Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 698. (Read 141787 times)

Although currently Bayern also had quite bad match results in the Bundesliga because they lost 5-1 to Eintracht Frankfurt. But still I still believe Bayern is still stronger than Man United. And yes, it will even be very difficult for Man United to get tickets to the European League at this time. Because Man United has to beat Bayern if they want to get a ticket to the European League. And it would be very lucky for Man United if Copenhagen could only get a draw against Galatasaray. Because it will make Man United qualify for the round of 16. But if Man United loses then Man United will also fail to get a European League ticket. Even if Copenhagen and Galatasaray get a draw it would still be bad news for Man United if they lose to Bayern. So the only chance for Man United is to beat Bayern.

But the scenario that could happen is that Bayern don't play to their maximum strength and don't play much of their core players. So Man United can have a chance to win.

this makes more sense but last season as far as I know, Man United initially experienced difficulties in the middle of the season and improved again very strongly towards the end of the season so they could finish in 3rd place in the standings and it makes sense to keep Ten Hag after this coach was able to win a ticket to Unfortunately, the UCL is not what Man United expected, it is getting worse and if Ten Hag cannot produce satisfactory results in the EPL or other competitions, it is possible that Ten Hag will soon be fired for many reasons to replace him with a new coach.

and the upcoming match looks like the end of Man United appearance in the UCL because they have to face a big team that has much better performance.

Manchester United is a popular club in the Premier League but their performance is not satisfying the fans at all. Manchester United failed in either the Champions League or the English Premier League. I don't see any possibility of Manchester United that this team can do well in Champions League or Premier League. To do well in either the Premier League or the Champions League, they will need to make significant changes to the game, which they have not been able to do yet. The next Champions League match is against Bayern Munich and that match will be played at Manchester United's home ground. I would definitely favor Bayern Munich to win even if Manchester United have some home ground advantage and even if they don't win by a big margin I believe Bayern Munich can get 3 points against Manchester United.

Agree with you, Manchester United will not necessarily be able to get ticket to compete in the European League because they have to beat Bayern Munich to get third place.
But if the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen ends in draw and Manchester United wins over Bayern Munich then that means Manchester United will qualify for the last 16 because they have 7 points and Galatasaray and Copenhagen will only have 6 points each.
Just can that happen? Will luck favor Manchester United?
I think it just an opportunity with excessive expectations because it impossible for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich.

If this season Manchester United does not have any major competitions apart from the Premier League and in the future they cannot again have safe place for UCL tickets next season then we will see Manchester United with their new coach next season.
For too long, he has relied on Tan Hag, who is full of instability, in providing formations and strategies for the squad he trains.
Manchester United really needs coach who can be relied on with real performance who is able to provide change, not make them fail in various competitions such as the UCL and the European League.

As a head coach, indeed supposed to have a bigs responsibility, but Manchester United current situation is really a mess, whether in the Premier League or in the Champions League. I don't thought this club to experience a significant decline.
I thinks Erik Ten Hag is the right manager for Manchester United, however, turn out to be the same as the previous manager, only at the beginning they were able to prove the best, but as times went by, they began to be unable to stabilize the performance composition of the Manchester United. Management team they should start taking actions now before it is too late, even though it is actually already too late, but at least there is still time to improved and focus on match in Premier League so that next season Manchester has another chances to playing in the UEFA Champions League, where this season Manchester United seems difficult to get through to the next rounds.

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Manchester United homed match cannot be completely superior. Manchester United home match is sometime disappointing, like a few day ago against Bournemouth, even being humiliated by a landslide scored while Bayern Munich has only experienced 1 defeat in the Bundesliga and in Champions League Bayern has not yet experienced a defeated, I thinks Bayern Munich will not continue their bad record in the next matches.

Okay, Harry Maguire and Manchester United's situation is muddled, right? Maguire's growth is admirable. His recent performances have silenced some naysayers. Lets be honest - his prior failures cost the team, and fans took a while to change their tune. Now facing Bayern Munich is another challenge. Bayern may be struggling in their league, but they're still a force, especially against English clubs. United needs to develop a rhythm, not just win this game. Winning against Bayern could bolster them, but stability will need more than one win. They must keep showing themselves, and Maguire is crucial.

Erik Ten Hak do have a big responsibility in training Manchester United to perform well in their second season,, but he has a big problem because a number of players have begun to show resistance and not play optimally in several matches. The opportunity not to qualify for the round of 16 can trigger fans to voice Erik Ten Hak the to get out of Old Trafford because they increasingly do not believe in the ability of the Dutch passport coach. A number of decisions taken by Erik Ten Hak are completely confusing because he always rotates players when Manchester United is superior

Manchester United have just suffered defeat in the league when facing Bournemouth and the good news is the condition of Bayern Munich is also not good when they travel to Old Trafford because it has just been slaughtered by Frankfurt in a shame, so the morals of the players of the two teams are not in good condition, but Manchester United is more benefited because Play in the cage itself.

i think still dificult can get europa league ticket
because until now still fourth rank, and last match meet bayern munhen is very dificult can win, i think last match meet bayern munchen . manchester united can lose

I don't think it's that easy to immediately fire Ten Hag if MU fails in the UCL or can't fill the UEL spot. MU has shown quite good performance last season by finishing in 3rd place in the EPL, that could be the reason the management is still retaining Ten Hag. This indicates that MU may wait until the end of the season or until his contract expires. It was too difficult for MU, spending a lot of money but not finding a coach who was effective in managing the team.

I disagree with you on this, because if there is a culture that Manchester United's management supports players who are bigger than their head coach, there is no way that Manchester United's management could have banned Jadon Sancho from training with Manchester United's first team when Jadon Sancho refused to apologize to Erik Ten Hag.

I think that ten Hag's fate is tied to the Champions League group stage. If they lose their last game and miss the round of 16 and also the Europa League, I can imagine that it would be the end for him. In my opinion that would be too late, but I think that could be the game that the management is now waiting for. Although I don't fully understand all the patience they have. I guess I would have changed something already about the coach.

We can all see Manchester United's performance and are all convinced that they are out of form and that the manager's job is in danger.  No one knows when he will be fired, but if the Manchester United team does not improve by the end of the month, I believe Eric Ten Hag will be relieved of his duties as manager of the club by the end of the season.

They should fire him now so that things don't get messy later, but doing so could result in a lot more defeats than they're already dealing with. A round of 16 qualification in either the Champions League, which is almost impossible, or the Europa League, which we hope they can reach, will not prevent them from sacking the coach if he does not improve by the end of the season.

That's why Manchester United still has a chance to qualify. It is because they still can qualify as mathematically. But we must admit that it is a bit hard, Man United needs to win and the other match should end with a draw. I guess Man United can beat Bayern Munich, especially if we consider their last performance. But hoping the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray to end with a draw, it is a very small chance.

Indeed. The match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray will be the key whether Man United to qualify or not. If there is a winner in the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, Man United will have no chance to qualify for the knock-out phase.

Last season wasn't a masterpiece either, but Manchester United was able to finish the season with a good result because many other teams didn't perform as expected. The most prominent example is Liverpool and Tottenham and that is why Manchester United was able to qualify for the Champions League. Right now I don't see them as having the potential anymore to finish the season top four. Just look at Aston Villa, which in my opinion is much stronger that Manchester United and now consider what it would take for them to stay at the top. They would have to outperform several top teams. I believe that they will finish the season in the midfield of the table.

Erik ten Hag made many mistakes in Manchester United and Sancho was one example also this coach doesn't want to accept the mistakes he had in this team and that's not good but don't forget that Erik ten Hag was the coach who joined Manchester United while they were in the trouble situation and Ten Hag was the person who helped them to get improved in the last season and take the Champions League ticket for this season otherwise Manchester United could have even worst situation.

One issue might be that Manchester United doesn't know who could fill the gap if they fire ten Hag and I think there is some truth to that as not that many great coaches are available at the moment I believe. However, I don't really like when clubs wait too long until everything turned into a mess and then hand it over to a new coach who has to start from scratch and even without the Champions League qualification in a worst case. I don't know what they are waiting for, but the loss against Bournemouth at Old Trafford was a torture for every Manchester United fan. Yet ten Hag is still around and I am sure there are lots of people wondering about that.

I think it's not easy because until now the fans are not calling for the hashtag #tenhagout and as far as I can see Manchester United management still really believes in his job as coach. Maybe there is some truth in what you said, if the dismissal of Erik Ten Hag in the middle of the season will make the existing situation worse, unless management has prepared a replacement who is much more experienced and also very credible, that's not a problem.

Erik ten Hag is nothing special and perhaps from the start the Red Devils fans had too high expectations of him and for fans of other clubs this coach was probably only in the class of a mid-table team coach. Apart from all that, this season's Champions League doesn't leave the slightest hope for Manchester United to qualify and I think everyone knows that, so changes here are probably not really needed.

That's not new for Manchester United and Harry Maguire to see the fans complaining about this player and I think even Harry Maguire already knows the Manchester United fans hate him but he still wants to stay because there's no other team they can offer him this money and even Manchester United wanted to see this player but there not any interesting offer for him.

If Bayern Munich's decision to travel with their entire squad to England does not guarantee that they will not lose to Manchester United. This is because they are playing the way they like because they are leading the group stage, and as showed by their recent loss to Frankfurt in the Germany League, which surprised me because it was not the same Bayern Munich we know, even with their players available, they still lose. Therefore, if Manchester United is lucky enough to defeat Bayern Munich, we can only describe it as a miracle of luck. I do not believe Bayern Munich will take it easy for Manchester united to win, even with a 13 points leading in the group stage, it is not possible for Bayern Munich to lose in their league, still lose in champions league.

There are many scenarios, factors and assumptions that we can review based on the Frankfurt vs Bayern Munich match. but what is certain is that Bayern Munich actually lost to Frankfurt with a landslide score. one thing is for sure, Bayern Munich is playing badly overall. Tuhcel said "we have no excuses for the result against Frankfurt", we had enough time to rest and prepare everything, but we played badly and made a lot of mistakes. said Bayern coach, Thomas Tuchel, quoted from their official website. and yeah, what Tuchel said is a fact, there were even two players who really played badly in that match, namely, Noussair Mazraoui and Manuel Neuer. These two players performed worse than the other players.

On the other hand, Manchester United is playing just as badly in its Domestic League. fell to Bournemouth with a score of 0-3, even though the match was played at Old Trafford. Both teams suffered defeat ahead of their meeting on matchday six of the Champions League group phase. So, I tried to monitor the odds provided by the bookies. This time there is a slight change, United with odds @2.60 and Bayern @2.41. however, there is no significant change from the previous odds which were the same as @2.50. I won't rush into speculation, especially since I haven't gotten much information from the two teams, especially regarding the starting eleven that will be played. So, let's just wait before this match takes place.