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legendary
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December 11, 2023, 04:41:51 PM
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Bayern usually have shocking lost every seasons so you can not judge them with that performance but true man united has a good chance of winning especially if the team is ready to fight for the win and I believe this because in the first match nobody expected man united to lose with a goal difference we all thought it would be an higher margin. Let just see how serious and prepared are they against bayern tomorrow
There are many people hoping that Bayern Munich will not win the match against Manchester United. Of course, this is very possible because Manchester United should be able to play better at home. Bayern Munich doesn't have any problems if they lose to Manchester United, but maybe Bayern Munich still wants to prove that they won't embarrass themselves with a heavy defeat.

Losing to Manchester United in the final match of the group stage will no longer mean anything for Bayern Munich, except prestige. Bayern Munich will play a match that may be somewhat fun, but they will not be as serious as the previous 5 matches to ensure qualification for the round of 16. I believe Manchester United can win their home game, but maybe it won't be as easy as they imagine.
legendary
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December 11, 2023, 04:40:19 PM
Group A is going to be really exciting to follow tomorrow.  Grin  Because it is still pretty complicated except Bayern Munich's situation in the group. Manchester United are technically the most disadvantageous team due to having one less points than Copenhagen and Galatasaray. They have no other chance than winning against Bayern Munich to have a chance for next stage.

They actually need it even for the Europa League. They will just hope for a draw in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray match. However I don't think they will get what they want from that. Because I think Galatasaray will manage to win this match and finish as 2nd.
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December 11, 2023, 04:32:55 PM
With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.
Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.
The match between Bayern Munich and Manchester United in the Domestic League was very disappointing, the performance of these both teams in the last match was indeed shaky. But Bayern Munich performance in the UCL really fantastic so far, very different with Manchester United performance, and in tomorrow match Bayern Munich on paper may will probably be favorite rather than Manchester United. Although that match will be played at the home of the Red Devils, but perhaps the possibility for Manchester United to win is low.
But also this match will not be too important for Bayern Munich, because they are guaranteed to qualify, and maybe Bayern Munich will have fun in that game. Meanwhile for Manchester United tomorrow is a very important match for them, team Ten Hag is under tremendous pressure to win, so the final result maybe very difficult to predict.
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December 11, 2023, 04:26:27 PM
Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.

Bayern Munich are not different from Manchester United because the two lost their two matches in big disappointment but there is something I will like you to understand. Tuchel had one of his bad moment last week in their last games, so I expected them to put that revenge on Manchester United. I'm not saying Man U will not play good game against them but I think Bayern has high chance of winning that match than Manchester United by players, by stamina and last 5 performances from their last matches.

No matter what happen, each team from that team has played good games in the group stage but if it was Manchester United of before that was in that group, even Bayern will not have the kind of chance they got but it's pity that Manchester United has not been in good form lately. I want to see them impress people in this impress people that they have tried even though the chance is low from making it out from here.
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December 11, 2023, 04:23:02 PM
With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.
Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.

Yeah I agree with you, in this match we have to see Manchester United from the other side I mean they have more advantages. Firstly, this match will be played at Old Trafford so Manchester United had a reason to win because they understood the conditions , on the other hand this match does not mean anything for Bayern Munich because they are safe as group winners therefore I think Munich will keep several main players to avoid injuries it is clear they will prioritize the more important matches ahead. Well, from the reasons above, Manchester United has the potential to win this match.

Newcastle is also in the same position as Manchester United, as the last match Newcastle had no other choice they have to beat Milan and hope Dortmund beats PSG it may look more difficult but nothing is impossible. In another scenario if Dortmund vs PSG ends in a draw then the total goals will determine so in this case Newcastle must score more goals against Milan because currently Newcastle is 1 goal behind PSG, somehow Newcastle had to win 3-0.
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December 11, 2023, 04:10:28 PM
Bookmakers have nothing to do with it, you have to face the truth - Manchester United have really little chance to win this match. Although in recent EPL matches the team has been performing well, Ten Hag even won the coach of the month and Maguire the player of the month, it was hard to imagine such a thing, but they did it

Yes, super funny thing. Especially considering the fact that United were simply lucky with the calendar of games. And an even funnier thing will happen if after two subsequent games (with Bayern in the Champions League and with Liverpool in the Premier League) which United are likely to lose both, Ten Hag will be sacked. If this happens (two defeats or even a draw with Bayern which is equivalent to a defeat and a defeat against Liverpool) and Ten Hag is sacked, then I will only have one question - why so late? The season is already a complete failure.

I don't agree that the season is a complete failure. In the Champions League, yes, but things happen. In the EPL, they have sort of rectified the situation and it remains only to continue working, because the density of the standings there is off the charts, you can't just break through there. As for the Champions League - I don't see the point in sacking the coach because of this failure
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December 11, 2023, 04:09:16 PM
Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.
Bayern usually have shocking lost every seasons so you can not judge them with that performance but true man united has a good chance of winning especially if the team is ready to fight for the win and I believe this because in the first match nobody expected man united to lose with a goal difference we all thought it would be an higher margin. Let just see how serious and prepared are they against bayern tomorrow
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December 11, 2023, 03:51:31 PM
With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.
Lol, it's that bad. Well i would not disagree with you, it would be a miracle if Manchester United were to qualify, absolutely everything will have to work in their favor, but we all know how difficult it is for things to pan out that way. United do not even deserve to make it out of the group stage, their performances have been extremely poor, and i'd be rooting for Copenhagen to qualify, because they were the underdog in the group that nobody gave any chance, but now they have a huge chance of qualifying for the RO16.
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December 11, 2023, 03:46:57 PM
With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.
Both teams are shaky in performance. First of all, Bayern Munich are not in good form, they lost their previous match 5-1 against Eintracht Frankfurt in bundesliga and Manchester United lost their previous game 3-0 against Bournemouth in EPL. So we can see these clubs are on the same page. Don't underrated English clubs against outsides clubs, they might be struggling in their league but when it comes to UEFA Champions League, we watch a stunning performance from them, they become fierce against their opposition and winning becomes a top priority for them.
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December 11, 2023, 03:35:48 PM
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Both team have slim chance to progress onto Round of 16 with a win and PSG's loss. The reference to the possibility of a miracle reflects the unpredictable nature of football and the potential for unexpected turns of events. Regardless of the outcome, the commitment and effort of the players will likely be crucial in navigating the challenges they face. Fans can always hope for the best, even in challenging circumstances.

Newcastle still able to qualify for the next phase even if PSG doesnt lose. Here are the possible scenarios:

PSG draw or lose against Dortmund and Newcastle win against Milan =Newcastle qualify
PSG draw against Dortmund and Newcastle lose or draw against Milan = PSG qualify
PSG lose against Dortmund and Newcastle lose against Milan = Milan qualify
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December 11, 2023, 03:33:08 PM
I absolutely agree.
It was a very bad defeat for Bayern Munich, no one expected them to lose 5-1.
They will prepare seriously for the M.United game to make up for it. It's unfortunate for M.United. If they hadn't been defeated like that in the league, maybe M.United could have won.
They don't have to prepare seriously, they're already qualified for the next round, even Bayern Munich lose as big as 30 goals by Manchester United, it doesn't change their position.

I still believe Bayern Munich will not lose against Manchester United, Manchester United is really a weak team.
With the present performance of Manchester United, Bayern Munich does not need to do anything before they can beat Manchester United because even though it is Bayern Munich's second-eleven Manchester United can not still beat them.
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December 11, 2023, 03:05:13 PM
The defeat against Atalanta in Serie-A, might affect AC Milan confidence. I personally expected Milan to win the match, unfortunately Milan had to play with 10 players, and lose. In the match against Newcastle, there will definitely be pressure on the Milan players, because 3 points is a must, to take Milan to the UEL. Of course this is very difficult with Milan's current condition, maybe there will be a miracle that will bring Milan to qualify for the UEL, although maybe there will be no hope for Milan to reach the final.
Tomorrow will definitely a big day, it's all going to be decided and we are going to end up seeing how it all ends. I do believe that it has been one of the most entertaining group stages in a long time, all that group A, bayern and united vs copenhagen and galatasaray games are so exciting to see and I believe that we are going to end up seeing things change a lot without a doubt, it's going to be quite entertaining to see.

I get that it's not going to be easy to handle, but it's not going to be all that impossible to handle neither, we are going to end up with something that should be fun to watch. Tomorrow evening I am going to be able to get dual screen on, and just watch both games at the same time, will be super fun.

I expect Milan to come out victorious in this game, their loss to Atalanta not withstanding, this is the champioms league and not the serie A and considering what is at stake I think milan are gonna pull some strings in this match. They beat PSG after coming from behind and I think they can repeat that feat again, all they need right now is the right mentality before getting into the game, I really don't wanna write them off because in this stage of the champions League, great things do happen.
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December 11, 2023, 02:56:24 PM
Bayern Munich is still definitely stronger compared to Manchester United. And I don't think they are going to lose against Manchester United. And we also understand that the reason why Bayern Munich lost the match against Frankfurt was them not taking the match seriously. They tried to play the rotation players a little too much, and that was their downfall.
Bayern Munich can lose even though they are stronger than Manchester United because a strong team can lose when they are predicted to win. With Manchester United's poor game, I think the speculation that Bayern Munich is stronger than Manchester United and that it is difficult for Man United to win against Bayern Munich is more likely to happen because Bayern Munich is no longer distracted considering that they already have one ticket to advance to the next round. Just the draw received by Bayern Munich has knocked Man United out.
Bayern Munchen no longer sees the match against Man United as a very important match, because we know their position is untouchable in the standings to advance to the round of 16. However, on paper, even though Bayern lost 5-1 in their previous match against Frankfurt, they are more promising to recover, than Man United who also lost their last match to Bournemouth. I think Tuchel will use United as an outlet, by beating Ten Hag squad, then the spotlight on yesterday embarrassing defeat will automatically shift to United.

Surprises could happen, but considering, considering and looking at the head to head record between the two, Bayern deserves to be superior even though they act as the visiting team. I don't think Tuchel will rest many of his core players, he doesn't want to repeat a similar defeat tomorrow, and what is clear is that they want to maintain an unbeaten record in the group phase. Then, United would crash out of the UCL and fail to advance to the Europa League play-offs, and Ten Hag fate would hang in the balance.
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December 11, 2023, 02:46:50 PM
PSG are still under danger now. They can still find themselves in the Europa League after the last group games. Because their general performance hasn't been decent and their last game won't be easy for them. The positive part that could be in favour of them is that Dortmund have guaranteed qualifying for last 16.

Therefore Dortmund could play more comfortably against PSG in the last game. PSG have been really inadequate in away games in the group until now. However this is a critical game against a team like this.

I feel like PSG will find a way to win to secure their qualification. Because I believe that Newcastle - Milan game won't end in a draw.
Seeing as the bookies' betting markets seem to favor PSG as the away team, here we can see if Dortmund will play some second string players? In theory they've already qualified only PSG will be pushing hard in this final game to decide their fate.

I'm starting to believe that PSG can find a way to win, this is crucial so the match must be important to them, but PSG will be pressing because their chances are still quite large compared to other teams that are as deep as the group.

My scenario is: Maybe PSG wins and Newcastle also wins but the number of points PSG has is much higher so this club will qualify.
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December 11, 2023, 02:42:55 PM
Manchester United still has a chance to secure a ticket to the Europa League, the condition is that they must be able to beat Bayern Munich and hope that Copenhagen can beat Galatasaray or vice versa. The last match which will be held at Old Trafford must be used as momentum for Manchester United to achieve victory so they can qualify for the Europa League, but if the other match ends in a draw, then Manchester United will qualify for the round of 16. For Manchester United, this match is very important, while Bayern Munich will not be too motivated to chase victory because they are certain to qualify as group winners.
It is true, they will join the group stage in Europa League if they succeed to beat Bayern Munich in the final match. If Copenhagen or Galatasaray wins the final match, Man United will finish in the 3rd place. So, they will qualify for the group stage of Europa League. I think it is not a very bad result if they still can compete in Europa League. At least, Man United will have the chance to win a trophy of Europa League. But if they fail to win against Bayern Munich, Man United will have no chance in all international competitions (UCL and Europa League). So, for the final match, it is a must to win against Bayern Munich. I'm sure Man United will play all out for the match.


Since Bayern Munich is guaranteed to be the leader in the next round, I do not expect them to play with the main squad in the match they will play against the Red Devils. Tuchel will try some of the players he wants to watch in the last match. Manchester, on the other hand, will take the field with its best squad and play to win no matter what. If they win the match, there is no possibility of them coming last in the group depending on the result of the next match. They will continue the European cups.
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December 11, 2023, 02:34:07 PM
PSG are still under danger now. They can still find themselves in the Europa League after the last group games. Because their general performance hasn't been decent and their last game won't be easy for them. The positive part that could be in favour of them is that Dortmund have guaranteed qualifying for last 16.

Therefore Dortmund could play more comfortably against PSG in the last game. PSG have been really inadequate in away games in the group until now. However this is a critical game against a team like this.

I feel like PSG will find a way to win to secure their qualification. Because I believe that Newcastle - Milan game won't end in a draw.
So far Newcastle and Milan are the outsiders in the group. PSG are playing better, but I agree that it is impossible to predict anything in this group. It's the most interesting group of all. Apart from Dortmund, no one is guaranteed to go through.

The Newcastle team wants to qualify for the knockout rounds. They are now fully focused on the Champions League. The Newcastle team is quite strong this season and their performances are very good. They have managed to defeat teams like PSG in Champions League matches. And away managed to draw the match. They will host AC Milan in the next match. The current performance of the Milan team is very erratic. The players are also not performing well. In such a situation, Newcastle team seems to be my favorite in this match. This team's performance is stronger in home matches.
It is unclear what Milan will do. Sometimes they play very badly, sometimes they have great matches. They play inconsistently, so they can play good or bad in the Newcastle game. Frankly, I expect a win from Newcastle United. They have no other chance to advance to the next round of the Champions League.
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December 11, 2023, 02:30:38 PM
Bayern Munich is still definitely stronger compared to Manchester United. And I don't think they are going to lose against Manchester United. And we also understand that the reason why Bayern Munich lost the match against Frankfurt was them not taking the match seriously. They tried to play the rotation players a little too much, and that was their downfall.
Bayern Munich can lose even though they are stronger than Manchester United because a strong team can lose when they are predicted to win. With Manchester United's poor game, I think the speculation that Bayern Munich is stronger than Manchester United and that it is difficult for Man United to win against Bayern Munich is more likely to happen because Bayern Munich is no longer distracted considering that they already have one ticket to advance to the next round. Just the draw received by Bayern Munich has knocked Man United out.
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December 11, 2023, 02:16:02 PM
PSG are still under danger now. They can still find themselves in the Europa League after the last group games. Because their general performance hasn't been decent and their last game won't be easy for them. The positive part that could be in favour of them is that Dortmund have guaranteed qualifying for last 16.

Therefore Dortmund could play more comfortably against PSG in the last game. PSG have been really inadequate in away games in the group until now. However this is a critical game against a team like this.

I feel like PSG will find a way to win to secure their qualification. Because I believe that Newcastle - Milan game won't end in a draw.
So far Newcastle and Milan are the outsiders in the group. PSG are playing better, but I agree that it is impossible to predict anything in this group. It's the most interesting group of all. Apart from Dortmund, no one is guaranteed to go through.

The Newcastle team wants to qualify for the knockout rounds. They are now fully focused on the Champions League. The Newcastle team is quite strong this season and their performances are very good. They have managed to defeat teams like PSG in Champions League matches. And away managed to draw the match. They will host AC Milan in the next match. The current performance of the Milan team is very erratic. The players are also not performing well. In such a situation, Newcastle team seems to be my favorite in this match. This team's performance is stronger in home matches.
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December 11, 2023, 01:38:07 PM
PSG are still under danger now. They can still find themselves in the Europa League after the last group games. Because their general performance hasn't been decent and their last game won't be easy for them. The positive part that could be in favour of them is that Dortmund have guaranteed qualifying for last 16.

Therefore Dortmund could play more comfortably against PSG in the last game. PSG have been really inadequate in away games in the group until now. However this is a critical game against a team like this.

I feel like PSG will find a way to win to secure their qualification. Because I believe that Newcastle - Milan game won't end in a draw.
So far Newcastle and Milan are the outsiders in the group. PSG are playing better, but I agree that it is impossible to predict anything in this group. It's the most interesting group of all. Apart from Dortmund, no one is guaranteed to go through.
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December 11, 2023, 01:35:22 PM
I see the odds from the Manchester United and Bayern munich game, and the bookies seems to think that Bayern is gonna play without so much effort, because they have the same odds for a victory... i dont know if that is gonna happen.

Thinking about how bad Manchester United arrrives to this game, for me is a golden opportunity for Bayern to make a historic victory on Old Trafford.
It's hard to believe that Man United can win... At Old Trafford is not a scary place for opponents because they are currently always in bad form, the last match must lose at home and that makes their squad weak because the mentality is not solid enough.

Who is willing to bet? I will skip it because it is too risky to choose Man United's victory for their victory, I still don't this will win even though miracles always exist for Erik Ten Hag's army, but it is difficult to understand even though they have some great players but they still lose to low teams.
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