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Quote from: Godday on December 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM

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With the look of things, Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen they all need wining for one club to qualify because there points are almost equal especially Copenhagen and Galatasaray but however among the three teams Copenhagen has the highest chances of qualifying because they are on the second position of the table so even if they draw with Galatasaray and Manchester United also draws with Bayern Munich Copenhagen automatically qualify has as the second position on the table, but perhaps if Galatasaray manages to draw with them and Manchester United eventually wins then they will be the one that will qualify, so there table is actually tight for the three clubs especially for Manchester United.

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

In the first leg the two clubs drew with a score of 2-2 at home to Galatasaray, but when looking at the background and considering the importance of the last match of the group phase, I predict there will not be a repeat of the draw. the quality and depth of the squad that Galatasaray has puts it ahead of Copenhagen, that is a fact that needs to be underlined. apart from that, we also cannot ignore another fact, that currently Copenhagen has more points than Galatasaray and Man United.

I think Galatasaray fate is still better than United, because they have two chances, if they fail to get to the last 16 then they have another chance to go to the Europa League. meanwhile, United must wait for a miracle to be able to advance to one of these rounds.

United attracted more attention in group A because of their poor performance, and in the EPL Ten Hag squad just lost to Bournemouth at home with 3-0. So it will definitely be more difficult to beat Bayern in the 6th match, if you refer to their current performance.

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Quote from: Jegileman on December 09, 2023, 11:58:43 AM

Quote from: Godday on December 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

Almost everyone feels the same way as you do, Manchester United will only fight for the Europa League spot instead of the Champions League spot in the next round because it looks very impossible for them to win against Bayern Munich. Between Galatasaray and Copenhagen, I still think the match can’t be decided yet because both teams have the same strength in my opinion to qualify for the next round.

Bayern vs Man Utd will take place at Old Trafford and it will be a very exciting match considering that Man Utd still has a chance to be in second place in Group A if they manage to win against Bauern and the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. But will Copenhagen or Galatasaray just sit there, in the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, I'm sure Galatasaray will win narrowly, while Man Utd will most likely win narrowly too imo.

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Quote from: Godday on December 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

With the performance Manchester united did put up today it's almost most certain that they are going no where in the UCL, worse off they my not even make it to the Europa and that will be a very big blow on ten hag as I will personally consider it one of the biggest failure in his career, they will just have to focus on the EPL where they may find chances.

It's very obvious that Copenhagen and Galatasaray will either draw or have Copenhagen winning, whichever one that happens, Manchester united still don't stand a chance. If Copenhagen wins they automatically qualify onto the next stage of the UCL and Galatasaray will be left with their four points which will take them to the Europa but Manchester united will only have a chance if they win or draw with good number of goals because they still don't have good number of goal aswell.

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The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

Yes, this is one of the tense matches on the last matchday of the Champions League and one of these teams will accompany Barcelona's steps to qualify for the round of 16. A draw is enough for Porto to get second place in group H because they are superior on goal difference and that's why they don't need to worry about playing against Shakhtar.

But even a draw will not make Porto calm and they will make more efforts to win this match. Home advantage is a plus for Porto and they have to score first so they can put more pressure on Shakhtar in the match. I didn't hesitate to bet on Porto winning and that was clear regardless of how Shakhtar would play.

Yes, if Porto only targets a draw, then it is very risky for them, because Shakhtar will certainly die to be able to win this match. If Porto play safe then it will backfire on them, although when they target victory they also have risks. They must play without burden and play as usual, because if they play with a heavy burden on their shoulders it is also something that is not good because it will hinder the development of their own game.
Porto have beaten them before, that will be a very good capital for them.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 09, 2023, 03:47:58 AM

The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

This will be a very tough match for both teams to decide who will join Barcelona in the round of 16. For the statistics, FC Porto have a good winning record against Shaktar in their last five meetings. Shaktar have not won in any of their last five matches with Porto, they’ve got only two draws and three defeats from FC Porto. The match will be very much in favour of FC Porto unless they don’t play well enough to get a win which I think they won’t since it will cost them not to qualify for the round of sixteen.

Quote from: Godday on December 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

Almost everyone feels the same way as you do, Manchester United will only fight for the Europa League spot instead of the Champions League spot in the next round because it looks very impossible for them to win against Bayern Munich. Between Galatasaray and Copenhagen, I still think the match can’t be decided yet because both teams have the same strength in my opinion to qualify for the next round.

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Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich, Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

The scenario in this group is very difficult for the 3 teams that are still struggling, and the difficulty is greater for Manchestre United. Not only do they have to win against Bayern Munich, they also have to ensure that the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen will end with a draw. As for the other two teams (Galatasaray and Copenhagen) their fate is in their own hands. It is undeniable that if Manchester United can finally qualify then it is the great luck they get in this group stage. But it is very difficult, when seeing them have to beat Bayern Munich alone it has become very difficult for them.

There was only one scenario to make united will able to qualify. I meant if copenhagen and galatasaray must not get three points while manchester united needs to get three points from bayern.
This is the sense scenario that may make united will able to qualify for the knock out stage. I don't even see another scnario that will help united to pass the group stage.
There were many people talking this and yeah that's the only chance for manchester united. The match between copenhagen vs galatasaray is a dead or alive match for three teams. Im not really sure which team that is going to pass the group stage along with bayern.

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Quote from: Godday on December 09, 2023, 10:42:23 AM

Quote from: Roseline492 on December 09, 2023, 10:00:57 AM

With the look of things, Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen they all need wining for one club to qualify because there points are almost equal especially Copenhagen and Galatasaray but however among the three teams Copenhagen has the highest chances of qualifying because they are on the second position of the table so even if they draw with Galatasaray and Manchester United also draws with Bayern Munich Copenhagen automatically qualify has as the second position on the table, but perhaps if Galatasaray manages to draw with them and Manchester United eventually wins then they will be the one that will qualify, so there table is actually tight for the three clubs especially for Manchester United.

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

Well, let's look forward to the final result later because ya, basically all three teams still have a chance to be the runner up. Although indeed, there are many scenarios for them to make one of them runner up because ya,the points are still very close together and also the quality that they are basically not much different. At least, with this factor, no one can really be guaranteed to be the runner up . But ya, atleast the results on paper will belong to Galatasaray or Copenhagen because in my prediction, these two teams will not end the match with a draw, because of course they will be ambitious to win in this match and become group runner up.

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Quote from: Roseline492 on December 09, 2023, 10:00:57 AM

With the look of things, Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen they all need wining for one club to qualify because there points are almost equal especially Copenhagen and Galatasaray but however among the three teams Copenhagen has the highest chances of qualifying because they are on the second position of the table so even if they draw with Galatasaray and Manchester United also draws with Bayern Munich Copenhagen automatically qualify has as the second position on the table, but perhaps if Galatasaray manages to draw with them and Manchester United eventually wins then they will be the one that will qualify, so there table is actually tight for the three clubs especially for Manchester United.

I personally favor Galatasaray over Copenhagen for that match. Even though Copenhagen is in second place, for me they both still have the same statistics. Copenhagen is in second place because it has a goal difference of 1 point more. It wouldn't make much of a difference in my opinion. The most difficult opportunity is at Manchester United. No offense but I hope they can do better in the European UEFA league.

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Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich, Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

With the look of things, Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen they all need wining for one club to qualify because there points are almost equal especially Copenhagen and Galatasaray but however among the three teams Copenhagen has the highest chances of qualifying because they are on the second position of the table so even if they draw with Galatasaray and Manchester United also draws with Bayern Munich Copenhagen automatically qualify has as the second position on the table, but perhaps if Galatasaray manages to draw with them and Manchester United eventually wins then they will be the one that will qualify, so there table is actually tight for the three clubs especially for Manchester United.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 09, 2023, 03:47:58 AM

The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

The match is very important for both Porto and Shakhtar. Because both teams have equal points in the points table. And if they win this match, they can move to second place in the table and qualify for the knockout round. Shakhtar's performance in the Champions League is quite good. They have won against big teams like Barcelona. However, Shakhtar's performance in the face-to-face match against Porto is quite poor. Shakhtar team has not won even one of the last 5 matches between these two teams. Porto won three matches and drew two matches. The next match is Porto's home match. It will be more difficult for Shakhtar to beat Porto at their home.

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Quote from: iamsange on December 09, 2023, 12:41:26 AM

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

Actually, Galatasaray and Copenhagen have bigger chance for qualifying to the next round than Manchester United have waiting the other teams matches result. Third teams, Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United have chance qualify to next round but waiting each other match result, crucial for Manchester United with their winning achievement against Bayern Munich its nothing yet if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match result have the winning team.

Manchester United have mission impossible for qualifying to the next round, need winning result from unbeaten team on group round stage Bayern Munich and other way they have looking draw result match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen with both teams won't loss opportunity for getting opportunity to play on 16 round.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 09, 2023, 05:13:48 AM

PSG are going to play a really tough game next time. They have an away game against Dortmund and they had better win this game as well. Because if Newcastle manage to beat Milan home then even a draw isn't going to be enough for PSG to make it to last 16. Newcastle and Milan have the same points though so we could watch a really competitive game there at the same time.

PSG have had a really poor time period in the Champions League so far. They won only twice in five games which was enough to put them in a dangerous situation. If PSG can't even make it to last 16 then I don't know how they can convince Mbappe to stay at the same time.

A draw is the thing that must be avoided the most when facing Dortmund later and I think they are still capable of getting a win even though it is an away game for PSG. Currently the PSG squad has no problems and is ready to appear with full strength in other places. Dortmund is also the same and will definitely not let PSG beat them so easily. Dortmund has been confirmed as advancing to the round of 16, but if PSG gets 3 points from them and is superior on goal difference then Dortmund will have to drop to 2nd place and that will be something they don't want because they will meet another strong team who won the group in another place.

PSG's journey was not good in the group stage, but that can't be separated from the fact that they are in the hellish group and I don't think the results will be optimal either. Defending Mbappe will be more difficult because he also wants to experience the champions league title and we'll just have to wait and see what news there will be next season regarding PSG's star player.

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Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.

I am not even sure if United would be happier with a complete elimination from Europe or with elimination down to the Europa League, if they drop out of Europe completely, it gives them a better chance to focus on the EPL and try to finish in the top four. But if you think about it, winning the Europa League gives an automatic qualification into the CL for the next season and a trophy as well, thus since United are not going to compete for the EPL title, they might be happier with a place in the Europa League and try to win it.

Even if Manchester united is being eliminated from the Champions league I don't think they can still focus in the Premier league games I can't still see where their concentrations falls on. If Manchester United is eliminated to Europa league I don't think if they will be able to win the league because Europa league is also competitive league too that some teams have dedicated their interest to win the league, I doubt if Manchester united will succeed in having the Europa title. Elimination from champions league, their is no possibility they can make it to top four in premier league, the league is so tough this season.

Then I must say you haven't seen them games recently, I think they should have lights shining at the ned of them tunnels. Not so consistent but they'll get there most definitely. Manchester United will, I don't even want them to progress or get demoted to the Europa League Competition which is more difficult than you can imagine.

Lol, There's a good chance they can make it to the top four, the player's and the staffs are fighting every day little steps until they get stronger. I think it was difficult at first last season ans it's same here. They'll need to get there goal scoring players in the right mentality, the defenders doing more of a better job lately.

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PSG are going to play a really tough game next time. They have an away game against Dortmund and they had better win this game as well. Because if Newcastle manage to beat Milan home then even a draw isn't going to be enough for PSG to make it to last 16. Newcastle and Milan have the same points though so we could watch a really competitive game there at the same time.

PSG have had a really poor time period in the Champions League so far. They won only twice in five games which was enough to put them in a dangerous situation. If PSG can't even make it to last 16 then I don't know how they can convince Mbappe to stay at the same time.

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Quote from: iamsange on December 09, 2023, 12:41:26 AM

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Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich, Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

And the chances of a match ending in a draw are actually always very small. So expecting the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match to get a draw is very unlikely. As you said, they will definitely fight to win and will not let the match end in a draw. But yes, even though the possibility is small, a draw can still happen. And that could be a miracle for Man United. But thinking that Man United beat Bayern seems quite difficult. Unless Bayern don't play their core players from the start. And only playing second tier players as the starting eleven.

But if Man United loses in this match then this will be a bad season for Man United in the Champions League. They struggled to get tickets to the Champions League last season. And then now they are only the bottom club in Group A. And even though this season they managed to get tickets to the Champions League again, maybe next season will be the same. And I think the competition in the EPL is now more difficult. So Man United may not be successful in getting tickets to the Champions League next season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 09, 2023, 03:47:58 AM

The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

I think this is a sure win for Porto because they're always enter quarter finals when they're not in a tough group, Shakhtar is just lucky for able to enter Champions League, but they don't have enough power to compete in international league.

For a record, Shakhar never ever won against Porto from all five matches.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 09, 2023, 03:47:58 AM

The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

Yes, this is one of the tense matches on the last matchday of the Champions League and one of these teams will accompany Barcelona's steps to qualify for the round of 16. A draw is enough for Porto to get second place in group H because they are superior on goal difference and that's why they don't need to worry about playing against Shakhtar.

But even a draw will not make Porto calm and they will make more efforts to win this match. Home advantage is a plus for Porto and they have to score first so they can put more pressure on Shakhtar in the match. I didn't hesitate to bet on Porto winning and that was clear regardless of how Shakhtar would play.

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The match between Porto vs Shakhtar is a match that will be very tense for them, yes it is a match that will determine their fate in the Champions League this season. For Porto, a draw is enough for them to ensure they get 1 ticket and accompany Barcelona to the last 16, while for Shakhtar, victory is one way to make them qualify from this group phase. Both clubs will definitely go all out in this match and that will make the match much more interesting to watch. Porto beat them earlier, this is also a revenge match for Shakhtar besides their mission to qualify from the group stage.

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Quote from: iamsange on December 09, 2023, 12:41:26 AM

Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 08, 2023, 10:35:21 PM

Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich, Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

This is a life and death match for Galatasaray and Copenhagen so they will definitely do everything possible to get 3 points and qualify for the next phase.
Both still have a chance to qualify and this last match is the last chance for them to qualify for the next phase. I personally find it difficult to predict who will be able to qualify because everything can still happen in this case including to Manchester United who can indeed have the advantage of the domino effect that will result from the final result of this match.

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Quote from: iamsange on December 09, 2023, 12:41:26 AM

Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 08, 2023, 10:35:21 PM

Even though Manchester United beat Bayern Munich, Manchester United will need Copenhagen and Galatasaray match to end in a draw before they can be able to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen and Galatasaray will likely not end in a draw match because both teams want to qualify for the next round of the Uefa Champions League.

As long as Copenhagen and Galatasaray still have a chance to qualify for the next round, I think both teams will try to achieve it with the abilities they have so the possibility of a draw is very slim although it is also not impossible for that result. However, in general, every team that still has the opportunity to qualify for the next round by winning the match, they will definitely try to win and will not care about the fatigue they have to spend through the match.

Both can be said to have the ability to play effectively, especially in exploiting counter attack situations. So I'm happy whether a win in Copenhagen or Galatasaray definitely has a bit of an edge. Remembering when Copenhagen won against Man United it started during the comeback as did Galatasaray win over Man United. So there is no need to worry about the players abilities on the field. Both can open up space for pressure as well as become opportunities for victory. Because this was a matter of betting, because I didn't want to end in a draw I decided to choose Copenhagen who won by 3 points.

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