesn't place them in a disadvantage position against Manchester United. Beside, there is a very big difference between champions league and Bundes liga. Frankfurt from time has known how to win against Bayern, the only surprising thing in the match is the number od goals that was scored Bayern Munich and not that they were defeated. You should also consider that lossing last match will mean stepping up in the next match because Bayern Munich might not want to lose twice consecutively.


I have never read anything in the media about Manchester United management threatening Erik Ten Hang directly or indirectly. Although, we all know that poor performance ushers sack but I don't think ETH is under pressure of sack as the management is already applauding him for being disciplined towards the players.

Manchester United's performance is very poor right now. Qualifying for the round of 16 is more damaging for Manchester United. Manchester United should now focus only on the Premier League. and stabilizing their performance. Despite qualifying for the round of 16, United are unlikely to win any knockout round matches. Ten Hag might have enough time to stabilize his squad if Manchester United don't have a BC schedule. The chances of players getting injured will also decrease. Manchester United's performance is likely to stabilize.

Since the draw against Galatasaray at that time, I have lost confidence that it will be very difficult for MU to qualify for the next round because Bayern Munich not a club that can be taken lightly and also Bayern Munich will not let MU beat them because Munich current goal is to be undefeated and MU hopes of a draw are very slim.
There no chance for the club coached by Erik Ten Hag except to hope that they can improve their performance to get the best position in  Premier League, but there they are still inconsistent and sometimes perform very badly.
I'm just imagining that if there is a surprise that MU can beat Bayern Munich, wouldn't it be MU luck this season to be able to continue the match in the European league and I'm just imagining this.

Yes as I said before, it's a normal thing when they receive a defeat, but with the score so crushing I can't believe it can happen to them.
In the Champions League, they are already very safe and actually they only need to wait for who will be their opponent in the round of 16 later. But even so, surely they will maintain their prestige not to lose to the Premier League club, Manchester United. I don't think they want to be beaten, but they also won't be ambitious to win because it will be a risk for them, and I think this is an opportunity for them to keep their players from unwanted things. So a draw will probably be their target.



Whether they want to go to the Europa League or want a place in the round of 16, the scenario is still the same, they need to win their last match. The only difference is that they will not depend on the results of the match between Galatasaray if they want to go to the Europa League, except when they want a ticket to the last 16 of the Champions League they depend on other matches.
I don't think they have to think about that scenario now, but what they have to think about is how they can win the match against Bayern Munich later, that's all.

Their focus should not be divided and should only focus on their matches, because if their focus is divided, it is also not good for their mentality.

What an interesting coincidence: bookmakers estimate the probability of United qualifying from the group and the probability of United finishing in the top 4 in the Premier League almost the same - the odds are 8. This is approximately 12%, yes, it is not 0% and there are theoretical chances, but it seems to me that it is already possible to “reliably” say that United failed the season in the two most important competitions.
There is a game with Bayern ahead and, firstly, United is clearly not one to count on winning, and secondly, even if United wins, they will have to hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray game. Maybe ardent fans believe in such outcomes, but not me.
In the Premier League, the next game is against Liverpool away - it is also difficult to imagine that Liverpool, having smelled the title, will not win at home.
My prediction is that after these two games (If they are unsuccessful for United) Ten Hag will be sacked.

The difficulties with Manchester United has got to be from the Glazers. Too many of the fans wants results but they don't know ans even if they do, they forget too fast that the Glazers are yet to leave the club and at the same time, not support the club fully. Anyways, Erik Ten Hag has failed to an extent, and it's good to see he has taken responsibility of all of them errors and blinders.

Against Bayern Munich, thats Gon be a difficult game even at Old Trafford. I was expecting a good show and good preparations against Bournemouth but they didn't do enough. They failed to repeat the same performance against Chelsea. It does feels like they need more energy and depth.

Unstable play this season has become the norm for Manchester United, so I wasn’t even surprised when I saw that Manchester United lost to Bournemouth, I didn’t watch the game, but it looks like I didn’t lose anything. Obviously, the completion of the group stage of the Champions League could be a decisive factor for Manchester United, if they fail to reach the playoffs, this could be a reason for his dismissal, because Copenhagen and Galatasaray should have been more than passable opponents for Manchester United.

It is very likely that Manchester United only has a fairly small chance of qualifying for the round of 16 because the last match was the most difficult for them. I think Manchester United should be able to try to qualify for the European League by securing third place. Manchester United missed opportunities when they faced Galatasaray in the previous match and that was a big mistake they made. I think the match against Bayern Munich will be quite crucial for Manchester United because they are playing at home and if they lose they will be criticized by their own fans.

Luck will depend on the other match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray because if this match ends in a draw and Manchester United wins, of course Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16.
But this scenario is quite unlikely to come true but in football there are always surprises that happen and we will see what will happen in group A in the last match they play.

Manchester United still has a chance to secure a ticket to the Europa League, the condition is that they must be able to beat Bayern Munich and hope that Copenhagen can beat Galatasaray or vice versa. The last match which will be held at Old Trafford must be used as momentum for Manchester United to achieve victory so they can qualify for the Europa League, but if the other match ends in a draw, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. For Manchester United, this match is very important, while Bayern Munich will not be too motivated to chase victory because they are certain to qualify as group winners.

We just need to ignore Manchester United's chances of qualifying from the group phase, because being able to win against Bayern Munich is still not enough to get them to be ranked second in Group A, their fate is still determined by the results of other matches, so we assume they have failed in the Champions League and the most realistic target for Manchester United is to win the match to qualify for the European League play-off round because the Galasataray vs Copenhagen match has a high chance of ending with one of the teams winning the match instead of a draw, and also with a heavy defeat against Bournemouth it might be the mentality of Manchester United's players was even worse because of another defeat at Old Trafford and from a team that could be said to be below them in quality.

MU can get europa league as long as it will able to win against bayern. This is a mandatory for manchester united. I meant if one of teams from the match between copenhagen vs galatasaray will be losing then MU can also have 2 points more compared to the loser from that match.
So, i can say that if manchester united will able to qualify for the upcoming round in europa league as long as it will be able to win against bayern. Winning the game vs bayern becmoes a mandatory for manchester united.

There are two possibilities if MU will be able to win against bayern.

1. Qualify for the last 16
2. Quality for the europa league.

MU can get one from those options as long as it will be winning against bayern. That will be far better rather than do nothing.

I hope United loses this game too so there will be no choice foe the team management but to sack Ten Haag which for me is the root evil of all things happening to them.They are losing every single game lately and even lost to Bournemouth this last weekend at home.This will be a very difficult game for Manchester and most likely no good will come from this otherwise this would be a big surprise for the good for them.

Manchester United really benefited in this match. But Munich really came without any burden. United have a lot of pressure because they must win this match while Bayern only need to play for the sixth match in the group stage. They have 100% qualified for the next round as first place. So I think Bayern will benefit more because they can play without any pressure.