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Quote from: QueenVera on December 02, 2023, 04:06:58 AM

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances

Another set of teams with an undecided situation would be Newcastle who almost secured a win against PSG but got disappointed after a late minute equalizer. As well as Dortmund who's been up and doing in their performance and have made winning difficult for their counterparts. It's likely to be a smooth qualification for them and maybe a struggle for PSG, Milan and Newcastle. Next week would be the determinant.

Bayern Munich does not have greater motivation and a draw against Copenhagen is quite natural because they rotated a lot of players and also Bayern Munich had already guaranteed themselves to qualify from the group so this was an unimportant match for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich's draw against Copenhagen is not a problem because all the teams that have ensured themselves of qualifying from the group phase will no longer be determined to win the match.

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Quote from: lalabotax on December 01, 2023, 07:08:00 PM

However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

Indeed, when you play against a strong team, there is usually a high fighting spirit, especially since Man United really needs to win over Bayern Munich. But I doubt Man United's current abilities, they are not yet stable when facing strong clubs, you can see from Man United's meetings with strong teams in the domestic league and in the Champions League, Man United did not get a single win. So I can say that when they face Bayern Muchen they will also lose again, besides, it is also difficult for Man United to qualify from this group because they have to depend on the results of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match.

Man United this season cannot be relied on in the UCL league because their game and strategy are not yet completely stable and their line-up is not yet strong. Erik Tag Hag is looking for a really strong line up so it's not surprising that every match their line up always changes.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on December 01, 2023, 12:32:35 PM

These two groups will always present drama until the last minute. In Group A, Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United will face each other. Galatasaray and Copenhagen both have big opportunities and these two teams must avoid a draw. Meanwhile, Manchester United seems to have a fairly slim chance and United, although they were able to win the match against Bayern Munich, still have to really depend on the results of other teams. I have confidence that Bayern Munich and Galatasaray will represent group A to qualify for the knockout phase.

Newcastle is a team that is attracting quite a lot of attention, their performance could be said to be quite convincing because previously they were not taken into account at all. The last match was a very exciting match against Milan, but even so, their hopes also really depended on the results of PSG vs Dortmund. PSG might be a little lucky if Dortmund no longer prioritizes perfect points because they have already qualified. But what is clear is that PSG will try desperately to qualify and I am quite sure that Dortmund and PSG will represent group F.

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances.

Another set of teams with an undecided situation would be Newcastle who almost secured a win against PSG but got disappointed after a late minute equalizer. As well as Dortmund who's been up and doing in their performance and have made winning difficult for their counterparts. It's likely to be a smooth qualification for them and maybe a struggle for PSG, Milan and Newcastle. Next week would be the determinant.

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Quote from: viananda2525 on December 01, 2023, 12:32:35 PM

These two groups will always present drama until the last minute. In Group A, Galatasaray, Copenhagen and Manchester United will face each other. Galatasaray and Copenhagen both have big opportunities and these two teams must avoid a draw. Meanwhile, Manchester United seems to have a fairly slim chance and United, although they were able to win the match against Bayern Munich, still have to really depend on the results of other teams. I have confidence that Bayern Munich and Galatasaray will represent group A to qualify for the knockout phase.

Newcastle is a team that is attracting quite a lot of attention, their performance could be said to be quite convincing because previously they were not taken into account at all. The last match was a very exciting match against Milan, but even so, their hopes also really depended on the results of PSG vs Dortmund. PSG might be a little lucky if Dortmund no longer prioritizes perfect points because they have already qualified. But what is clear is that PSG will try desperately to qualify and I am quite sure that Dortmund and PSG will represent group F.

Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances

Another set of teams with an undecided situation would be Newcastle who almost secured a win against PSG but got disappointed after a late minute equalizer. As well as Dortmund who's been up and doing in their performance and have made winning difficult for their counterparts. It's likely to be a smooth qualification for them and maybe a struggle for PSG, Milan and Newcastle. Next week would be the determinant.

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Quote from: SeriouslyGiveaway on December 01, 2023, 10:42:37 PM

We should stop expecting much from Mu at this point. I believe they deserve to be eliminated and give the chance to a more deserving team. The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen seems like a real final for this group.

I agree with you, it's time to stop hoping for Man United. whatever the future scenario, what is clear is that it is very difficult, because their fate really depends on other matches, relying on the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match. Even progressing to the Europa League is very difficult, I don't know what Ten Hag is doing at United at the moment.

I am very curious to what extent the club top officials will continue to maintain their position as head coach, or whether they will return to supporting Ten Hag by giving him a large budget next january, to continue building the club according to his standards and wishes. I think sooner or later, there will be a push from fans asking for Ten Hag to be fired.

With all due respect to Ten Hag and The Red Devils, Galatasaray or Copenhagen are more worthy of accompanying Bayern to advance to the round of 16. looking further ahead, it looks like The Red Devils will most likely miss out on appearing in the UCL, unless they manage to improve their performance and finish in the top four of the EPL standings when the season ends.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 02, 2023, 02:31:54 AM

After another legendary game between Galatasaray and Manchester United the competition level in Group A has got even more heated. That one point was really important for Galatasaray before anything else. Thanks to this point Galatasaray only need to win against Copenhagen to guarantee their qualification for last 16 easier.

In case they get a draw in that game they will hope for Manchester United to lose against Bayern Munich home. If that happens as well Galatasaray must be still advancing to last 16 if I'm not wrong. However Galatasaray are playing away against Copenhagen so it will be a really tough game.

The competition in Group A seem to be getting fiercer, but I only see Galatasaray and Copenhagen who still have a chance of qualifying for the rounds of 16 and the last match will be the deciding factor between the two club. I don't see Manchester United having a chances of qualifying by just using the last match because Bayern Munich is not an easy clubs to beat and what is certain is that Bayern Munich will win the match again and Manchester United will return to the domestic league with feelings of disappointment, especially from fans, because Manchester United did not play in the Champions League and were also not relegated to the European league.

If Galatasaray gets a draw, I think Copenhagen will still have a chances of qualifying for the next round because a difference of just 1 goal is very influential in the points table. If Galatasaray wants to qualify, at least they have to fight hard to beat Copenhagen in the next match.

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But the question is, will Manchester United be able to win against Munich?

It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.

Even though Bayern Munich decided to play with their second-eleven, Manchester United will still not be able to win the match because Bayern Munich's second eleven can just be as strong as Galatasaray and Copenhagen's first eleven, which Manchester United failed to win. But if Manchester United pulls out a shock win against Bayern Munich, Manchester United will qualify for the European Cup if there is a win between Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

Currently predicting about Manchester United is surely not easy because they are having many troubles and their players are also down in confidence which is another below for them coach policies are also not working with this all now they have to win against Bayern Munich and then wait for the second match result still things are not easy even most chances they will be not able to win against Bayern Munich which could be ended for them in this season, and they have to work on for better future in Premier League as well.

Most chances we will have Copenhagen into next round because they are doing good job and having draw against Bayern Munich is surely going into their favor but still things are not easy for the three teams in this group.

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Quote from: Luzin on December 01, 2023, 09:54:54 PM

Kroos played a great role in the win against Napoli, although Bellingham and Nico Paz were the stars. I can't stop praising Bellingham, he was extraordinary. When Joselu was unlucky he was able to score a goal. Although in the end Joselu scored a goal. Apart from that, Nico Pas also performed well, scoring a hard kick from quite a distance. A great win and this ensures Madrid progress to the knockout phase.

Jude Bellingham is always the star of the show when Real Madrid play. He can do everything, make assists, especially score goals. Real Madrid are very lucky to be able to bring in a player with his ability. Not only that, he is still young and it will be a long future for Real Madrid. They should thank Borussia Dortmund for being willing to sell him, even though we know it's their habit. Lol

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 02, 2023, 02:31:54 AM

After another legendary game between Galatasaray and Manchester United the competition level in Group A has got even more heated. That one point was really important for Galatasaray before anything else. Thanks to this point Galatasaray only need to win against Copenhagen to guarantee their qualification for last 16 easier.

In case they get a draw in that game they will hope for Manchester United to lose against Bayern Munich home. If that happens as well Galatasaray must be still advancing to last 16 if I'm not wrong. However Galatasaray are playing away against Copenhagen so it will be a really tough game.

The 3 teams in group A will certainly go all out in their last match in the group stage. The results they got in the 5th match in the Champions League group stage forced them to stay in a tense competition in this last match. It is certain that all teams will be waiting for the results of their competitors' matches in the group. And actually for Copenhagen a draw is enough to take them to the last 16, provided Manchester United do not win against Bayern Munich. As for Galatarasay they must win. Manchester United are the most difficult team, because besides they have to win they also have to see Galatasaray and Copenhagen draw.

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Honestly, personally I'm not sure Manachester United will be able to win this match, but I also don't rule out the opportunity for them to win this match. If we look at their meeting record, Manchester United have difficulty winning when dealing with this club, I noted from 6 matches they have played, Manchester United can only win 1 time, draw 1 time and the rest they feel defeat. Maybe it was a little luck for them because this time Bayern Munich was more comfortable and there was no burden in this match, but still with a record of meetings like that I can't say with confidence that they will be able to win in this match,

The best result Manchester united can get is a draw from Bayern Munich. The German Giant aren't a team that shows mercy to another team, Barcelona can testify to that, in as much as Bayern Munich has qualified as the group leaders they would still want to make a statement and beating Manchester united is a big statement so the best result for Manchester united is probably a draw.

Yes, it's probably for the best, but with that result, it is certain that they will not be able to advance to the next round. If that happens they also still have a chance to go to the Europa League provided that the Galatasaray and Copenhagen matches can beat each other at least with a difference of 2 goals. However, I hope they do not despair, because after all the opportunity is still there and they must be maximized in this match. They can rely on luck too, hopefully the goddess of fortune will be on their side in this group stage.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 01, 2023, 06:35:23 PM

The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen will be the key. Man United only has a chance to qualify if the match ends up with a draw. But if it doesn't end up with a draw, Man United has no chance to finish in 2nd place.

Man United might be able to qualify if Copenhagen draws with Galatasaray, but is it possible for Man United to beat Munich, which is said to be the strongest club in the UCL, that is clearly impossible unless Munich underestimates Man United too much and plays their second tier players to help make things easier. Man United will qualify for the next round if in the end Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw.

If I were a Man United supporter, I probably wouldn't really expect them to qualify for the next round even though they managed to win against Munich, they still have a lot to change from their squad and they also need a lot of mature strategies to make Man United ready for the UCL match, to be honest Man United is not very ready for the UCL this season. I'm sure they will fail.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 02, 2023, 02:31:54 AM

After another legendary game between Galatasaray and Manchester United the competition level in Group A has got even more heated. That one point was really important for Galatasaray before anything else. Thanks to this point Galatasaray only need to win against Copenhagen to guarantee their qualification for last 16 easier.

In case they get a draw in that game they will hope for Manchester United to lose against Bayern Munich home. If that happens as well Galatasaray must be still advancing to last 16 if I'm not wrong. However Galatasaray are playing away against Copenhagen so it will be a really tough game.

Galatasaray will find it difficult to beat Copenhagen when they visit them in Denmark because Copenhagen has proven to be one of the tough clubs in Group A, of the Uefa Champions League and they have beaten Manchester United there. Either Copenhagen or Galatasaray will be the one to qualify for the next round in the Uefa Champions League because their match will not be a draw match.

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After another legendary game between Galatasaray and Manchester United the competition level in Group A has got even more heated. That one point was really important for Galatasaray before anything else. Thanks to this point Galatasaray only need to win against Copenhagen to guarantee their qualification for last 16 easier.

In case they get a draw in that game they will hope for Manchester United to lose against Bayern Munich home. If that happens as well Galatasaray must be still advancing to last 16 if I'm not wrong. However Galatasaray are playing away against Copenhagen so it will be a really tough game.

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Quote from: Luzin on December 01, 2023, 09:54:54 PM

Kroos played a great role in the win against Napoli, although Bellingham and Nico Paz were the stars. I can't stop praising Bellingham, he was extraordinary. When Joselu was unlucky he was able to score a goal. Although in the end Joselu scored a goal. Apart from that, Nico Pas also performed well, scoring a hard kick from quite a distance. A great win and this ensures Madrid progress to the knockout phase.

this is proof that Real Madrid currently has players who are quite perfect and there is no shortage of players who play an important role in achieving their goal of getting the UCL title and talking about important role players I think almost all Madrid players play an important role for Ancelotti such as Rodrygo and also Joselu who currently this can help Bellingham to score in every match in this UCL and also other defenders who can be relied on to continue Real Madrid journey to the next round.

so I am not too worried, even though there are lots of rumors that Madrid will bring in a striker player, whoever it is, what is certain is that without a striker, Real Madrid is still performing very well and looks very consistent to be able to regain the UCL title and in the next match it will be a fairly easy match for Madrid to win determined that this team really deserved to qualify for the next round after beating Union Berlin.

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Quote from: hyudien on December 01, 2023, 05:11:38 AM

An off-field scheme could be between Galatasaray and Copenhagen who are trying to keep Man United out of the Champions League. This of course does not rule out the possibility considering that Man United facing Bayern Munich is a serious obstacle. Playing at Old Trafford is not a big problem for the Bayern Munich team because the Red Devils are no longer scary to face.

Clearly, in the matches against Copenhagen and Galatasaray, Mu had full control and consistently took the lead, but they squandered victories due to individual mistakes and Ten Hag's disastrous tactical imprint. In terms of individual talent, Mu was far superior, but they let the wins slip away against the two weakest teams in the group. They only have themselves to blame. I believe that Munich will easily overpower Mu in the upcoming match.

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Galatasaray and Copenhagen both want to win because they both have the same chance of qualifying from the group phase, while Manchester United must win against Bayern and have to wait for the results of the matches from Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
So I think everything is possible here and Manchester United still has a chance to qualify even though the percentage is quite small.

We should stop expecting much from Mu at this point. I believe they deserve to be eliminated and give the chance to a more deserving team. The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen seems like a real final for this group.

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Kroos played a great role in the win against Napoli, although Bellingham and Nico Paz were the stars. I can't stop praising Bellingham, he was extraordinary. When Joselu was unlucky he was able to score a goal. Although in the end Joselu scored a goal. Apart from that, Nico Pas also performed well, scoring a hard kick from quite a distance. A great win and this ensures Madrid progress to the knockout phase.

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But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.

However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

The only miracle that can help manchester united at this moment is if galatasaray will get draw against copenhagen but it's unlikely to happen caused by galatasaray and copenhagen will be trying to use everything to win the game.
I don't even see a chance owned by united but miracle can give it to the united. Ten hag shall hope and pray that their competitors will get draw and so the chance for united to qualify for the upcoming stage is still there.

People are waiting for the last match day to begin. Im thinking about the result from UCL is going to be the end for ten hag. I hope that united owner will consider to replace him with a better coach.
Ten hag has made no progress in united. A few years have passed and ten hag gave no change to the united.
This problem shall be addressed by the club owner of manchester united will always be in the bad performance. I can't even accept ten hag to manage united till next season.

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Quote from: Sakanwa on December 01, 2023, 08:05:17 PM

I don't think Manchester United have any chance of qualifying from this group anymore because their next game is Bayern Munich,and there is no way United can win Munich,if they cannot get a win against Galatasary or Copenhagen,then their hope is already lost.Buf I still don't know the reason Manchester United couldn't qualify from that group because to me,the group was one of the easiest groups in the competition,but because they aren't consistent enough,they have sold out the only chance they had to qualify from the group,and a win against Galatasary was the only chance they had,and it was going to be very good for them because Bayern and Copenhagen drew,that is to say they didn't move further more on the table.

Erik Ten Hag should discipline his players for all these poor performance in the UEFA Champions League this season. Manchester united is not any other random team that qualify with luck rather they deserved a spot in UCL and they got it, but they can't impress anyone with these performance. I think we're misunderstanding something here when it comes to Manchester United, they have all the chances in the world to qualify for the next UCL phase but they messed up their chances, losing to Bayern Munich 4-3 in the first leg, lost to Galatasary 3-2 in the first leg, won Copenhagen 1-0 and losing to Copenhagen 4-3 again in the second leg, draw ties 3-3 with Galatasary and now they will be hosting Bayern Munich in Old Trafford probably by next week.

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We keep our fingers crossed as we await the resumption of the next round of the competition after the final matches of the group stage.

Yeah, four more teams are going to qualify in the final round of games and it is going to be interesting to find out which teams it's going to be, Group A and Group F is where the most drama is. Copenhagen, Galatasaray and United all have a chance to qualify, though it is no longer in United's hands, they have to win their own game against Bayern Munich and hope for a draw in the other game, it'd be a miracle for things to pan out in that way.

Group F is tough as well, Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan all have a chance to qualify too, but it is no longer in Newcastle's hands, they have to beat AC Milan in their own game and hope that Dortmund do them a favor by holding down PSG to at least a draw. The final game would be so important for these teams and interesting from a neutral point of view.

There have been some teams that I expected to qualify for the next stage of the Champions League competition. But it is what it is. I would still say that the teams that have been able to qualify for the next stage deserved it. They had fought hard for it after all.

But I have something to say about the Newcastle vs PSG match. Do you guys actually think that the penalty should have been given to PSG? I really think that the penalty shouldn't have been given. The player was not even looking at the ball. And he was running, the ball hit his hand when he was in a Natural running position. But I think it was given just because of two reasons. First of all, it was blunt. And secondly, they know that PSG is going to bring them more viewers from the Champions League compared to Newcastle.

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But that wouldn't create a surprise-the-world-effect at all when Manchester United wins that game. They are a mediocre Premier League team and Bayern Munich is qualified for the next round already. Would it be that surprising when Manchester United wins the game? If they manage to qualify for the next round, that would be a surprise because they would also need Copenhagen and Galatasaray to tie their game. But from what they have shown so far in the Champions League and in the Premier League, I think barely anyone hopes that they make it.

However, sometimes when playing against strong teams, Man United exceeds expectations, sometimes they can match or win. But who knows, in this UCL, especially if the opponent is Bayern. I personally still believe that Bayern will win. However, that doesn't mean underestimating Man United. Oh yes, apart from that, Man United's chance of qualifying for the next group is very small. One of the conditions is if Man United wins against Bayern, and on the other hand if Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. so Man United has that chance.

If we focus on this season, which were those strong teams that Manchester United exceed expectations against? They lost against Tottenham, Arsenal, Brighton, Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Newcastle, then also against Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. I am sorry but I can't see where they exceeded expectations this season. This is why I hope that they now get kicked out and this drama surrounding them comes to an end. It isn't exactly a pleasure to watch them play in the top games. Those times are over and they need to adjust a lot of things or come up with some significant changes.

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It depends if Bayern decide to rest some of their stars as they are already group winners. Maybe they might want to give some players a rest. If that happens and Man Utd play the perfect game they could win.

It is very possible that Bayern Munich coach (Tuchel) sends some of their key players to the bench. Basically, the last match won't impact anything to their status, Bayern Munich will be the winner of group A whatever the result of the last match. I'm sure Tuchel will prefer to put substituted players for the lineup against Man United. However, it won't be an easy match although Bayern Munich will play with their substituted players.

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Unfortunately for Man Utd it might not be enough, even if they were to win. If the other game has a winner then Man Utd are out. If Man Utd lose to Bayern they won’t even drop into the Europa League.

The match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen will be the key. Man United only has a chance to qualify if the match ends up with a draw. But if it doesn't end up with a draw, Man United has no chance to finish in 2nd place.

I don't think Manchester United have any chance of qualifying from this group anymore because their next game is Bayern Munich,and there is no way United can win Munich,if they cannot get a win against Galatasary or Copenhagen,then their hope is already lost.Buf I still don't know the reason Manchester United couldn't qualify from that group because to me,the group was one of the easiest groups in the competition,but because they aren't consistent enough,they have sold out the only chance they had to qualify from the group,and a win against Galatasary was the only chance they had,and it was going to be very good for them because Bayern and Copenhagen drew,that is to say they didn't move further more on the table.

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